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today my at&t tilt2 accidently fell from my hands and got heavily scratched on the chrome shell (bezel) the bezel even got few small dents & & the chrome colour came out
so i wanted to ask how can i remove this bezel,as i thought to remove it sand it & then paint it chrome again
& also suggest me is my idea good or not
no rplys? atleast tell me hw can i remove those scratches & dents
i wanna know this too since i just dropped mine today and its a fairly small chip but i still get a little crazy over it
please help us out
Sorry for bad news but to remove the bezel you'll need to fully dissassemble your TP2. You'll have to dismantle the main housing to unscrew hinges. Once you separate the upper part with LCD you'll be able to open it, and then separate the bezel from LCD and digitizer. I've done it myself couple of times but be aware that is not a 5 minute job (especially if you're new to this). You'll need tools - small philips screwdriver, small star screwdriver an special plastic prying tool (couple of them, they get broken easily, you don't have to use them but you'll most likely scratch the phone). You can get tool sets on ebay. Word of advice - if only possible try not to separate LCD and digitizer. Once you get dust and/or fingerprints between them it's a HELL of a job to get rid of them.
Check out mike channon's site for dissassembly guide.
Good luck guys!
EDIT: Personally, I would rather try to do some touch-up repairs without opening the phone if possible.
touch up repairs like what? suggest me something specific
I want to replace my screen and bezel but don't mind stripping the whole phone down if thats what is needed.
Try this link http://translate.google.co.uk/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.pdacenter.ru%2Frazborka%2Fhtc_touch_pro2%2F&sl=ru&tl=en&hl=en&ie=UTF-8
As mentioned by pjm77 this does not look easy, and chances are if your not very careful you could mess up your phone.
By touch up I mean trying to paint the damage to make it less visible. Can't really say if that's possible in your case - judge for yourself. Dissassembling the whole phone is by all means possible, I was able to do it several times and I'm just an enthusiast. Just bear in mind that unless you're really skillfull and experienced you end up with a little damage here and there (clips broken, scratches etc.), it's time consuming and there is a risk of serious damage. In the end you may just put a lot of effort into it and be a little disappointed with the final result. But maybe not, it's up to you. Whatever your decision is - good luck!
EDIT: To be more specific I'll give you the real life example of touch-up. I had an awful, long and deep scratch on the back of my LCD (you can see that black, metal part when you slide out the keyboard). I took the masking tape and precisely shaped it in a way that only the scratch was visible (I'd say less than 0,5 of mm wide). Then I took a black paint (originally for my mother's renault) and painted the scratch. Aftrer half an hour I removed the masking tape. The repair is not perfect in any way, the scratch is still there if you know where to look. But I just never noticed it again and simply forgot about it until today.
I used a touch up pen from Staples that has metallic ink. It was a Silver Pilot Pen with Fine Point tip. Like pjm said, touch up paint isn't going to make it look perfect, but the scuffs on the chrome bezel are less noticeable. The ink is a little lighter than the chrome but makes the black cuffs disappear and is nice because you can get small marks with the fine point. I think it was $2.99.
Okay, so, I have a Gray Prime that is decent enough (haptic feedback doesn't work, but the screen is excellent with little bleed, speakers are great, wifi/GPS/BT are typical), except that the backplate came from the factory with a number of pretty significant smudges. It almost looks stained, but I'm hopeful that with the right method I might be able to clean it up.
Any ideas? Just using a microfiber cloth didn't remove the marks, nor did using water by itself.
I noticed this also from oil from fingers n such on backplate. Maybe a non acidic solution of some sort. Don't want to use anything that will eat away St backplate over time. Cloth n water seemed to work initially. Only real solution tl this is tl clean backplate then out a case on it. LR you'll always be cleaning it. At least the included cloth works great on the screen. Wipes screen clean very easily.
