[GUIDE] 1080P WiFi Network Video Playback Without Root - Asus Eee Pad Transformer Prime

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It appears there is an audio issue with RockPlayer and Hardware Decoding on our device. After contacting the developers, they will be releasing a version with SW audio support while using hardware for video to fix this. Expected within one month. Post will be updated once released.
DicePlayer has been recommended as an alternative as it has HW decode and native SAMBA support, however it does not appear to handle hardware decoding for as many formats as RockPlayer (watch for SW in the upper left).
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Hi all,
While going through the Accessory Guide post (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1377669) I realized there was an odd recommendation on video playback using Emit Free. With our devices there is no need for transcoding like you would have to do on an iPad, but it's still not "easy" to get full 1080P playback over the network.
With root, you can install cifs drivers that are pretty efficient, but without it, many times video stutters. I tested a large combination of File Managers that mounted CIFS/SAMBA shares and Video Players to see which performed best.
From File Manager HD and Astro to MXPlayer and XYPlayer nearly all of them had stuttering issues with 1080P video, and lag when seeking in 720P video. Below is where I ended up, which entailed perfect 1080P playback, with zero lag when seeking (tested on high bitrate MKV and AVI w/ AC3 and DTS audio samples).
1. Install ES File Explorer: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.estrongs.android.pop
ES File Explorer is a file manager that supports CIFS/SAMBA mounts (these are the shared folders on your Windows, Mac, or Linux PC). Once open, swipe right to access the network shares. I recommend turning on "Detail" mode in the settings, so you can see file sizes and permissions, too. The advantage of ES File Explorer over other managers I tried is that the CIFS implementation has been optimized very well, and was the best at streaming the file data to the video player from a speed and bandwidth perspective.
2. Install RockPlayer Lite: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.redirectin.rockplayer.android.unified.lite
RockPlayer is a great player that includes hardware acceleration, much like MXPlayer. The difference here is that like ES File Explorer, RockPlayer seems better optimized for network file handling. With other players in combination with ES File Explorer, there were still lag issues during seek. RockPlayer has none of these issues.
Be sure to enable HW acceleration in Rockplayer
Also ensure app mode is set to "stretched" instead of "zoomed"
Any questions, or other options, feel free to post below.
If this guide was helpful, please click Thanks below instead of replying to keep the thread clean.
Thanks!
Ben

i tried your suggestion.
yeah it gets rid of the lag but:
- there is no sound for most of my hd mkv videos
- subtitles dont show for mkv files
nice to see that the tfp actually does have the power to play these smoothly though!

I have been using ES File explorer and it does help with the streaming. However, I have not gotten a streaming video to play thru the whole movie/show. Seems every 10 or 30mins (differs), it will quit playing. I've tried the same setup on my Galaxy Nexus and don't have issues. I guess I can try Rock Player. I guess no one else has this issue? I've seen it mentioned once or twice while reading the boards but no answers. I thought maybe it was on my end and somehow the wifi was dropping, but if it is...its not displaying it.

I use dice player. It has native ability to open network shares and plays HD MKV files over wifi without lag or stutter.

r0ck0 said:
I use dice player. It has native ability to open network shares and plays HD MKV files over wifi without lag or stutter.
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can it transcode dts audio or any multichannel audio? any program i have tried plays fine but there is no audio

tried it , unfortunally no sound on most of my mkv's.
Dice player does a better job, way more codecs supported and equal network performance, rockplayer seems to build up a bigger buffer, at the beginning it may look like its more stable but after a while both are laging .. (high profile 1080)
what's up with all the lagging ? wifi performance not good enough or is the SOC not capable of streaming and decoding all at once? no problems from sdcard ..

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can it transcode dts audio or any multichannel audio? any program i have tried plays fine but there is no audio
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Dice player works great with mkv movies with DTS and AC3 audio on my TF201. Dice player is the best way to stream movie using a NAS Imo.
tested with dlink dns-323 and stock tf201.

Tempie007 said:
tried it , unfortunally no sound on most of my mkv's.
Dice player does a better job, way more codecs supported and equal network performance, rockplayer seems to build up a bigger buffer, at the beginning it may look like its more stable but after a while both are laging .. (high profile 1080)
what's up with all the lagging ? wifi performance not good enough or is the SOC not capable of streaming and decoding all at once? no problems from sdcard ..
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Wifi performance is the issue for me. If i'm sitting next to the router 1080p plays fine. If I go to other rooms(even adjacent rooms) then it will stutter periodically. It really impairs one of the primary uses that I wanted the Transformer Prime for. As of now I use Plex to transcode to a smaller bitrate

