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Just curious as to what other folks are getting for actual screen on battery time, as in, what do you think you would get in constant screen on usage?
I don't suffer from really bad battery drain, I think I could get a couple of days of light use from it.... but it does fair chomp the battery in use.
I reckon I could completely drain the battery in 3 - 4 hours of constant use of say web browsing, the odd game, texting etc, and am just wondering how that measures up with others; with talk of this device having iphone 4 levels of battery life, my last daily driver was said iphone, and that device managed about 50% longer screen on time, so it doesn't quite match that, but some are saying theirs is better?
I don't have the brightness cranked or anything, and I'm not exactly unhappy, but it probably matches my Incredible S for battery life, and both phones are perhaps slightly better than the Nexus One or Desire, which I didn't think were amazing in that department...
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Just curious as to what other folks are getting for actual screen on battery time, as in, what do you think you would get in constant screen on usage?
I don't suffer from really bad battery drain, I think I could get a couple of days of light use from it.... but it does fair chomp the battery in use.
I reckon I could completely drain the battery in 3 - 4 hours of constant use of say web browsing, the odd game, texting etc, and am just wondering how that measures up with others; with talk of this device having iphone 4 levels of battery life, my last daily driver was said iphone, and that device managed about 50% longer screen on time, so it doesn't quite match that, but some are saying theirs is better?
I don't have the brightness cranked or anything, and I'm not exactly unhappy, but it probably matches my Incredible S for battery life, and both phones are perhaps slightly better than the Nexus One or Desire, which I didn't think were amazing in that department...
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Speaking of battery life while browsing,
http://blog.gsmarena.com/showdown-s...ng-battery-life-championship-not-so-brightly/
Keep in mind the screen is a great deal larger than the iphone 4.
3h of intranet browsing is max for me
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maybe an hour of max, 3 of lowest
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I also got about 3-4 hours with brightness set to 20%. I originally wonder if it's my problem only, as most of you say the battery can easily last for more than 1 day.
In my case, most of the battery is used by the display, given I used each about 1.5 hour before and after work during travel (with display turned on). So 3 hours of display on + some phone call and sms, that will drain the whole battery for me within one day. I think I need to buy a 2nd battery when it is available in Hong Kong.
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I also got about 3-4 hours with brightness set to 20%. I originally wonder if it's my problem only, as most of you say the battery can easily last for more than 1 day.
In my case, most of the battery is used by the display, given I used each about 1.5 hour before and after work during travel (with display turned on). So 3 hours of display on + some phone call and sms, that will drain the whole battery for me within one day. I think I need to buy a 2nd battery when it is available in Hong Kong.
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Yeah same here. Display takes almost 50%. I have automatic brightness set on. I could of course set it to minimum brightness and it would decrese the battery consumption but I think it is ridiculous that I first buy a phone which is praised for its bright display and then I turn it to the darkest. Completely stupid. I tried that quickly and even my old Desire looked better then.
But then I read results like this:
http://blog.gsmarena.com/samsung-i9...minutes-of-video-playback-on-a-single-charge/
And I just keep wondering that wtf is wrong with my phone.
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But then I read results like this:
http://blog.gsmarena.com/samsung-i9...minutes-of-video-playback-on-a-single-charge/
And I just keep wondering that wtf is wrong with my phone.
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Exactly. I want my phone can have this battery life too.
Same juice hungry Screen here. :-( I never use automatic brightness either. It's set to a really low brightness, byt it's still chewing away on the battery like there's no tomorrow.
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To shorthand it for everyone, the SGS2 came in fourth out of four when using web scripts until the battery dies utilizing the stock browser. Results are:
Web browsing battery life test:
Apple iPhone 4 – 7:40 h
Sony Ericsson Xperia Arc – 5:25 h
Samsung I9100 Galaxy S II – 4:59 h (Opera Mobile browser)
LG Optimus Black – 4:30 h
Samsung I9100 Galaxy S II – 4:22 h (stock browser)
Samsung I9000 Galaxy S – 4:06 h
So since the SGS sucked more, I guess it's the Amoled screen doing them in. They should have used black web pages and the SGS2 would have won.
Actually, if you think about it, the SGS2 is pushing more pixels and has a dual-core processor with hardware acceleration to feed. So at least beating the SGS shows some progress.
Thanks for the comments guys. Good to know it's not just me. It'd be nice to get the same as the arc... So maybe there is room for improvement, but all those who say it can match the iphone are living in dreamland! Saying that, I'll still take the bigger screen, ta! However, certainly reviews like techradars are a little misleading imo.
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...but all those who say it can match the iphone are living in dreamland!
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It'll be interesting to see how the iPhone 5 performs with a bigger screen and dual core processors. At least we don't have to send our phones back to the mother ship to get the batteries replaced when they discharge for $150. Come to think of it, with a pocket full of extra batteries, we'd be able to go 24/7 with a couple of pit stops.
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Come to think of it, with a pocket full of extra batteries, we'd be able to go 24/7 with a couple of pit stops.
