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Okay guys, i flashed the 2.3.4 ota as soon as it came out (before all this trouble with it of course) and now i am stuck because i was under the impression that the new bootloader would be unlocked so i had never even though about eating any pudding before the fact. Now i come to my trouble, im running a totally stock 2.3.4 att and i cant seem to find a way out.
Question #1- If i have a locked bootloader can i fruitcake back?
Question #2- Is there a possible way to unlock the new bootloader?
Question #3- How in heck do i get root, im on windows 7 and i recently tried the two bat files that one of the devs released and they were a no go, it didnt seem to flash the preinstall when i tried to look for it, it wasnt there. I have been quietly trying to fix this on my own for days now i am asking for a little help. Im stumped.
I got root using the /preinstall method with those 2 .bat files posted yesterday.
From page 30-35 is the guidance I followed from mramirezusa.
Other than that we are in the same boat.. I read puddings will flash relatively safely.http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1159950&page=30
cthomas5714 said:
Okay guys, i flashed the 2.3.4 ota as soon as it came out (before all this trouble with it of course) and now i am stuck because i was under the impression that the new bootloader would be unlocked so i had never even though about eating any pudding before the fact. Now i come to my trouble, im running a totally stock 2.3.4 att and i cant seem to find a way out.
Question #1- If i have a locked bootloader can i fruitcake back?
Question #2- Is there a possible way to unlock the new bootloader?
Question #3- How in heck do i get root, im on windows 7 and i recently tried the two bat files that one of the devs released and they were a no go, it didnt seem to flash the preinstall when i tried to look for it, it wasnt there. I have been quietly trying to fix this on my own for days now i am asking for a little help. Im stumped.
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Question #2- Is there a possible way to unlock the new bootloader? yes use pudding
cthomas5714 said:
Okay guys, i flashed the 2.3.4 ota as soon as it came out (before all this trouble with it of course) and now i am stuck because i was under the impression that the new bootloader would be unlocked so i had never even though about eating any pudding before the fact. Now i come to my trouble, im running a totally stock 2.3.4 att and i cant seem to find a way out.
Question #1- If i have a locked bootloader can i fruitcake back?
Question #2- Is there a possible way to unlock the new bootloader?
Question #3- How in heck do i get root, im on windows 7 and i recently tried the two bat files that one of the devs released and they were a no go, it didnt seem to flash the preinstall when i tried to look for it, it wasnt there. I have been quietly trying to fix this on my own for days now i am asking for a little help. Im stumped.
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hey man first things first. dont panic, you are not stuck. this is temporary at best, in the mean while theres plenty of stuff you can do, sbf is not safe to begin with. so actually be gladd you only got to use RSD one time
first things first, get yourselfed unlocked, pudding will do the trick. once after pudding, you never have to touch RSD
Once you are done with pudding go ahead and get tenfars unlocked cwm
once you are done with that you are free to flash pretty much all the roms, as usually custom roms, or fruit cakes dont have bl, only the rest
enjoy
Okay guys, thanks for your help. but let me get this clear, i do not have a unlocked bootloader, im a pudding virgin. I can simply rsd the 1.83 with pudding and thats it? No worries no nothing?
cthomas5714 said:
Okay guys, thanks for your help. but let me get this clear, i do not have a unlocked bootloader, im a pudding virgin. I can simply rsd the 1.83 with pudding and thats it? No worries no nothing?
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Yes but you still can't use any other sbf. I'd use the raw pudding sbf, unlock, then use CWM from here on out. No more rsd
Sorry about that. There is just the unlock and then the unlock packaged with 1.8.3. The one that has has been causing bricks from my understanding is the packaged one. Be sure you flash just the unlock.
Anyone know what exactly will be erased from /data after flashing the unlock? Also I don't want to restore backed up files that will conflict with new ones. Any guidance on this is appreciated.
snudmusk said:
Sorry about that. There is just the unlock and then the unlock packaged with 1.8.3. The one that has has been causing bricks from my understanding is the packaged one. Be sure you flash just the unlock.
Anyone know what exactly will be erased from /data after flashing the unlock? Also I don't want to restore backed up files that will conflict with new ones. Any guidance on this is appreciated.
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All user data is wiped when unlocking. The 1.8.3 sbf with pudding is safe to flash but i recommend just using pudding and then CWM and ditch rsd.
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All user data is wiped when unlocking. The 1.8.3 sbf with pudding is safe to flash but i recommend just using pudding and then CWM and ditch rsd.
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Agree, just use the pudding only sbf. to unlock , then preinstall to get root.
