Hi all! I've been checking out this forum for quite some time now, and been following a ROM thread quite closely for the past week or so, so thought it was about time I got an account! Currently got a Galaxy S2, which I love.
I'm by no means a developer, but I'm also not a complete n00b and know my fair share about computers. Done a bit of programming on and off for a few years, build my own PC's etc. I previously had a HTC Hero, and I rooted that and have flashed several ROM's and Kernels over the past 2 years. I would like to learn a lot more though. There are a lot of things I don't understand.
I would like to know more about how things work concerning custom ROM's. What is it Kernels do exactly? What is AOKP? (Found some information on Google, but nothing that made a lot of sense). Modems are another thing I'd like to know more about.
I know a lot of the questions I have have probably been asked several times on the forum already, so I'm not going to ask for direct answers, but if anyone has any links to helpful websites that could help me on my way to learning more about the Android system and what you developers do I would greatly appreciate it.
Anyway, nice to meet you all, and I look forward to talking with some of you and contributing where I can.
Thanks,
Carl
Welcome to the forum!
First, read all the FAQs out there, recovery guides, how-to's... Everything before flashing
The Kernel (in the flashing process, it's the zImage, just like in Linux) is basically a bridge between the software and the hardware. It's basically what connects the NAND (the phone's HDD) with the hardware components like WiFi, Antenna, etc, and provides info, stats, commands and etc about them.
AOKP stands for Android Open KANG Project, and is kind of a Kang port.
Modems (in a flashing package, it's the PHONE file) is pretty much what "controls" the antenna section of the phone, which is WiFi, 3G/H/H+, call connection, etc. There are many modems out there, and I believe that the best Modem for the UK in Android 2.3.x is KL1, and for 4.0.x, XXLPQ.
If you would like more help, you can PM me!
Here are a few links for ya :
[REF] Guide to the Galaxy S II and Android (04/10/11) <- Everything you need to know
Original Development vs Development, Your Picture-Based Guide <- My personal favourite
[GUIDE] Fix an unflashable or soft bricked GSII <- A guide I made
carlnrtn said:
I'm also not a complete n00b and know my fair share about computers.
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What is it Kernels do exactly? What is AOKP? (Found some information on Google, but nothing that made a lot of sense). Modems are another thing I'd like to know more about.
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Yeah, loads.
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I know a lot of the questions I have have probably been asked several times on the forum already
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Correct, so, good luck finding the answers.
FORUM RULES
1. Search before posting.
I pity anyone who spoon feeds you the answers.
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Yeah, loads.
Correct, so, good luck finding the answers.
FORUM RULES
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I guess I'm just in a good mood
Welcome and enjoy the forum
Welcome to the forums. I am PoorCollegeGuy and I write things on the XDA Portal (aka www.xda-developers.com).
Have a good time while you're here and remember that before you get angry at anyone saying mean things to you, they're probably fat...and ugly...and single
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Have a good time while you're here and remember that before you get angry at anyone saying mean things to you, they're probably fat...and ugly...and single
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Best post for a while (and quite probably true), thanks for making me smile
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Okay. I posted my first ever question/request for advice the other day and, despite 79 views, I have had no response. Perhaps it was too dull for those who are more accomplished with all things Android and everybody assumed that somebody else would answer.
Perhaps within the morass of information on these forums the answers are already out there. Maybe, but who knows. In other forums people tend to at least say - look there for answers - and post a link to another thread. But, it has been Christmas and I guess we are all pretty busy this time of year - Merry Christmas to all by the way
So, I thought I would re-shape my question/needs here.
Could anybody give me, or at least point me in the direction of, a glossary of terms type of thing?
I need to know things like what does 'radio' mean? How does it relate to the 'flashing' process' , And any other terms which people take for granted as being blindingly obvious, but which may not be to those of us very inexperienced. This forum can be quite daunting, but still, enquiring minds wanna know
Any help, again, appreciated.
cargob69 said:
Okay. I posted my first ever question/request for advice the other day and, despite 79 views, I have had no response. Perhaps it was too dull for those who are more accomplished with all things Android and everybody assumed that somebody else would answer.