Tempie007 said:
tried it , unfortunally no sound on most of my mkv's.
Dice player does a better job, way more codecs supported and equal network performance, rockplayer seems to build up a bigger buffer, at the beginning it may look like its more stable but after a while both are laging .. (high profile 1080)
what's up with all the lagging ? wifi performance not good enough or is the SOC not capable of streaming and decoding all at once? no problems from sdcard ..
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Interesting, I've had the exact opposite impressions with Rockplayer having more HW decoding support. In any event, I'm stupid for not testing audio.
I've updated the first post based on discussions with the developers of Rockplayer, and will do a re-work of this guide focusing on both solutions once it is released and we can test.
Thanks,
Ben

I haven't tried Rockplayer. However, I get excellent results with Diceplayer. I stream all 720p and most 1080p .mkv using estrongs file explorer. Some 1080p will get lag. Just depends on the bit rate your 1080p video is encoded at, and your WIFI connection speed.
I actually just run an entire home PC with Win 7 Ultimate on it for my movie collection. I just RJ45 it right to my Wireless router. That way I can stream all of my movies to any device in my home. I have quite a few WDTV lives hooked up to all my tv's in my house. So it works out great.
Plus once in awhile If a 1080p video isn't playing well on my prime. I convert it using airvideo. I have airvideo server running on the Win 7 server. (those that have an ipad 2 that is) Have this option. You simply load airvideo on your ipad 2. Select the .mkv you want to convert to .m4v and add it to quere. Airvideo has all the conversion and bitrate methods built in the program. So I don't have to mess with jumping on Win 7 machine. Loading a conversion program and blah blah. I have yet to find an Android program that compares to Airvideo. If someone has suggestion let me know. (Yes, I have tried PLEX). Just can't beat the Live Conversion and simple conversion in Airvideo.

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I have been using ES File explorer and it does help with the streaming. However, I have not gotten a streaming video to play thru the whole movie/show. Seems every 10 or 30mins (differs), it will quit playing. I've tried the same setup on my Galaxy Nexus and don't have issues. I guess I can try Rock Player. I guess no one else has this issue? I've seen it mentioned once or twice while reading the boards but no answers. I thought maybe it was on my end and somehow the wifi was dropping, but if it is...its not displaying it.
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Yeah i get the same thing happening to me randomly.
Using mx player and es file explorer, maybe 15 or 20 mins into watching, the player will just quit by itself. Doesnt happen always though, maybe twice for every 5 vids i play.

Erusman said:
I haven't tried Rockplayer. However, I get excellent results with Diceplayer. I stream all 720p and most 1080p .mkv using estrongs file explorer. Some 1080p will get lag. Just depends on the bit rate your 1080p video is encoded at, and your WIFI connection speed.
I actually just run an entire home PC with Win 7 Ultimate on it for my movie collection. I just RJ45 it right to my Wireless router. That way I can stream all of my movies to any device in my home. I have quite a few WDTV lives hooked up to all my tv's in my house. So it works out great.
Plus once in awhile If a 1080p video isn't playing well on my prime. I convert it using airvideo. I have airvideo server running on the Win 7 server. (those that have an ipad 2 that is) Have this option. You simply load airvideo on your ipad 2. Select the .mkv you want to convert to .m4v and add it to quere. Airvideo has all the conversion and bitrate methods built in the program. So I don't have to mess with jumping on Win 7 machine. Loading a conversion program and blah blah. I have yet to find an Android program that compares to Airvideo. If someone has suggestion let me know. (Yes, I have tried PLEX). Just can't beat the Live Conversion and simple conversion in Airvideo.
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I'm amazed you think going through all that is better than PLEX. With PLEX you just load the app and select the movie... Done. For bonus it also works when you're away from home and want to watch a movie even tethered through 3G

dalingrin said:
I'm amazed you think going through all that is better than PLEX. With PLEX you just load the app and select the movie... Done. For bonus it also works when you're away from home and want to watch a movie even tethered through 3G
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Well, I will try Plex again. I haven't tried it in awhile. Alot of movies I don't have any problem with. Its only the high bit rate 1080p mkv's. I know Plex does Live conversion as well. Perhaps they have improved it since I last used it. One feature i did think was cool with plex was how it catagorized your movie collection for you.

Erusman said:
Well, I will try Plex again. I haven't tried it in awhile. Alot of movies I don't have any problem with. Its only the high bit rate 1080p mkv's. I know Plex does Live conversion as well. Perhaps they have improved it since I last used it. One feature i did think was cool with plex was how it catagorized your movie collection for you.
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Another nice thing about Plex is that you can choose not to do live transcoding and just stream the original video(silly wifi bandwidth allowing). But, that does bring me to my one complaint about Plex. You cannot directly stream the original video if it is mkv, it will always transcode.