Try the official method, http://anodizing.org/FAQ/faq_cont2.html#Cleaning
More at http://google.com/search?q=how+to+clean+anodized+aluminum
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I noticed this also from oil from fingers n such on backplate. Maybe a non acidic solution of some sort. Don't want to use anything that will eat away St backplate over time. Cloth n water seemed to work initially. Only real solution tl this is tl clean backplate then out a case on it. LR you'll always be cleaning it. At least the included cloth works great on the screen. Wipes screen clean very easily.
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Note that this isn't just fingerprints I'm talking about. Those have been pretty easy to wipe off on the other Primes I've had. These are what look like stains, but as I've scrubbed them SOME parts come off and others don't. It looks like someone at the factor was handling some kind of chemical and didn't wash his/her hands before handling the backplate.
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Try the official method, http://anodizing.org/FAQ/faq_cont2.html#Cleaning
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I'll check it out, thanks!
I had some glue or something on the back of mine.
If you are one of the minority of non believers, be very, very careful that you do not remove the serial number sticker.
use non-scented hand sanitizor. I always use it to clean my HTC sensation. I also clean my screen, which has never hurt my zagg invishield.
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use non-scented hand sanitizor. I always use it to clean my HTC sensation. I also clean my screen, which has never hurt my zagg invishield.
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Probably wouldn't use hand sanitizer on a screen, as it contains alcohol. It can/will discolor your screen. However, hand sanitizer, or rubbing alcohol (in controlled amounts) would be just fine for the aluminum. I worked for a sign shop for 5 years and we used denatured alcohol on all metals. It can eat paint if used in large doses, but on a cotton swab, it should be just fine. Don't use it on the screen side though.. Just a bit of water and a micro fiber cloth..
I use baby wipes to clean the back
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I use baby wipes to clean the back
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I have kids, so I have used baby wipes on a couple occasions.. Great for if you're cleaning your tools of oil! However, they seem to leave a bit of a "slick" residue afterwards.. And I'm talking about using clean wipes, not used..
Um, wipe with baby wipe, then dry it off and no residue
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Probably wouldn't use hand sanitizer on a screen, as it contains alcohol. It can/will discolor your screen. However, hand sanitizer, or rubbing alcohol (in controlled amounts) would be just fine for the aluminum. I worked for a sign shop for 5 years and we used denatured alcohol on all metals. It can eat paint if used in large doses, but on a cotton swab, it should be just fine. Don't use it on the screen side though.. Just a bit of water and a micro fiber cloth..
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I can assure you, it works flawless with out any issues. Nothing works better that i have found. i have cleaned numerous phones and my rooted nook color. Ive had it for 6 months and clean it weekly.
Dear all,
I am here to just warn you of who ever owns a roxfit case, for those who have not stick it on to their phone you might want to reconsider before doing so. And for those who have it on already you might want to reconsider as well.
I bought this case like a month ago and used it for a month. Yes it is a good case "full protection" but when i tried to take it off today i realized the following:
1- it is a PAIN in the ____ to take it off, I am not even kidding. You might think why would you want to take it off? cause one day you want to clean up the dust, take out the sim card, or maybe switch case. I nearly had to break the top left corner, that little thin strand infront of the power button, and find something to stick into the top right.
Yes, i know it might not be the right way to take it off, but I have done some research and it seems like no one knows what is the "proper way" to take it off.
ANYWAY to get to the worst part
2- you know the inside of the case it has the black rectangle thingy with white words on it saying "roxfit?" Well, when i took off the case, i realized a bunch of little tiny black/grey dots on the back of my phone. No, I cannot rub it off, and i also tried erasing it off (which is not a good idea, cause it does rub off the anti-coating and causes it to look shiny which was described in another thread)
I know its just the back cover, but still...
Not trying to complain or anything, just keep your eyes open when choosing your case
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Dear all,
I am here to just warn you of who ever owns a roxfit case, for those who have not stick it on to their phone you might want to reconsider before doing so. And for those who have it on already you might want to reconsider as well.