Make sure to have 50 or so battery so you don't run into the trouble I had with battery being to low to fastboot. Also once you flash pudding you wont be able to boot the phone, don't panic just follow steps to fastboot oem unlock and phone will boot fine afterwards.
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woahh no bad idea, im scared. I did exactly as you all said and it acts like its hard bricked, SVF:105 error but then it says no OS detected and i have 14 options
1RSD
2Fastboot
3Nvflash
4-9BP something
9Android recovery
10Boot android (no bp)
11Device UID
12Console
13early usb enumeration
14BP tools
WHAT DO I DO?
cthomas5714 said:
woahh no bad idea, im scared. I did exactly as you all said and it acts like its hard bricked, SVF:105 error but then it says no OS detected and i have 14 options
1RSD
2Fastboot
3Nvflash
4-9BP something
9Android recovery
10Boot android (no bp)
11Device UID
12Console
13early usb enumeration
14BP tools
WHAT DO I DO?
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Which did you flash? Pudding or 1.8.3 with pudding?
Try connecting your phone to pc select fastboot and finish the pudding instructions (fastboot oem unlock)
It might boot then.
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Here is what I did.
1. If you were to update to the OTA 4.5.91. Or already on the OTA 4.5.91 you can still unlock your bootloader.
2. Flash pudding only SBF so you can unlock the bootloader. http://diamantephoto.com/fastboot.rar direct link. Flash this one.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=1136261 Original Post about pudding.
It will go to a text only 14 option screen and say something like boot failed 0x1000. Don't freak out and tell me you bricked you phone blah blah blah. You still have to unlock the bootloader by choosing fastboot from your phone and connecting it to the computer via usb. Make sure you have ADB with fastboot tools installed on you computer.
Open command prompt from you computer and type fastboot oem unlock. It'll display warning about voiding warranty and a unique device id. Type again fastboot oem unlock ############. The # are the unique device numbers. Don't type # it wont work. The instructions are posted on the pudding thread if you would like to read more about it.
Then type fastboot reboot to reboot. Unlock should be displayed on top left of screen and it'll take 5 long mins to boot up.
3.Then you need to install CWM and root.
You'll find instructions in the developers form. But if your lazy here is the CWM link. http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=1138541 follow the instructions or every time you reboot you will loose CWM. For root there are two available for gingerbread. http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=1140110 I used this one and got root.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=1138204 I hear this works too.. Haven't tested read the post if you want to use this method.
As always don't blame me for bricking if you happen to do so. DO IT AT YOUR OWN RISK. these are the steps I took to unlock and everything works great. Absolutely no problems with my phone after wards.
One thing unlocking your bootloader will format/erase data. Basically a factory data reset so make sure you backup everything with titanium or you favorite app. I would not restore system apps as i've had a few problems with email and motoblur force closes.
Is there a way to root without unlocking the bootloader?
five3zero said:
Is there a way to root without unlocking the bootloader?
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Yes.
Follow the instructions listed on here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=15023030
The 3rd post has the instructions I followed.
If you have problems be sure to read through the thread as someone else has most likely already had the same issue.
This worked for me.
cthomas5714 said:
woahh no bad idea, im scared. I did exactly as you all said and it acts like its hard bricked, SVF:105 error but then it says no OS detected and i have 14 options
1RSD
2Fastboot
3Nvflash
4-9BP something
9Android recovery
10Boot android (no bp)
11Device UID
12Console
13early usb enumeration
14BP tools
WHAT DO I DO?
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Just do: fastboot oem unlock (or whatever tthe code is)
Them: fastboot reboot
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Just curious if the new 2.3.4 gingerbread OTA can be unlocked using pudding. I'm having to get my atrix replaced via warranty and if the replacement happens to come with gingerbread already on it i want to know if i'll be able to unlock it or if i'll be stuck using p-roms.
You should be able to unlock it with pudding since its the same version of gingerbread that we have. Also, don't flash any sbf files (except pudding) because it has the new bootloader and you'll hard brick it if you do.
You can unlock with pudding and fastboot BUT there's a high chance you'll soft brick first with 0x1000 ... all you need to do is get into fastboot mode and redo the oem unlock command.
mysticdrew said:
You can unlock with pudding and fastboot BUT there's a high chance you'll soft brick first with 0x1000 ... all you need to do is get into fastboot mode and redo the oem unlock command.
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Alright, just to be absolutely, completely, all the way, 101% sure: does this OTA have ANY bootloader restrictions, be they a brick or non-unlockable bootloader. Has anybody tried to unlock the bootloader and run a custom ROM on the AT&T OTA? I just want to be able to run custom ROM's down the road (as in full ROM's, as in Cyanogenmod).