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Luckily, the battery is so light that possibly having 1-2 extra batteries won't feel any weight inside the bag. If Samsung can release a "battery" direct charger (instead of charging through the phone itself), it will probably make my life easier.
Anyway, though the battery life is not as good as I originally expect, I still consider this phone as my best phone, EVER.
BarryH_GEG said:
To shorthand it for everyone, the SGS2 came in fourth out of four when using web scripts until the battery dies utilizing the stock browser. Results are:
Web browsing battery life test:
Apple iPhone 4 – 7:40 h
Sony Ericsson Xperia Arc – 5:25 h
Samsung I9100 Galaxy S II – 4:59 h (Opera Mobile browser)
LG Optimus Black – 4:30 h
Samsung I9100 Galaxy S II – 4:22 h (stock browser)
Samsung I9000 Galaxy S – 4:06 h
So since the SGS sucked more, I guess it's the Amoled screen doing them in. They should have used black web pages and the SGS2 would have won.
Actually, if you think about it, the SGS2 is pushing more pixels and has a dual-core processor with hardware acceleration to feed. So at least beating the SGS shows some progress.
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not really, the SGS2 has less pixels than the iphone 4 in that test, for example. and the iphone 4 also is hardware accelerated for browser and all UI elements, so its kinda a close match. smaller screen, but more pixels, but SGS2 has larger battery and AMOLED, so really its matched up.
Galaxy S2 Battery RESPONSE
Hey Guys,
I sold my iphone 4 to purchase the galaxy s2, never owned an Android phone before, I posted a post on the forum about rooting methods for the S2. Before I purchased the phone i did research on batter life and I read most users could do a full day or close to 2 days without charged. They said it had a better battery than the iphone 4 this was the decisive factor which lead me to buy the phone. To come to this post and read that the pone battery last only 4 hours for browsing this is childs play. I feel somewhat cheated and deceived.
Has anyone in the forum here achieved the 24 hour battery best while using the phone in full capacity ? How is this acceptable to you guys, 4 hours ? This is unacceptable.
Thanks
RedCell X
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Hey Guys,
I sold my iphone 4 to purchase the galaxy s2, never owned an Android phone before, I posted a post on the forum about rooting methods for the S2. Before I purchased the phone i did research on batter life and I read most users could do a full day or close to 2 days without charged. They said it had a better battery than the iphone 4 this was the decisive factor which lead me to buy the phone. To come to this post and read that the pone battery last only 4 hours for browsing this is childs play. I feel somewhat cheated and deceived.
Has anyone in the forum here achieved the 24 hour battery best while using the phone in full capacity ? How is this acceptable to you guys, 4 hours ? This is unacceptable.
Thanks
RedCell X
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Yes, I too read of the great battery life of this phone - but not on here - but on reviews from the likes of techradar etc. Very deceiving. That said, I can get through a typical day quite easily on a charge, but it's never going to take on the iphone on battery life no matter what they say.
That said, I think (hope) the situation will improve with more mature firmware.
It is a shame, but for me, its not a dealbreaker, especially as I am always near a power source.
Hello,
Yes I was deceived !!! I feel robbed and cheated. I simply don't know what to say.
RedCell X
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Yes, I too read of the great battery life of this phone - but not on here - but on reviews from the likes of techradar etc. Very deceiving. That said, I can get through a typical day quite easily on a charge, but it's never going to take on the iphone on battery life no matter what they say.
That said, I think (hope) the situation will improve with more mature firmware.
It is a shame, but for me, its not a dealbreaker, especially as I am always near a power source.
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most iPhones do not truly multitask, so they do not waste power. it is also a walled garden, with fewer freedoms, and fewer possibilities to mess up admittedly highly tuned and optimized power management scheme. Remember it is one OS on one piece of hardware, with every component tested and tuned to near-perfection.
and yes, if you set your SGS2 browser at 100% brightness, auto-enable Flash (that will waste power on all those moving ads etc that you are not even looking at), turn on music in the background streaming it to your Bluetooth headphones, enable Gmail sync, Exchange sync, Facebook, GVoice, GTalk, Yahoo Mail, Yahoo Chat, AIM, Twitter, etc, and browse (read mostly black text on mostly white backgrounds) for 2-4 hours, your battery will drain.
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Hello,
Yes I was deceived !!! I feel robbed and cheated. I simply don't know what to say.
RedCell X
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You do not really have to say anything - just return it. Vote with your dollar (or pound, or rupee)
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You do not really have to say anything - just return it. Vote with your dollar (or pound, or rupee)
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This is to KREOXDA,
Hello,
Can you or have you used the sgs2 for 24 hours or more of heavy useage? Can you provide testimony for those who feel limited to the 4 hours of browsing others experience. In respect to your prior post, using your sgs2 surfing with flash OFF, twitter OFF, exchange sync, OFF,Google Voice OFF, BlueTooth OFF, Can you get a full 24 hours usage out of the phone ?
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Yeah same here. Display takes almost 50%. I have automatic brightness set on. I could of course set it to minimum brightness and it would decrese the battery consumption but I think it is ridiculous that I first buy a phone which is praised for its bright display and then I turn it to the darkest. Completely stupid. I tried that quickly and even my old Desire looked better then.
