Can anyone explain what the advantages of unlocking the bootloader via the testpoint method are over using the "official" SE way of doing it.
I have read some stuff about drm keys....but what functionality will actually be lost if I do it via SE way.
Man i cant explain advantages of testpoint method but i can say this method is horror for me;i am using for my phone "official" method and i am happy
sorry for my bad english
its a horror until u try it..
i tried it and its not that difficult.. and FYI i AM A NOOB.. lol
advantages: u can relock bl later.. and retain uur warranty.. and use apps like track id..
with official method u lose the warranty for sure...
Disadvantages of official method,
+.You will loose warranty due to they are logging imei numbers who used this method
+.You will loose drm keys,Sony apps like track id won't work
+.PC companion won't work,it will brick your phone if you use pc companion
+.You will have to wait till ICS update comes for wotan or ftf format in order to upgrade to ICS due to pc companion not working.
Advantages of official method,
+. Easier process comparing to S1tool/SETool2 method for most users,tho test point method is not that hard imho.
Advantages of S1tool/SETool2 method,
+.Warranty
+.drm keys will not be gone,so Sony apps work
+.PC companion works well for updating & repairing phone(I can confirm on SETool2 paid method,not sure about S1tool method).Believe me repair function in pc companion is one very useful thing when you screw up with flashing custom roms,it saved my phone more than 10 times now
+.In SETool2 paid method Jinx13 will do everything needs to be done to unlock the boot loader via team viewer,all you gotta do is connect the test point to the wire when he says
watch this video, tons of info in there
THIS VIDEO
DRM, Facebook like in the stock music player and the old version of TrackID won't work.
Some of these can be fixed by some patch.
@all:
You can relock your bootloader if it's unlocked via the official way by flashing a simple ftf in flashtool. After that you can use PC companion normally.
And if by the way you happen to connect the wrong point accidently, u will screw up the trim area...which will be a bigger problem...so...noobies why not go with the easier method...I m a noobie so prefered official method...and it is relockable....so I will suggest the official method.
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@all
Thanks for the replies.
I will have no difficulties using either method (You should have tried rooting the x10 in the early days..that was awkward!) , I just wanted to know the advatages of each method.
I dont really use trackid etc, but would love to be able to relock to keep the warrenty.
I think i will use testpoint....time to find a wire and a pin, macgyver eat your heart out
gregbradley said:
@all
Thanks for the replies.
I will have no difficulties using either method (You should have tried rooting the x10 in the early days..that was awkward!) , I just wanted to know the advatages of each method.
I dont really use trackid etc, but would love to be able to relock to keep the warrenty.
I think i will use testpoint....time to find a wire and a pin, macgyver eat your heart out
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I think you can re-lock even in S1tool method by using Restore button in S1tool.Afaik you will definitely loose warranty with official way due to Sony logging your IMEI number :/
unisol107 said:
And if by the way you happen to connect the wrong point accidently, u will screw up the trim area...which will be a bigger problem...so...noobies why not go with the easier method...I m a noobie so prefered official method...and it is relockable....so I will suggest the official method.
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IF the trim area gets damaged, it can be easily fixed with an ftf found at the xperia play forums. Tested by me.
Oficial Metod is better, you can re-lock bl without problems, and unlocking is really easy. I found here on Xperia Neo Forums that you can't re-lock bl if you used testpoint metod. So I dont know if you can or not.. somebody say yes somebody say no.
i unlocked my bootloader via test point method and it was easy....
SĐF said:
Oficial Metod is better, you can re-lock bl without problems, and unlocking is really easy. I found here on Xperia Neo Forums that you can't re-lock bl if you used testpoint metod. So I dont know if you can or not.. somebody say yes somebody say no.
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It's not better, it's easier.
Is it possible to revive the phone after it is brick when using testpoint connected the point. wrongly by accident?
ksrokiller said:
Is it possible to revive the phone after it is brick when using testpoint connected the point. wrongly by accident?
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Yes. In the xperia play forums lies a flashable ftf that can recover a damaged trim area. The link is long lost by me, though.
theredsonja said:
Yes. In the xperia play forums lies a flashable ftf that can recover a damaged trim area. The link is long lost by me, though.
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I see, What is the process/steps to repair trim area?
since my phone is neo..
can i use s1tool to unlock it?
can it be relock ?
as i know the drm keys will be maintained..
Testpoint method is the best choise! It is easer than official - just take 10 seconds!