I bought this case like a month ago and used it for a month. Yes it is a good case "full protection" but when i tried to take it off today i realized the following:
1- it is a PAIN in the ____ to take it off, I am not even kidding. You might think why would you want to take it off? cause one day you want to clean up the dust, take out the sim card, or maybe switch case. I nearly had to break the top left corner, that little thin strand infront of the power button, and find something to stick into the top right.
Yes, i know it might not be the right way to take it off, but I have done some research and it seems like no one knows what is the "proper way" to take it off.
ANYWAY to get to the worst part
2- you know the inside of the case it has the black rectangle thingy with white words on it saying "roxfit?" Well, when i took off the case, i realized a bunch of little tiny black/grey dots on the back of my phone. No, I cannot rub it off, and i also tried erasing it off (which is not a good idea, cause it does rub off the anti-coating and causes it to look shiny which was described in another thread)
I know its just the back cover, but still...
Not trying to complain or anything, just keep your eyes open when choosing your case
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I've have 2 of their products for my S, I have the hard shell, which I broke trying to take it off, those little this bits near the switches are a pain and a weak spot. This case had a thin felt patch inside to stop it rubbing the back of my S.
I also have the leather flip over case , i've had to stop using this because unlike the hard shell there is no felt patch inside to stop it rubbing , now I have marks on the back of my phone.
For the money I paid for these items, you'd think a bit more thought would go into the design...
I know, matte coating is not a cool thing, it just feels nice.
i dont know about your XPS but on mine the front bottom part where it says "xperia" that part is also glossy shiny, obviously that part's anti coating is rubbing off just by putting in my pockets.
this is what i am planning to do instead of making the same mistakes again.
the best thing to do is to get the zagg full body kit and protect the [ top, bottom, and the "xperia part" on the front ] and then get a case that only covers the sides and the back.
I had a roxfit and never had such problems.
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Thanks for the warning. In the case thread there was someone saying something about the shell feeling loose. (maybe it was you, dont remember).
I guess thats what you get with a hard shell that covers the phone's back and sides completely unless it was made of two parts or from soft material like TPU. I thought of buying this on long time ago because none of the TPU cases had a good fitt (and the buttons still usable).
I never did buy this one, but thougt about it since it's for me the best next to my TPU preference. I'm using a (little reshaped with hot water) 'Nillkin' TPU case at the moment. I also have a 'Gimmick Five' hard case, but i don't like the edges (like almost all hard cases) , its not smooth when putting it in and getting it out of my pocket for a phone with this size. I also do't think those cases offer much protection.
If you're planning on buying a ZAGG invisibleShield read this too: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=27896421&postcount=6
and remember this skin is only for scratches not fall damage duh (cases/covers/shells might help a little with low height falls)
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I had a roxfit and never had such problems.
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Can you give us some more info? how is the fit? is it easy to take out? do you have any little scratches of the coating on the edges?
@LitoNi The case is a little flexible, maybe it has also to do with how someone tries to pull of the case?
I took my case many times off. Yeah it's not easy, that's for sure but I can't confirm your other complaints.
My phone slipped once out of my hand and landed on hard ground. I just have a few scratches on the top right corner and bottom left corner.
without the case the damage would have been probably much worse.
The case also was damaged in the bottom.
Currently I'm waiting for my nillkin flip leather case. Hope it will protect the front as well now.
Edit: that is now a little embarrassing. I actually have a krusell case, but the should be the same
I have the roxfit hard shell as well. It fits perfectly and doesn't feel loose at all. As for taking it off, well yeah it's a snug fit, so taking it off requires a bit of fiddling. But it is definitely not impossible to take it off without breaking it. Then again you shouldn't have to take it off daily, so for me it's not a problem.I usually just push the bottom corners of the case down, then you can stick your nail through the hole on the bottom and just push the phone out completely. Not that hard to do.
Also mine does not leave any traces on the phone. I'm pretty happy with this case.
