I am seriously thinking about returning my Sony Tablet S.
I can't seem to get more than 3 hours out of this without a charge.
I play a full movie with wifi/GPS on and then i am down to 30%.
I do have it rooted and most of the bloat apps is gone. I check the battery indicator constantly and the biggest app using battery seems to be android so nothing is zapping my battery life.
Any ideas?
I think something is wrong with you're tablet, mine lasts for more then 8 hours without root.
So yes, return it and ask for a replacement.
bartbla said:
I think something is wrong with you're tablet, mine lasts for more then 8 hours without root.
So yes, return it and ask for a replacement.
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same as that
Try this app
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1024867
If it doesn't work, send to service centre for a check.
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Try and adjust the backlight intensity
When I first used my tablet the battery seemed to be gone in no time. I have found that reducing the backlight manually has helped. I would say there was a definite difference.
Thanks for all the responses.
Problem is this is for my kid. He don't really have the patience to wait for charges every day.
He like to watch movies on the tablet and play some games here and there. Considering he only use it for 3-4 hours a day, this is insane how short the battery is.
I thought i will never say this...but another android guy bite the dust and cross over to the evil apple kingdom (exchanging for the ipad2 with 10 hour battery life).
jxl92182 said:
Thanks for all the responses.
Problem is this is for my kid. He don't really have the patience to wait for charges every day.
He like to watch movies on the tablet and play some games here and there. Considering he only use it for 3-4 hours a day, this is insane how short the battery is.
I thought i will never say this...but another android guy bite the dust and cross over to the evil apple kingdom (exchanging for the ipad2 with 10 hour battery life).
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so we've all told you that it doesn't sound normal and that you should get much longer out of the device and your answer is "it must be android" rather than a faulty device.......
8 hours to 10 hours on mine, depending on what i do. with and without root, it doesn't change my battery life.
Mine about 8 hours
Had the same issue in the past... Delete all on USB and make a factory reset solved the problem. Now it run up to 8 hours.
Schrammi said:
Had the same issue in the past... Delete all on USB and make a factory reset solved the problem. Now it run up to 8 hours.
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Same issue and fix here.
I have decent battery life ( 6+ hours) but one thing that makes me wonder is the idle time.
5 hours of screen time is less power consuming than the tablet being 20 hours in idle. Has anyone the same experience?
Yes. In my case it's the 3G modem. Turn it off generally and only on when you use it.
If I compare this case with my iPad I have to say, that the 3G modem in the sony uses much more energy in idle than in my iPad.
My Tablet is WiFi-only. And WiFi shuts down when the screen goes off.
Battery use:
Tablet idle ------------ 49% --> 15h 8m 57s
Screen---------------- 37% --> 4h 56m 31s
Is this strange behaviour or am I just paranoid since this is a totally different battery usage than on a phone( e.g Sensation)?
Bejtulla said:
My Tablet is WiFi-only. And WiFi shuts down when the screen goes off.
Battery use:
Tablet idle ------------ 49% --> 15h 8m 57s
Screen---------------- 37% --> 4h 56m 31s
Is this strange behaviour or am I just paranoid since this is a totally different battery usage than on a phone( e.g Sensation)?
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I report the same type of stats...
Its using a lot of battery in sleep mode. But sometimes it doesn't, sometimes sleep mode last way longer but most of the time its about 25-30 hours in sleep mode and that is way too much...
I hope ICS will fix this, if not i may return mine.
And not 2g/3g/4g here, no celular radio here.. So, its not that.
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Had the same issue in the past... Delete all on USB and make a factory reset solved the problem. Now it run up to 8 hours.
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USB??? you mean internal SD card (/mnt/sdcard)?
Yes. That's what I mean.
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Hmm. You do realise playing videos and having the wifi on in the background will cane the battery? Even more so if you're streaming said videos to your device via wifi. No doubt you've got the screen turned up full brightness as well?
Mine runs perfectly well and can last for a couple DAYS between charges, depending of course on how I use it.
Follow the tips provided by the others, you might get a fix. If not, get a new one from Sony. It's not a problem with Android - I suspect if you watch hours and hours of movies on an iPad you will still experience excessive battery drain because of the intensive nature of what you're doing!
Thanks for all the suggestions. If the tablet is for me to use daily, I probably would have condition the battery, try to delete all and then restart. However, it is for my kid and frankly it is unacceptable that a brand new tablet after watching one movie (just regular mp4 file i installed into the internal SD) is down to 30% charge.
I won't even start with the rest of the things i am disappointed with; the missing 6 gigs on the 16 gig, the screen little darker than i wanted (the screen protector I don't like at all), and frankly honeycomb in general is not that crispy and well developed.
I did end up getting a Ipad 2. After watching 1 movie, the thing still got 80% juice left....is night and day. Screen is sharper and brighter and most importantly it last more than a day without charge.
I don't want to hype about ipad here and i am still an android fan (i got 2 android phones), but the ipad really is WOW compared to the current corp of android tablets. Yes i am disappointed i won't be able to "tweak" the ipad like i can with droid pads, but Apple OS is so much better developed than honeycomb or ICS for that matter that really you can live without the tweaking.
