SSH server - HTC Rezound

I did some searching, and was unable to find a working ssh SERVER for the rezound. Has anyone done this before? I am interested in setting up a proxy tunnel through my phone. I tried SSHDroid but it doesn't seem to be working for me.
Thanks

ES file explorer has this built in. I haven't really tried it, but it may be worth checking into.

I have ES explorer, but I don't see an ssh server anywhere

trud9340 said:
I have ES explorer, but I don't see an ssh server anywhere
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That's because I was having a momentary lapse of reason. I was thinking FTP and steered you wrong. Sorry man.

Look for the app that installs linux on your phone then install an ssh server from within the linux chroot. I forget what the app name is because I'm in the middle of flashing roms

What exactly does the Linux Installer do? Create a virtual linux instance, running under the current ROM?

it sets up a chroot environment and installs a full blown Linux OS in your phone (I think the only two choices are Debian and Ubuntu ATM) minus the X Server so it's only the CLI. It may be too convoluted for it to actually work but it's worth a try.

What your looking for is sshdroid its on the play store. I also believe you need to be rooted for it to function

seeker160 said:
What your looking for is sshdroid its on the play store. I also believe you need to be rooted for it to function
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The OP tried that....
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I tried SSHDroid but it doesn't seem to be working for me.
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I gave it a shot and it didn't work for me either. I'm rooted. It gave some quick error that looked like a invalid options screen, but it went by very fast.

Sshdroid seems to start successfully, but when I attempt to ping or ssh to the provided ip address, it doesn't respond.
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With your phone browser, try: http://www.whatismyip.com/ and see if that matches the same IP you think it is.
I got nothing but an error when I tried it. Came to a screen that said revert, .... and adfree. Adfree took you to the market pro version to buy. I think the middle option was cancel. It had an options error displayed quickly on the screen but it didn't stay long.

Were you on wifi or 4g? I only had it work on wifi. The 4g ip4 address isn't publicly routable. I heard the ipv6 address is but i couldn't get that one working either.(Might of been the network I was trying from though or the program I was using for ssh)

Forgot about that. I remember trying to do this with a 4G Hotspot. Even though you have an outside IP, traffic is not allowed back in. For a while when I got it, you couldn't even do a VPN connection with it... kind of useless for a business tool, but they ended up fixing that.

I tried both on WiFi and 4G. They both give me different ips, and for both, I tried the suggested IP, and also the IP thats provided by whatismyip.com.
Seems I'm out of luck. I would have thought that with root, something like this would have been done by some nerd (like me) by now.

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I would have thought that with root, something like this would have been done by some nerd (like me) by now.
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it is not the phone, it is the network. Wifi should work. VNC server works.
Via Rezound using XDA Premium

As someone else mentioned you can't connect to your phone while you're on Verizon's network, because IIRC they're actually "private" IPs but on a huge (NAT'd) network. So you can only really make connections to your Rezound via wifi or somehow setup a reverse connection where the phone initiates the connect. If I understand everything correctly, the problem is you're essentially behind Verizon's firewall which only allows incoming connections from certain IPs or one that were originating from the phone itself.

QuickSSHd works fine for me over WiFi.
Its widget shows current IP, which is convenient.
I'm rooted, of course.

when running on WiFi, you need to poke a hole in your routers firewall to let the ssh traffic into the ip used by your phone.
otherwise, when on the same network as the phone, use the internal ip address of the phone... go to WiFiSettings-> Advanced-> and read the line under 'IP address' should say like 192.168.x.x or 10.x.x.x or 172.

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I tried both on WiFi and 4G. They both give me different ips, and for both, I tried the suggested IP, and also the IP thats provided by whatismyip.com.
Seems I'm out of luck. I would have thought that with root, something like this would have been done by some nerd (like me) by now.
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These "apps" are just wrappers for dropbear SSH Server, which is free. You might be able to build it yourself, but, frankly, dropbear sucks.
Try the Linux CHROOT environment. You'll get OpenSSH which is better than the dropbear SSH server that these "apps" use.
Not only that, but the OpenSSH route allows you to use SSHFS, which will allow you to mount your rezound over wifi as a hard drive wirelessly.
So, man up, and choose Linux ;-)
I'll dig up some thinks for you in a moment.

Tried lildebi and the ubuntu methods and neither works as directed. Going to take a closer look later.
Lildebi fails with execution when it tries to create the file system and the ubuntu process uses an image that is too large for vfat. Going to try to cook an ubuntu filesystem that is 1.5gb and see if I can move on from there.