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i guess i was just the unlucky one with the stains.
anyway i changed the title so it wont be directly talking about roxfit, but cases in general
taking it out is slightly a pain in the ass... you need to flick it out from the powet button corner follow by volume side... one you flick it past both the 2 buttons, the rest is a breeze...
no there's no stain on the phone....
thanks
Thanks for the warning..
superlimau said:
taking it out is slightly a pain in the ass... you need to flick it out from the powet button corner follow by volume side... one you flick it past both the 2 buttons, the rest is a breeze...
no there's no stain on the phone....
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i start with the left side and bottom, then top side and last the right side. works everytime
Let me add that there is also a slider shell case: Incipio EDGE Hard Shell Slider Case
But please talk about this on the Xperia S Case show thread and let this thread be only for the Roxfit and Krusell shells :fingers-crossed:
It has done exactly the same to my phone....It's a joke!!!!!
UPDATE: So, the digitizer I bought developed a massive dead zone. I already contacted the amazon store I bought it from, they're replacing it for me. Why does this matter? Because now I get to update this post with pictures/video! So, yeah, I guess this guide should get a lot more helpful soon.
Update 2: Ok, so, I don't even know how to express my anger and frustration. This girl at work shoved my phone out of my hands and into the leg of a table, completely destroying my phone. So, yeah, sorry, I guess I won't be updating with pictures/video, because the amazon store isn't going to take the screen back now.
Yo, guys. If anyone noticed that I was gone, I'm flattered, since I don't post a lot. But yeah, I havent had my Optimus G in about a month, so I havent been on this forum. In that time, I went through my Second Motorola Atrix HD, a broken Galaxy S3, and even lived through Google Voice on my computer. It's an extremely long story, and kind of ridiculous, so I'll spare the details.
HOWEVER, I did finally just buy a replacement Digitizer and LCD screen, and successfully installed it, and I want to share tips for anyone doing it themselves.
When removing the back, after you've removed torx screws, start prying the back off from in between where the Sim card and MicroSD go. Where the back of the phone and the chassis of the phone are separate is much more obvious in that cavity, PLUS dents/dings from jamming a screwdriver in there wont be noticeable when you put the bay cover back on.
Don't force anything off. Make sure you've removed every screw, unclipped every clip, and removed ribbons from everything you're trying to take off.
Removing the battery is tricky. Be careful not to deform it too much, cause that's dangerous. But there are 2 strips of double sided tape running horizontally beneath the battery. Try to get something between the top one and the battery, then carefully pull the battery off the second strip with your hands. sticking too much stuff beneath it to pry it up is going to cause some trouble, so lifting it with your fingers might be better.
Remove the motherboard. detatch all the ribbons, antennae, everything, then pull up from the left, then slide left and out. This is how I got it out with the least resistance, but there is no science to it. If you've gotten this far, you can figure out how to pull it out without breaking it in half.
Components that need to be removed before LCD+Digitizer removal:
Motherboard
Battery
Camera
Just put them off to the side, you don't want them damaged during the next part.
WARNING! If you plan on saving your LCD screen, DO NOT DO THIS. The high heat will cook your screen and make it unusable. Only do this to remove a broken or unsavable Digitizer+LCD.
Alright, now pull out the heat gun. Alternatively, you can do what I did, and use a hair dryer. Not even kidding, this will work fine, and will be hilarious when you tell your friends about it.
On a high heat, start heating the screen. If you're using a heat gun, just do your thing, you know how it works. Hair dryer folks, keep the dryer very low to the phone, low enough to feel the dryer being pushed up by the air, holding it just high enough so it sort of hovers. (You'll know what I mean when you try it. If you don't, just keep it about half an inch off the phone.) Move the dryer along the edges of the screen, all the way around, thats where the glue is. It should heat up pretty fast.
Using your pry tool, start at the speaker grill and pry all the way around the phone. lifting just slightly upwards. If it's not extremely easy, apply more heat. Work all the way around, then pull the screen off. Be careful, it's likely you'll shatter the screen even more at this part if you're not careful. User Bozwell had an excellent suggestion (post 4), cover your screen in tape, then begin separating the screen to keep from getting glass everywhere. Great idea, Boz!