For all you guys, with Wi-fi only (and 3G if you like the solution), before putting it to sleep put the device in flight mode. I've done it on mine and it was asleep for 4 days while I went out on a journey and when I came back only 30% of battery was gone...
I honestly can only fault the ipad in the sense that a media device, that for all intensive purposes is basically a more convenient option than a laptop, does not have flash support. Quick web browsing on tablets is great but it's useless without flash :S. Damn apple. Other than that I think the iPad is pretty great, especially now that the pricing for the new iPad has become alot sharper than in the price. Obviously to combat the success of Android tablets of late. But all I want out of a tablet is a bit of web browsing here and there, a couple games now and then and a nice digital photo frame to boot
I don't know about everyone else, but I have no desire to flash the crap out of my Sony tablet like I do with my SGS2. Now that I have root access it's doing everything I wanted it to do (and should have done!) from the start. So long is it's stable and responsive I'll be happy with it for a few years at least.
I was never happy with my tablet from day one but for me it was just software - sluggish and app incompatibility - a factory reset and root has fixed all that now. Never once have I had an issue with battery life. Sure as hell out-does any gameboy/ds/psp I've owned. Standby will last weeks if I don't touch it too.
So to those of you getting around 1-2 days standby time, something is seriously wrong with your tablet. There must either be a fault with your battery itself, or some app has gone rogue and just keeps it awake the whole time. i dont think any type of conditioning your battery will heed any results;
I didn't condition my battery at all when I got it and it's just fine. I played it with the 5% charge it had out of box till it died, got home, charged a bit, played with it till it shut off again, then when it got about 1/2 full just took it off charge and played with it again. Now it normally gets charged every friday whether it needs it or not.
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I'm having very poor battery life compared to my samung galaxy tab 10.1 and my motorola xoom
Im getting about 5 to 6 hours of screen on time. Most of the time I browse the web and play some gamesWith the galaxy tab 10.1 I used to get around 10 hours abd wih the xoom about 9.
Is just me or are you having te same problem?
I also can't see the battery usage stats.
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I'm having very poor battery life compared to my samung galaxy tab 10.1 and my motorola xoom
Im getting about 5 to 6 hours of screen on time. Most of the time I browse the web and play some gamesWith the galaxy tab 10.1 I used to get around 10 hours abd wih the xoom about 9.
Is just me or are you having te same problem?
I also can't see the battery usage stats.
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For battery usage missing go here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1424679
For battery drain, are you in balanced power mode? The display would be the next thing I would check. Make sure your do not have the brightness up too high or that new IPS+ brightness feature turned up for outdoor viewing.
im using most of th time nrmal mode and using my tablet indors with low brightness. Can i calibrate my battery or what should I do?
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im using most of th time nrmal mode and using my tablet indors with low brightness. Can i calibrate my battery or what should I do?
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even with low brightness, having it in Normal mode drains the fastest. normal mode is when Prime is running at Max power. combine that with web surfing slot and that's the cause. web surfing puts a strain on battery as its constant using more n more ram n rendering pages, etc.. even so it seems you should be getting better battery life even with that configuration. do you have alot of Widgets set up to update very frequently? do u have your email set up to update frequently? do u have something else rubbing in the background that you're not aware of? all of those things will cause battery to drain faster.
if you want the best battery life and power use balanced mode instead. even in balanced mode, its far more powerful than the galaxy tab or xoom you mentioned. make sure to check for those other things mentioned also. you should get better battery life than that though even in normal mode. you could also decrease the display timeout.
since the normal battery usage setting that shows apps battery usage is bugged in HC in prime, go to the market place. download a free app called Android Assistant. its 18 tools in one. on there it has an app battery usage sections and you can check there to see what's been draining battery the most aside from display. .
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im using most of th time nrmal mode and using my tablet indors with low brightness. Can i calibrate my battery or what should I do?
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plus technically its still too early for battery to be fully broken in and calibrated yet. it has to go through several full charge and discharge cycles before it gets to optimal battery performance.
I'm at around a day on normal with auto brightness. Use it mostly to browse the web and xda. Play a few games as well.
Yeah battery isnt as good as everyone makes it out to be. Since i got it on dec 23rd I have had to charge it up every night.
In the morning its at 100% (10am) then I take it with me to work, usally dont even have time to use it but sometimes i do. On a day that I dont end up using it at work at all, by the time I get home its at 93% (decent for being idle 10 hours, my hp touchpad is around 95% after my 10 hour work day and ipad 2 sits at 99-98%). then i start actually using the device, 10pm - 2am and im down to 50%. This is with very light use, checking email and usally watching a movie on the sdcard. By the time i goto bed its about 20% (3am).
So overall the battery is "OK". Gets about or close to what other tablets are getting in terms of battery life. My ipad 2 gets about 10 hours no matter what i do (gaming, browsing, videos). Asus Prime gets about 7-8 light use (email, sdcard movies, sd music) and about 6 hours heavy use (gaming and browsing).
Settings on my PRIME:
Balanced mode
10% brightness
super IPS + off
GPS off, Bluetooth off.
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Yeah battery isnt as good as everyone makes it out to be. Since i got it on dec 23rd I have had to charge it up every night.