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[Q] Anyone been able to ssh remotely (not with wifi) to their Thunderbolt?

ssh from your computer over wifi is easy, but doing it over LTE seems to be problematic if not impossible (with the phone acting as the server). It doesn't look like we're given a public ipv4 address and they're just doing an NAT magic to translate it into an ipv4 addy on their end, but it doesnt necessarily link back to you always (if you check your ip over a browser).
With my home connection being SOL as far as having ipv6 thanks to craptactular att "we dont need no ipv6 for our customers," I don't see any possible method to reach the phone.
Blackberries had a static ipv4 (when I had one) but I know that's a dying thing for new phones with ipv4's days numbered.
I know there's other solutions (like vpn), but obviously that's not the same.
i have not had any luck either and that makes sense now cuz i remember having issues with trying to run a server on my phone . damn this is annoying.
I cant get ANY data to work with the exception of once and that was only searching google.com but no other website would work... any ideas anyone?
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i have not had any luck either and that makes sense now cuz i remember having issues with trying to run a server on my phone . damn this is annoying.
I cant get ANY data to work with the exception of once and that was only searching google.com but no other website would work... any ideas anyone?
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Nope, not really. Probably could set up a vpn server on my VPS server and and vpn into that to get around the NAT though and do some work in iptables for routing. That was the only thing I could come up with.
Hi,
I know that it was stated that "ssh from your computer over wifi is easy," but this process is not immediately obviously to me. I have succeeded in sshing with the phone, but not into it. Can someone explain how to ssh into the phone (from a computer with wifi that the phone is also connected into)?
Thank you,
Michael
mcoughlin said:
Hi,
I know that it was stated that "ssh from your computer over wifi is easy," but this process is not immediately obviously to me. I have succeeded in sshing with the phone, but not into it. Can someone explain how to ssh into the phone (from a computer with wifi that the phone is also connected into)?
Thank you,
Michael
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You need an ssh server on your phone. You can either use something like dropbear, which comes by default on most AOSP ROMs and you can figure out how to set it up by reading this or you can use something like sshdroid, which is a GUI app.
I'd be willing to bet that verizion simply blocking ports and not giving you a real ip
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movielover76 said:
I'd be willing to bet that verizion simply blocking ports and not giving you a real ip
Sent from my ADR6400L using XDA App
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Unless you're roaming, you're always behind NAT and an IP within verizon's network. No one is going to give you a real and static ipv4 address nowadays regardless of the mobile network, there just arent enough left. IPv6 however I do not know if it routes out or not, haven't tested yet and the only place that I have an ipv6 address is my remote server so it doesn't do that much good usability wise to me.
Thank you for the really helpful comment! Now for another silly question: imagine the case where you have your phone connected by USB to your computer. Is it still possible to "ssh" into it using one of the methods described above?
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Thank you for the really helpful comment! Now for another silly question: imagine the case where you have your phone connected by USB to your computer. Is it still possible to "ssh" into it using one of the methods described above?
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if you have the usb cable connected, you could just use adb and type "adb shell"
Otherwise, I don't think so because you aren't registering a network address via usb.
So once you are into your phone with adb, is it possible to run a program like ConnectBot to ssh out from the phone through your computer's adb shell?
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So once you are into your phone with adb, is it possible to run a program like ConnectBot to ssh out from the phone through your computer's adb shell?
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Yes, if you mean ssh into your computer's sshd (ssh server).
ssh client (phone) → ssh server (computer)
or you can go the other way as well if you have an ssh server on your phone.

[DEV] Other ways to enable the hotspot? or tethering w/out market apps? (w/out root)