Perhaps within the morass of information on these forums the answers are already out there. Maybe, but who knows. In other forums people tend to at least say - look there for answers - and post a link to another thread. But, it has been Christmas and I guess we are all pretty busy this time of year - Merry Christmas to all by the way
So, I thought I would re-shape my question/needs here.
Could anybody give me, or at least point me in the direction of, a glossary of terms type of thing?
I need to know things like what does 'radio' mean? How does it relate to the 'flashing' process' , And any other terms which people take for granted as being blindingly obvious, but which may not be to those of us very inexperienced. This forum can be quite daunting, but still, enquiring minds wanna know
Any help, again, appreciated.
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I would've loved to answer but perhaps you need to be more specific on what you want to be answered
you said you wanted to have 2.3.5 on ur DHD,but that doesn't tell anyone what you are asking for,if you are asking us to find a ROM for you,or how to flash a recovery first,or how to flash the ROM !
You should have to provide us more specific data, phone, model, rooted or stock, etc. It is normal that why you don't get replies.
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I would've loved to answer but perhaps you need to be more specific on what you want to be answered
you said you wanted to have 2.3.5 on ur DHD,but that doesn't tell anyone what you are asking for,if you are asking us to find a ROM for you,or how to flash a recovery first,or how to flash the ROM !
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HI, and thank you. Also apologies for my woolly question. And this is kind of my problem. When new to this even the questions I want answered are not always asked correctly. I was hoping to find a ROM for my Desire HD which has Sense 3.0. I have Gingerbread on the phone currently with Sense 2.1.
To be completely humble and honest, which I find to be the best way in almost all cases, I must say that I am not even sure what "how to flash a recovery" means, or "how to flash the ROM".
So, as you see, I am really new to this and feeling my way around. I am a quick learner though so I really just need bringing up to speed on a few of the basics and then I am sure I will be able to research my way around.
Anyway, thank you for your kind reply. I wasn't trying to be shirty with my post. I meant what I said - it is Christmas and I am sure people look in over the holidays but it is a busy time for everybody. I hope I have not caused offence.
Can I contact you on your email,i find that more easily accessible!
What's your email id?
Hit thx if I helped you a bit
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cargob69 said:
HI, and thank you. Also apologies for my woolly question. And this is kind of my problem. When new to this even the questions I want answered are not always asked correctly. I was hoping to find a ROM for my Desire HD which has Sense 3.0. I have Gingerbread on the phone currently with Sense 2.1.
To be completely humble and honest, which I find to be the best way in almost all cases, I must say that I am not even sure what "how to flash a recovery" means, or "how to flash the ROM".
So, as you see, I am really new to this and feeling my way around. I am a quick learner though so I really just need bringing up to speed on a few of the basics and then I am sure I will be able to research my way around.
Anyway, thank you for your kind reply. I wasn't trying to be shirty with my post. I meant what I said - it is Christmas and I am sure people look in over the holidays but it is a busy time for everybody. I hope I have not caused offence.
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Please read before you do anything at all. From your posts it is plain you are very new to Modding so it is very important you understand what your doing as it void your warrenty and if done wrong can brick your device. Start with the stickies in the DHD section and read those a couple of times. Then check the Q&A and read there as well.
As mentioned, read the stickies in your section, there should be a lot of information there. In my device's subfora, there are great stickies chocked full of information. If we had the same device, I'd post some links for you. There's also a glossary of sorts stickied in the Thunderbolt section. Not everything in it will apply to your device but it may help with some general terms.
Before I even rooted my device, I read all of the stickies and recommended links. I then read over the Q&A and general subfora just to get a feel for it. What I read didn't make a lot of sense at the time, but later I remembered it and it made more sense. I then rooted my device, then read and read and read before flashing my first rom (CM6 - it was a while back).
It's a process, and the more you read the more you'll understand, until eventually you can start answering some of the questions that go unanswered. Just give it time... and make sure that you know exactly what you're doing - and why - before you jump in to something.
Good luck!
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Hi there Gauravgahlyan , and many thanks. I have dropped you a line via gmail - and you have helped indeed
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Please read before you do anything at all. From your posts it is plain you are very new to Modding so it is very important you understand what your doing as it void your warrenty and if done wrong can brick your device. Start with the stickies in the DHD section and read those a couple of times. Then check the Q&A and read there as well.
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Hi there Zendel.