Do the OTA and never, never go back to any older stock version via RSD. Or you'll brick your phone.
@Chairsofter1138: the ota bootloader is locked. flash the pudding to unlock.
Alright, has anyone actually attempted to unlock the OTA via the pudding method? I'm being extra cautious here because I don't want to be stuck with a permanently locked down phone. Does it matter, then, if I use Kenthepenns (sp?) installation method or OTA straight from AT&T/ Motorola?
Chairsofter1138 said:
Alright, has anyone actually attempted to unlock the OTA via the pudding method? I'm being extra cautious here because I don't want to be stuck with a permanently locked down phone. Does it matter, then, if I use Kenthepenns (sp?) installation method or OTA straight from AT&T/ Motorola?
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Yes everyone has been unlocking via pudidng because it's the same leaked version that has been out for the past couple weeks.
Yes Going to this OTA will make a brickable phone. You WILL NOT BE ABLE TO DOWNGRADE via traditional SBF.
This is the question everyone has been asking on every thread and the devs aren't answering.
I am locked and stock on 1.83. My fuse HAS not been burnt. I want to be
1. On Gingerbread
2. Unlocked
The problem is that all the current gingerbread sbfs said you had to be ALREADY unlocked to flash them, so I don't know how anyone has been testing this OTA with a locked bootloader. If you had the new Gingerbread, you were already unlocked, is how I understood it.
Questions in follow up to the above:
1. If I OTA before unlocking, what do I flash afterwards to unlock? Saying 'pudding' because there's 10,000 files in that thread, including links to an 'unlocker.sbf', as well as a full sbf operating system. What specific file?
2. Lots of new builds say they have an 'unlocked bootloader' built in, but nobody can figure out what that means. Does that mean you can flash them without being unlocked to unlock? What do you need to do to unlock after you flash them?
3. If I unlock now at stock 1.83, and take the OTA, what happens, is the bootloader locked again? I know OTA installs a new bootloader.
Please someone help me understand. There's too much hard bricking and misinformation out there on all the dev threads. What's true (and please tell us how you know).
I noticed everyone talking about the OTA. I saw on the Moto site that the new update is only available OTA but there's a link for download for the file "Blur_Version.4.5.91.MB860.ATT.en.US". Can anyone confirm that this can be installed without brick on an unlocked bootloader? I've seen other threads stating so but they're not really clear on what's being said.
m0use1 said:
This is the question everyone has been asking on every thread and the devs aren't answering.
I am locked and stock on 1.83. My fuse HAS not been burnt. I want to be
1. On Gingerbread
2. Unlocked
The problem is that all the current gingerbread sbfs said you had to be ALREADY unlocked to flash them, so I don't know how anyone has been testing this OTA with a locked bootloader. If you had the new Gingerbread, you were already unlocked, is how I understood it.
Questions in follow up to the above:
1. If I OTA before unlocking, what do I flash afterwards to unlock? Saying 'pudding' because there's 10,000 files in that thread, including links to an 'unlocker.sbf', as well as a full sbf operating system. What specific file?
2. Lots of new builds say they have an 'unlocked bootloader' built in, but nobody can figure out what that means. Does that mean you can flash them without being unlocked to unlock? What do you need to do to unlock after you flash them?
3. If I unlock now at stock 1.83, and take the OTA, what happens, is the bootloader locked again? I know OTA installs a new bootloader.
Please someone help me understand. There's too much hard bricking and misinformation out there on all the dev threads. What's true (and please tell us how you know).
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+1 to everything this guy said..There is a ton of guests in this forum wondering the same **** too. Devs are doing a fantastic job, but us end users (including myself) don't really have a sense of direction right now.
Thx for your support help and patience to me, kind of new in this stuff, here is my question and I hope someone with absolutly real experience can answer.
Here is my reality, I have an Atrix with the new OTA update gingerbread, no UL BL, no root, no mod, clean...Can I still unlock the bootloader with the2dcourt guide in briefMobile? or I am stuck in the world of no mod forever? This is because I am tired of searching. someone guy s say you can, other say can´t (BriefMobile for example)...I really apreciate the help and a little guide just the names of treats or files I would search
I'm in the same boat, was waiting for the official update before making any mods, and I have to say, after a couple of hours on here this morning I'm a bit confused.
I got root fine (brief mobile's is solid for that) but now I'm trying to figure out the BL. Some posts say the OTA will hard brick if an SBF is flashed, others point to guides that use the SBF flash...
You can still unlock the BL with pudding and install CWM to flash custom rome. Use the preinstall method to root or use a pre-rooted custom rom.
DO NOT try to flash back to a stock froyo build or you will hard brick.