i know modifying the services.jar is done when rooted but i have been messing with QPST pretty much all day and have found quite a few little tweaks that can be made. anyway, i noticed under multiple tabs there are options for tethering. when i get back, im going to back up all my settings and then change some things to see what i can come up with.
can anyone with and intimate knowledge of QPST and our phones chime in here? is there anyway at least the wired tethering can be modified w/ QPST to be unlocked? just a thought because the market apps have to do something not root related.
I don't know about actual tethering (which gives your PC an IP address), but I've seen a lot of posts on XDA and other forums on how to browse the web using a proxy setup. I've been doing this for the last few days that I've owned the phone.
In essence, it involves:
1. Running a proxy server app on your phone. I use JADS internet sharer, in SOCKS mode. Proxoid is another HTTP proxy server
2. Connecting phone to the computer using USB
3. Putting the phone in HTC Sync mode (I couldn't get adb to work in charge only mode)
4. Doing adb port forwarding on your computer: adb forward tcp:12345 tcp:1080
5. Configuring firefox to use the SOCKS v5 proxy localhost:12345 (or HTTP/HTTPS proxy if you run proxoid)
6. Configuring the network.proxy.socks_remote_dns custom property value to "true" in firefox's advanced configuration (type about:config in the address bar, and type "dns" in the filter textbox)
After this, I can browse the internet all I want. And that's really all I need at this time. I'd like to have the computer route all internet through this proxy server, but I'm going to look into it later.
I suspect the market apps are doing something VERY similar. They all have a client component you have to install on your PC, maybe the client is a "dummy" network interface that routes all traffic through a similar port forwarding setup.
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I don't know about actual tethering (which gives your PC an IP address), but I've seen a lot of posts on XDA and other forums on how to browse the web using a proxy setup. I've been doing this for the last few days that I've owned the phone.
In essence, it involves:
1. Running a proxy server app on your phone. I use JADS internet sharer, in SOCKS mode. Proxoid is another HTTP proxy server
2. Connecting phone to the computer using USB
3. Putting the phone in HTC Sync mode (I couldn't get adb to work in charge only mode)
4. Doing adb port forwarding on your computer: adb forward tcp:12345 tcp:1080
5. Configuring firefox to use the SOCKS v5 proxy localhost:12345 (or HTTP/HTTPS proxy if you run proxoid)
6. Configuring the network.proxy.socks_remote_dns custom property value to "true" in firefox's advanced configuration (type about:config in the address bar, and type "dns" in the filter textbox)
After this, I can browse the internet all I want. And that's really all I need at this time. I'd like to have the computer route all internet through this proxy server, but I'm going to look into it later.
I suspect the market apps are doing something VERY similar. They all have a client component you have to install on your PC, maybe the client is a "dummy" network interface that routes all traffic through a similar port forwarding setup.
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does easytether have a pc client? never tried it so i really dont know but i think your right because in the free version of easytether its web ports only and the paid version, all ports are working (gaming, messaging, etc....).
I've tried the Easytether paid version and it works great.
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I've tried the Easytether paid version and it works great.
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i've used this before.. good stuff
ydoucare said:
I've tried the Easytether paid version and it works great.
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never said it didnt work. that's not the point of this thread.
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I've tried the Easytether paid version and it works great.
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Over wifi? Also, will this work for computers that can only join a secure network? (not adhoc) [if wifi is avail]
I only need to tether when on a job and there network is down or something and I may need to get on my laptop for a brief amount of time would this easytether work for me.
this should be in Q&A or general. you are not developing anything with your op so it does not belong here please pm a mod to move
Or merge with thread WIP DEV hotspot unlock?
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[Q] How to bypass internet content filter?