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I see, What is the process/steps to repair trim area?
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Flash the aforementioned ftf via flashtool.
Guys keep in mind that if you connect the wrong point doing the testpoint method you can not only damage the trim area but also damage the phone itself physically.
I was one of the first to try the method and used wrong information from russian forum and bricked my phone completely.Fortunately i got it repaired under warranty but just keep in mind that depending on what exactly you shorten you can damage the phone itself.
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Guys after working hundreds of hour , i have posted a guide to unlock boot loaders of xperia ray without losing DRM data.
it is 100% tested and working fine , i also tried cyanogenmod , MIUI and all working well
you can follow this guide :-
unlock boot loaders of xperia ray without losing drm data
This method is also applicable for other xperia devices , if you are using other xperia phone then find your phone's test point here :
Test Points for Xperia Devices – Xperia Arc / Active / Mini / Mini Pro / Neo / Play / Pro / Ray
if you like my work then hit thanks , i also appeal developers to post more info about it , as i am n00b
Yeah if you want to 100% void your warranty then do this. If you mess with the TA then you WILL void your warranty. Ok I did it with my ray ages ago and just did it with my play but SE have now made trackID that needed DRM keys to work now not need them. Head over to the play themes and apps section and it's there.
Regards
Blackwatch
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Too much complicate with these cables, etc. I used for this only one paper clip. Connection was between testpoint and metal casing sim slots! So simple
And i was unlocking branded Ray with NO access to fastboot Now i have unlocked bootloader, fastboot and simfree, track-id still works olny for 15 GBP http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1304417 i got also full backup of my bootloader.
If you have access to fastboot mode (blue LED) it will by free for you http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1285285
veimus said:
Too much complicate with these cables, etc. I used for this only one paper clip. Connection was between testpoint and metal casing sim slots! So simple
And i was unlocking branded Ray with NO access to fastboot Now i have unlocked bootloader, fastboot and simfree, track-id still works olny for 15 GBP http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1304417 i got also full backup of my bootloader.
If you have access to fastboot mode (blue LED) it will by free for you http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1285285
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You had to pay for it? . See I like the idea and if you know you won't break or brick the device then do it. But if you do hard flashing and drop your phone a lot then don't do it as it does void your warranty this way. Where we modify the TA area it is against the warranty and voids it. This is why I don't advise doing it if you are likely to need the warranty. But I will say now. If anyone has the play and wants to try this then it is actually quite tricky as it is underneath the battery and the battery need to be inserted. Also when removing the test point you can't remove the battery so..... Just pick the device up and hold the back button when removing the test point wire.
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Blackwatch
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Blackwatch89 said:
You had to pay for it?
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to unlock bootloader you need fastboot - in branded/locked phone fastboot needs to be enabled via PAID hardware/software.
using this method, i was aware of the void the warranty
during the whole process i did not pulled out the battery
It's still unclear for me why people want to unlock their bootloader?? Rooting can be done via the exploit so..
for custom kernel /overclocking / CM7 / MIUI etc
Bazonga said:
It's still unclear for me why people want to unlock their bootloader?? Rooting can be done via the exploit so..
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for installing custom roms like - cyanogenmod and MIUI
and for installing custom kernels
O allrightt I thought that was also possible with locked bootloaders
Noob question here... Is it possible to just unlock the bootloader the usual way, like I did on my Xperia Play or does it have to be done the way in OP?
[vertigo] said:
Noob question here... Is it possible to just unlock the bootloader the usual way, like I did on my Xperia Play or does it have to be done the way in OP?
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yes you can unlock it usual way , infact peoples are using normal way to unlock bootloaders of Xperia phones
but if you don't want to lose track id like apps then use above posted method
I've unlocked my bootloader using the testpoint method which allowed me to install the 2.3.4 ROM on my branded Orange Ray when it first came out.
Just used DoomLord's tool to root. Really easy.
I think the only thing I'm missing is FastBoot, but I'm not sure there's a compelling need for that at the moment, to me at least?!
richratt said:
I've unlocked my bootloader using the testpoint method which allowed me to install the 2.3.4 ROM on my branded Orange Ray when it first came out.
Just used DoomLord's tool to root. Really easy.
I think the only thing I'm missing is FastBoot, but I'm not sure there's a compelling need for that at the moment, to me at least?!