But then I read results like this:
http://blog.gsmarena.com/samsung-i9...minutes-of-video-playback-on-a-single-charge/
And I just keep wondering that wtf is wrong with my phone.
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I think the difference may be in scrolling. It doesn't sound like the test included scrolling of web pages - just loading. And I suspect that the super smooth scrolling you get on the SII gives those dual cores a good workout.
Hi everyone,
Does anyone have any review about this battery on LG Optimus 7? The 1700 mAh is also welcome.
My original battery is poor compared to my wife's Samsung Galaxy S with almost similar operation (WiFi, HSDPA/3G, email sync. etc.)
I have a good experience wit Mugen battery from past with Sony Ericsson Xperia X1.
Hayenadeblue
While I was looking for a bigger battery
http://www.mugen-power-batteries.co...-for-lg-optimus-7-e900-with-battery-door.html
that looks a little too big for me. If I was getting the titan, I might consider it, but one of the things I like about this phone is the size.
I was thinking about just getting a second battery to carry with me as nessasary.
Thanks Etaduck for your comment,
I don't mind the size. But I need to hear something about performance. Quite jealous with my wife with her Galaxy S that can stand for about 2 days.
BTW, in my E900, I've already disabled the location service, bluetooth, feedback, internet sharing, set the screen brightness to the lowest, and enabled the battery saver. I was initially on open carrier firmware with the similar battery issue, then change it to vodafone firmware because of internet sharing and 7740 update.
Kind regards,
hayenadeblue
hayenadeblue said:
Thanks Etaduck for your comment,
I don't mind the size. But I need to hear something about performance. Quite jealous with my wife with her Galaxy S that can stand for about 2 days.
BTW, in my E900, I've already disabled the location service, bluetooth, feedback, internet sharing, set the screen brightness to the lowest, and enabled the battery saver. I was initially on open carrier firmware with the similar battery issue, then change it to vodafone firmware because of internet sharing and 7740 update.
Kind regards,
hayenadeblue
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just wondering, how long do you get out of it now?
with light usage for me I get around 2 days, sometimes more but rarely, but if i'm using it a lot on the internet seem to get a day to a day and a half, what surprised me after reading on this forum was to completly run down battery, then plug phone in but don't turn it on, start phone, after 4 seconds put the charger on, seemed to help with me, no idea why however
before I did that it would last around half a day, maybe its my imagination, but it seemed to help.
I'm also considering getting the smaller mugen battery when I have some spare money, the huuuge one just seems to disfigure the phone too much.
After coming from a Diamond, I really loved HTC's extended battery cover, shame theres nothing like it for this handset.
Hi Stead,
I've got about 16 hours so far. Around 5 am to around 9 pm at night. I've tried your method but there are no improvement at all.
I hope that the option to togle between 3g/HSDPA and EDGE/GPRS in 8107 update will solve this battery issue for me at least.
Update: With 8107 update, limited data to edge, still with standard battery, I could get 1 day 14 hours roughly 2 daytime and 1 night. Exchange, gmail, live, nextgen reader, accuweather running in background. Hook to wifi at home and office bcoz talkmobile edge is the worst here.
I wanted to buy it but after mango update in november battery lasts longer.... i use it for my job, wich is talk, send message, mms, gmail and hotmail acc, and i got 3.5-4 days with around 3 h talking during those days, about 50 msg-s..
I do not use 3g if i am not using internet, which is rarely, screen is automatic, feedback off,location on,bluetooth off, wireless off,gmail is set to 1 hour.I dont overcharge battery, and never charge over usb....never less then 3.5 days.If i use 3g its 2 days top..
I ordered the 1700 battery, its not a huge increase, but it easily lasts a day with heavy usage now, tend to get around 2 days with moderate usage?
Haven't tried turning 3g off yet, so may give that ago after reading djuricn's post!
I've also noticed giving it little charges a lot seems to make the phone only last a day at best, I try to leave it run down, and fully charge it whenever possible.
One final thing, using zune with a usb3 port seems to charge just as fast as the wall charger around an hour for me, and on the pc using zune with a normal usb2 port seems to charge quicker aroud 2 hours, if zune is closed it seemingly takes a full day to charge via usb
Is the extra cost for Mugen Power battery worth it? If you look on Amazon you see batteries for way less....
ambivalent said:
Is the extra cost for Mugen Power battery worth it? If you look on Amazon you see batteries for way less....
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my personal experiance is that the mugen ones are of better quality, although I think its hit and miss with the cheaper ones, I've bought cheaper replacement batteries and I always find they become unusable within a year and charge times rapidily decline, some of my friends have been unlucky enough to have a bettery last a mere 2 months before failing completly.
Think of batteries you buy, you buy the branded ones for more and they tend to last, you buy the cheapest ones and they never do, same with these batteries imo
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my personal experiance is that the mugen ones are of better quality, although I think its hit and miss with the cheaper ones, I've bought cheaper replacement batteries and I always find they become unusable within a year and charge times rapidily decline, some of my friends have been unlucky enough to have a bettery last a mere 2 months before failing completly.