Ok, my workplace has a wireless network with an internet content filter called "optenet". I know the wireless network's SSID and Password. When I open my stock browser I can't access any web pages what-so-ever but I have found that by using the Opera Mini Browser that I can access all webpages. But no other internet apps will work (XDA app, YouTube app, etc.)
My question is... Is there some method of allowing my phone to completely bypass this filter? Whether I'm on the stock browser, youtube app, etc.?
Anyone...?
Sent from my SGH-T959 (Samsung Vibrant)
I would think that since your stock browser is running off the APN (carrier) that if you set up a new APN called "workAPN" or something like that and instead of putting in your carrier's proxy and server settings, you put in the settings of your workplace it should work. Get your wifi's ip address and see if you can pull the settings from there or buy the IT guy lunch and see if he'll tell ya.
Opera most like runs from a different mobile server to route you to the mobile pages and their links. The stock browser runs through your mobile network/wifi with those proxy/server settings.
I might be way off but sounds good to me. If it doesn't work, you can always just delete the workAPN you created. Might want to check into setting up a VPN too. Not sure how those work.
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I would think that since your stock browser is running off the APN (carrier) that if you set up a new APN called "workAPN" or something like that and instead of putting in your carrier's proxy and server settings, you put in the settings of your workplace it should work. Get your wifi's ip address and see if you can pull the settings from there or buy the IT guy lunch and see if he'll tell ya.
Opera most like runs from a different mobile server to route you to the mobile pages and their links. The stock browser runs through your mobile network/wifi with those proxy/server settings.
I might be way off but sounds good to me. If it doesn't work, you can always just delete the workAPN you created. Might want to check into setting up a VPN too. Not sure how those work.
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Haha, if it were only as easy as to buy the IT guy a sandwich. Anyways I'm still not sure I completely understand. How would I go by getting my workplace's WiFi settings from its IP address...
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@Woodrube Also, how's that battery saving guide coming along?
Pretty sure if you put the IP address in your browser bar and hit enter, it will go to the router settings and you should be able to pull it off there. That is what I did awhile ago when I bought a wifi from a garage sale. Since you are on corporate, might be a little tougher b/c of security and such but I be it could be done. Check out this for a rough idea to get into the settings page.
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080110154359AAt2Uit
Guide is coming along. Was sidetracked this weekend with family stuff. Haven't forgot about you though. I'll hit you up soon with some MIUI/CM7 questions.
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Ok, my workplace has a wireless network with an internet content filter called "optenet". I know the wireless network's SSID and Password. When I open my stock browser I can't access any web pages what-so-ever but I have found that by using the Opera Mini Browser that I can access all webpages. But no other internet apps will work (XDA app, YouTube app, etc.)
My question is... Is there some method of allowing my phone to completely bypass this filter? Whether I'm on the stock browser, youtube app, etc.?
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I have some similar experience, my brother installed a web filter on my computer when I was young, and I resetted my computer in order to delete the web filter. It's really complicated.
Similar problem here.
At school the wifi is good I know password it let's us on normally used websites but not on things like xda. All proxies are blocked as well. I'm going To do a bit more searching right after this research paper is done. I'll let you know if i find anything at all.
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SSHTunnel
You guys can always run SSHTunnel on your phones and a sshd on a computer at home to tunnel through any content filtering system. You can find it Here
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You guys can always run SSHTunnel on your phones and a sshd on a computer at home to tunnel through any content filtering system. You can find it at market.android.com/details?id=org.sshtunnel&hl=en
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Thanks for the app, i'll try to figure out how to use it and then report back.
On another note, does anyone know how to change the Android Market language? for some reason, its in Russian...
edit: wtf i found it its at the bottom, but everytime i refresh, it changes to a different language haha
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I'm confused, what do i input for the host box? P.S. i do not have a data connection, so I use Wifi and only wifi at school.
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You guys can always run SSHTunnel on your phones and a sshd on a computer at home to tunnel through any content filtering system. You can find it at market.android.com/details?id=org.sshtunnel&hl=en
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I'm going to give it a shot as well...
Sent from my SGH-T959 (Samsung Vibrant)
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Thanks for the app, i'll try to figure out how to use it and then report back.
On another note, does anyone know how to change the Android Market language? for some reason, its in Russian...
edit: wtf i found it its at the bottom, but everytime i refresh, it changes to a different language haha
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I'm confused, what do i input for the host box? P.S. i do not have a data connection, so I use Wifi and only wifi at school.
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You need to have another computer running a SSH server and this program connect to the SSH Server, and routes all traffic on your phone through the tunnel. Here is a primer on SSH Tunneling "howtogeek.com/wiki/How_to_Use_SSH_Tunneling" and how it works.
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You need to have another computer running a SSH server and this program connect to the SSH Server, and routes all traffic on your phone through the tunnel. Here is a primer on SSH Tunneling howtogeek.com/wiki/How_to_Use_SSH_Tunneling and how it works.
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The link should be a lot more clear now. If you don't have a computer running at home 24/7 you can also get a free shell that allows you to run background process' and tunnel through that. And to look for free shells you can take a look at "shells.red-pill.eu"
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Try this or this

[Q] reverse tether? is it possible?

I'm basically on a per-MB data plan, and my Fascinate's wifi receiver is horrible, even compared to my iPod Touch 4.
Right now I am getting wifi through a high-gain directional usb adapter. I can share the connection to my iPod through an AdHoc network, and Firestarter's internet sharing feature [on Ubuntu].
But since the Fascinate doesn't recognize AdHoc, I cannot find a way to reverse tether my phone, that is, use my Laptop's connection on my phone.
Is it possible?
I tried making a Hotspot with my fascinate, connecting to it with my laptop, so my laptop was something [I forget the exact numbers] like 10.42.43.114, and my phone was 10.42.43.120. I tried Proxy Droid, telling it to use 10.42.43.120 SOCKS5 proxy (I used ssh localhost -D1111 on my laptop for socks5 proxy), and tried loading a page. I got nothing. Then I tried setting up a SQUID http proxy, and this time I got a "Squid access denied" message, so it was loading from my laptop.
but I tried this again later, and could not even get squid to load anything after that.
Is there a way to do this easily?
Maybe you can try couple possible solutions from here?
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Maybe you can try couple possible solutions from here?
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I can't get the connections bridged in linux. I tried following some steps someone posted somewhere, but it gave me an error, saying my wifi [wlan1] couldn't be added to the bridge [br0]
You can try this: http://www.maryfi.com/
Saw it on lifehacker
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You can try this: http://www.maryfi.com/
Saw it on lifehacker
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Looks fine.. except I can't be rebooting into Windows 7 all the time..
I have Ubuntu, as I stated in my original post
There is a new app called ReverseTether that allows you to do just that and it doesn't require any additional software or tech savviness, and it's very straight forward and simple to use.
Check this out:
Benn awhile since I used bridge utils but I seem to recall similar errors when I had an IP assigned to all the interfaces. I had to have the two interfaces without ips and assign the ip to br0 instead. If I remember correctly.

