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Yesterday i tried the new modaco rom and was amazed by the speed unfortunatly i'd have to reinstall everything else so i restored the premade nandroid backup..
Has anyone experiences with a good backup application on the Hero ? Currently i'm thinking about using the App Manager + Handy Backup (free apps from Android Market) but i'm afraid that some data could be missing..
greetz rivak
I've not tried Handy.
I can confirm that neither MyBackupPro nor Backup for Root Users correctly backup/restore the HTC Sense UI stuff, so you will lose all your home screen customisations.
AppManager will backup apps, but only free ones, not paid/protected ones. I'm not aware of anythign that does, but of course you could just copy the apk files manually.
I'n not aware of an app that correctly backs up app *settings* either, but would love to know of one.
I tried Sprite, but its restore actually failed to complete. I didn't have time to play with it, so got a refund.
I can imagine the difficulty of writing an app to backup "settings" for ROM changes, as different ROM could have different adjustable settings...
I hope that HTC could provide us some app to back up settings within their apps, or allow us to export those settings (e.g. exporting saved custom Sense)
cdmackay said:
AppManager will backup apps, but only free ones, not paid/protected ones. I'm not aware of anythign that does, but of course you could just copy the apk files manually.
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AppManager will backup paid apps - it is only protected ones that it can't do. Since many paid apps are protected, the distinction is minor, but it is worth pointing out.
However, since the Market remembers your paid apps anyway, it is a rather moot point, since paid apps are generally very easy to recover directly from the Market. I use AppManager to backup and restore all the free apps that I use, as it saves me (a) having to remember what I installed and (b) hunting round for them on the Market.
Regards,
Dave
foxmeister said:
AppManager will backup paid apps - it is only protected ones that it can't do. Since many paid apps are protected, the distinction is minor, but it is worth pointing out.
However, since the Market remembers your paid apps anyway, it is a rather moot point, since paid apps are generally very easy to recover directly from the Market. I use AppManager to backup and restore all the free apps that I use, as it saves me (a) having to remember what I installed and (b) hunting round for them on the Market.
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Dave
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But does the restore really work flawless with free apps? i made the experience with many wm phones and different backup apps like sprite backup, that you will nearly always have some kind of minor bugs after restoring data (especially if you made a FW update). Thats why i resorted in setting up everything manually again, which is the cleanest way to setup a newly updates device. So is using appmanager for restoring apps really safe?
Well, thus far I've not had a problem with any apps that I restored using AppManager. Essentially all it does is copy the APKs to to the SD card, and reinstalls them when you restore. Therefore, I don't see any reason why they shouldn't work just as well as redownloading from the market, since that is just going to download and install the same APK.
Regards,
Dave
foxmeister said:
AppManager will backup paid apps - it is only protected ones that it can't do. Since many paid apps are protected, the distinction is minor, but it is worth pointing out.
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indeed yes, apols; I've blurred this distinction before, too
foxmeister said:
However, since the Market remembers your paid apps anyway, it is a rather moot point, since paid apps are generally very easy to recover directly from the Market.
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Well, it's easy, yes, but also rather tedious if you've got dozens of paid apps, as you'd have to re-installed each one individually.
Anyway, the latest Root Explorer can now copy around entire directory hierarchies, so I'll just use that to take a copy of the protected apk files, and restore them after.
there is one major drawback to those backup apps:
after restoring all apps the android market doesn't recognize those installled apps, and therefore there i had no easy overview of app update notes.
but since this is an important feature i had to reinstall everything from the market again, so i can see in the download list if my apps have got any updates...
so while app manager did work, this drawback makes it unusable for me sadly...
Note that aTrackDog gives similar functionality, so that is at least a workaround.
Backup for root users claims to backupt the Market DB, and it did seem to work a bit, in that some, but not all, of my non-paid apps show as installed. Odd.
Another huge problem with AppManager, I'vejust found, is when you use it to re-install 100-odd apps: you still have to answer two prompts for each one (OK & Done).
Since it doesn't even result in the Market DB being correctly updated, you might as well just copy the apk files en masse, using Root Explorer. I would do that in future.
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Note that aTrackDog gives similar functionality, so that is at least a workaround.
Backup for root users claims to backupt the Market DB, and it did seem to work a bit, in that some, but not all, of my non-paid apps show as installed. Odd.
Another huge problem with AppManager, I'vejust found, is when you use it to re-install 100-odd apps: you still have to answer two prompts for each one (OK & Done).
Since it doesn't even result in the Market DB being correctly updated, you might as well just copy the apk files en masse, using Root Explorer. I would do that in future.
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root explorer sounds like you need a rooted device for it. correct?
Shahpur.Azizpour said:
root explorer sounds like you need a rooted device for it. correct?