In the morning its at 100% (10am) then I take it with me to work, usally dont even have time to use it but sometimes i do. On a day that I dont end up using it at work at all, by the time I get home its at 93% (decent for being idle 10 hours, my hp touchpad is around 95% after my 10 hour work day). then i start actually using the device, 10pm - 2am and im down to 50%. This is with very light use, checking email and usally watching a movie on the sdcard. By the time i goto bed its about 20% (3am).
So overall the battery is "OK". Gets about or close to what other tablets are getting in terms of battery life. My ipad 2 gets about 10 hours no matter what i do (gaming, browsing, videos). Asus Prime gets about 7-8 light use (email, sdcard movies, sd music) and about 6 hours heavy use (gaming and browsing).
Settings on my PRIME:
Balanced mode
10% brightness
super IPS + off
GPS off, Bluetooth off.
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Well that's over 12 hours which is what the specs list the battery life at without the dock
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Haro912 said:
Well that's over 12 hours which is what the specs list the battery life at without the dock
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So then i guess every tablet can run for 12 hours or more in that case...
The prime is advertised as having 12 hours battery life when your using the device, not in idle... you are obviously trolling anyone that has something bad to say about the prime, Its shameful.
This is with heavy to light use. Wifi it always on. Screen set to auto. On normal mode. I have only charged it when the battery dies completely and don't unplug it until it is at 100% for awhile. There was 1 or 2 times where I charged before it died completely.
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In all honesty, considering how much the device lags at times according to reports, I can't imagine running it in any other mode than Normal. I'd understand if the other modes would be lag-free for light activities like browsing, but they are not. At the moment, Normal is the 'best you get' in a bad situation.
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This is with heavy to light use. Wifi it always on. Screen set to auto. On normal mode. I have only charged it when the battery dies completely and don't unplug it until it is at 100% for awhile. There was 1 or 2 times where I charged before it died completely.
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Umm, I don't know if your aware... but any tablet can do that if its just idle all day like that...
I always drain my tablets once or twice a week till they shutoff and charge them up to 100% and unplug (if you leave them charging over night or drain them to 0% every night it will degrade).
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In all honesty, considering how much the device lags at times according to reports, I can't imagine running it in any other mode than Normal. I'd understand if the other modes would be lag-free for light activities like browsing, but they are not. At the moment, Normal is the 'best you get' in a bad situation.
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this is funny as I run mines in balanced mode most of the time. its always lag free. what reports of lag you speak of? lol even when I put it in battery savings mode its smooth as hell. these so called reports along with others really have people who don't even own device misinformed. most so called reports here on general show device moves fast n smoothly. there has only been 1 video of so called lag in browser and that was trivial. as people thought video didn't really represent what was going on. other than that, there has been no proof of so called lag. especially coming from major reviews before release and after. I've basically used my tab nonstop and have a whole lot of stuff installed on mines with Widgets and live wallpapers and no lag at all what so ever. it'll be different of proof was out there bit there isn't. as far as memory goes funny how some new tabs announced with 2gb of RAM and now suddenly 1gb is not enough or its a little..lol. of course o would rather wish this had 2gb ram tl start off with but it doesn't. from what I can tell it doesn't hamper performance at all and seems to be enough.
ill just end this here. I could go on n on debunking these so called reports but not worth the time. it'll be different if it was a valid argument like GPS. which we know isn't working properly. as far as wifi, lag n everything else goes, its all trivial at best. as my device performs perfectly aside from GPS, which I've never fully tested yet. I'm a good candidate for using the tablet more than most considering use it for work also. so I'm day in and day out on this tablet. even developers who have posted reviews of prime are more than satisfied with performance. tell them the so called reports n see what they tell you in return..lmao
yup horrrible battery life #sarcasm
My battery life is about 6-7 hours so just like in TF101. And it was supposed to be so better....
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Umm, I don't know if your aware... but any tablet can do that if its just idle all day like that...
I always drain my tablets once or twice a week till they shutoff and charge them up to 100% and unplug (if you leave them charging over night or drain them to 0% every night it will degrade).
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Not if you are formatting battery for first few times - it is said to do like this in manual.
Ive heard of people going 32 hours with the dock, so you must be really whipping those 4 cores.
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Ive heard of people going 32 hours with the dock, so you must be really whipping those 4 cores.
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Do not believe this. It depends on how the person count it. I count ONLY the time of "Screen on". Some people makes Prime to sleep for 10 hours + work of 4 hours and they say their primes work for 14 hours
So after using the tablet if in options (battery monitor app) I see 6 hours of display on and I have 3% to go then I can tell my Prime works 6 hours on a single recharge.
That is the way it should be counted. Because you can;t work on tablet when screen is off right? (maybe if you listen to music)
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Do not believe this. It depends on how the person count it. I count ONLY the time of "Screen on". Some people makes Prime to sleep for 10 hours + work of 4 hours and they say their primes work for 14 hours
So after using the tablet if in options (battery monitor app) I see 6 hours of display on and I have 3% to go then I can tell my Prime works 6 hours on a single recharge.
That is the way it should be counted. Because you can;t work on tablet when screen is off right? (maybe if you listen to music)
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And? What's wrong with this? It's normal for webbrowsing.
Well we have different ways of thinking when saying battery life.
I'm always on Normal w/ IPS @ about 20%. I've never had to use Super IPS mode even on a sunny day. IPS to 80-90% in the bright sun and is very lucid (and I live in AZ where we've been having 85 degree weather lately!)