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is not possible to unlock the bootloader without working fastboot mode
@veimus
he unlocked bootloaders with this method
http://androidflip.com/unlock-xperia-phones-bootloader-without-losing-drm-data-track-id-working/
xperia ray said:
@veimus
he unlocked bootloaders with this method
http://androidflip.com/unlock-xperia-phones-bootloader-without-losing-drm-data-track-id-working/
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but You can not unlock the bootloader without running fastboot mode in s1tool!
BL unlocked in program "s1tool" = he must have working fastboot mode so why he wrote: "I think the only thing I'm missing is FastBoot" ??
r33p said:
For all :
Hold volume up. Connect usb. Blue light? If yes bt unlock possible with s1tool.
If no you need to go here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1304417
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And we have 2 programs in testpoint metod:
s1tool - free for unlock BL with working fastboot (Bootloader Unlock Allowed: Yes/ blue LED)
SETool2 - paid for locked phone for full unlock fastboot/bootloader/sim-lock!
richratt said:
I've unlocked my bootloader using the testpoint method which allowed me to install the 2.3.4 ROM on my branded Orange Ray when it first came out.
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i think its bull**** because "FlashTool" does the same thing (flash orginal 2.3.4 ROM) without unlocking the bootloader goodbye warranty
Just one noob question.
If I unlock the bootloader with testpoint methode and flash a custom kernel, did I also lose DRM data?
Or can I then flash a stock kernel and nothing wouldn't seen that I ever flash a custom kernel. Also Track ID and so one will work fine?
blue4you said:
Just one noob question.
If I unlock the bootloader with testpoint methode and flash a custom kernel, did I also lose DRM data?
Or can I then flash a stock kernel and nothing wouldn't seen that I ever flash a custom kernel. Also Track ID and so one will work fine?
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If you unlock the bootloader with testpoint methode it will not cause loss DRM flashing software, kernels, etc. also will not lose of DRM data
DRM we lose when we unlock bootloader by official method (SE webpage and unlock key from that page)
Track-id and SEUS update work fine for my Ray unlocked by testpoint (paid method for branded phone)
veimus said:
If you unlock the bootloader with testpoint methode it will not cause loss DRM flashing software, kernels, etc. also will not lose of DRM data
DRM we lose when we unlock bootloader by official method (SE webpage and unlock key from that page)
Track-id and SEUS update work fine for my Ray unlocked by testpoint (paid method for branded phone)
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veimus bro , is SEUS working fine for you ?
Actually i haven't tested it yet , But theoretically it should work
yes it works
followed the instructions and everyting works just fine. Thanks a lot.
Hi there is it possible to relock the boot loader for xperia mini? I unlocked it because i tried CM7. Now I am thinking of going bag to original firmware. Any help is appreciated!
If relocating is not possible, what should one do to get as close as possible back to the original firmware, is it still possible to get official upgrades?
Best,
Thorsten
Thorstenk said:
Hi there is it possible to relock the boot loader for xperia mini? I unlocked it because i tried CM7. Now I am thinking of going bag to original firmware. Any help is appreciated!
If relocating is not possible, what should one do to get as close as possible back to the original firmware, is it still possible to get official upgrades?
Best,
Thorsten
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First, this is ray forum
Second, try here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1126358
Third, remember if you are doing it with official method, you will never able to receive FOTA or SEUS update, you can, but only by flashing from xda.
So since we did the unofficial method, After we update through SEUS the bootloader is still unlocked?
I don't know about that. Since the service info still says bootloader unlocking allowed, I think the phone thinks itself as still locked. Flashing from seus might rely more on drm instead of whether the bootloader as locked or not.
hansip87 said:
I don't know about that. Since the service info still says bootloader unlocking allowed, I think the phone thinks itself as still locked. Flashing from seus might rely more on drm instead of whether the bootloader as locked or not.
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when service info says Bootloader unlock allowed: true, that means that it the bootloader is locked, but can be unlocked at will
as many devs say, unlocking the bootloader voids the warranty and bricks the phone when doing FOTA or SEUS
but there's a flashtool out there for us that will take care of it
yujin_11 said:
when service info says Bootloader unlock allowed: true, that means that it the bootloader is locked, but can be unlocked at will
as many devs say, unlocking the bootloader voids the warranty and bricks the phone when doing FOTA or SEUS
but there's a flashtool out there for us that will take care of it
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You do know this method right? http://androidflip.com/unlock-xperia-phones-bootloader-without-losing-drm-data-track-id-working/ When using that method, it is unlocked but the report still says 'Bootloader unlock allowed: true'. So if you use this method (as what idareyou and me were doing back then) the phone thinks that it is still 'locked', even though it's unlocked.
hansip87 said:
You do know this method right? http://androidflip.com/unlock-xperia-phones-bootloader-without-losing-drm-data-track-id-working/ When using that method, it is unlocked but the report still says 'Bootloader unlock allowed: true'. So if you use this method (as what idareyou and me were doing back then) the phone thinks that it is still 'locked', even though it's unlocked.