Help Rooting Azpen A727

Should be easy as others have found this:
https://zepinventory.wordpress.com/2014/03/31/how-to-root-azpen-a727-tablet/
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Must download the SDK for ADB drivers. No other generic ADB drivers worked. I tried a ton.
You can boot into stock Recovery by holding Volume+ when booting.
Google Root Genius. Worked like a charm on an AzpenA727 tablet. Had to try a couple of times but it was the simplest, quickest way to root. After rooting you'll have to go to the play store and get Root Checker and SU. To increase battery life get SetCPU which allows you to set CPU policy so that when the screen is off the cpu runs at a couple of hundred MHz, plus you can slow down the processor while it's in use also. Experiment to find the optimal settings between performance and battery life. You can also overclock the cpu but this may lockup the tablet. There are youtube videos explaining how to reset a locked up Android tablet.
I figured it out. I downloaded the SDK and used its drivers. Those were the only drivers that worked. None of my million ADB drivers worked in Android. So that did work. I actually manually pushed all the su files from adb shell. Just needed the missing link.
So follow the directions specifically.
Also, I'm rather impressed with the stock zippiness and battery life.
Microcenter is giving these away for $20. Worth every penny. I already have a Nexus 7 2013 and a HiSense Sero Pro. Couldn't pass up.
After I rooted. I installed Xposed and Gravity box. The screen sucks but I found lighter colors are better because the horrible viewing angles distort the darker colors. Changed the status/nav bar to white and its Much better.
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Thanks for the information folks. I just got one a few days ago from Microcenter as well. I was unhappy to find I could not set the External SD as the default download location for applications. Nor can I move apps to the external SD. I called customer service and was told the device was not able to do that because of how the developer set it up. Upon hear that I figured someone here if not a few would know how to do that. I'd really appreciate the information. Thanks
is there 4.4 for this tablet or any way to make it look like its 4.4
No 4.4 upgrade, but there's an app to make it look like it.
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is there 4.4 for this tablet or any way to make it look like its 4.4
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There's no 4.4 upgrade for it. If you install the Xposed framework and Gravity Box, there is an Android 4.4 KitKat app in the Play Store that claims to make it look like 4.4. I haven't tried it yet, and can't say how well it does.
The Xposed installer is here: http://dl.xposed.info/latest.apk
There's a thread on XDA Developers discussing a Gravity Box version for Jellybean here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/xposed/modules/app-gravitybox-v2-9-1-tweak-box-android-t2316070
There are a boatload of Xposed addons in the Play store.
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Lexx Diamond said:
Thanks for the information folks. I just got one a few days ago from Microcenter as well. I was unhappy to find I could not set the External SD as the default download location for applications. Nor can I move apps to the external SD. I called customer service and was told the device was not able to do that because of how the developer set it up. Upon hear that I figured someone here if not a few would know how to do that. I'd really appreciate the information. Thanks
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Yeah, limited System Memory on this device is the biggest PITA.
There's an app on the Play Store called FolderMount that looks like it might be able to address the problem. (At a guess, it's creating symlinks pointing to the external card.) A search for FolderMount reveals several similar apps.
I have FolderMount downloaded, but haven't played with it yet. I want to make sure I understand the implications before I fiddle.
Curious to see how you make out with the folder mount bit. I just picked one of these up from Microcenter with coupon to get it for $20 and was wondering the same thing... but I'd rather not be the guinea pig
P.S. Used method in OP link to root no problem (Kingo method)
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There's no 4.4 upgrade for it. If you install the Xposed framework and Gravity Box, there is an Android 4.4 KitKat app in the Play Store that claims to make it look like 4.4. I haven't tried it yet, and can't say how well it does.
The Xposed installer is here: http://dl.xposed.info/latest.apk
There's a thread on XDA Developers discussing a Gravity Box version for Jellybean here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/xposed/modules/app-gravitybox-v2-9-1-tweak-box-android-t2316070
There are a boatload of Xposed addons in the Play store.
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Yeah, limited System Memory on this device is the biggest PITA.
There's an app on the Play Store called FolderMount that looks like it might be able to address the problem. (At a guess, it's creating symlinks pointing to the external card.) A search for FolderMount reveals several similar apps.
I have FolderMount downloaded, but haven't played with it yet. I want to make sure I understand the implications before I fiddle.
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Curious to see how you make out with the folder mount bit. I just picked one of these up from Microcenter with coupon to get it for $20 and was wondering the same thing... but I'd rather not be the guinea pig
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Where did you get yours? In my case, they opened locations in Brooklyn and Queens in NYC, and the Brooklyn store was a convenient subway trip for me.