That being said, I get so much out of the Prime and I've only drained it twice. Last night I drained it after 2 days of decent usage and no charging. I've been marathoning 'Homeland' on my laptop and using my Prime for everything else. I'd say I've had about 16 hours of entire usage over the past couple days. I did power the Prime off before sleeping to compare it's percentage loss to when it is asleep to when powered off so perhaps it's not a fair assessment, but I did use it quite heavily including streaming youtube, regular browsing, downloading apps, trying to get a lock on GPS and playing a flash game.
I think we should measure battery life only with screen on time, the problem right now is that the prime doesn't show the battery stats. Anyother way or app to have battey stats?
There's been mixed reviews of battery life in the CM7 rom for the NT as far as battery life is concerned, some are saying they've run it with moderate use since the day it was released and only used about 20 - 30% so far while others are saying battery life is terrible.
SO I thought I'd start a little poll to see what people are getting, I'm guess the battery drain is due to various software being installed so not really the OS's fault.
For me the Battery life is greatly improved over stock, for instance I took it of charge 10 hours ago, it's admittedly only been used for a few minute son and of during those 10 hours but it's lost the grand total of 4% battery in those 10 hours which I consider pretty good really.
Soi lets here what everyone thinks, remember to vote !
Battery life - improved
This is my third day on the CM7 alpha - battery life has been much better than before. Considering I have probably spent more time with the NT turned on over the last couple of days than I normally would, the battery used is less than normal. Previously I would use about 60% of my battery per day. Now I am using 30%-40% - and that includes downloading and configuring many, many applications.
I really think its much better than stock in my cm7 nt
No problems here. Take off charge around 6am and return to charge around 10pm with usually more than 80% left depending on usage.
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I don't think mine has been on a charger for the last 16 hours or so, light usage, wireless has been off most of the time, and I use a task killer to kill things before I turn off the screen. Didn't power off, just put to sleep last night before bed, it's still at like 85%.
So far, it seems better than stock battery life to me, or at least no worse, and I have a lot more apps installed now.
Edit: Internal version.
It might help if folks said if they were running off SD card or internal memory when looking at battery life - I have the impression that the SD card reader on the NT is something of a battery vampire.
Internal CM7 since it was released.
Live wallpaper on Golauncher
wifi set to screen off-off
Brightness at about 60-65%
It's been off of charge for 4 hours 21 minutes this morning and I'm at 96%
Dolphin HD and Gmail have been running all that time.
Hasn't been out for long enough to really tell but my impression is that it's about the same as stock.
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Odd. Is that your aforementioned case with lots of standby? On my Vibrant, the Screen bar generally dwarfs all other bars even with significant standby time. Granted that's an apples-to-oranges comparison... (I don't have CM7 on my Nook Tablet yet - can't do a comparison between stock B&N and my Vibrant at the moment.)
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Odd. Is that your aforementioned case with lots of standby? On my Vibrant, the Screen bar generally dwarfs all other bars even with significant standby time. Granted that's an apples-to-oranges comparison... (I don't have CM7 on my Nook Tablet yet - can't do a comparison between stock B&N and my Vibrant at the moment.)
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Yes. I don't really know what "standby" means. This use was about 40 minutes of checking email, weather news and etc followed by About 2 hours with the screen off then an hour of dinking around. Watched all the superbowl commercials, staying up on XDA and other forums with Tapatalk and learning things in CM7. I'd describe this as light use bordering on moderate.
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Yes. I don't really know what "standby" means. This use was about 40 minutes of checking email, weather news and etc followed by About 2 hours with the screen off then an hour of dinking around. Watched all the superbowl commercials, staying up on XDA and other forums with Tapatalk and learning things in CM7. I'd describe this as light use bordering on moderate.
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Watching video or playing games can be quite intensive. Flash is probably the most intensive for video playing.
Keep a good eye in it over the next few days then cone back and post if you've noticed anything that makes it better or worse with battery life
Last I checked mine was going on 18 hours and at about 40%
One thing I noticed is that the charger for my Moto phone doesn't seem to charge the nook as well as the nook charger. I'll have to look at the nook wall wart and see if it's pumping out more juice. For reference the Moto charger is only 4.33W (5.1V at 850mA).
The nook charger is a 1.8amp charger
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Watching video or playing games can be quite intensive. Flash is probably the most intensive for video playing.
Keep a good eye in it over the next few days then cone back and post if you've noticed anything that makes it better or worse with battery life
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Will do.
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Last I checked mine was going on 18 hours and at about 40%
One thing I noticed is that the charger for my Moto phone doesn't seem to charge the nook as well as the nook charger. I'll have to look at the nook wall wart and see if it's pumping out more juice. For reference the Moto charger is only 4.33W (5.1V at 850mA).
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What kind of usage? Low, high, moderate? Just curious because my wife and I do a decent amount of Netflix (1-2 hours a day) and I don't have to charge more than every 3 days. This is with 1.4.0 rooted. I've been exceptionally pleased with that - power consumption in standby seems to be incredibly miserly with stock (most likely due to WiFi being turned off when the system is in standby).
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Ahh. That explains a lot. Looks like I should pack that in my bag rather than my Moto charger. I wonder if it'll charge my phone faster?