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Yeah. I can confirm that my bootloader is unlocked but it still says 'Bootloader unlock allowed:Yes'
I thought at first I wasn't succesful even though it went smoothly so I tried flashing custom Kernel and it was succesful.
I want to know if in the future if SE release their ICS and we update using SEUS the unlocked bootloader remains because believe me, I don't want to go through the same process again, I got electrecuted several time because I don't have test points, just a clip and copper wire.
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Veimus from original thread confirm that seus do works and he can reflash the gingerbread from seus. Sm gt should be ok with ics, And with Sony confirms mo changes hm kernel. I think it will be Rom update only.
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idareyoutoclickthis said:
Yeah. I can confirm that my bootloader is unlocked but it still says 'Bootloader unlock allowed:Yes'
I thought at first I wasn't succesful even though it went smoothly so I tried flashing custom Kernel and it was succesful.
I want to know if in the future if SE release their ICS and we update using SEUS the unlocked bootloader remains because believe me, I don't want to go through the same process again, I got electrecuted several time because I don't have test points, just a clip and copper wire.
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That's why you connect it to ground, silly! (The first two battery pins)
hansip87 said:
You do know this method right? http://androidflip.com/unlock-xperia-phones-bootloader-without-losing-drm-data-track-id-working/ When using that method, it is unlocked but the report still says 'Bootloader unlock allowed: true'. So if you use this method (as what idareyou and me were doing back then) the phone thinks that it is still 'locked', even though it's unlocked.
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yes i do, apparently i forgot to mention your last sentence. you've just beat me to it )
To reiterate for anybody's notice:
Bootloader unlock allowed: true
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means that you can unlock the bootloader, BUT it does not say if the bootloader is locked/unlocked already
I researched about the matter, and reached some conclusions:
- I don't want to use the TEST POINTER method, I really don't care about OTA updates or Track ID app (as far as I know there are no more consequences), Shazam and Soundhound do the same
- I would like to unlock the bootloader in some manner that, if I need to relock the warranty will still be valid (same goes for root, but I guess flashing an original firmware unroots the device)
That said, found the official instructions to unlock the BL, but still have the main question: is it the procedure completely reversible? Also, is it free?
Thanks in advance. Also really appreciate if someone corrects something wrong I said.
Maxxd01 said:
I researched about the matter, and reached some conclusions:
- I don't want to use the TEST POINTER method, I really don't care about OTA updates or Track ID app (as far as I know there are no more consequences), Shazam and Soundhound do the same
- I would like to unlock the bootloader in some manner that, if I need to relock the warranty will still be valid (same goes for root, but I guess flashing an original firmware unroots the device)
That said, found the official instructions to unlock the BL, but still have the main question: is it the procedure completely reversible? Also, is it free?
Thanks in advance. Also really appreciate if someone corrects something wrong I said.
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you can still relock your bootloader and receive official sony updates, but the problem is, you loose DRM(in which if sony finds out, you still lose warranty).
i found this thread and said that DRM cannot be restored :/
I don't know about non free relocking if it will be able to restore DRM though.
oh and by the way, this thread provides the easiest way to unlock and relock your bootloader for free.
goodluck and enjoy
DRM cannot be restored at all.
Install TrackID from market and it will work.
Bootloader can be relocked, doesn't matter how you unlocked.
And yes, it is free.
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Someguyfromhell said:
DRM cannot be restored at all.
Install TrackID from market and it will work.
Bootloader can be relocked, doesn't matter how you unlocked.
And yes, it is free.
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Ok, so I suppose the DRM Keys only affect the OTA updates (how should we care if we are unlocking BL for custom ROMs
So, I suppose if I have a problem on my Live (but it still turns on), I apply an OFW and then relock it, it's a matter of luck if the techical assistance is going to check if the DRM is still valid or not.
What method do you advice to unlock the BL?