Apologies for the lateness of this reply. Been a busy day. I wanted to say thanks for the advice and to also fill in a couple of blanks, if I may.
You are quite correct, I am very new to modding and my only fear is buggering it up, as we say in Lancashire lol. However, it has already been rooted by a friend who took me through the process over the phone some months ago.
When I first got the phone it was with Orange and had all that Orange junk and splash screen etc. Hence, my friend talked me through rooting and installing a standard factory ROM. It was a lot to take in and, at the time, I didn't make any notes along the way, which would have helped me now - hindsight is a wonderful thing, as they say.
More recently he pointed me at a link to a RUU (is that right?) so that I could upgrade from Froyo 2.2 to Gingerbread 2.3.3 with Sense 2.1 - so, in a nutshell, void warranty is no longer a concern
I have taken a look at some of the stickies, though I have not studied them intensely at this point. I will spend more time looking however and come back, perhaps, with more questions - or at least more relevant questions I should hope
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As mentioned, read the stickies in your section, there should be a lot of information there. In my device's subfora, there are great stickies chocked full of information. If we had the same device, I'd post some links for you. There's also a glossary of sorts stickied in the Thunderbolt section. Not everything in it will apply to your device but it may help with some general terms.
Before I even rooted my device, I read all of the stickies and recommended links. I then read over the Q&A and general subfora just to get a feel for it. What I read didn't make a lot of sense at the time, but later I remembered it and it made more sense. I then rooted my device, then read and read and read before flashing my first rom (CM6 - it was a while back).
It's a process, and the more you read the more you'll understand, until eventually you can start answering some of the questions that go unanswered. Just give it time... and make sure that you know exactly what you're doing - and why - before you jump in to something.
Good luck!
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Many thanks PlainJane - I shall go there now
I freely admit that I'm a Newbie when it comes to rooting; this post is to ask if anyone can please recommend a good source of reading matter to help me get started rooting my Streak?
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I freely admit that I'm a Newbie when it comes to rooting; this post is to ask if anyone can please recommend a good source of reading matter to help me get started rooting my Streak?
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There are several threads and even a sticky you'd have to be blind or flat lazy to miss to not have seen it with ALL the info you need
Please note the word "Newbie". I have indeed found many threads and pages, all of which dive into the subject as if it's second nature. I don't even know what a "Sticky" IS! I'm an intelligent person, PC literate, perfectly capable of rooting a phone, I'm sure. But I have utterly no experience of doing so. I'm sure there are many people in my position, and I'm simply looking for a user-friendly starting point. Thanks.
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Please note the word "Newbie". I have indeed found many threads and pages, all of which dive into the subject as if it's second nature. I don't even know what a "Sticky" IS! I'm an intelligent person, PC literate, perfectly capable of rooting a phone, I'm sure. But I have utterly no experience of doing so. I'm sure there are many people in my position, and I'm simply looking for a user-friendly starting point. Thanks.
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Hey - I was lost when I first started to flash my first rom. I found a number of different sources which all helped in their own little way. I'll gladly talk you through each step. Have you rooted your phone yet? There is an excellent video on (youtube.com/watch?v=60z9YBv9Ksw) youtube to help you along - visit the unlockr's how to's also (//theunlockr.com/category/howto/android_how_tos/dell-streak-how-tos/)
Many thanks thecelticchimp. I'm gonna check the links you've kindly given and if there's enough there to give me a basic grounding then I'll bite the bullet and do the deed this evening.
read the top 5 or 6 threads
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=698
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Hey - I was lost when I first started to flash my first rom. I found a number of different sources which all helped in their own little way. I'll gladly talk you through each step. Have you rooted your phone yet? There is an excellent video on (youtube.com/watch?v=60z9YBv9Ksw) youtube to help you along - visit the unlockr's how to's also (//theunlockr.com/category/howto/android_how_tos/dell-streak-how-tos/)
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Oh dear, foiled at the first hurdle! My phone's build number is 15609. Theunlockr.com sends me to
http://android.modaco.com/topic/316229-19aug-streak-21-downloads-how-tos-rom-superboot-recovery/
where I can't find any reference to that build number, therefore can't find the necessary Superboot files.
Help? ... !
Your first problem is trying to use Superboot. You don't need to, and it's not recommended to use it in any event. All you need to know is how to use Fastboot properly.