On the subject of the battery, I posted about an issue I encountered last night, here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=22261812
Additional information: At the time, I was fooling around with a playstation emulator, which i'm fairly sure constitutes a heavy drain on system resources. Battery drain seemed appropriate for the level of activity.
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Internal install, wifi off during sleep. Figure the end of the graph was about 19-20 hours or so of sleep. Before that was a constant internet, twitter, WWF session. Screen brightness is in the bottom 1/3rd of the slider.
I am going to beat the hell out of it tonight and will see how the battery holds up. Looks pretty solid just sleeping, so we will see what it can do under load.
So found that if your wireless location is turned on, it will wake your NT about every 5 minuetes. That's not a good thing
If anyone is seeing drains, i suggest using betterbatterystats to help track down the culprit.
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So Im getting horrible battery life with this now. Not really sure whats going on. I use to be able to leave my nook on standby for days and last night it was at about 30% woke up this morning and it was completely dead...
Maybe someone can give some input about the following:
At work we have an iPad 1 and I've been monitoring it's battry drain in standby last week:
Full 6 days standby, with Wifi ON and not used in meantime:
battery went from 58% to 54%.
With my prime I get 2-4% during 1 night!
And that's even with Wifi turned OFF and docked (auto airplane mode app)
The dock looses about 1-2% each night
Why does the iPad have such crazy battery life in standby mode + wifi on? Is it all about good written software (iOS, drivers and apps)? Or is it hardware related? Or both?
In other words: will it ever be possible for an Android tablet to get such great standby time when ICS get more mature? Or is it already possible on other devices and lays the problem within hardware/drivers from Asus?
I really dislike having to use auto airplane mode, because I sometimes have to wait 5-10 second for wifi to get connected and ready. But with wifi turned on, the standby drain is even greater.
This didn't need its own thread. Should have posted it here.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1534039
you might have some wakelocks
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use better batter stats to see what's causing your issue. I get great standby battery life + wifi on. plus 2% drain isn't bad at all in one night. my prime can easily get over 20hrs. on a charge with off and on usage. I get about 10hrs. or so with moderate to heavy usage. about 9hrs. real heavy usage. battery life dependent on several factors. as far as standby goes, like the other poster said, you are experiencing system or partial wakelocks. cutting down the frequency of updates can help or solve this. everytime you asleep and device goes off from a notification, its woke up out of sleep. then eventually goes back to sleep. this is a repeated cycle which causes extra battery drain during sleep. because device never gets a chance to sleep long because its always being disturbed by notifications constantly going off.
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plus 2% drain isn't bad at all in one night.
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I know that my 2% idle drain is quite good regarding to current prime and firmware/drivers, but how can a 2% drain in 8-10 hours be good when the iPad drains only 4% in 6 days (that's 144 hours!!) ?
The difference is HUGE, so that's why I wondered if it's bad coding in Android, drivers, Apps or maybe the used hardware that consumes just quite a lot more than iPad. Is 2% also common with other andoid tablets?
And if it's really software related: can and will it ever be fixed or at least reduced?
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When in standby my prime is always in "deep sleep" and I don't see any interuptions. But I sure will try better battery app.
Then again: this is all with wifi off and iPad had default settings with wifi on and still consumes way less
My ipad 1 have a great standby time too, comparing it to my Prime, My iphone 3gs has great standby time to comparing to my Galaxy Note. BUT it is too bad I didn't buy those stuff to be there looking pretty, I bought them to be able to USE them. If my stuff stays on standby a lot of time, seems like I really don't need it.
On my home network, I get about .3%/hour battery use on standby. I have wifi configured to stay on when the screen is off, and I have a number of apps that synchronize in the background (gReader, TweetCaster, email (X2 accounts), Gmail, a tasks app, calendar, etc.).
The worst standby that I get is on my work network, where I get between .5%/hour and 1%/hour. I believe it's something to do with the router at work, which also causes problems with my HP Envy 14 notebook. Note that the difference in standby life is absolutely consistent and quantifiable.
At .3%/hour, my Prime would last for 333 hours. At .5%/hour, my Prime would last for 200 hours. Worst case scenario is that at 1%/hour, my Prime would last for 100 hours.
Quite honestly, I'll take a Prime that lasts between 100 and 333 hours on standby while running all sorts of useful background tasks over an iPad that last for however long while running few if any background tasks. My Prime is more USEFUL to me that way.
And, even if the iPad runs the same sorts of background tasks that I've described here, 100 to 333 hours of standby is perfectly fine. Is it as good as an iPad? Clearly, not, in this case. But even so, it's also a distinction without much meaning.
why is it that all these people make ****ing mac/ios based threads?
serious if you don't like what you have bought... G T F O
p.s. stop the trolls ok? ipad ****ing sucks and what you claim is total bull**** anyway. 4% in 6days with wifi on dreams are there to be made.
fact: use that ****ty ipad turn on wifi and use it for 6-8 hours.
OMFG WHAT JUST HAPPEND? oh gaws....
now try with the prime
profit.