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yes, that's right; the easiest way is to install the MoDaCo custom ROM, which currently includes the new 2.0 HTC release, too
cdmackay said:
yes, that's right; the easiest way is to install the MoDaCo custom ROM, which currently includes the new 2.0 HTC release, too
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do you mean the FW update by htc 2.0? i did the update using the RUU - no need for rooting...
Shahpur.Azizpour said:
do you mean the FW update by htc 2.0? i did the update using the RUU - no need for rooting...
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No, not quite. the MoDaCo custom ROM is based on HTC's 2.0, but is already rooted, so you can run root explorer, and other apps needing root, directly. It also has lots of other tweaks. You *do* need root to run Root Explorer.
Unfortunately, if you've installed the HTC RUU, you've also likely been installed a new bootloader which has removed your ability to boot custom recovery images, and so removed your ability to gain root in the future. The MoDaCo ROM does not include the new bootloader (which is not otherwise required).
But all is not lost: apparently you can use a tool called "flashrec" to restore the old bootloader... lots more detail at the MoDaCo site.
Does Backup for Root work then other than missing a few apps?
Seemed ok for me, other than:
- not backing up protected apps, even thought it could
- not backing up the HTC Sense UI desktop, folders, etc.
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Seemed ok for me, other than:
- not backing up protected apps, even thought it could
- not backing up the HTC Sense UI desktop, folders, etc.
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Sounds promising...were you using the latest version? Noticed the dev saying was aware of bugs on latest version, and suggesting may be better to use the old version.
Thanks
Phil
yup, latest version. I think those comments are a rejoinder to some others commenting that it had wiped all their data. I've had no problems, and those comments looked a little unlikely to me.
But a nandroid backup is always a good safety measure, before trying anything
backing up SMS and Email
How can you backup all SMS and email so that you re-install them with all threads correct if you change the ROM?
P!
SMS yes; there are several backup tools around; I used SMS Backup for Root.
email: my email is Gmail-based, so no need to backup, as it's not stored on the phone.
OK...I am new to Android. I have my phone rooted but am wondering how can I uninstall some of the junk that came on the Thunderbird. Stuff like Blockbuster and the Golf app. Also how can I change my boot screen? Any tips would be helpful.
Titanium backup,(suggest pro where u can freeze them) is the easiest way.
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I downloaded Titanium backup and it says i am not rooted. I have ROM manager and superuser in my all apps screen.
I chose to install one of the custom roms that just removed the Verizon apps... Provided link below. Though did have to redo some of the root process after flashing the custom rom, but not a huge hassle. Plus got rid of the bloat thanks to adrynalyne
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1000103
still learning this phone. Not sure if I am ready for that yet I do not even know how to flash to a new rom yet. I used the fast root method that just came out yesterday to gain root to the phone. I know....I am not hard core yet.
chas1723 said:
I downloaded Titanium backup and it says i am not rooted. I have ROM manager and superuser in my all apps screen.
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it ti backup there is a option to reinstall busybox. do that and you should be golden.
found busy box that seems to have worked. Do you have to have the paid version to remove apps?
chas1723 said:
found busy box that seems to have worked. Do you have to have the paid version to remove apps?
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free version is ok but pro is better... you can freeze apps first, if it messes something up defrost it and dont uninstall!
Thanks for the help guys. Do you think getting rid of the apps like Blockbuster, Golf, Twitter etc would do any harm?
I deleted mine with TiB, no problems...
now i just have to figure out how to delete them
so i have s-off, root, custom recovery , the works......but y cant i UNINSTALL stupid bloat? i can disable, but not uninstall via an app like my 4gevo ........is me just stupid?
Hummm. Well what have you tried so far???? As in apps??
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did you already flash the su zip or a rooted rom?
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Get Root Explorer and use that, or if you're not sure and need to make sure you have root access just download busybox from the market and it will check to see if you have root, that's a fast way to determine if your root access is functioning or not.
unslav3d said:
so i have s-off, root, custom recovery , the works......but y cant i UNINSTALL stupid bloat? i can disable, but not uninstall via an app like my 4gevo ........is me just stupid?
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Just install Root Explorer from market..then go to system>app> and click and hold on what u want removed and then click delete(If it says it cant be deleted the click where it says write r/o or write r/w up top i always get them confused..lol..then do it again it then they will delete no problem) I just got rid of a crapload of bloat this way..hope it helps
nice thanx guys, yeah i figured it just wasnt as easy as using system app uninstaller n **** =* lol
and yes im all rooted for shizzle n junk and got paid foreman rate on a construction site to do it , while it rained, ****ING GREAT DAY
i wonder why that is though.......ya know?
for clarification, no app uninstaller for root is working for ne one els then right?
unslav3d said:
i wonder why that is though.......ya know?
for clarification, no app uninstaller for root is working for ne one els then right?