The second problem is that you're trying to do this cold. For a bit of an assist, try looking in the apparently little known Wiki on the site here. There is a flashing guide for the Dell Streak there and one very critical piece of advice on it that is a must read, though duplicated on some of the threads.
I am going to recommend that you spend some time reading up before attempting to flash the Streak, or you will very likely end up with a nice, shiny, and very expensive paperweight.
OK, for the moment I'm going to be content with a factory reset and no root.
I think if one of you experts out there fancies a little project it would be to write exactly what the sarcastic "No spoonfeeding here" signature doesn't want; a "Rooting for beginners" guide.
I'm told I don't need to use Superboot, but I thought Superboot WAS rooting. Truth be told all I wanted to do was to be able to uninstall unwanted pre-loaded software on my Streak, not much more than that.
Despite kind people's encouraging words that rooting is now very straightforward, Strephon's timely warning reminds me that it isn't. I think I'll take the easy way out and wait until someone IS prepared to spoon feed me!
Sticky posts are set up so that they never disappear from page 1 of the forum you are reading. They are also so that critical information, such as how to root the streak without bricking it, is easy to find. Rooting the Streak is quite easy; far easier than other devices. Yet it's still possible to brick it if you do not read up on what you're supposed to be doing.
If you were truly a noob I'd have given you a link. However, you have been with the site a while, and thus you should by now know the rules, especially rule 1: search before you post. Thus, no spoonfeeding for you. Use the search engine and the stickies. That is why we have them.
Duly ticked off! Many thanks for the help and advice, I'll start reading...
Cheers,
Aidan
I have the AT&T model and I want a ICS stock root without all the garbage apps and shenanigans AT&T forces on your phone.
I already looked around in the ROM directory and I did find this thread which seems to match what I'm looking for: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1752232
Is the ROM in this link a pre-rooted ROM?
But I need to be careful to keep my phone rooted as I don't live in America anymore and I don't want my phone to get locked or I cannot receive calls.
I am currently using a stock gingerbread ROM rooted.
I recommend Task's ASOP rom I have been using it for months through many updates and it just keeps getting better.
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I recommend Task's ASOP rom I have been using it for months through many updates and it just keeps getting better.
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Could you post a link? I could not find it.
You wanted a ICS stock? Try this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1650948
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You wanted a ICS stock? Try this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1650948
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Nice thank you.
Also would you happen to have a link that would have instructions and download links to flashing a ROM. Its been a while since I last did this and I don't wanna brick my phone.
This is the closest I could find but I remember there being a better one: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1285894
Why not look in development?????
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Why not look in development?????
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I am and I'm getting a bit confused. If I remember correctly when I last did this all the ROMS i tried were .tar files, now they are all .zip files and when I extract the file I cannot find a .tar in any folders.
T.T
Search for creepyncrawly's guide to flashing. No offense, but you've got a lot to learn, buddy. And uh, I wouldn't post asking questions like "I want this kind of ROM" or "help me learn how to flash again" until you've read a lot, since people around here highly discourage that kind of thing. Just warning you in advance.
Fair enough,
In my defense though I did not ask for explanations in the thread, but links for me to read and figure it out myself : /
EDIT: I tried searching for creepyncrawly's guide and came out empty handed. These forum search functions never work properly, can someone just link me there?
Useful links are here. It includes creepyncrawly's guide, but I've linked that one too, just for you. Good luck!
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Useful links are here. It includes creepyncrawly's guide, but I've linked that one too, just for you. Good luck!
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Thank you very much! Also one more thing if you would be so kind to answer. My phone is already rooted (Gingerbread stock root) so can I skip to the section detailing flashing ROMs?
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Thank you very much! Also one more thing if you would be so kind to answer. My phone is already rooted (Gingerbread stock root) so can I skip to the section detailing flashing ROMs?
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If you're rooted you can skip to installing a custom kernel, yes. Make sure to read the flash counter though, it's important that you know how to do that.
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Sky` said:
Thank you very much! Also one more thing if you would be so kind to answer. My phone is already rooted (Gingerbread stock root) so can I skip to the section detailing flashing ROMs?