If FolderMount is creating symlinks (and it's hard to imagine what else it could be doing), it shouldn't be too dangerous. You can get a system mightily confused with symlinks, but what you want to do here is mount a directory on /mnt/extsd to an appropriate location in the root file system.
I have to look around some more, as FolderMount seems to be sparsely documented. I want to make sure I understand what it's doing.
The other thing I don't know yet is external keyboard support. The device doesn't have Bluetooth, so a USB keyboard would be required. The FAQ says it can't use one, but I don't know it that's a limitation of the factory install that can be addressed by rooting, or if it's a hardware issue and USB host mode simply isn't supported, (Like no Bluetoioth, that may be a "design to cost" move.)
The device is useful enough as is that I'll live if I can't use a keyboard with it, but it would be nice. If nothing else, it's a good way to learn about Android in preparation for the sort of device I plan to get down the road.
Meanwhile, I've been having fun, and it's certainly worth what I paid for it.
Agree, totally worth the $20 even if I use it for nothing else than letting the kids watch netflix and play angry birds.
Got mine at the Long Island Microcenter.
I also found this thread which talks about swapping the mount points of sdcard and extsd but I dunno if I'm ready to take that step
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2263436
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Where did you get yours? In my case, they opened locations in Brooklyn and Queens in NYC, and the Brooklyn store was a convenient subway trip for me.
If FolderMount is creating symlinks (and it's hard to imagine what else it could be doing), it shouldn't be too dangerous. You can get a system mightily confused with symlinks, but what you want to do here is mount a directory on /mnt/extsd to an appropriate location in the root file system.
I have to look around some more, as FolderMount seems to be sparsely documented. I want to make sure I understand what it's doing.
The other thing I don't know yet is external keyboard support. The device doesn't have Bluetooth, so a USB keyboard would be required. The FAQ says it can't use one, but I don't know it that's a limitation of the factory install that can be addressed by rooting, or if it's a hardware issue and USB host mode simply isn't supported, (Like no Bluetoioth, that may be a "design to cost" move.)
The device is useful enough as is that I'll live if I can't use a keyboard with it, but it would be nice. If nothing else, it's a good way to learn about Android in preparation for the sort of device I plan to get down the road.
Meanwhile, I've been having fun, and it's certainly worth what I paid for it.
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Swapping mount points
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Agree, totally worth the $20 even if I use it for nothing else than letting the kids watch netflix and play angry birds.
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My use case is eBook viewer. I have a lot of eBooks. I had been reading them on a Palm TX (yes, I still use a Palm OS PDA), but a bigger screen and more storage capacity is nice. I use the Android version of FBReader, an open source program by a Russian developer. It handles both Mobi (Amazon Kindle) and ePub (B&N Nook, Kobo Reader) formats, and I have books in both forms. (It doesn't handle DRM, but I don't get DRM protected books.)
I use a beta Android port of VLC for video, with video files stored on the external card.
Got mine at the Long Island Microcenter.
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Didn't know they'd open one there. Where is it on LI?
I also found this thread which talks about swapping the mount points of sdcard and extsd but I dunno if I'm ready to take that step
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2263436
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Thanks for the pointer. I'll go and look.
I'm an old *nix admin, who started on AT&T System V Unix long before Linux existed, so I grasp the concepts, and I've done stuff like that on larger machines. I just proceed very carefully. I prefer not to shoot myself in both feet...
This one, it's been there for years: http://www.microcenter.com/site/stores/westbury.aspx
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Didn't know they'd open one there. Where is it on LI?
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I might try the mount point thing tomorrow. In theory it shouldn't break too much since it wouldn't be touching the system partition.
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Didn't know they'd open one there. Where is it on LI?
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Merrick Ave. in Westbury. It's been there for at least 10 years.
Got my tablet yesterday as well, but can't seem to get either my Linux box or my Windows laptop to recognize it in ADB.
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I might try the mount point thing tomorrow. In theory it shouldn't break too much since it wouldn't be touching the system partition.
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The question is what you'll gain.
The scarce resource is System Memory. There's 787MB of it, and 1GB seen as SDcard. That hack lets you vastly expand the area seen as SDcard, but that's not the problem.
With my current set of apps loaded, and everything that can live on the SDcard moved there, the A727 thinks I have 118MB of System Memory free, and 728MB of the SDcard. I need more System Memory, but I don't believe that hack will provide it.
I'm still figuring out how the tablet divides up resources. I already had a case where there was a Google+ app upgrade, but it wouldn't install without a Google Play Services upgrade, and that wouldn't install because there was insufficient system memory. (How much system memory it wanted wasn't mentioned.) The fix was to uninstall Chrome (which can't be on the card.) That freed sufficient system memory to let me install the Google Play Services and the Google+ updates. After that, I could re-install Chrome. (I use Firefox as my usual browser, so could live without Chrome if need be, and Firefox can be moved to the card.)