<edit>the topic of your thread... serious... your talking about 2 devices not even the actual software.. dip****</edit>
/end rage
Even if your using really clear, hard to see, mono filament, trolling is still trolling.
pvdwaal said:
Maybe someone can give some input about the following:
At work we have an iPad 1 and I've been monitoring it's battry drain in standby last week:
Full 6 days standby, with Wifi ON and not used in meantime:
battery went from 58% to 54%.
With my prime I get 2-4% during 1 night!
And that's even with Wifi turned OFF and docked (auto airplane mode app)
The dock looses about 1-2% each night
Why does the iPad have such crazy battery life in standby mode + wifi on? Is it all about good written software (iOS, drivers and apps)? Or is it hardware related? Or both?
In other words: will it ever be possible for an Android tablet to get such great standby time when ICS get more mature? Or is it already possible on other devices and lays the problem within hardware/drivers from Asus?
I really dislike having to use auto airplane mode, because I sometimes have to wait 5-10 second for wifi to get connected and ready. But with wifi turned on, the standby drain is even greater.
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Its not an issue with Android because I can get 2 months on standby with my Nook Color running CM7. The tf201's standby time is likely due to things on the kernel level rather than Android.
dalingrin said:
Its not an issue with Android because I can get 2 months on standby with my Nook Color running CM7. The tf201's standby time is likely due to things on the kernel level rather than Android.
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I was just going to post how crazy my nook color is with power consumption, but thats not the same level of processor that the Prime has.
Not sure if this has already been said? But iOS battery% behave very different than Android battery%. I noticed that when i got my first android device after using an ipod touch for a while. (that was a while ago so maybe things changed with iOS 5x never used that)
The iOS% will kinda adapt to your usage. If you play a 3d game on high brightness the battery% will go down pretty fast, but if you go back to standby they go up again. After some hour of gaming you can be down to 60% but after another one in standby it could go up to 80% again...
In general it feels to me like they lie "a bit". It could very well be that if you used said ipad it would drop to like 30% after 5mins of using. I found the way it behaves very annoying. But as I said that was on my ipod touch, maybe the ipad is different.
Android battery% are much more "direct" but also more accurate in my opinion. With my ipod I never knew how much juice is really left. With my phone or tablet now i know exactly what i can do until it shuts down.
That being said, i'm pretty sure there's still alot of room for improvement with the prime. The software is just an early version basically - all they did up to now is make sure everything works more or less and that its stable for most people. I'm confident the next patch will make things alot better in many aspects.
And i wonder how my prime will be like in half a year with a perfect custom rom
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I was just going to post how crazy my nook color is with power consumption, but thats not the same level of processor that the Prime has.
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That's true, but isn't Teg3 and the new Pad line supposed to be fairly efficient?
With the majority of my time spent at the lowest clocks, the drain I get does seem kind of ridiculous. That opinion stated, here's another: the battery-life on the Prime is still fantastic. I can almost push it an entire work-week on one charge so long as I'm not trying to game or anything, that's a pretty stout stand-by for most electronics. The OG iPad just happens to be so underwhelmingly powerful that its standby is much greater.
I personally believe that to coax away the random locks/reboots they raised the voltage values so that we're drawing unneeded power; however, I for some reason have not ventured into my Prime to see what they have the values set to so I have nothing to back this up. Just a guess.
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I was just going to post how crazy my nook color is with power consumption, but thats not the same level of processor that the Prime has.
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If its truly in standby/sleep then the processor should be essentially off. In the case of the Nook Color the primary CPU can power off entirely.
The issue is the dock, when mines not docked it can idle for over 60 days (according to battery widget app) and when it's docked I lose over 10% a night or more
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The issue is the dock, when mines not docked it can idle for over 60 days (according to battery widget app) and when it's docked I lose over 10% a night or more
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The dock is not the issue, neither is Android and neither is the processor. It comes down to what apps you're running, live wallpapers, radios, etc. Or just good ol' fashioned faulty units...or poorly built ROMs/kernels.
I'm running stock, rooted .15 with performance mode on always. When I wake up in the morning, I unplug my docked Prime before I go to work. When I get home 10 hours later...dock is at 100% and Prime at 99%. That's with dock connected, performance mode, bluetooth wifi and GPS all ON and no "battery saving" apps of any kind running. And that's been consistent for the last two weeks. I DO, however, kill all apps in the recent apps menu. I don't force stop them or anything, just open up the recent menu and swipe them away.
The only time I've gotten battery drain was when I left an N64 emu, an SNES emu, Sixaxis and two other games running in the background. That ate about 10% battery or so in 10 hours.
I left my prime unplugged for 8 hours, wifi on, and it was at 99%. So I don't know what the OP is talking about.
Additionally, iPad doesn't have a good clue as to what real multi-tasking is like, and therefore doesn't update as much because it doesn't have services running in the background.
Android does have services running in the background. Give and take. You want your data always refreshed? What intervals? etc.
That's all configurable, so you really decide how long your battery lasts.
Advice to OP: Read more, get smarter, post less dumb crap.
Hi
I have a question regarding the battery life on the prime.
ASUS advertise up to 12 hours on their website...
I'd expect to get at least half that with normal use..
How long does your battery life last with normal use?
Like ebook/pdf reading, some browsing, some youtubing and maybe some
light gaming?
I dont have much running on mine, i always try to kill backround processes.
I always have it on low brightness and turn the wifi off when not in use.