In my experience:
If you want to avoid transcoding, then rooting + CIFS support really is the best, most efficient way, imho...plus, you're killing multiple birds with one stone, as file types not recognized by ES or other file explorers that support SAMBA, but which are supported by various apps on your tablet, will still work with whatever app you're using to interact with them.
Otherwise, this guide is good for playback without transcoding for some files. I'm able to stream some of my bluray and HD DVD rips (full bitrate mkv's with no down-sampling, de-rezzing, additional compression or detail removal) without transcoding, but high-bitrate titles such as The Empire Strikes Back hitch frequently. Don't know if that's a limitation of my wireless setup, tho).
On the transcoding side:
Emit free works fine. It's a little easier, imho, to set up remote file sharing that even Plex is, if you have to set up port forwarding manually on your router, as the instructions are pretty explicit about which ports it's using and how to get it set up. And, it's free.
Plex works fine, and cross-compatibility between Ipad and Android on the Plex server side, along with the cataloging, support for file types such as .wtv, and the channels concept, is pretty damn cool imho. You have to look around if your setup falls outside the norm as far as port forwarding manually is concerned, but if you don't experience issues, getting set up with a myPlex account for remote streaming is pretty straightforward. Transcoding looks pretty stellar if you can support anything above 4 mbps on your wireless, and it doesn't take a lot of CPU horsepower to do live streaming, either. I have an older AMD processor in my HTPC, and I stream 1080i .wtv files all day long to both my Prime and my wife's Ipad with no or extremely little stutter, and all my bluray rips play without issue. .WTV files can be played back while they're being recorded, and while watching something else on the HTPC, too...oh, and combine this with a Windows Media Center control app, and you can basically watch live tv on the Prime...just browse the guide, set a show to record, and you can watch it almost immediately in Plex, while it's recording.
Last, but not least, Splashtop THD or whatever the newer version is, actually works pretty damn well on my office rig, which is nvidia-equipped. .wtv files work as well, but you have to set your machine to open them by default in WMP instead of Windows Media Center.

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[Q] 720P playback on G Tablet - Is there a fix to make these videos play correctly?