If I can implement a hack that increases System Memory, I'll be a happy camper.
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Merrick Ave. in Westbury. It's been there for at least 10 years.
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My S.O. used to live in Bellmore, but I haven't had cause to be on LI for years. I missed MicroCenter opening there.
Got my tablet yesterday as well, but can't seem to get either my Linux box or my Windows laptop to recognize it in ADB.
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Which flavor of Windows? The rooting method I used apparently can't be done from Linux.
I grabbed the 32bit version of the Android SDK, but couldn't get Windows to recognize the tablet from XP. It claimed it couldn't find the software to install the drivers, even though they were where I pointed. I grabbed the 64 bit version of the SDK and tried again from the SO's Win7 laptop, and it worked. From there, I could use Kingo Root to root the device.
Rooted, now can't connect to Internet
Went yesterday the new Microcenter in Flushing (actually Kew Garden HIlls) and Got the A727.
It worked fine with the store's wifi. Rooted it this morning now can't connect to internet at all through my home wifi. Other devices connect fine and I get a good private IP address on the A727, but I get the message " web page not available" in the browser and no other app can connect to the internet .
I tried everything including resetting, unrooting, restarting, turning off developer, nothing works.
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You're probably connecting to your network but not authenticating.
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Went yesterday the new Microcenter in Flushing (actually Kew Garden HIlls) and Got the A727.
It worked fine with the store's wifi. Rooted it this morning now can't connect to internet at all through my home wifi. Other devices connect fine and I get a good private IP address on the A727, but I get the message " web page not available" in the browser and no other app can connect to the internet .
I tried everything including resetting, unrooting, restarting, turning off developer, nothing works.
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I don't think rooting has anything to do with it. My A727 connected fine with my home network before and after rooting. In your case, it worked fine at the store because they run an open network with no authentication required.
What router do you have, and what security do you use? In my case, it's a Belkin router, and I use WPA2 encryption.
If I had to make a guess, your A727 is connecting to your network, but your network wants you to authenticate with a password, and you aren't seeing it.
Tap Settings, and select Wifi. If Wifi is off, you'll be prompted to turn it on. When Wifi is on, the A727 will scan for networks and display those it sees in range. Do you see your network SSID? Tap on it. You ought to be able to get to a place where you can provide your network password and properly authenticate.
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I don't think rooting has anything to do with it. My A727 connected fine with my home network before and after rooting. In your case, it worked fine at the store because they run an open network with no authentication required.
What router do you have, and what security do you use? In my case, it's a Belkin router, and I use WPA2 encryption.
If I had to make a guess, your A727 is connecting to your network, but your network wants you to authenticate with a password, and you aren't seeing it.
Tap Settings, and select Wifi. If Wifi is off, you'll be prompted to turn it on. When Wifi is on, the A727 will scan for networks and display those it sees in range. Do you see your network SSID? Tap on it. You ought to be able to get to a place where you can provide your network password and properly authenticate.
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I use connectify on Windows 8.1 as the internet source.
I don't think it's an authentication issue. When I deliberately enter a wrong password authentication takes forever and connectify says no cliet connected. when I put the correct password it connects almost emmidietly and says 1 client connected, but still not able to load web pages or have any other app connect to the internet.
Try using an actual wireless router
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I use connectify on Windows 8.1 as the internet source.
I don't think it's an authentication issue. When I deliberately enter a wrong password authentication takes forever and connectify says no cliet connected. when I put the correct password it connects almost emmidietly and says 1 client connected, but still not able to load web pages or have any other app connect to the internet.
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Hmmm. So your Win 8.1 box connects directly to your ISP feed, and you use Connectify to create a wifi hotspot and the Windows box as a wireless router?
According to Techend, at http://techzend.com/create-ad-hoc-wifi-hotspot-windows-81/ "I have read that many Android phones do not support ad-hoc connections, created by tools like connectify.", and you might be running into one of those cases. My wifi router isn't creating an ad hoc network, and I had no problems connecting to it with the A727 before or after routing.
You may need to get an honest-to-God external wireless router instead of trying to get your Windows machine to serve the purpose. (I'd recommend that in any case - your machine should be behind your router, not serving as your router.)
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Hmmm. So your Win 8.1 box connects directly to your ISP feed, and you use Connectify to create a wifi hotspot and the Windows box as a wireless router?