Incognitum said:
I'm in the same boat, was waiting for the official update before making any mods, and I have to say, after a couple of hours on here this morning I'm a bit confused.
I got root fine (brief mobile's is solid for that) but now I'm trying to figure out the BL. Some posts say the OTA will hard brick if an SBF is flashed, others point to guides that use the SBF flash...
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You will only hard brick with the OTA if you attempt to flash back to 4.1.83 or earlier stock builds. You can use the fruity cake builds (as they have pudding in them) to go back if you had to.
From here on out you have to use pudding to unlock the boot loader to enable custom rom flashing. Just follow the pudding thread for more info on that.
You can't flash an older SBF file, that will cause you to brick. The SBF files you should avoid are pretty much all of them except Gingerbread, Unlock, and Radio SBF's.
You can unlock your device even though you've updated. But you're stuck with that bootloader forever, but you can always downgrade with a fruit cake I believe.
It all seems confusing at first, but you'll get the hang of it!
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It all seems confusing at first, but you'll get the hang of it!
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Thanks for the vote of confidence! I had run several custom roms on my G1, but much less of that experience is proving to be helpful than I had hoped.
Thanks everyone for your speedy replies, I'll go give pudding a shot after breakfast.
if i flash pudding, just the unlock part and then fastboot the unlock....will i have to load a rom, or will gingerbread 2.34 still be there?
Okay, so the official pudding thread recommends beginners follow Brief Mobile's BL unlocking guide. I did, and got the message "oem unlock is not implemented". However, the 1st step in the guide is "If you’re on Gingerbread, skip to step 13". I am on GB from the OTA, but the guide was published a month ago, before the OTA update.
I'm guessing they said that because at the time it was published, you would need to have already done those steps to be on GB, so I may need to go back and follow through all the steps I skipped the first time. But if they had GB users skip steps because they would be harmful to GB phones, then that would be bad... Advice?
Incognitum said:
Okay, so the official pudding thread recommends beginners follow Brief Mobile's BL unlocking guide. I did, and got the message "oem unlock is not implemented". However, the 1st step in the guide is "If you’re on Gingerbread, skip to step 13". I am on GB from the OTA, but the guide was published a month ago, before the OTA update.
I'm guessing they said that because at the time it was published, you would need to have already done those steps to be on GB, so I may need to go back and follow through all the steps I skipped the first time. But if they had GB users skip steps because they would be harmful to GB phones, then that would be bad... Advice?
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Go through the whole thing. If you soft brick, just run fastboot oem unlock again.
Thx for the help and quick response everybody, I will try to put all the step together and get the ULBL, xda always there indeed
fanhtc2 said:
Thx for the help and quick response everybody, I will try to put all the step together and get the ULBL, xda always there indeed
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Thanks for opening this thread. I was gonna ask the same thing . Now I know what to do...I did OTA as well. Awesome that I can still unlock the bootloader.
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Step by step ULBL, Root for OTA GB
**I've been getting PMs for clarification: I didn't do a single mod to my phone before this morning. Stock ATT/Moto Atrix, installed stock ATT/Moto OTA GB update yesterday. Following these steps I am now BLUL and rooted.**
So here are all the steps needed to get a stock, OTA Gingerbread Atrix Unlocked and rooted:
1. Follow Brief Mobile's BL unlock guide here.
Things I found out that you may like to know:
-You will need to complete all steps *even the ones the guide says to skip*.
-When you enter your device unlock code, it is case sensitive; use caps-lock.
-The most recent SBF flash is in the XDA IHOP pudding thread, use this instead of the older file linked to in the Brief Mobile guide.
-When you are done, reboot will take a *long* time; just stay calm.
Edit: After 30 min on the dual core screen with the "unlocked" in the corner I pulled the battery... after reboot everything seems fine.
2. Follow Brief Mobile's guide to root here.
Thanks to brief mobile, and to the xda folks who held my hand through this whole thing the first time
Incognitum said:
So here are all the steps needed to get a stock, OTA Gingerbread Atrix Unlocked and rooted:
1. Follow Brief Mobile's BL unlock guide here.
Things I found out that you may like to know:
-You will need to complete all steps *even the ones the guide says to skip*.
-When you enter your device unlock code, it is case sensitive; use caps-lock.
-The most recent SBF flash is in the XDA IHOP pudding thread, use this instead of the older file linked to in the Brief Mobile guide.
-When you are done, reboot will take a *long* time; just stay calm.
2. Follow Brief Mobile's guide to root here.
Thanks to brief mobile, and to the xda folks who held my hand through this whole thing the first time
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i love you. (no homo..not that theres anyway wrong with that)....THANKS!
defnow said:
i love you. (no homo..not that theres anyway wrong with that)....THANKS!