Maxxd01 said:
Ok, so I suppose the DRM Keys only affect the OTA updates (how should we care if we are unlocking BL for custom ROMs
So, I suppose if I have a problem on my Live (but it still turns on), I apply an OFW and then relock it, it's a matter of luck if the techical assistance is going to check if the DRM is still valid or not.
What method do you advice to unlock the BL?
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Method, pick which is better for you. I used official method, no messing with cables.
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Unlock it the way you prefer to it does not matter it will lose warranty any way it is just luck if they will check it or not at the service center. Any way it is really hard to completely brick your phone unless you don't know what you are doing. The main difference is with the test point method you are able to update using seus without problems and it looks more complicated than it really is I only used a clip
just a question about unlocking thru official method.
since you would have to get the unlock key directly from Sony.
would they be able to track your phone since you will be giving them some details like your name, IMEI, email etc. to get the unlock code?
do the service centers have access to that database?
There are no Sony Mobile Service Centers, phones need to be taken back to shop and they use service of specific mobile repair shop.
Depending on what reason you need to take it back, they might want to check it or not. No one has so far done this, so we have no information.
What is DRM and Track ID ?
I want to unlock bootloader my phone, but I am still confused, what is the risk of a official bootloader from sony ? What is DRM and Track ID ? what is its usefulness for wt19i?
sorry my english is not good
dianfajar said:
I want to unlock bootloader my phone, but I am still confused, what is the risk of a official bootloader from sony ? What is DRM and Track ID ? what is its usefulness for wt19i?
sorry my english is not good
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There is no risk either way the difference is that with the official method you will lose your drm (Digital rights management) and the official support of track id (the app from se that you use to search for the info of a song playing in the radio or the tv etc.) meanwhile using the test point method you will not lose them. If you want to install a custom rom like cm9 or miui you need to unlock your bootloader to be able to flash the custom kernels those roms need.
can you save DRM with CWM backup before unlocking bootloader?
manilu001 said:
can you save DRM with CWM backup before unlocking bootloader?
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Nope, DRM is not saved in CWM backup.
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Thanks in advance for all helpfull answers.
I just want to understand the following. Some Live's come with "unlock bootloader allowed"="no" others ="yes". What does that means and more important: what are the implications?
I cannot understand the difference because as fair as I understand right now, all live's (branded/sim unlocked or not) are unlockable (referring to bootloader).
Maxxd01 said:
Thanks in advance for all helpfull answers.
I just want to understand the following. Some Live's come with "unlock bootloader allowed"="no" others ="yes". What does that means and more important: what are the implications?
I cannot understand the difference because as fair as I understand right now, all live's (branded/sim unlocked or not) are unlockable (referring to bootloader).
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When they come with boot loader unlock : no it is a branded sim locked phone in which case you can unlock bootloader but you will have no access to fastboot meaning you are unable to flash a custom kernel, also there will be no way you can officially unlock the bootloader so will have to use the test point method and of course you will need to pay to fully unlock your phone to be able to access fastboot and flash custom kernels.
Did I miss something??
ginryu said:
When they come with boot loader unlock : no it is a branded sim locked phone in which case you can unlock bootloader but you will have no access to fastboot meaning you are unable to flash a custom kernel, also there will be no way you can officially unlock the bootloader so will have to use the test point method and of course you will need to pay to fully unlock your phone to be able to access fastboot and flash custom kernels.
Did I miss something??
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So, for sim locked branded phones ("no")
- To unlock the bootloader: test point method
- Access fastboot: use (and pay) through wotan server
Am I right? I never though that was two different problems.
Maxxd01 said:
So, for sim locked branded phones ("no")
- To unlock the bootloader: test point method
- Access fastboot: use (and pay) through wotan server
Am I right? I never though that was two different problems.
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I'm not really sure about Wotan server however I'm pretty sure about setool and omnius and if you are willing to pay the phone will be fully unlocked (bootloader, sim and fastboot) with one procedure using the test point method.
ginryu said:
When they come with boot loader unlock : no it is a branded sim locked phone in which case you can unlock bootloader but you will have no access to fastboot meaning you are unable to flash a custom kernel, also there will be no way you can officially unlock the bootloader so will have to use the test point method and of course you will need to pay to fully unlock your phone to be able to access fastboot and flash custom kernels.
Did I miss something??
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So, I'm curious, if I have branded sim lock Live ("no" bootloader) can I install an original firmware without using an official channel? Do I need fastboot access?