Alright, so from here on out, it's just reassembling your phone correctly. Piece o cake.
Firstly, put your new screen in. If it came with adhesive, it's up to you if you want to apply it now. I'd think you probably have to, but up to you.
If you're like me, and no adhesive was provided, hold off on doing anything for now. Just put the screen in the hole, and thread the ribbons through.
The motherboard lines up with some contacts on the chassis in a few places, but most importantly, there is a connection on the top left corner of the body, and the UNDERSIDE of the motherboard that needs to be made. I believe it's proximity sensor, but not sure. It's very difficult to tell if its attached, but look at what I'm describing, and try your best to mate them.
Don't forget ANY cables. Like, that's pretty obvious, but even when you're sure you didnt forget any, check again. The camera's ribbon is underneath the screen's, don't forget that one. I reassebled the whole thing, everything was working perfectly, except I no longer had any mobile connection. I couldn't imagine what I'd broken, since that's a whole different area, but going to phone status and checking my signal strength revealed I forgot to reconnect the white antennae (status showed my signal at -200,000 dbm). So, double check, because the more often you have to reopen your phone, the more flimsy it's going to get.
Alright, screw the plastic shielding back on, reconnect your battery, then flip the phone to be face up. Power it on, test the screen to make sure it's functional. If all is well, power off and glue the screen in. What I did, and I welcome anyone to tell me a better glue type or method, is plain ol Super glue along all the edges where the old glue was. Press it in, flip it over, and while it's drying, finish reassembling the phone (should just be make sure everything is screwed in inside, then put back glass back on.
If your screen wasn't functional, I guess try to get it replaced by whoever you bought it from, and leave your phone disassembled for when it gets to your house.
Alright, that's pretty much the thick and thin of it, it genuinely isn't that hard of a replacement. I've done a number of digitizer/lcd replacements, not bad at all. I hope this helped anyone stuck or wondering about anything. This video can be used as a rough example, but it goes really fast.
Good Luck!
replacement of lcd/digitzer
the removal was a nightmare for me. It was hilarious when the glass cracked it was exploding into a million little bitty pieces. I didnt use much heat, and there lied my problem. But yeah mine cracked in a way that it was completely unresponsive.
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the removal was a nightmare for me. It was hilarious when the glass cracked it was exploding into a million little bitty pieces. I didnt use much heat, and there lied my problem. But yeah mine cracked in a way that it was completely unresponsive.
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Haha that's crazy, it bothers me how fragile this phone seems to be.
To keep the glass shards from going everywhere try covering the screen in tape before you start.
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To keep the glass shards from going everywhere try covering the screen in tape before you start.
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Great idea, OP updated!
So, what would I do if the screen itself is ok and it's just the glass (and digitizer) that is broken?
MoFoQ said:
So, what would I do if the screen itself is ok and it's just the glass (and digitizer) that is broken?
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You'll need a real heat gun, I think. You'll have to find a heat just hot enough to soften the glue, but not cook your lcd. Hair dryer method might work if you are extremely careful and very quick, but not sure exactly what the best method would be. Sorry
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You'll need a real heat gun, I think. You'll have to find a heat just hot enough to soften the glue, but not cook your lcd. Hair dryer method might work if you are extremely careful and very quick, but not sure exactly what the best method would be. Sorry
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I figured...though I've been eye-ing using the screen+digitizer+front housing if and when they get back into stock.
(digitizer only is also out-of-stock)
Hey guys. Just thought I'd give you a headsup here.
I've had a bunch of phones (listed in my signature), but I have never encountered this before.
The other day as I was gaming I kept bumping my hand into my phone over and over. This has never happened before, despite that I normally put it on the far corner of the mouse surface to have it readily accessible. I didn't think any of it first and just moved it up, thinking that maybe I accidentally moved the surface or such, causing the phone to move.