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Make sure you have clockwork mod installed, if you did not flash a custom kernel you may not have it. If you don't you may need to flash a custom kernel and then go from there. If you know how to get in recovery try to and see if clockwork mod shows up. If its the default recovery you will need to flash a custom kernel from there you can flash whatever rom you want.
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Fair enough,
In my defense though I did not ask for explanations in the thread, but links for me to read and figure it out myself : /
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This is a self-service forum. Asking people to provide links is just as bad as asking them to do the research for you. There are FAQs and Stickies that cover much of the basics and the search function to fill in the gaps. Even Google searches often return results that end up here. I'm glad you can read for yourself, so start finding things on your own and you'll get/cause a lot less grief in here.
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This is a self-service forum. Asking people to provide links is just as bad as asking them to do the research for you. There are FAQs and Stickies that cover much of the basics and the search function to fill in the gaps. Even Google searches often return results that end up here. I'm glad you can read for yourself, so start finding things on your own and you'll get/cause a lot less grief in here.
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^^^this. Now let me ask u, did he flame him? No. Did he curse? No. He just simply told him the truth and how to help himself in a straight forward manner. These kinds of responses are perfectly fine and should be the norm for anyone looking to get spoon fed. If u can't take the time (I took over a week of reading before I even flashed anything on my phone) to read and search, its not fair to ask someone else to do it for you.
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^^^this. Now let me ask u, did he flame him? No. Did he curse? No. He just simply told him the truth and how to help himself in a straight forward manner. These kinds of responses are perfectly fine and should be the norm for anyone looking to get spoon fed. If u can't take the time (I took over a week of reading before I even flashed anything on my phone) to read and search, its not fair to ask someone else to do it for you.
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Same here bro, even coming from OG Galaxy S (Captivate), i read everything there was on i777 forums (stickies in general and development) before i even tried to flash anything... if only everyone did some reading... I mean I've been running custom roms since September '11, I don't think I've ever asked how to do something so simple, really tho? Which ics rom? Just read the first few pages of each thread that interests you, Itll help you and XDA as A whole. I've yet to brick my phone, I've gone thru numerous roms. Not trying to be a *****, but what you're asking XDA members to do for you is remedial...
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I'm sort of in the same boat, I'm on UnNamed and now with official ICS out I'm looking at development and reading up again and it's getting confusing because I see AJs rom and it seems nice but I don't seem to see (correct me if I'm wrong) Entropy as active on kernel development and UnNamed has sort of been "abandoned" other than Ryudes project. I guess what a lot of people are hoping for is an "UnNamed" style ICS with a very stable stock based kernel, all stock flame aside, that's 100% daily driver capable. I like 2.3.4, does everything I need my phone to do daily, I rely heavily on gps and bluetooth for driving which are some of the issues I read about with the ported kernels, as well as various mic swap stuff which is intimidating to be completely honest. Does anyone know if there is work on something stock based with a DD style kernel? I know this is fairly new ground so I'm not wanting to come off as ungrateful for the work that is going on and that has been done.
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I respect everyone's answers and tolerance. Please keep in mind though while this may be seem trivial to the advanced users this can be very confusing/overwhelming for noobs. I am grateful for the guidance provided thus far and can say I am making a solid effort to figure this out on my own.
I have successfully flashed the ICS ROM/Kernel provided by creepy with the help of the forum members. I did make a few mistakes though, I did not wipe the Dalvik cache or data, and did not bother performing a factory reset before hand. Either way, the phone is running fine aside from my wallpaper image not panning through desktop windows, apparently this has been discussed before; but searching the forums, google, and few pages of threads has been fruitless.
Sky` said:
I respect everyone's answers and tolerance. Please keep in mind though while this may be seem trivial to the advanced users this can be very confusing/overwhelming for noobs. I am grateful for the guidance provided thus far and can say I am making a solid effort to figure this out on my own.
I have successfully flashed the ICS ROM/Kernel provided by creepy with the help of the forum members. I did make a few mistakes though, I did not wipe the Dalvik cache or data, and did not bother performing a factory reset before hand. Either way, the phone is running fine aside from my wallpaper image not panning through desktop windows, apparently this has been discussed before; but searching the forums, google, and few pages of threads has been fruitless.
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Yes, I agree that preparing to flash something on your phone when you start with no knowledge can be confusing, and overwhelming for some. There are clearly differences in how the mind works from one person to another. Some pick up technical issues fairly quickly, others (my wife, who is a musician with creative temprament, for instance) have difficulty even retaining the technical information they have already learned.