I'm asking because I'm almost sure that my carrier will not update the Live to 4.0, so I suppose I have to use some other tool in order to install it.
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So, I'm curious, if I have branded sim lock Live ("no" bootloader) can I install an original firmware without using an official channel? Do I need fastboot access?
I'm asking because I'm almost sure that my carrier will not update the Live to 4.0, so I suppose I have to use some other tool in order to install it.
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you can debrand (install a generic firmware) your phone using wotan server for free and as i know it will also change your product code so next time and official sony update is available your phone will get it.
thancks! its helps...
another noob question from me
can i relock BL from test point method?
n do i have to flash stock kernel before relock?
i'm using rage kernel right now.
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Hi guys,
just a very quick question and my apologies if it's incredibly obvious.
I picked up a 2011 Mini Pro a few days ago as a replacement for my X10 Mini Pro and I love it to bits already. It's time to start looking at installing a new rom or two but I was wondering...if I unlock the bootloader via Sony's website and lose the DRM, what does that actually do?
I'm not worried about losing the TrackID app as that got uninstalled along with all the other bloatware but I specifically don't want SEUS to refuse to update my phone. Especially with the official ICS just around the corner..
Bootloader can be relocked, then SEUS will update your phone.
Unlocking bootloader on unlockbootloader.sonymobile.com will indeed, remove warranty and all DRM keys. Last ones are gone forever.
Currently, we haven't noticed much difference with these DRM keys. Some Facebook in Xperia functions will stop working and so does original TrackID. You can install TrackID from Play Store, then it will work again.
S(M)US, Sony (Mobile) Update Service, will indeed also stop working. Bootloader can be relocked and then it will work again. I can confirm this, as I have updated my phone firmware even after relocking bootloader.
Just if you unlock the bootloader, stay away from OTA(Over The Air, directly from phone via 3G or WiFi) updates, as this does brick your phone(can be unbricked, but better don't do it).
Also, a small note. Unlocking bootloader is the official way, at unlockbootloader.sonymobile.com or via SE Bootloader Unlocking Tool, posted in Development section. These are the same method.
The test point method is not unlocking bootloader, it is patching bootloader as the bootloader will be edited, allowing installation of custom ROMs.
Someguyfromhell said:
Unlocking bootloader on unlockbootloader.sonymobile.com will indeed, remove warranty and all DRM keys. Last ones are gone forever.
Currently, we haven't noticed much difference with these DRM keys. Some Facebook in Xperia functions will stop working and so does original TrackID. You can install TrackID from Play Store, then it will work again.
S(M)US, Sony (Mobile) Update Service, will indeed also stop working. Bootloader can be relocked and then it will work again. I can confirm this, as I have updated my phone firmware even after relocking bootloader.
Just if you unlock the bootloader, stay away from OTA(Over The Air, directly from phone via 3G or WiFi) updates, as this does brick your phone(can be unbricked, but better don't do it).
Also, a small note. Unlocking bootloader is the official way, at unlockbootloader.sonymobile.com or via SE Bootloader Unlocking Tool, posted in Development section. These are the same method.
The test point method is not unlocking bootloader, it is patching bootloader as the bootloader will be edited, allowing installation of custom ROMs.
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That's a very helpful answer, thank you!
I'm not worried about the warranty or the TrackID, it was purely the PC Companion and SEUS updating I was concerned about.
And yes, I know it's not technically SEUS anymore but it's just so much better to say than SMUS or SUS. lol
OTA updates aren't an issue, I uninstalled that app straight away.
Again, thanks for this. I'll head off and unlock my bootloader and see what wonderful rom's this place has come up with.
Hi tickle! Use testpoint method, is way better, you dont have to worry about anything later
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Someguyfromhell said:
Unlocking bootloader on unlockbootloader.sonymobile.com will indeed, remove warranty and all DRM keys. Last ones are gone forever.
Currently, we haven't noticed much difference with these DRM keys. Some Facebook in Xperia functions will stop working and so does original TrackID. You can install TrackID from Play Store, then it will work again.
S(M)US, Sony (Mobile) Update Service, will indeed also stop working. Bootloader can be relocked and then it will work again. I can confirm this, as I have updated my phone firmware even after relocking bootloader.
Just if you unlock the bootloader, stay away from OTA(Over The Air, directly from phone via 3G or WiFi) updates, as this does brick your phone(can be unbricked, but better don't do it).