I just picked up my gtablet yesterday and have been spending my time installing tnt lite and installing several apps. I bought it because when I go on trips I wanted something that could browse the net, and play videos. I installed RockPlayer and put a 720p mkv file onto the machine, however playback is very choppy and its almost like the device cannot handle it. I know that several people have gotten 1080p to work good, and I am wondering if there is a setting that needs to be enabled to make 720p work better? I did some digging and saw that someone said to edit a line in the build.prop file (set the media.stagefright.enable from true to false), but I cannot edit my build.prop file. And I am not entirely sure that this will fix the problem. Are 720p videos playable on this machine?
What profile did you render the movies in? Try changing the MKV extension to AVI... Sometimes some renderers treat containers differently even though they are using the same codecs.
just tried to rename the extension from .mkv to .avi and still same choppiness and eventually the videos stops playing all together. I am not sure what rendering is, but the file is encoded AAC 2.0 H264
h264 is not the issue, it's what profile its encoded in
I have this in my FAQ section (in my sig). h264 is supported, but the Tegra 2 cannot handle h264 encoded in high profile. It can handle main profile.
This is confusing to people. So, what I would recommend is to download the excellent "mediainfo" tool (http://mediainfo.sourceforge.net/en) and it will show you how your videos are encoded.
As for container support, I think MP4 plays a little better than MKV, but Rockplayer (in the Market) seems to be able to handle MKV and using hardware acceleration. Again, as long as it's h264 main profile.
This is not just an issue with the GTab - all the Tegra 2 devices will have this issue as its a limitation of the chipset, or so I've read. Vega, Folio, even the mysterious Adam will probably have this same limitation.
Reference on h264 and main / high profile: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H.264/MPEG-4_AVC
Thank you for clarifying. I am wondering can I convert the video to the main profile and then get it to work?
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Thank you for clarifying. I am wondering can I convert the video to the main profile and then get it to work?
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Yeah, that's the tricky part. I haven't been able to figure that out yet, although granted I haven't put much time into it. I think these "profiles" depend on how you encode and which tool you use.
If you try the Tron Legacy trailers, they are 1080p but main profile. A good example of how nice videos can look on it, when encoded the right way.
I have to play around more with something like ffmpeg to see if I can pin this down. Another reason for transcoding is to keep the sizes down, since we have the 4GB FAT32 file size limitation to deal with. Yuk.
I've incoded a 1080p high profile to main. sound was in and out then tryed a few things and lost sound. Video played great anyways.
I guess it depends on the encode. I dl a 720p music video off of youtube, mp4 avc [email protected] (according to mediainfo) and it plays just fine.
japhule said:
I guess it depends on the encode. I dl a 720p music video off of youtube, mp4 avc [email protected] (according to mediainfo) and it plays just fine.
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Could be a lower screen resolution that full 720p (not all 720p's are alike).
I also read today that Tegra 2 720p should work in high profile, but 1080p definitely does not. But, Android itself might be limiting even 720p, so it's a crap shoot.
Just out of curiosity why do you guys want those big files on here anyway? Is it to output to a TV? I wouldn't think you would need such a high quality file to watch stuff on the G tab.
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Just out of curiosity why do you guys want those big files on here anyway? Is it to output to a TV? I wouldn't think you would need such a high quality file to watch stuff on the G tab.
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It's not about storing large files on the gtab...its more about having video portability. I keep my movies and videos on a server that I stream from my living room and bedroom. It would be ideal if I can play files on any device without having to reencode the video.
I did test 1080p files from YouTube and they did not play (high profile).
Ok, makes sense. I do the same thing using upnplay and my server. Thought you were wanting them on the tablet.
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Just out of curiosity why do you guys want those big files on here anyway? Is it to output to a TV? I wouldn't think you would need such a high quality file to watch stuff on the G tab.
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A two hour 720p movie runs ~4GB, so it's close to the limit in FAT32. And you could easily go over the limit when encoding, which would require you to break the file up. Annoying.
The problem here is that none of the vendors want to agree on a replacement file system for portable devices (wow, no surprise there). MS wants exFAT, the open source community would prefer EXT3/4, and I assume Apple would prefer HFS+.
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Just out of curiosity why do you guys want those big files on here anyway? Is it to output to a TV? I wouldn't think you would need such a high quality file to watch stuff on the G tab.