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Every root app should work except ones that depend on kernel mods (i. e. market version of Wireless Tether). I used Root Explorer and Titanium Backup to take care of my bloat and all went well.
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I used titanium backup to remove the bloatware. Worked perfect
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Yup tb and re worked fine for me as well.
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I still can't get tb working. All other root apps are fine. Flashed toasts Su an still no joy
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Go to the development section and search for Vipermod, that's the best way to uninstall the bloat
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laie1472 said:
Yup tb and re worked fine for me as well.
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I used titanium backup to remove the bloatware but the icons/shorcuts are still there in the app drawer.
DarkManX4lf said:
I used titanium backup to remove the bloatware but the icons/shorcuts are still there in the app drawer.
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Nevermind, I used viperboy scripts and a reboot later and the bloatware is gone from the app drawer as well. I'm not sure if it was viperboy scripts or titanium backup that removed it from the app drawer but a reboot helped.
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Nevermind, I used viperboy scripts and a reboot later and the bloatware is gone from the app drawer as well. I'm not sure if it was viperboy scripts or titanium backup that removed it from the app drawer but a reboot helped.
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Glad you got it worked out
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Running into strange issue.
Have complete root. Using root explorer, root user granted.
When i first go into the program I can set to R/W. However, once R/W is set and then I go into the system folder it goes back to R/O. If I back out to the first page it goes back to R/W.
It's very weird that it'll only stay R/W on some folders and not others.
Any ideas what might cause this?
UPDATE: I uninstalled root explorer and downloaded ES File Explorer. Gave ES root permissions, and hurrayyyy. I can delete the bloatware.
Please, knows somebody, how to uninstall preinstalled google maps from mediapad? I cant find app in system/apps and Titanium Backup is no way.
It's in /cust/hw/normal/app
Thank you very much. I am gona try to remove it.
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any luck
sorry to bump an old thread but has anybody succeeded in removing the stock maps apk? I need to install a re-engineered version cos navigation is not enabled in my country.
dak****haw said:
sorry to bump an old thread but has anybody succeeded in removing the stock maps apk? I need to install a re-engineered version cos navigation is not enabled in my country.
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Your tablet needs to be rooted to remove system apps. After that you should be able to use Titanium backup or any root explorer to remove the app.
Not working
isolated_epidemic said:
Your tablet needs to be rooted to remove system apps. After that you should be able to use Titanium backup or any root explorer to remove the app.
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Hi, I have already rooted my tab. When I try to use Titanium backup or Root explorer, it says that I cant remove the app because it's read only.
On a lighter note, I hate how my name has been "censored"
dak****haw said:
Hi, I have already rooted my tab. When I try to use Titanium backup or Root explorer, it says that I cant remove the app because it's read only.
On a lighter note, I hate how my name has been "censored"
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Interesting... Are you running a custom ROM, or stock? Second, when using Root Explorer, did you make sure to hit the itty bitty "Mount R/W" button at the top of the file list? Third, have you tried "freezing" the app with Titanium Backup instead of deleting, sometimes that works. Otherwise, you may have to try ADB to remove or rename the apk, or see if someone has a flashable zip for the custom maps apk you need.
Ok, So I have an AT&T HTC One rooted. I installed Titanium Backup to delete bloatware from my phone. but when i restarted the phone this morning to install a kernel, all the apps I had deleted reloaded themselves, am i doing something wrong, or am i missing a step on how to delete these apps permanently? Thanks for any help in Advance.
droidroid956 said:
Ok, So I have an AT&T HTC One rooted. I installed Titanium Backup to delete bloatware from my phone. but when i restarted the phone this morning to install a kernel, all the apps I had deleted reloaded themselves, am i doing something wrong, or am i missing a step on how to delete these apps permanently? Thanks for any help in Advance.
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A lot of people use Titanium to freeze apps; not sure what's happening if they're coming back.
I, on the other hand, rename the apks in root explorer (change the name to camera.apk.bak, for example). Another viable (and easier) option is to find the app in settings -> app -> all and disable it. With both methods, they can easily be reenabled if the mood strikes you.
The stock kernel has write protection so if you delete apps they come back.
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A lot of people use Titanium to freeze apps; not sure what's happening if they're coming back.
I, on the other hand, rename the apks in root explorer (change the name to camera.apk.bak, for example). Another viable (and easier) option is to find the app in settings -> app -> all and disable it. With both methods, they can easily be reenabled if the mood strikes you.
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Thanks. This helped to get them out of sight.
gunnyman said:
The stock kernel has write protection so if you delete apps they come back.
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Ok thanks gunnyman, ill look for a good rom that is stock and debloated.
MV3D