Also, a small note. Unlocking bootloader is the official way, at unlockbootloader.sonymobile.com or via SE Bootloader Unlocking Tool, posted in Development section. These are the same method.
The test point method is not unlocking bootloader, it is patching bootloader as the bootloader will be edited, allowing installation of custom ROMs.
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about your statement earlier, mind pm me the link that which explain using test point method is actually patching the bootloader. I want to learn about the process. Thanks
Hey guys...just to let you know...I used the testpoint method and Sony said SEUS and PCC will not work...SEUS does! I have repaired my phone a few times...it gets past their security check...best not tell them that, they are convinced SEUS and PCC will refuse me but it's not true! PCC doesn't work anymore, as expected.
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Hey guys...just to let you know...I used the testpoint method and Sony said SEUS and PCC will not work...SEUS does! I have repaired my phone a few times...it gets past their security check...best not tell them that, they are convinced SEUS and PCC will refuse me but it's not true! PCC doesn't work anymore, as expected.
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Sony says that with oficial method, your bootloader os PATCHED with s1tool.
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SharpnShiny said:
Hey guys...just to let you know...I used the testpoint method and Sony said SEUS and PCC will not work...SEUS does! I have repaired my phone a few times...it gets past their security check...best not tell them that, they are convinced SEUS and PCC will refuse me but it's not true! PCC doesn't work anymore, as expected.
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Oh so it does work in SUS. Now they know.
ChavitoArg said:
Sony says that with oficial method, your bootloader os PATCHED with s1tool.
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Ah ha I see. Can I ask about that - will I never be able to use PCC again and can I unpatch/depatch/relock BL if I need to? Thanks
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Ah ha I see. Can I ask about that - will I never be able to use PCC again and can I unpatch/depatch/relock BL if I need to? Thanks
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There is no need to do that, pcc works when he wants even with locked bootloaders.
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Looks like I'm better off patching it. I don't need the DRM but I might at some point in the future.
I was hoping not to do it..my technical skills are basically zero. If you hear a loud bang from the UK, you'll know I've got it wrong!!
Ticklefish said:
Looks like I'm better off patching it. I don't need the DRM but I might at some point in the future.
I was hoping not to do it..my technical skills are basically zero. If you hear a loud bang from the UK, you'll know I've got it wrong!!
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Now I'm really confused. I used Da Vinci unlocking which also patched my bootloader. So...people say it's patch so it thinks it's unlocked, but it's not. For me, PCC doesn't work anymore, just SEUS.
That will give you an idea of what to expect. I don't know if I will ever need to 're lock' the bootloader or not. I have tried the official Sony boot unlocker and it says it cannot lock or relock because it's 'unlocked'.
Is there any unofficial way to unlock bootloader on xperia P,S,U? So if I have to carry it to the service I could relock it again and not lose my warranty
read this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1527159
this is official way...i am looking for unofficial
Its not official way , one of unofficial way. Official way is here http://unlockbootloader.sonymobile.com/instructions
Another very hard method for testpoint method ( u will need to open up ur goodie)
And if u r looking to change unlock status from no to yes.. nothing working at present...
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Its not official way , one of unofficial way. Official way is here http://unlockbootloader.sonymobile.com/instructions
Another very hard method for testpoint method ( u will need to open up ur goodie)
And if u r looking to change unlock status from no to yes.. nothing working at present...
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please read the post of the link that procyon_prowler posted here and you will find on two or three places where it says that it is OFFICIAL way...using the sony webpage...
so that mean I have to gave them my IMEI and by that I completely lose warranty because guys at the service can check and see that i had unlocked bootloader even if I lock it again
Read the comments on page two. Maybe that'll make you understand how the unlocking/locking works.
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Look! I even copied the important part (by bin4ry) for so you don't need to read it all
After relock you can use SEUS / PCC / EMMA again. The imei is used to generate the unique unlock-key. Also it gets stored to check if you claim warranty. Arc has showed us that SE is not denying warranty at all if you unlocked. They just decline it if the cause of the failure is a custom rom etc. pp. for example if you ****ed your cpu with overclocking.
SEUS/PCC/EMMA checks TA area for the unlock key, if it is present it reject the phone and refuses to update. The relock Doom posted here is the same way we worked out on Arc. It deletes the unlockkey from TA and this way you are again able to use SEUS/PCC/EMMA.
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i read that but could not figure out what it means...so if i unlock bootloader there is no way that they can find out that i have unlocked it after i relock it again?
exactly