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Can't speak for everybody else, but for me I'd want to just use the video files I broadcatch from the NNTP groups. Ideally, I wouldn't want to have to reencode video to watch it, just access it directly from my media server. Standard definition avis work okay, but eventually these will not be offered and of course the HD versions look way better. Over the years it's been harder to come by a regular source of SD resolution TV Series feeds. The 720P encoded files quality are noticeable versus SD even on this smaller screen. Ideally we would get high profile 720P MKV at least to work as it seems this is what the guys doing NNTP TV Series seem to be encoding in.
What I would see happening is that a video player on the GTablet will access the files off the media server and stream, not play files directly off the local Internal SD. Regardless of where the file resides, it looks like it needs to be refined to play these files more fluidly.
I'm not saying this will be the only nor primary method of viewing video files, but having the flexibility and option is always nice. Especially when all the tvs are watching something else. ;P
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Can't speak for everybody else, but for me I'd want to just use the video files I broadcatch from the NNTP groups. Ideally, I wouldn't want to have to reencode video to watch it, just access it directly from my media server. Standard definition avis work okay, but eventually these will not be offered and of course the HD versions look way better. Over the years it's been harder to come by a regular source of SD resolution TV Series feeds. The 720P encoded files quality are noticeable versus SD even on this smaller screen. Ideally we would get high profile 720P MKV at least to work as it seems this is what the guys doing NNTP TV Series seem to be encoding in.
What I would see happening is that a video player on the GTablet will access the files off the media server and stream, not play files directly off the local Internal SD. Regardless of where the file resides, it looks like it needs to be refined to play these files more fluidly.
I'm not saying this will be the only nor primary method of viewing video files, but having the flexibility and option is always nice. Especially when all the tvs are watching something else. ;P
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Okay I'm doing the Madagascar penguin "you didn't see anything gesture" now. LOL.
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japhule said:
It's not about storing large files on the gtab...its more about having video portability. I keep my movies and videos on a server that I stream from my living room and bedroom. It would be ideal if I can play files on any device without having to reencode the video.
I did test 1080p files from YouTube and they did not play (high profile).
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Can you please share how you are thinking about doing that using movies/pictures/videos on Windows Media Center share or NFS mount.
I tried very same thing as some of my movies still in vob format or mpeg2 (home recordings of kids), tv recordings using microsoft format or streaming pics, and nothing seems to work. I was able to use upnpplay (android program in the market place) to browse my stuff on the shared drive, but can't play mpeg2, vob or other format.
does anyone know what's the best way to do this?
G Tab supports H.264 1080p main and high profiles
Detailed specs on what Audio and Video formats G Tablet supports are listed in the manual downloadable from the Viewsonic web site.
But in a few words - it does support up to 1080p, both baseline, high, and main profiles for H.264 with certain limitations for each, and MPEG4 simple profile.
rob_z11 said:
Can you please share how you are thinking about doing that using movies/pictures/videos on Windows Media Center share or NFS mount.
I tried very same thing as some of my movies still in vob format or mpeg2 (home recordings of kids), tv recordings using microsoft format or streaming pics, and nothing seems to work. I was able to use upnpplay (android program in the market place) to browse my stuff on the shared drive, but can't play mpeg2, vob or other format.
does anyone know what's the best way to do this?
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My entire system is redundant. I have my windows 7 share as well as my htpc/nas running tversity, orb and audiogalaxy (music only). Everything is shared in every way. First I try just streaming the file through Windows 7 dlna, which generally works fine. I too use Upnplay. If something doesn't work (very rare) I move to looking for it through Tversity which attempts to detect the dlna device and scale it so it works. I've never needed to use Orb on the GTab since I really got everything up and running, Orb is for when I actually am on the road and want to watch sth. from my home network. PlayOn may actually work as well - it has a free mode which allows you to use it to share files on the local network using VLC codecs.
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I'd like to add to this conversation with, I hope, clarification of how to get higher definition video playback working on the GTab.
I've tried four video files that are 720P or 1080P. None of them works well in Movies, DoubleTwist, Rockplayer, or VitalPlayer.
G Tablet, TnT 4.21, OE kernel. Market fix. Various apps.
Videos all playing from /SDCARD
Here is some more information about those videos, using Mediainfo:
Touring Car race:
720P MPEG-4 50FPS AVC ([email protected]) (CABAC / 3 ref frames)
AAC Stereo
Big Buck Bunny:
http://www.bigbuckbunny.org/index.php/download/
1080P OpenDML AVI 12Mbps 24FPS MPEG-4 Visual ([email protected])
AC-3 audio
Audi R8:
720P AVC Matroska 800Kbps 29.970FPS AVC ([email protected]) (CABAC / 2 ref frames)
AC-3 audio
Donington LG demo:
1080P BDAV M2TS 35.5Mbps 29.970fps AVC ([email protected]) (CABAC /3 ref frames)
AC-3 audio
Are all of these simply too much for me to get away with playing on the GTab? I've played most, if not all of these, using a Broadcom 70012 Crystal HD decoder card on a Dell Mini 9 (Atom N270) with few problems.
Thanks for the help.