However, you flashed UCLE5 stock plus root from the OP of my thread in the development forum without first doing a wipe data/factory reset. So did you read through the text of the OP of that thread and fail to understand what was written there, or did you just not read it? If you are the type of person that doesn't grasp technical issues easily or at all, then you should not be messing with your phone. This is a ~$500.00 device which you could easily destroy if you do the wrong thing.
Or... you should take as long as you need to fully understand what you are doing, even if it takes weeks or months before you flash anything. Let go of instant gratification for once.
I sure hope you followed the OP of the thread and flashed a custom kernel. If you haven't, then whatever you do, Do Not Do A Wipe Data/Factory Reset while the UCLE5 kernel is still installed.
Further, you have started several different threads and posted in others, all about the same issue, which is very close to spamming the forums. Please make yourself aware of the rules of this place, and conform to them.
As far as the wallpaper issue, I find it hard to believe that you could search and find absolutely nothing on this. All the ICS leaks contain this bug, or feature. The new SGS III also has the exact same issue. You can set a portrait wallpaper but not a scrolling one. There are a multitude of wallpaper programs on the Google Play Store that will fix the issue. You can also install another launcher, such as Apex, to fix the issue.
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^^^this. Now let me ask u, did he flame him? No. Did he curse? No. He just simply told him the truth and how to help himself in a straight forward manner. These kinds of responses are perfectly fine and should be the norm for anyone looking to get spoon fed. If u can't take the time (I took over a week of reading before I even flashed anything on my phone) to read and search, its not fair to ask someone else to do it for you.
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Yeah, but someone will STILL get offended. lol
And I'm going to +1 to all who suggested Task650's AOKP Rom's. I've been running them for quite a while and they're one of the best around.
I am fairly new to rooting so far I have explored app removal, have created full back ups, performed a restore, have flashed a few zips including the new 4.2 camera. Now I want to move on particularly with a view to increasing speed/smoothness etc for which I know that I will need to flash a ROM and or kernel. It is not the how that bothers me so much - lots of good advice here I have TWRP installed, have ODIN both desktop and mobile ODIN, but WHICH to try. I am currently on JB 4.1.2 stock rooted with an i9300. Through different apps I can find lots of compatible ROMS listed but almost no information about which ones are considered good and why. Clearly I want to start with one that is better, or at least as good as, my current stock but none of the listed ROMS say anything much about their features. There is a little sparse information about Kernels but not much for a person starting out to flash their first ROM. I have searched on here for any kind of comparison table, but if there is one I am either searching in the wrong forums or not wording the search well.
So I wondered if people could share their favorite ROM/Kernel and a little about what it can do or point me to a reliable online comparison.- obviously one with 4.2 would be good but even a 4.1.2 improvement would be helpful
no. read the rules
Give MiUI a go over on miui android.
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searching in the wrong forums or not wording the search well.
So I wondered if people could share their favorite ROM/Kernel and a little about what it can do or point me to a reliable online comparison.- obviously one with 4.2 would be good but even a 4.1.2 improvement would be helpful
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1935514
Please start by reading the faqs and guides first .
jje
Here is The Best ROM ever!! Must try!
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Thank you but I am puzzled
Glebun said:
no. read the rules
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I glance through forum rules in the same way that I read terms and conditions and instruction manuals - that is that I scan them for anything that may be important and refer to them occasionally if I find I am doing something wrong. I would strongly suspect that many people do not even do this much. So having encountered a problem of apparently doing something wrong I took the trouble (once I had found them) to read fully through the rules here http://forum.xda-developers.com/announcement.php?a=81 . In all honesty I cant see how my post contravenes any rule in that, as a newbie, I am just asking for opinions and sources for what I need. I could have just googled but the last time I did that I nearly bricked my tablet, and was told that this was the place to come for help and advice. I did follow the rule to search the forums first but that didn't turn up anything useful
My instinct was to post this in the developer forum but, since this clearly states it is for experienced user/developer discussion only, I didn't.
I don't understand why it would be so wrong to have feature lists and experience comments for what is developed here. I did find some very good descriptions from Omega and for that reason will probably try one of these first but it would be nice to know how others stack up and whether, for example, there are any other 4.2 ROMs out there.