Think of batteries you buy, you buy the branded ones for more and they tend to last, you buy the cheapest ones and they never do, same with these batteries imo
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Totally agree with you, it is better to get branded batteries from official sources with extra warranty and customer support care, etc; definitely worth the extra cost on Mugen. And performance is worth it too.
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for LG Optimus 7 they also have smaller battery that doesnt require extra sized backdoor. It is 1700mAh and it is still much more powerful than the factory battery:
http://www.mugen-power-batteries.co...h-extended-battery-for-lg-optimus-7-e900.html
Do not forget Mugen Facebook discount for that
This battery is cool!
Managed to get 4 days out of my phone with light use, just sms and phone calls
Its not how i normally use my phone, but if i'm going to be out for a few days without access to a charger I now do this.
turn off data connection, change connection speed for 3g to edge, i'm honestly surprised the difference this made, I just turned on data connection for the few minutes i check stuff on the internet and turn it back off.
Like i said, I normally don't do this, but if I know I won't be able to charge it for a few days this is for me until I give in and buy the bulky extended battery
I had ordered a Battery-Pack from the Mugen-Shop (link in the first article), but it was never delivered (over 2 months of waiting). The trader dosen't care, says i have to prove i never had recieved the parcel and PayPal says, it's to late to return my money.
So, take care! Maybe the batteries are top, the customer-service is flop. They were shiped from China, so the custom control on the border is the next problem.
A friend of mine has received a brand new Lumia a few days back as a gift. This guy happens to be an iOS/Android developer, and he doesn't give a damn about WP7, so he asked me if i wanted to swap my 5 months old GS2 for his Lumia, because he thinks it has no use to him. Sure, i know that this one is a big deal for sure, and that even if i don't like the phone i'll have no problem selling it making some good cash. Anyway what i'm asking you here is how does it feel moving from a top Android to a top WP7 device? Did anyone do that? What's your experience about it?
I already have an Omnia 7 so i know that WP7 is a good OS, but i was wondering basically how good this phone is as a daily driver compared to my GS2.
What will you be using the phone for? Games? Mere surfing and checking Facebook? Work? First thing I noticed when going from Galaxy S (not the 2nd) was that WP7 was way more stable and more importantly, the battery is just a beast, 24h with no charging and still having another 12h on it, despite watching movies for 3h on it.
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What will you be using the phone for? Games? Mere surfing and checking Facebook? Work? First thing I noticed when going from Galaxy S (not the 2nd) was that WP7 was way more stable and more importantly, the battery is just a beast, 24h with no charging and still having another 12h on it, despite watching movies for 3h on it.
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Well i'm not really a heavy gamer, but i play some game from time to time. My usage is pretty average i guess: browsing every now and then, gmail and twitter syncing, whatsapp, youtube, a movie sometimes but that's rare. Sound quality doesn't really matter because i already have a Cowon, can't beat that anyway Basically i want a reliable and solid phone that won't die at about 3 p.m. every day with my kind of usage.
My network did not have the Nokia Lumia in stock when it came to the end of my contract a few days back, the next best this was the SGS2, I sold S2 online and with the cash bought an unlocked Lumia.
Its a really, really nice phone and is very fast, there are a few bugs (firmware related) and we have been promised by Nokia for an update in the coming weeks. If I were you I would go for it, I did, and havent looked back
I cant say about the SGS bit i switched to the Lumia from iPhone 4 and im not regretting. This Os is better than iOS.
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I did this switch my self, SGS2 to Lumia 800, and to be honest, best phone switch I've done. The phone just works and I think, despite the tiny bugs in the firmware it's still among the best phones on the market.
There's plenty of games for WP7 and the native apps other than that work pretty well.
Tho I do miss Opera Mobile/Mini on it.
There should be a thread somewhere (yikes) here that explains weak point and strong points against iOS and Android. For the phone itself it's beautifully made, feels like a real piece of hardware in your hand. It weighs a bit more then expected but hardly an issue unless you have real trouble carrying stuff
The audio quality for me at least is great but I know some people had trouble with it.
The battery life is magnificent, haven't done any real tests but it easily lasts 24h despite heavy usage.
Camera is good but I expected better for going full-out with "Carl Zeiss Optics.."; but it might just be me not having a clue how to point-and-click the damn thing.
I love this lil bugger but Ice Cream Sandwich looks pretty damn sexy as well. I think you won't be disappointed by either phone.
Ok, i think i made up my mind in the end: tomorrow i'll meet my friend and grab the Lumia
I'll report back my first impressions, thanks everybody.
If your not bothered about rooting or the customisation of android then go ahead , wp7 is a much improved version of iOS, just as fast and sleek but with menus and a better looking UI. I have a lumia given to me as a work phone. Not my cup of tea personally , wouldn't dare swap my gnexus for it but has good features as well. Build quality is top notch , decent camera (Carl Zeiss lens) , very nice screen. Down sides , poor customisation apps are slow to use , not the best app choice , no developer support and its a new os. Also because it has the funding of windows and this is one of the most important areas to the company then you know its not going to go web os way , you are going to have a phone with updates and a lot of services. (Nokia maps/music/zune )
My advice is if your looking for a iPhone because you like the way it works (simplicity etc) then the lumia all the way as it works in a similar fashion. If you appreciate the way android works (rooting roms customisation and the actual os) then keep your s2 as it is still easily one of the best phones on the market.