[Q] Recommendations for Streaming/Transcoding video to the Nook Color?

I've been looking for the best way to transcode and stream video from my file server to my Nook Color. (using handbrake to encode video for local playback works great... but until they sell 5 TB sdhc cards that's not going to cut it )
VLC Stream and Convert works (for every kind of file I've thrown at it... which is no surprise, VLC can handle anything pretty much).. but I haven't been satisfied with the quality. (and I've played with the h265 settings quite a bit). Does anyone have recommended settings for this app?
Also, I have Tversity... but I can't get it to work for all my videos yet.... Has anyone successfully configured Tversity to work with their Nook Color?
Are there any other solutions for this that anyone might recommend?
Thanks
Ive gotten PS3 media server to work with the nook. Its pretty similar to Tvsertity. Install UPnPlay on your Nook and try to access your Tvsertity server. It'll forward the stream to your player of choice (Rock player, etc.)
Only issue I've noticed is with files > 1gb.
has anyone tried twonky? i use it on my epic to stream from my server to phone... it will browse shared files on network and playthem.. or vise versa it can stream from phone to network... next time i have a nook here i can try it myself, but it is a free app so might be worth a shot to see if it will install and run on nook.
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.pv.twonkyremote
Subsonic is quite good. It allows you to stream music and videos, however it requires flash to stream videos so I'm not sure how well it works on CM7. It is also not free.
VLC Convert and Stream is the only program I've found that will stream all of the file types I have on my computer. Everything else you'll have to transcode non compatible files first, which may not actually be that bad if you have plenty of storage space and/or you only have a few files that need to be transcoded.
I have my convert and stream playback on phone settings set to 480 width with highest bitrate selected (I don't have pro version, I think you can get up to 640 width with that) and playback settings set to fit to screen so that the videos expand out. I get a few artifacts here and there but the quality is pretty good considering it's over wireless. Biggest problem I had was getting the sound sync'd up, that required some playing around with the delay settings as it was pretty far off at first. Do you have the pro version? That allows higher resolution and possibly higher bitrate (but I'm unsure on the bitrate). When I watched 720p source videos, it looked pretty good.
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Thanks - downloading it from the app store now. I have 2.3.3 running (CM7). I will let you know how it goes. So far nothing else I've tried has worked ;(
I love this app. It works well over home WIFI, but for the life of me I cant get it to connect outside of my home network.
What port forwading settings would I add to get this to work? Wouldnt the rest be the same since at home I use internal IP, outside of home I use external IP? Then forward external IP to the internal one previously set up? Kind of new at this, I've set up live streams before, but cant remember and troubleshoot this properly.
Any help is greatly appreciated.
Edit 2: I have followed the directions for VPN and 3G methods but for some reason it wont connect.
Edit 3: Got it working, was missing a single digit in one of my forwards.
I recently tried Plex. That is an exciting app. I love the interface.
The only issue is that even though the streaming works, when I used it over my wifi the playback was laggy (even with overclock). I tried changing the settings and lowering the quality, but it still lagged.
poofyhairguy said:
I recently tried Plex. That is an exciting app. I love the interface.
The only issue is that even though the streaming works, when I used it over my wifi the playback was laggy (even with overclock). I tried changing the settings and lowering the quality, but it still lagged.
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I noticed this with Plex as well. I already use it on my Galaxy S and it plays beautifully, but the NC seems to lag no matter what.
HOWEVER, the same video played over subsonic at maximum quality (Transcoded as .flv and embedded in the browser as a flash video) plays surprisingly well.
Any more knowledgeable members know why that is? I can't seem to figure out why.
I watch 720p mkvs transcoded over 3g running cm7 on my nc with no problems using subsonic. Best option I have found. Server is on a ubuntu 10 machine.
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DLNA
I've been able to use Skifta with RockPlayer or Vplayer to stream from my Windows 7 box (since DLNA is built in). You need a separate video player app in CM7 currently since most codecs have been removed until they get DSP working.
dinobud said:
I've been able to use Skifta with RockPlayer or Vplayer to stream from my Windows 7 box (since DLNA is built in). You need a separate video player app in CM7 currently since most codecs have been removed until they get DSP working.
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Skifta worked for me first time!
Thanks for pointing me in the right direction
Qloud Media has worked well for me. It's extremely simple to set up.
https://market.android.com/details?id=mobi.qiss.vega.ad
For dlna streaming on my phone i use imediashare and it works perfectly so maybe give it a try on the nook color.