I do thank you for taking the time to read my request.
Clive
Two posts prior to yours is a link to the thread concerning why best Rom threads aren't allowed
i recommend playing with stock roms first before trying custom roms. get to know your phone first.
flash
root
debloat
apply mods
etc
etc.
I have found that now - though not in main rules!
slaphead20 said:
Two posts prior to yours is a link to the thread concerning why best Rom threads aren't allowed
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I have to say I don't understand why, despite the explanation, because the nature of a forum is that members can answer the posts that they want to and ignore those they feel are irrelevant. I think by comparison what I really mean is a feature list - after all the main for rooting a phone (other than "because I can") is, I would think, because (a) you want more control (b) you want to get rid of bloatware (c) because you want features that your current ROM doesn't have but which could be available (d) because you want to overclock the processor - within sensible limits, or not - All of these in my experience amount to wanting a "cooler smarter device"
I do appreciate that this is a developers forum and I will in future try and pay more attention to rules here. Would it be wrong to ask if any of the experienced developers here know where else to go for some guidance about what newly issued ROMs contain, not necessarily rating them but just saying what is different to stock. I have in mind the sort of information posted by Omega in the forums here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1663656 If each ROM creator had something similar and they were collated together in a sticky forum it would be really useful - It would be something I would be quite happy to subscribe to with a fee, with the income returned to the developers who contribute. It would be so useful to people like myself who do not have hours of time and (at least until I have gained more confidence) the nerve to keep switching ROMS
Each ROM has a changelog for each release
Just read it
thanks for that good advice
I have been reading more and can see that I can probably flash most of the things I want to my stock ROM
I actually prefer this because I do like Touch Wiz over all the other launchers I have tried
My only concern is that so far I haven't been able update a stock ROM without going through the rooting process again and re-making all the mods - should I look for stock roms that have been rooted - each time I re-root with ODIN I am back with CWM recovery rather than TWRP - I haven't read the benefits of one over the other but I know that on my phone I can't read the CWM commands on recovery screen so prefer TWRP
I am sure that people must have found ways to update to new stock versions without losing root so will keep on searching - time is the biggest enemy as I have been four hours on here already today!
Clive
gbswales said:
I have to say I don't understand why, despite the explanation, because the nature of a forum is that members can answer the posts that they want to and ignore those they feel are irrelevant.
Before the thread is locked .
But this is a developers forum not a fix your phone or make it cool forum .
Users are expected to either have a basic knowledge and if not to bother to read the FAQS and Guides .
I think by comparison what I really mean is a feature list
All listed for each rom in the thread .
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1663656 If each ROM creator had something similar and they were collated together in a sticky forum it would be really useful -
That has been done in the past but as we still get multiple what's best rom posts it was dropped .
Its not nerve that is required its a matter of starting where all the experinced users and devs start by reading the basics .
jje
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cynical but at least funny
djembey said:
Here is The Best ROM ever!! Must try!
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As it gave me a laugh I have given you thanks though posted a comment on you tube too
time is the enemy
JJEgan said:
gbswales said:
I have to say I don't understand why, despite the explanation, because the nature of a forum is that members can answer the posts that they want to and ignore those they feel are irrelevant.
Before the thread is locked .
But this is a developers forum not a fix your phone or make it cool forum .
Users are expected to either have a basic knowledge and if not to bother to read the FAQS and Guides .
I think by comparison what I really mean is a feature list
All listed for each rom in the thread .
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1663656 If each ROM creator had something similar and they were collated together in a sticky forum it would be really useful -
That has been done in the past but as we still get multiple what's best rom posts it was dropped .