I'd stick with the s2 but if you got a lumia I would doubt you would be dissapointed.
Hope the upsides and downsides I have listed my help you a little
J
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Good choice. My colleague here has the SGSII and gets around 16 hours battery life and has problems with apps crashing and the os lagging/random reboots. No such problems with the Lumia and I get 24 hours with heavy or 36 hours with light use.
I bought a Lumia 800 few days ago but still can't get to 24hrs.. I tried the diagnostics tool and get a 1505 mAh full charge, so I have no battery problems, but still after a few hours of heavy usage the battery dies(90% of times wi-fi is off!!!), tips?
Define heavy usage and define "few hours". I watched movies for 2-3h yesterday and then went to sleep, woke up and fiddled with the camera and checked Facebook regularly until now, 45% battery life remaining. Estimated time remaining: 14 hours. Time since last charge: 13 hours
I have never seen "remaining time 13hrs" ;-) this say's it all!
Now I have 27% with 3hours left.. I never use wifi and i deactivated (i think everywhere) GPS localisation for pictures and stuff like that..
for Heavy usage I mean mail check every 15/30 mins, 5/6 web pages opened per hour and half an hour of games every 8/9 hours with medium brightness... I don't even think that this is "heavy".. with my Nexus S (SLCD) i can get to 40/50hours with no problems and with the SAmoled one I can complete with no problem 1 day (18 to 24hours).. Is there any option that I have to set to get my battery to last enough to go to sleep with still 10/15% left? thanks
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I bought a Lumia 800 few days ago but still can't get to 24hrs.. I tried the diagnostics tool and get a 1505 mAh full charge, so I have no battery problems, but still after a few hours of heavy usage the battery dies(90% of times wi-fi is off!!!), tips?
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Same, my L800 is about a week old now. Battery life so far is not very good and nowhere near the advertised or GSMarena's 35/40 hours.
Right now: 88%, 12 hours remaining, 3 hours since last charge. Rather high battery drain considering low/moderate use. 1529 mAh full charge capacity.
No crazy apps that are always on using data connection except WhatsApp. I don't use twitter, I don't religiously check FB and RSS feeds are on manual refresh since I am in front of PC most of the day. Some calls, whatsapp and a few emails during the day.
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Same, my L800 is about a week old now. Battery life so far is not very good and nowhere near the advertised or GSMarena's 35/40 hours.
Right now: 88%, 12 hours remaining, 3 hours since last charge. Rather high battery drain considering low/moderate use. 1529 mAh full charge capacity.
No crazy apps that are always on using data connection except WhatsApp. I don't use twitter, I don't religiously check FB and RSS feeds are on manual refresh since I am in front of PC most of the day. Some calls, whatsapp and a few emails during the day.
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At the moment I got 94% remaining and "Estimated time remaining: 1 day 6 hours".
Sounds like you have a battery bug of some sort.
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At the moment I got 94% remaining and "Estimated time remaining: 1 day 6 hours".
Sounds like you have a battery bug of some sort.
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I certainly hope it is a bug and the upcoming update fixes the battery issues for all. There appears to be a massive disparity in L800s battery life reports. Some people have the confirmed but where battery doesn't fully charge.
What is your drain rate in Diagnostics? Idle with screen on is between 120-135 mA with occasional spikes into 200+ mA. What is your usage pattern, more or less?
Doing around 185-200 mA idle screen on. Phone syncs to gmail/facebook/calendar, I check it about once a hour, at night I watch movies for like 2-4h and during the day I try out my apps that I developed or other ppl's ones.
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Doing around 185-200 mA idle screen on. Phone syncs to gmail/facebook/calendar, I check it about once a hour, at night I watch movies for like 2-4h and during the day I try out my apps that I developed or other ppl's ones.
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Yes, must be some kind of battery bug.
Doing some math (1529 mAh battery as reported by my L800) and battery durations as provided by Nokia and GSM Arena test.
http://blog.gsmarena.com/nokia-lumia-800-battery-test-now-over-see-how-it-did-test/
Hours Drain (mA)
3G standby 265 5,77
GSM standby 335 4,56
Average 300 5,10
2G talk 13 117,62
3G talk 9,5 160,95
3G talk (GSM Arena) 8,42 181,59
Average 10,31 148,35
Music 55 27,8
Video 6,5 235,23
Video (GSM Arena) 5,87 260,48
Web Browsing (GSM Arena) 4,12 371,12
The phone should last an average person 18 hours assuming a typical 8 am - 2 am day ...
45 mins talk (110 mAh drained), 2-4 hours web/SNS (800-1200 mAh drained) and say some music for 2 hours at the gym (50-60 mAh drained) ... that still leaves 10+ hours of idle drain of around 5 mA according to Nokia.