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Hey, I appreciate it, and I'm glad to help! But honestly, I stopped at each step and asked the experts what to do, and then just wrote down in one post everything they told me.
I'm glad it's saving time for those coming behind me, but the real thanks belongs to the guys who helped me through it this morning; thanks again guys!
I have a few questions on unlocking the bootloader and installing a custom recovery. I switched over from the nexus s and things are a little different then what I am used to.
I have already rooted the phone but I was looking at unlocking the bootloader and installing the CWM Recovery to flash over the Alien Rom. My question is if I decide to go back to stock will flashing the 4.5.1A SBF file through RSD Lite return everything back to stock including the recovery. And to lock the bootloader would just be a process of flashing nopudding4u.sbf and runnning moto-fastboot oem lock? If not what is else needed?
This might be a stupid question but I have looked around for a stock recovery file and couldn't find one.
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I have a few questions on unlocking the bootloader and installing a custom recovery. I switched over from the nexus s and things are a little different then what I am used to.
I have already rooted the phone but I was looking at unlocking the bootloader and installing the CWM Recovery to flash over the Alien Rom. My question is if I decide to go back to stock will flashing the 4.5.1A SBF file through RSD Lite return everything back to stock including the recovery. And to lock the bootloader would just be a process of flashing nopudding4u.sbf and runnning moto-fastboot oem lock? If not what is else needed?
This might be a stupid question but I have looked around for a stock recovery file and couldn't find one.
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There was an update yesterday the 25th in the pudding thread found here with a file that will lock the bootloader for you. I don't know it has been tested yet but it is only the bootloader not the recovery it could potentially bork something according to the OP but the sbf will fix it. So long story short you are correct welcome to the photon I left from the nexus as well and this phone is just fantastic!
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There was an update yesterday the 25th in the pudding thread found here with a file that will lock the bootloader for you. I don't know it has been tested yet but it is only the bootloader not the recovery it could potentially bork something according to the OP but the sbf will fix it. So long story short you are correct welcome to the photon I left from the nexus as well and this phone is just fantastic!
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Perfect, thank you for answering my questions. I agree, I absolutely love this phone and the download speeds are way faster then my nexus s. Do you think with google purchasing motorola they will release an update with an unlocked bootloader?
Ive been reading the threads and I see some confusion. When I unlock my phone would I be able to re lock it and put it back to stock? Ive read where people can't flash the SBF anymore and are stock on a electrify SBF can someone please answer before I unlock my phone ?
Jo_795 said:
Ive been reading the threads and I see some confusion. When I unlock my phone would I be able to re lock it and put it back to stock? Ive read where people can't flash the SBF anymore and are stock on a electrify SBF can someone please answer before I unlock my phone ?
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Check out this link
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=20331623&postcount=6
This is probably one of the most helpful guides for CORRECTLY unlocking/locking your Photon! Also check out qbking77 thread and how to videos at this link:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1250697
Hope this helps!
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You can always go back to stock. The threads provided above give nearly step-by-step directions on how to do those. As stated, QBKing77 does it in videos, so you can follow along and actually see how it's done.
The unlock is extremely simple, and so is going back to stock. As long as you follow the steps, you can just flash the sbf and lock the bootloader in a couple minutes.
It's worth to note, though I'm sure you know, that at this time unlocked bootloaders lose 4g. It's an issue that is being worked on though.
yes , thank you. will flash Cm7 hopefully tonight
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Check out this link
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=20331623&postcount=6
This is probably one of the most helpful guides for CORRECTLY unlocking/locking your Photon! Also check out qbking77 thread and how to videos at this link:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1250697
Hope this helps!
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^ This is good advice.
If you plan to use any of Joker's roms then it will be best to flash 198-7 before unlocking.
Follow QBKing77's video to unlock. The only difference is the pudding file is now smaller (1MB - derpunlock) than the one he used in the video so will take hardly no time to flash. Also, if I remember correctly, he mentions "Fastboot" mode once when actually booting into "RSD" mode - do what he does, and take the same actions he takes and it works just fine.
To re-lock, some folks are having issues with the process and there is no video to follow. I just re-flash one of the stock SBFs in RSDLite (198-7, 198-6, or 154-5) and that relocks the phone. It takes longer, but it works every time.
Common errors:
Not following QBKing's video
Flashing the "235pudding" file - this will flash the Electrify's GB 2.3.5 sbf and currently there is no unlocking or returning from this.
If I unlock can I nandroid back to my 4g rom or do I have to flash the sbf to relock first?
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