According to Techend, at http://techzend.com/create-ad-hoc-wifi-hotspot-windows-81/ "I have read that many Android phones do not support ad-hoc connections, created by tools like connectify.", and you might be running into one of those cases. My wifi router isn't creating an ad hoc network, and I had no problems connecting to it with the A727 before or after routing.
You may need to get an honest-to-God external wireless router instead of trying to get your Windows machine to serve the purpose. (I'd recommend that in any case - your machine should be behind your router, not serving as your router.)
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Yes, my 8.1 is connected to a cable modem via Ethernet. I don't need a router because I don't connect other devices that often.
Connectify can create an encrypted access point, so that's not the issue. my Galaxy note 2 can connect withouth a problem to it, but not the ad-hoc.
Like I said, you may need a real router
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Yes, my 8.1 is connected to a cable modem via Ethernet. I don't need a router because I don't connect other devices that often
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I have multiple devices connecting here: my desktop, my SO's laptop, a netbook, an ancient notebook on occasion, my PDA, the A727 tablet, and one or two other things once in a great while. The desktop, notebook, and netbook connect via CAT5 cable to ethernet ports on the router, and the laptop and tablet connect via wifi.
But I'd want the router even if I just had one device. As a matter of security if for no other reason, I want my interface to my cable provider to be separate from the machines that connect through the interface.
While it's all very well Win8.1 machines can b used that way, I wouldn't want to. (And I multi-boot Linux, too, which leaves solutions like Connectify out even if I were inclined to use them.)
Connectify can create an encrypted access point, so that's not the issue. my Galaxy note 2 can connect without a problem to it, but not the ad-hoc.
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Which is why I think you may need to use an actual router if you want to connect with the A727. Routers are cheap. You can get a serviceable one for about the price of a Connectify Hotspot license. My Belkin N150 was under $40.
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Yes, my 8.1 is connected to a cable modem via Ethernet. I don't need a router because I don't connect other devices that often
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I have multiple devices connecting here: my desktop, my SO's laptop, a netbook, an ancient notebook on occasion, my PDA, the A727 tablet, and one or two other things once in a great while. The desktop, notebook, and netbook connect via CAT5 cable to ethernet ports on the router, and the laptop and tablet connect via wifi.
But I'd want the router even if I just had one device. As a matter of security if for no other reason, I want my interface to my cable provider to be separate from the machines that connect through the interface.
While it's all very well Win8.1 machines can be used that way, I wouldn't want to. (And I multi-boot Linux, too, which leaves solutions like Connectify out even if I were inclined to use them.)
Connectify can create an encrypted access point, so that's not the issue. my Galaxy note 2 can connect without a problem to it, but not the ad-hoc.
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Which is why I think you may need to use an actual router if you want to connect with the A727. Routers are cheap. You can get a serviceable one for about the price of a Connectify Hotspot license. My Belkin N150 was under $40.
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I have multiple devices connecting here: my desktop, my SO's laptop, a netbook, an ancient notebook on occasion, my PDA, the A727 tablet, and one or two other things once in a great while. The desktop, notebook, and netbook connect via CAT5 cable to ethernet ports on the router, and the laptop and tablet connect via wifi.
But I'd want the router even if I just had one device. As a matter of security if for no other reason, I want my interface to my cable provider to be separate from the machines that connect through the interface.
While it's all very well Win8.1 machines can b used that way, I wouldn't want to. (And I multi-boot Linux, too, which leaves solutions like Connectify out even if I were inclined to use them.)
Which is why I think you may need to use an actual router if you want to connect with the A727. Routers are cheap. You can get a serviceable one for about the price of a Connectify Hotspot license. My Belkin N150 was under $40.
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I have multiple devices connecting here: my desktop, my SO's laptop, a netbook, an ancient notebook on occasion, my PDA, the A727 tablet, and one or two other things once in a great while. The desktop, notebook, and netbook connect via CAT5 cable to ethernet ports on the router, and the laptop and tablet connect via wifi.
But I'd want the router even if I just had one device. As a matter of security if for no other reason, I want my interface to my cable provider to be separate from the machines that connect through the interface.
While it's all very well Win8.1 machines can be used that way, I wouldn't want to. (And I multi-boot Linux, too, which leaves solutions like Connectify out even if I were inclined to use them.)
Which is why I think you may need to use an actual router if you want to connect with the A727. Routers are cheap. You can get a serviceable one for about the price of a Connectify Hotspot license. My Belkin N150 was under $40.
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Thanks, but nevertheless I'd like a solution to this issue. I will try with a regular hotspot to see if that makes a difference.

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