@SvanteH: You phone's battery life is simply exceptional but do you actually get 24+ hours of usage out of it or are you down to below 10% at the end of the day?
I usually charge it every alternate night + some hour usb charging during the day
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I usually charge it every alternate night + some hour usb charging during the day
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I'm jealous of your L800's battery life, trumps mine by a large margin.
[UPDATE] Unplugged at 100% charge and it said 14 hours remaining. Sigh.
Hello, i'm looking to buy a new phone and the nokia lumia has caught my attention.
I've been reading about it and understand that we'll be seeing 2 major updates this year.
Will the lumia 800 support the new windows mobile 8 platform?
I expect it to support Tango, but what about Apollo?
Or should i just wait for next generation nokia?
No one knows the answer to that question yet. But if any current wp7 device is going to get that update, the Lumia 800 is probably it. It is almost a wp7 equivalent of a nexus device.
But if you don't want this phone as it is now, don't buy it ;-)
I'm just waiting for nokia to start pushing out the current firmware update to my Cyan... Still only got the 7740 firmware with 8107.79 OS.
What are your experiences with the phone?
Do the phones that sell here in Denmark also have issues with batterylife, random reboots etc.?
I'm experiencing pretty bad battery time now. Yesterday I had to charge it twice to get through a full day. That is unacceptable! My old X10 holds battery for a day and half easily doing the same tasks.
I hope Nokia is very very aware of these issues and is working their asses off to get it solved.
I bought mine in Germany back in November. Kept it on 2G here in Denmark until the update that fixed the battery issues (last update).
After that update I have kept it on 3G and gotten about one and a half or two days of battery life from it.
I don't know about the status of the battery fix in Denmark. They may very well be on the phones in store (go check ). I found the demo fw for Denmark on the fw site Nokia has.
BUT if you want the phone look outside Denmark.. They are horribly overpriced here.. Some places twice the price of the same phone in Germany or England.
Regarding update to Apollo.. I see no technical reason for lumia 800 not to receive the update.
Hahah slap af en dansker tråd
Translation: "For danes only"
Roughly the same story as jlor except I bought mine in Denmark. Like arkedk, I had very poor battery life on my first phone so I returned it. The new one has up to around one and a half day of battery life with normal use. Roughly the same as with the old iPhone 3GS. I think there is a very high error rate on this battery type.
And yeah, it must be pretty popular here in Denmark
Although I'm not so sure that I should have bought this phone.
Microsoft have confirmed that all current wp7 handsets will get apollo in a response to Eldar (aka the spaz idiot who sould be shot). Tango int going to be that big really just about adding more languages and cheaper hansets to get a wider market. Apollo on the other hand looks to be even bigger than mango
Thanks for them answers.
Definatly gonna get me a winphone one day. But i'll wait a bit longer until either a new version of Lumia 800 comes out or nokia/ms whichever it is releases a firmware that fixes all these issues. Battery and camera in particular.
I'll stick to my damaged htc hero for now
Gnarfsan said:
Although I'm not so sure that I should have bought this phone.
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Ok, I'm going to elaborate this a bit.
Why I am disappointed:
This phone is supposed to be Microsofts and Nokias big gamble to reclaim the mobile phone market. Nokia economic situation isn't very good to say the least but they are still the largest manufacturer of mobile phones world wide. However Apple is close behind and so is HTC and Samsung and they are gaining market shares.
So I had expected this phone to be Microsofts version of a nexus phone. A showcase phone if you like to benchmark other Windows phones against. In my oppionion they failed to do this by rushing it to the market. There are just too many flaws for me to be completely happy with it.
I read a lot of good reviews of WP7 devices regarding their battery life. It is supposed to lightweight and without the pletora of third party battery draining services running in the background. And it is. Many WP7 devices get great battery life. But this phone does not have good battery life. Hands down, you are not going anywhere over night with this phone without a charger. Even if you dont use it at all, you will still be cutting it very close. Even with my SGS 2 running overclocked at 1600 MHz I could easily go up to 3 days if I was mindful of battery my usage.
The camera is usable. It's not great but good enough if the motive is more important than the quality of the picture. But it's not going to wow anyone. I had expected more from Nokia though. I am used to Nokia cameras beeing the best on the market from previous experience.
Sound quality in the jack stick is an insult. It's horrible even if you have very low standards and it will hurt your ears. If you buy this phone, go to a Telenor store and get the black BH-111 bluetooth headset for 199 kr. It has a decent sound output if you throw away the earbuds that come with it and get some better ones. (The tranciever is detachable and has a mini-jack output and a build in microphone)
But there are some good things about the phone too:
WP7 is an absolute joy to use. I love it. I come from the SGS 2 and I did a lot of modding, exceeding 2 GB of custom firmware downloads each month. But I don't miss that at all with this phone, because everything just runs smoothly. I have had a few app crashes, mainly starting settings and the browser, but I can live with that.
I like the design and the build quality is pretty good although the buttons do feel flimsy on some devices. I am not too fussed about that though. The curves makes the phone nice to hold, but the 4 corners aren't that comfortable when you hold it for longer periods of time like 5 minutes plus. The curved glass is great though and it sits close to flush with the rest of the phone. The plastic feels nice when you hold it and looks pretty good too.