Then in some downtime in the gaming I looked down and realized the phone was moving. My god! There was practically zero friction! My phone was just gently gliding around the mouse surface, lolygaging about. I had a little fun with it, poking the phone to make it slide a different direction and making my cat freak out with it.
I then put it to the side on the table, thinking that my hardshell mouse surface was probably so low friction that it made the phone slide around. But the same thing happened on my wooden desk. It kept sliding around. Then I turned it over with the display upwards, and it was fine.
This morning same thing happened, and it actuall slid off the edge of my kitchen counter (marble) and into the floor! The phone is fine, by some kind of miracle, but I was surprised it managed to pick up enough speed to not get stuck on the edge of the counter. I tried pouring some water on the counter to see if it was leaning, but nope. Flat on both according to the water and a spirit level.
My only conclusion is that the phone is so flat all around, including bezels, that it creates a small air bubble underneith it, which it then slides on. The feeling is that of an air cushion as well.
I realize most people probably dont put it display down, but if you do, be aware of this. My phone almost jumped to its death by it, surviving only by a guardian angel. I thought about it and decided it was a big enough risk to give people the headsup.
Stay safe G2'rs!
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Hey guys. Just thought I'd give you a headsup here.
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Good to know. Where I am, they only sell cases for QuickWindow (last I checked). I bought one, but it is taking a while to get used to holding the phone when talking since I can't wrap my fingers around the phone.
I was considering taking it off, but that notion is no longer in my head thanks to your post. BTW, you should post some vid on messing with the cat!
Hah, I just might. She's like.. "Oh, looks like fun", pokes it a bit, notices how it doesn't act as expected and is all like "BLAARGH" smashing it around and trying to kill it. xD
The screen is very silky, compared to my S3, Atrix, Kindle and my friends HTC 8S.
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So what you're saying is glass is slippery? In other news the sun will set in the west tonight. Just kidding, but I wouldn't ever put my phone face down without some type of case to keep the glass from contacting anything bad. The Nexus 4 was extremely slippery, the way LG is making curved edges on the screens doesn't help in that regard.
Well, I've learnt to put mine screen down to protect it from things falling on it. The nature of my job means things may well fall on it. I use a screen protector film anyways.
And yes, glass can be slippery but doesn't have to be. None of my other phones have had this kind of behavior, probably due to them having a slight lift from the frame, keeping the glass off the actual surface.
Regardless, for some its a non-issue, but for those that it might affect, I thought I'd share.
Hoverboards are next. I can feel it.
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Regardless, for some its a non-issue, but for those that it might affect, I thought I'd share.
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This is a good point. I usually flip my phone screen down at night so the notifications LED isn't lighting up the room. Needless to say, my dog wasn't very amused when the phone slid off the nightstand and woke her up.
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Hoverboards are next. I can feel it.
Sent from a van down by the river using my AT&T LG G2 and Tapatalk 4.
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I lol'd at your post as well as your signature.
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This is a good point. I usually flip my phone screen down at night so the notifications LED isn't lighting up the room. Needless to say, my dog wasn't very amused when the phone slid off the nightstand and woke her up.
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So I'm not alone! Lets hope someone saves a screen at least.
thanks for the headsup, on low friction surfaces things slide.
You check if you need to level your furniture so gravity doesnt make things slide
a case would help as well
Pretty common occurence also on the shiny plastic Samsung devices Even iPhones suffer from it.
Again, it's most likely due to the curved glass edge of the LG screen. I prefer the curved glass, and my best suggestion to those that need to put their phone face down due to work hazards should probably put a case on the phone. If heavy things have a chance of falling on it, it's probably a good idea the phone is either in a case or in your pocket. Just friendly advice so please don't take it as otherwise.
I had the GNex before so wasnt an issue...but day 1 with the phone. Put it face down on the counter top like I had always done before and got in the shower. My wife comes in and all the sudden.....BAM! My phone hits the ground. (thankfully on the mat!) She said she saw it kinda "gliding" towards the edge. Low and behold, this thing almost floats face down on any slick surface. I almost never put it face down anymore...lesson learned.