Its not nerve that is required its a matter of starting where all the experinced users and devs start by reading the basics .
jje
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Believe me I read about 20 posts before even rooting and spent three days building up the confidence to do it - even so my heat was in my mouth until it rebooted successfully. I think, as suggested by someone else , I will for now stick to modifying the things I want to change by flashing zips using Mobile Odin (I thought that was an app well worth paying for - really easy to use - I also like TWRP - I just hate the idea of having to re-do the root and most of these mods when stock 4.2 gets released. I have now found a few more detailed descriptions by going into the forum marked for developers only Omega's are particularly good. All these shop window type posts gathered into one place is all I think would really be needed - I just find it very difficult to search the forums because when I started searching on things like "ROM comparison" and "ROM features" I didn't see the post that has been pointed out since about why you don't do this. My foray into this has taken over four hours rather than 5-10 minutes
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gbswales said:
JJEgan said:
Believe me I read about 20 posts before even rooting and spent three days building up the confidence to do it - even so my heat was in my mouth until it rebooted successfully. I think, as suggested by someone else , I will for now stick to modifying the things I want to change by flashing zips using Mobile Odin (I thought that was an app well worth paying for - really easy to use - I also like TWRP - I just hate the idea of having to re-do the root and most of these mods when stock 4.2 gets released. I have now found a few more detailed descriptions by going into the forum marked for developers only Omega's are particularly good. All these shop window type posts gathered into one place is all I think would really be needed - I just find it very difficult to search the forums because when I started searching on things like "ROM comparison" and "ROM features" I didn't see the post that has been pointed out since about why you don't do this. My foray into this has taken over four hours rather than 5-10 minutes
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We all go through this, but you will get more confident.
The main thing to remember is if things go wrong, don't panic, walk away, put the kettle on, have a think about what might have gone wrong, reread instructions, check, check, check!
What you musn't do is randomly trying different things in a panic
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slaphead20 said:
gbswales said:
We all go through this, but you will get more confident.
The main thing to remember is if things go wrong, don't panic, walk away, put the kettle on, have a think about what might have gone wrong, reread instructions, check, check, check!
What you musn't do is randomly trying different things in a panic
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And to add a prelude to slappy's post...BACKUP! BACKUP! BACKUP! before doing anything to your phone every single time. So many arses have been saved because of this.
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Please read this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1935514
While browsing on my phone, I recently read a thread about developing your first rom. However, I forgot to subscribe to the thread, now I cannot find it anywhere. I remember it being multiple posts and using a less common device as its example phone, as well as more colloquial language. Any help would be appreciated. I've looked through quite a number of forums with a multitude of search terms, so how I cannot locate this thread again is beyond me.
TheBladeofFate said:
While browsing on my phone, I recently read a thread about developing your first rom. However, I forgot to subscribe to the thread, now I cannot find it anywhere. I remember it being multiple posts and using a less common device as its example phone, as well as more colloquial language. Any help would be appreciated. I've looked through quite a number of forums with a multitude of search terms, so how I cannot locate this thread again is beyond me.
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Let me Google that for you
Wow this is so helpful! I shouldn't have expected anything more than lmgtfy.
TheBladeofFate said:
Wow this is so helpful! I shouldn't have expected anything more than lmgtfy.
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Rather than being a muppet, did you actually bother to look at the results? Searching via Google using the "site:forum.xda-developers.com" tag is almost always a better bet than trying to use the XDA search engine.
Using the information you gave brought in some great results in the first page - if you can't build a custom ROM based on those instructions then you should just give up before you try.
As for the "less common device", three of those threads are for the Galaxy Ace Plus, the Samsung Galaxy Grand Duos i9082 and the LG Optimus 3D - none of which are particularly common devices.
I agree that the results are extremely helpful, but I am looking for that specific thread as it had a link to a ROM I wished to attempt to port.
TheBladeofFate said:
I agree that the results are extremely helpful, but I am looking for that specific thread as it had a link to a ROM I wished to attempt to port.
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You'll just have to try and give as much detail as possible - what was the device, the ROM name, the Developer name, the date of the original post - whatever you can possibly remember about it.
Unfortunately I cannot recall any identifying information, simply that there were quite a few posts and that there was a post in which he explained a bunch of commands and which ones would be useful. He also had pictures that I believe had paint level illustrations. And something about green and 420 comes to mind as well.
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Unfortunately I cannot recall any identifying information, simply that there were quite a few posts and that there was a post in which he explained a bunch of commands and which ones would be useful. He also had pictures that I believe had paint level illustrations. And something about green and 420 comes to mind as well.
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Not this one? [HOW TO] Beginners Guide to Android ROM Development
Not that one, although it is extremely easy to follow and understand.
I found the thread in question, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2314836. Had to change the search terms up and check in a forum I wasn't checking before.
Thanks for your help simon!