[Q] How do you stream your movies?

I have tried literally all the method I could find online. Plex,Xmbc, UpnP+Mobo. They all work but not perfectly. I dont know why its so hard for me to stream 720p movies...from what i read it works flawlessly for everybody..I have cable internet 15mbps and a D-Link dualband DIR-825 router with n-wifi and all that stuff. Can someone help?
I use Pogoplug. It's a $49 device I got at Best Buy that streams flawlessly. I do convert them down a little using Handbrake before I put them on Pogoplug.
ES file explorer streams now ?!
I use the free add supported version of emit
https://market.android.com/details?id=tv.wpn.biokoda.android.emitfree&feature=apps_topselling_free
it picked up my network with no issues and even over a weak connection it streams with almost no issue.
I setup a webserver(subsonic) on my desktop at home, downloaded the app for the tablet and it works fine. It streams music through the app and the movies it uses a flash player that loads in your browser. Works well.
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I have tried literally all the method I could find online. Plex,Xmbc, UpnP+Mobo. They all work but not perfectly. I dont know why its so hard for me to stream 720p movies...from what i read it works flawlessly for everybody..I have cable internet 15mbps and a D-Link dualband DIR-825 router with n-wifi and all that stuff. Can someone help?
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1) Do you have any issues with streaming lower-res media? You specifically mention 720p.
2) Are you able to play the EXACT SAME 720p content fine from local storage?
Not all 720p is created equal. I always encode to baseline profile and it works great from local storage, but I hear higher bitrates at main/high profiles can be problematic.
if your video doesnt play get Handbrake + this perfect preset
and you're good to go !
i encoded some 1080p video last night with it ... ==> wonderful !!! it encode in the same original resolution and the tab can still play !
ES File Explorer is the best option so far. Still not flawless but yes it works.
Even this isnt working for me :S I tried both Medium and High Profiles in the settings menu..there is a pause every minute or so during playback..seems like a buffering issue
this is what i could do with the preset
http://www.mediafire.com/?oc21u51qk2xv3a6
stream with ES Files explorer or copy via usb
read with Stock Touchwiz player !
I copied the exact same file to my tab. Playback was smoother, watchable but I wouldn't call it perfect. Good point. A lot of the apps have been working fine for most users(for hd movies). I am just thinking if there's something wrong with my Tab.
The vid works flawlessy. But if I were to encode all these movies it would take ages lol. I started Inception using the present you gave me.2 hours later only 20% :S At this rate I'll give up watching movies lol I continue to find a better solution for myself. Will post details
jeandujardin01 said:
if your video doesnt play get Handbrake + this perfect preset
and you're good to go !
i encoded some 1080p video last night with it ... ==> wonderful !!! it encode in the same original resolution and the tab can still play !
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Hmm, resolution limitations must not have been saved in the preset. The preset SHOULD limit the horizontal resolution of the output video to 1280 and vertical to 800 - there's no point in it being higher than the native resolution of our tabs.
datapunkk said:
The vid works flawlessy. But if I were to encode all these movies it would take ages lol. I started Inception using the present you gave me.2 hours later only 20% :S At this rate I'll give up watching movies lol I continue to find a better solution for myself. Will post details
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Details?
Was your source media bluray or DVD?
What CPU do you have?
I have a Core 2 Quad Q6600 - fairly old by today's standards. It can usually do DVDs a reasonable amount faster than realtime, 1080i MPEG-2 source media (e.g. HDTV recordings) in around realtime, and Blu-Ray source media in around 75% realtime.
However, my preset posted and linked to above SHOULD be limiting resolution as I said before. If it's encoding 1080p output, it's going to be a LOT slower.
I usually just enqueue a bunch of encodings before bed, then sleep.
My CPU is older than yours which explains why encoding is almost impossible. i have a core 2 duo 2.3 ghz cpu. 4gb ddr ram. Im just annoyed because Plex seems to work for most people but not me. i dunno.l if its the tab or my computer. Es File explorer so far has proved to be the best method.
Why streaming if you can directly play from your tab?
Just mount the folder with video to your tab (e.g. using Mount Manager, must be rooted) and play files with Moboplayer (works best for me). The player thinks that the file is on your device and plays it without buffering or lagging. Everything up to 720p videos works great over wifi. And there's no point watching 1080p videos on 1280x800 tab - better take a big tv with nice audio system and relax
I stream with TVersity and then put in the address in my browser. Use stock honeycomb player to view. No problems yet.
Oh, for files that don't play, I just open with VPlayer.
Played it on my Galaxy Tab 7". Nice quality video and audio. No jerkyness and very high resolution. My daughter loves it. Wants me to play it several times.