I usually dont make it much longer that 4 hours with light use... maybe 5 hours.
I use mine mostly for pdf/ebook reading. A little browsing/youtubing here
and there...
Is this normal or do I have a defective unit that I should replace?
Other than this I have no problems with the prime.
gezzybabalula said:
Hi
I have a question regarding the battery life on the prime.
ASUS advertise up to 12 hours on their website...
I'd expect to get at least half that with normal use..
How long does your battery life last with normal use?
Like ebook/pdf reading, some browsing, some youtubing and maybe some
light gaming?
I dont have much running on mine, i always try to kill backround processes.
I always have it on low brightness and turn the wifi off when not in use.
I usually dont make it much longer that 4 hours with light use... maybe 5 hours.
I use mine mostly for pdf/ebook reading. A little browsing/youtubing here
and there...
Is this normal or do I have a defective unit that I should replace?
Other than this I have no problems with the prime.
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My wife and I get about 8 hours heavy use. Video, nook & browsing.
With similar/more usage than what you describe, I get much more than advertised...at 70% right now on performance mode at 7 hours at full brightness with wifi never sleeping. Keep in mind their 12 hours was playing video the whole time. I'm ridiculously impressed so far.
Sent from my Transformer Prime TF201 using XDA
I can't tell you exactly how much I get, because I never got down to under 20%. To be honest I mostly use it with the dock, watching video and browsing outisde (+IPS) on never ran into battery issues after 2-4 hours.
So I never every until now worried about the battery, it was just there.
it really does last quite well, im used to charging my phone up every night and i cant get this thing to drain quickly, i wanted to do some full drain cycles on the battery and it actually took hours and hours to empty it.
you wont be disappointed!
Honestly, coming from an Apple employee, it kicks the iPad's ass not only at battery life, but at charging too. This thing charges in just about the same time it takes to charge an iPhone.
Wow.. 8+ hours... I dont see that happening on my unit.
I think ill try a factory reset and if that doesnt help
I think i'll have to return it for a new one.
Thanks everybody for your comments
I get about 16 to 1 day and 6 hours with the dock (That's using it very wildly, meaning not sparingly).
I surf alot, watch videos, play games, test settings.
I use IPS+ sometimes only but most of the time I have my brightness level on about 70%
Cheers!
Well, just did a factory reset, down 6% already after ~25minutes.
I think i'll see if the store will let me return it because of
unsatisfactory battery life
I get like 6 hours on screen time generally....pretty bad. Probably a lot of bugs to work out with the tegra 3 still, hopefully Asus is working on it. I do not even do anything that intensive, just web browsing, chatting, taking notes, don't even watch videos or play games too often. Battery life would probably plummet if I played games.
NeroDan said:
With similar/more usage than what you describe, I get much more than advertised...at 70% right now on performance mode at 7 hours at full brightness with wifi never sleeping. Keep in mind their 12 hours was playing video the whole time. I'm ridiculously impressed so far.
Sent from my Transformer Prime TF201 using XDA
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Wow.
With the screen on?
Could you possibly take a screenshot of the battery statistics?
I would really appreciate it so i could have something to compare to.
Or even anybody with similar results on their prime?
16,5 hours since charged, and i've got
2h40m Screentime
3h24m WIFI on
61% charged
Usage: Watching a movie, surfing, playing around with the system;-)
Fully charged at 1pm yesterday, after flashing Primulous from cwm touch, i have been benchmarking, browsing, took about 10 min of 1080p video, running wifi analyzers to configure repeater in my house, left on overnight, on balanced mode. Woke up at 5am, have been youtubing, browsing. Its 8:30 and battery just hit 20%
I AM IMPRESSED to say the least, battery life is so good due to running "minimal" when flashing Primulous, wasn't quite this good when on stock, with bloated apps
I have just about every tab on the market in the past 2 years. iPad, iPad2, Transformer w/dock, Acer, HTC Flyer, Kindle Fire, Galaxy tab 7, galaxy tab 10.1 and now the Prime w/dock. The Prime battery outlasts all of them except the gTab for me. I get about 2 days between charges prior to the dock and about 3 with the dock. Stats right now are at 70% tablet 92% dock with 10h 36m on batter and 2 hours of screen on.
With WiFi running at 10h and taking up 81%of the battery. I switched it off this morning to see if I get an improvement since I dont use it and I definitely see a HUGE improvement.
I've always had issues with leaving my WiFi on connected all the time. Lasts about 4-6 hours with WiFi on all the time. Now that I have it on JUST when the screen is on, it lasts about the good 6-9 hours. Anyone having this issue too?
gezzybabalula said:
Hi
I have a question regarding the battery life on the prime.
ASUS advertise up to 12 hours on their website...
I'd expect to get at least half that with normal use..
How long does your battery life last with normal use?
Like ebook/pdf reading, some browsing, some youtubing and maybe some
light gaming?
I dont have much running on mine, i always try to kill backround processes.
I always have it on low brightness and turn the wifi off when not in use.
I usually dont make it much longer that 4 hours with light use... maybe 5 hours.
I use mine mostly for pdf/ebook reading. A little browsing/youtubing here
and there...
Is this normal or do I have a defective unit that I should replace?
Other than this I have no problems with the prime.