Call quality is pretty good in my oppinion and so is the antenna. I get better signal strength with this phone than I did with the SGS 2.
Bottom line: I expected a better device from Nokia. There is no way in h*** this phone will last for two weeks on stand by which is in fact what they claim on their web site and even if you call Nokia Care.
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Kuresu said:
I'll stick to my damaged htc hero for now
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Good idea ;-)
The batter is bad compared to other devices yes. My Xperia Play I could easily get two days out of. Even three. Even so I charged every single night because I want full juice at the start of every day. So the worse battery life does not really affect me even though I know it's there. The camera and audio is confirmed by Nokia to be adressed on future seperate updates that hopefully will fix the issues.
But whats the point really if the majority of the userbase are still complaining about bad batterylife.
I'd say camera/audio comes in second until the phone can last more than 24hours on whats supposed to be regular usage. I hope its faulty software and not hardware.
For all 3 parts, battery/audio/camera
Amen.
I'm not too optimistic about the battery issue being software related.
I agree the battery is very bad. I'm coming from a phone that used 1% battery in 3 hours standby time. With very minimal use I could use that phone for a week without charge but I charged it every night anyway. Coming to this is a world of difference.
I'm just saying that I can live with it.
With light to medium use I am getting one and a half days use on 3G. My LG 900 struggled to last 10 hours.
got this phone 3 days ago and experiencing absolutely retarded battery life. not getting more than 6-7 hours with MINIMAL usage and all chats logged off. WTF Nokia?
PS: My other phone is the Galaxy Note which has phenomenal battery life.
Im not from Denmark...but I am close enough
I bought the NL800 a few days ago with fw 11501, and have no problems with battery at all, and I am on 3g all the time, I play music, surf, update for email every 1 hour, and my battery last aprox. 1 and a half day..And that is what I would expect from this device with my use.
Only thing bugging me right now, is of course the brightness bug and the poor quality in music playback. But those are scheduled to be fixed, so if that don't take forever, then the NL800 is a keeper for me.
But on another side..the screen is a tad small, but I will get used to it...if not, I will probably get the NL900/910 or w/e they decide to call it in europe
Same as above, i have firmware 11501, and at first battery was bad. But the more i use the phone let it go right down and charge it seems to have been last longer. So far i have been using it for 15 hours. Listening to music, facebook, emails as soon as they come in. 3G, texts, facebook chat. I am a really heavy user just now as its the honeymoon period. But anyway, the only thing that is really annoying me is the camera and the audio. I listen to my audio with headphones on (Dr. Dre Beats) so i get the base im after. But it shouldn't take a £80 pair of headphones to get the audio quality im after. Nokia get an update out now!
my lumia will arrive tomorrow, and then i will test the battery life agains my radar and my titan, my titan's battery last for atleast two days with minimal usage. same goes for the radar.
How's the battery life on the HTC Radar compared to the Lumia 710? if anyone have had hands on experience, that would be appreciated.
I am coming from a Nexus S, will I see an improvement with the Radar?
Thanks!
Best battery life of any smartphone I have ever used.
And I have used :
Toshiba TG01
HTC HD2
HTC Desire
Galaxy S
You will definitely notice the difference.
I've had quite a few Android phones as well as WM6.5 and one WP7 phone - this phone is showing the absolute best battery life out of ANY of them. I'm easily going 24 hours without charging.
Heavy use, sync on, no auto brightness, wifi sharing... Lasts at least 24 hours. Usually dies on 35 hours of use. I carry my charger everywhere, so I use it all the way.
Great, Thanks guys. It's very encouraging to know that this phone can last nearly/over 24 hours. My battery life on my Nexus S can only last 12 hours with brightness set low, background data ON, and 3G (medium-usage). Tired of charging my phone twice per day. Good to know that a single charge on this phone will last me an entire work day.
theguy said:
Best battery life of any smartphone I have ever used.
And I have used :
Toshiba TG01
HTC HD2
HTC Desire
Galaxy S
You will definitely notice the difference.
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JWhipple said:
I've had quite a few Android phones as well as WM6.5 and one WP7 phone - this phone is showing the absolute best battery life out of ANY of them. I'm easily going 24 hours without charging.
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Heavy use, sync on, no auto brightness, wifi sharing... Lasts at least 24 hours. Usually dies on 35 hours of use. I carry my charger everywhere, so I use it all the way.
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Are you guys on 3G or Edge?
AsianXL said:
Are you guys on 3G or Edge?
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4G actually... I keep the WiFi turned on when I am at work (8 hours a day) and at home though.
1 day 15 hours since last charge.
11 hours remaining.
20% left.
Dude this phone has the best battery life I have ever seen. And the only battery saver that I have ever seen actually work too!
OMG If you turn off "As items arrive" and set it to "15 min" in the email settings it does WONDERS for battery life... lol... New discovery for me
Does turning the automatic brightness option on save battery life compared to leaving it at the medium setting?
Thanks!
kikiodead said:
1 day 15 hours since last charge.
11 hours remaining.