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With web browsing, ebook reading, and some YouTube I get 12-14 hours when my screen is set to "power saver" performance mode and with the screen at about 25% brightness. If I have the Prime plugged into the keyboard dock I get 15-18 hours depending on what I am doing.
First thing. Don't kill background tasks. Unless your Prime is seriously suffering performance issues you should ignore any background task that is running. Compulsively killing tasks will actually drain your battery faster. Do you have a lot of apps syncing? Twitter, Facebook, Instagram, etc? If so turn off the ones you don't use often or at least set them to update no faster than once an hour. Also, set the WiFi to turn off when the screen is off, this will improve standy battery significantly.
If you keep getting battery drain, before you return the Prime do a factory reset and see if that solves the battery drain. There could be some system process that isn't ending correctly and keeping the Prime awake. Factory resets are wonders at solving this kind of glitch.
Please post bettery life and please specify the time of the screen on (in Battery settings).
My Prime works about 48 Hours. Screen on about 5 hours.
Screen Backlight about 50% during 2 hours and minimum during 3 hours.
1 Hourse I read. and 4 Hours internet with Google Chrome beta.
What browser eat more power?
i'm really sorry for this but:
hour = 60 minutes of time
horse = the thing you ride or eat
hourse = NO.
On topic: battery life is fine on mine. Really depending on what i do with it. I wrote an essay today with my prime. Constantly writing for 4h with screen on at half brightness, went down to 75%. If i was gaming the whole time it would be down to 30% or something i guess So it all depends on what you do. I think battery is great especially with the dock.
Sorry for my English)))
And what you thing about browser? What browser eat more power?
hm i never tested between browsers, i always use ICS+ browser as it has everything i expect from a browser.
I heard the new firefox is quite good though^^
I've actually been pretty disappointed in my Primes battery life. I had it in the second week that it was out, and I'd almost always get 10-11 hours out of it with the dock.
My usage scenario is usually, a lot of down time, very little video watching and a lot of web surfing/email use and I almost never play games. I've noticed more recently that my battery %'age drops by nearly 10% every half hour. I always have the dock on and if I'm lucky I get around 7-8 hours of use out of it.
Luckily I've never needed it that long in one go, so I've never really needed to carry that cheap quality charger that ASUS provides that's practically fallen apart, even after I took exceptional care of it.
The only saving grace I've had recently with the whole thing is Androwook 2.0; and it is just plain exceptional! No force closes and very very few freezes. Absolutely silky smooth. I was considering selling it before the new tablets came out but this ROM is seriously making me consider keeping this tablet.
klash9 said:
I've actually been pretty disappointed in my Primes battery life. I had it in the second week that it was out, and I'd almost always get 10-11 hours out of it with the dock.
My usage scenario is usually, a lot of down time, very little video watching and a lot of web surfing/email use and I almost never play games. I've noticed more recently that my battery %'age drops by nearly 10% every half hour. I always have the dock on and if I'm lucky I get around 7-8 hours of use out of it.
Luckily I've never needed it that long in one go, so I've never really needed to carry that cheap quality charger that ASUS provides that's practically fallen apart, even after I took exceptional care of it.
The only saving grace I've had recently with the whole thing is Androwook 2.0; and it is just plain exceptional! No force closes and very very few freezes. Absolutely silky smooth. I was considering selling it before the new tablets came out but this ROM is seriously making me consider keeping this tablet.
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Watching Video and Playing actually uses less power than Web Surfing, dont ask me why ^^.
The WiFi is a blackhole of power and eats the battery like theres no tomorrow.
I use my TP for golf GPS in my cart with the dongle, wifi tethered to my phone and the screen always on, brightest setting and I get about 5 hours (maybe a few minutes less) of use before it goes dead.
Wish there was a way to plug the TP in when using the GPS dongle.
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Watching Video and Playing actually uses less power than Web Surfing, dont ask me why ^^.
The WiFi is a blackhole of power and eats the battery like theres no tomorrow.
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True, but I hardly watch any video online at all. Like no Netflix or YouTube...
Infact even the pages I read are usually mostly text, hardly a couple images, and my brightness is in the lower quarter all the time. I usually just open a page and leave it open and use it as a reference while I type on my laptop, or writing or whatever...
It's a bit annoying when my Primes battery % declines at almost the same rate my as power hungry laptop's battery...
I don't think this is for the Prime or ICS:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=16926577&postcount=46476
Wonder if it's the same as Wipe Battery Stats on TWRP...
klash9 said:
True, but I hardly watch any video online at all. Like no Netflix or YouTube...
Infact even the pages I read are usually mostly text, hardly a couple images, and my brightness is in the lower quarter all the time. I usually just open a page and leave it open and use it as a reference while I type on my laptop, or writing or whatever...
It's a bit annoying when my Primes battery % declines at almost the same rate my as power hungry laptop's battery...
I don't think this is for the Prime or ICS:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=16926577&postcount=46476
Wonder if it's the same as Wipe Battery Stats on TWRP...
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Does not matter what you are doing in internet as long as that WiFi is on, and transferring some data it will destroy the battery. Try it out without WiFi and see how long it lasts.
Regarding battery stats... it does nothing. Check this out, directly from Google: http://www.xda-developers.com/andro...-battery-stats-does-not-improve-battery-life/