20% left.
Dude this phone has the best battery life I have ever seen. And the only battery saver that I have ever seen actually work too!
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Wow nice stats. Were you using the battery saving feature the entire time?
the best battery smartphone i ever used, no problem for 24h with 3G on all time, 2 email accounts, bluetooth on aprox 8 hours, 1-2 h of voice calls, 10-20 sms, 40-50 emails, twitter, facebook from time to time..... best ever for me.... and i own a lot of phones... but i always go back to the radar.
Best battery life really for a smartphone (even if it is a little bit dumb ;-). I am charging it every 4th day!!!
Wifi is ON all the time, phone is minimally used actually (it is at home all the time and I have very poor NW service at home). I just use it to take pics/videos of my kid (camera is great in daylight, relatively poor in dark) and to play some games/install apps or to just generally scroll around. Maybe screen in ON for about 2 hours during the 4 days in between charges. Also few SMS sent/received. Also one hotmail acc and one X-Box account configured and syncing. No FB on this phone yet. Brightness is set to Auto (b default not in battery saver mode). This phone was mainly bought for camera!
My primary phone is the HTC Sensation. In comparison, I need to recharge it every night. At best, if I keep wifi off then can make it to second day (best I ever managed on Sensation was almost 2 days). Have stopped bothering about battery life on Sensation now! I can afford to recharge it every night. Bought Sensation mainly for the gorgeous 4.3 inch screen (good for navigation and browsing).
Previously have also used HTC Touch Diamond. It used to give me 2 days of regular use (without any use it would go on for 3 days). I am not a heavy user actually.
joslicx said:
Best battery life really for a smartphone (even if it is a little bit dumb ;-). I am charging it every 4th day!!!
Wifi is ON all the time, phone is minimally used actually (it is at home all the time and I have very poor NW service at home). I just use it to take pics/videos of my kid (camera is great in daylight, relatively poor in dark) and to play some games/install apps or to just generally scroll around. Maybe screen in ON for about 2 hours during the 4 days in between charges. Also few SMS sent/received. Also one hotmail acc and one X-Box account configured and syncing. No FB on this phone yet. Brightness is set to Auto (b default not in battery saver mode). This phone was mainly bought for camera!
My primary phone is the HTC Sensation. In comparison, I need to recharge it every night. At best, if I keep wifi off then can make it to second day (best I ever managed on Sensation was almost 2 days). Have stopped bothering about battery life on Sensation now! I can afford to recharge it every night. Bought Sensation mainly for the gorgeous 4.3 inch screen (good for navigation and browsing).
Previously have also used HTC Touch Diamond. It used to give me 2 days of regular use (without any use it would go on for 3 days). I am not a heavy user actually.
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why you sayin abit dumb...beg to differ with you
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why you sayin abit dumb...beg to differ with you
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what is dumb about what i said???
that battery stats or usage stats? the phone is actually used by my wife who uses it only when we go out. At home we have a landline connection which is very cheap to use compared to a mobile. She is not working so is at home most of the time. she is not a geek (is a doctor actually) and doesnt have FB page (she finds FB too technical!!!). The phone indeed gives us 4 days of minimalistic use (the use is either taking pics of our kid or me playing with it!) right now the battery stats say 39% charge remaining, time since last charge 2 days 6 hours and still can go for 1d9h! If you dont want to believe that be my guest.
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what is dumb about what i said???
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I think he was referring to what you said in your original post about it being a smartphone and you wrote even if it is a bit dumb.
He was asking why you think its a bit dumb. At least that's the way I read it.
Great battery life on this thing for sure though
xda45 said:
I think he was referring to what you said in your original post about it being a smartphone and you wrote even if it is a bit dumb.
He was asking why you think its a bit dumb. At least that's the way I read it.
Great battery life on this thing for sure though
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Oh I get it. Well the OS is a bit dumb really. Some simple and useful features missing and the Zune dependency. But the dumbest of the lot is this feature whereby the phone automatically switches off wifi to save battery when the phone goes to standby! So if you started downloading any app and while download if phone goes to standby then the download fails and you need to restart from the beginning again! Its irksome coz this means to download you need to keep the screen on. I found it dumb really!
xda45 said:
I think he was referring to what you said in your original post about it being a smartphone and you wrote even if it is a bit dumb.
He was asking why you think its a bit dumb. At least that's the way I read it.
Great battery life on this thing for sure though
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this is exactly what i meant,
cheers @xda45
I'm just amazed at the battery life on this thing... I've been going for 2 days straight and haven't plugged in yet. It's low (though I can't tell how low, but the meter is pretty thin), but I'm trying to see how long before I get some sort of "plug your phone in!" warning.
One caveat, I have a strong wifi signal at home, which is where I was for the entire weekend - so that obviously helps. But still...
I have to say this is a VERY impressive phone. Battery life is spectacular compared to any single android phone I've ever used. Any android phone I've used would die around 8 hours of moderate usage, and with this Radar it can last practically the entire day.
The simplicity of the phone does leave a bit to be desired, but I'll take it when the phone can last an entire day without worrying about the battery life. More apps will come in due time.