Streaming movies remotely

This is for those of us that are like me and don't have a server deicated to there movies, music, tv shows, etc.
I was looking for a way to stream all the movies that I have on my desktop to my Prime when I am either home or away. I stumbled upon Skifta. Skifta is a program you run on your computer that will let you stream movies to/from any upnp/dlna device. Worked really well last night when I was testing it. I streamed day breakers from my computer to the Prime and played it in Dice Player. The picture quality was perfect. Like I was watching it on my computer. Sound was typical Prime sound. What really surprised me was how long it took to start the movie with load times and such, it was fast as hell. I click got a little buffering icon for about 30 seconds and then it was playing. Granted this was on my own wifi and I haven't tested elsewhere yet but it seems promising so far
Links:
Skifta For your phone
Skifta For your computer
Is it Free?
MrCapcom said:
Is it Free?
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Yeah
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Can you play mkv and avi files from it? If so im downloading now!
MrCapcom said:
Can you play mkv and avi files from it? If so im downloading now!
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The movie I watched was mkv with subs. Works flawlessly.
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I haven't tried an avi yet.
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The best app for streaming is PLEX hands down, streams anything you throw at it, wifi or 3g. great interface and pretty easy to setup. Android app costs $5 but definately worth it. Nothing else compares. I tried Skifta myself in the past but could never get it to work consistently outside my own wifi network.
i prefer VLC pro myself. plays anything and everything, and all you have to do is enable the Web Interface setting on VLC on your PC.
highly suggested to anyone who actually uses VLC on their PC.
Using windows media player to share your files, combined with "mynet" or whatever app it is that comes with the prime is all you need.
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Plex without a doubt
chrisaba1 said:
The best app for streaming is PLEX hands down, streams anything you throw at it, wifi or 3g. great interface and pretty easy to setup. Android app costs $5 but definately worth it. Nothing else compares. I tried Skifta myself in the past but could never get it to work consistently outside my own wifi network.
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Plex is the best option. It is worth the $4.99 investment. You can use it for all forms of media and file types.
PLEX.......
Definitely looking for something like this. I have a WHS that is loaded with blu-ray movies. Will either of these play ISO files? I have My Movies installed on my home server so the files are ripped into iso.
smashingtool said:
Using windows media player to share your files, combined with "mynet" or whatever app it is that comes with the prime is all you need.
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Does mynet work outside of your wifi?
Any recommendations for streaming (off network) Video_TS/VOD movies? It looks like plex does not support it...
+ 1 for plex
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When I get a chance I'll post my round up of over 20 applications I've tested for this purpose. Plex is towards the bottom of the list.
As a quick summary the two best are :
Qloud Media (free version also available, ad supported)
Lightweight/simple to use server
Supports multiple MKV audio tracks (choose before video playback)
Works with every video I've thrown at it
Remembers last folder browsed
Remembers last video location
Works with MKV embedded subtitles and SRT subtitles
Video quality is very good at higher bitrates. Bitrates are customizable (I recommend 3072 for WiFi Connections).
Very stable over low bandwidth 3G, streamed an entire 1080p movie over a ****ty Sprint connection that topped out at 350 k/b (player set for 250/kb streaming) with no problem.
Includes photo and mp3 streaming, both work great
Has a weird quirk that requires you to press the "play" button after using the seek bar on the video client.
Ability to setup multiple users/allowable shared folders
Only requires one TCP port forward for direct remote connection
Server component available only for Windows
Emit (free version also available, ad supported)
I actually found out about Emit after evaluating Qloud, it's probably my #2 choice under Qloud Media. Their featuresets are very similar and I'm betting they're based on similar technologies. I actually bought Emit too because I like the ability to stream via a PC web browser via the Emit web app. On higher end devices capable of high bitrates/resolutions Emit can produce better video quality than Qloud.
If I could only pick one video streamer to purchase I would still pick Qloud Media, the server and client are simply more stable (especially over 3G) and mature (Qloud client shows video thumbnails in the file browser and remembers last folder/video location between restarts). The Qloud photo viewer is a nice added bonus I actually use. On Emit one video I tested had no audio, restarting playback seemed to fix it, starting it again later had the same issue (may be a tablet issue). So if you get no audio try restarting playback.
Lightweight/simple to use server component
Capable of producing best video quality of all streamers tested
Video frame rate seemed a bit choppier when compared to Qloud
Can be very CPU intensive on the server side
Works with every video I've thrown at it
Works with MKV embedded subtitles and SRT subtitles
Supports multiple MKV audio tracks (single button switcher in video player)
Video quality is excellent at higher bitrates. Bitrates and resolution are customizable.
Includes MP3 streaming capability
Playback on PC via web client/Flash
Ability to pre encode video files for later download
Remote direct connection requires one TCP port (http streaming), UDP port range forward for RTSP fallback support (port numbers not customizable, what If I want to run multiple Emit servers?)
Server component available for Windows, MAC and Linux
Awesome info TalynOne, thanks! I tried Plex and since the folder I want to stream has many subfolders that change often it doesn't seem to be the app for me.
TalynOne said:
When I get a chance I'll post my round up of over 20 applications I've tested for this purpose. Plex is towards the bottom of the list.
As a quick summary the two best are :
Qloud Media (free version also available, ad supported)
Lightweight/simple to use server
Supports multiple MKV audio tracks (choose before video playback)
Works with every video I've thrown at it
Remembers last folder browsed
Remembers last video location
Works with MKV embedded subtitles and SRT subtitles
Video quality is very good at higher bitrates. Bitrates are customizable (I recommend 3072 for WiFi Connections).
Very stable over low bandwidth 3G, streamed an entire 1080p movie over a ****ty Sprint connection that topped out at 350 k/b (player set for 250/kb streaming) with no problem.
Includes photo and mp3 streaming, both work great
Has a weird quirk that requires you to press the "play" button after using the seek bar on the video client.
Ability to setup multiple users/allowable shared folders
Only requires one TCP port forward for direct remote connection
Server component available only for Windows
Emit (free version also available, ad supported)
I actually found out about Emit after evaluating Qloud, it's probably my #2 choice under Qloud Media. Their featuresets are very similar and I'm betting they're based on similar technologies. I actually bought Emit too because I like the ability to stream via a PC web browser via the Emit web app. On higher end devices capable of high bitrates/resolutions Emit can produce better video quality than Qloud.
If I could only pick one video streamer to purchase I would still pick Qloud Media, the server and client are simply more stable (especially over 3G) and mature (Qloud client shows video thumbnails in the file browser and remembers last folder/video location between restarts). The Qloud photo viewer is a nice added bonus I actually use. On Emit one video I tested had no audio, restarting playback seemed to fix it, starting it again later had the same issue (may be a tablet issue). So if you get no audio try restarting playback.
Lightweight/simple to use server component
Capable of producing best video quality of all streamers tested
Video frame rate seemed a bit choppier when compared to Qloud
Can be very CPU intensive on the server side
Works with every video I've thrown at it
Works with MKV embedded subtitles and SRT subtitles
Supports multiple MKV audio tracks (single button switcher in video player)
Video quality is excellent at higher bitrates. Bitrates and resolution are customizable.
Includes MP3 streaming capability
Playback on PC via web client/Flash
Ability to pre encode video files for later download
Remote direct connection requires one TCP port (http streaming), UDP port range forward for RTSP fallback support (port numbers not customizable, what If I want to run multiple Emit servers?)
Server component available for Windows, MAC and Linux
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Would you mind if I put this in the OP?
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Haro912 said:
Would you mind if I put this in the OP?
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Sure, go ahead.
What does it mean to "stream"? I have a server in my home that holds all my media, pictures, movies, documents, ya know everything. I downloaded the app ES File Explorer (free) and used the LAN mode to find my server, which listed all my shares. Navigate through the folders, find a movie I want to watch (AVI, MKV, WMV, MP4, WMV, etc) and click on it. Plays fine with MX Player. I didn't need any "streamer" software running on my PC or anything else running or to install. Why doesn't everyone use a method similar to this? I don't see the advantage to have to install additional streaming software on a PC to access media. Anyway, just curious.

[Q] Supported HD Video?

I copied a couple of 720p videos to my Galaxy Tab 10.1. The native video player says it can't play them. I tried a couple of other video players that generally do a good job and were able to play them using software decoding, but one had a really poor frame rate, the other ran in super slow motion.
Seems like the hardware isn't up to software decoding HD video and hardware decoding is finicky about formats?
These movies were both mpeg4 video, aac audio in a mp4 container.
When I copied them over it offered to convert them for me, but if I let it do so it seems to be very slow and would take over 9 hours. I'm sure I could do better using handbrake or something similar to recode as necessary.
But can someone summarize the requirements to get hardware accelerated decoding (or sufficiently fast software decoding) of 720p/1080p video?
Thanks.
Did you try Diceplayer and BS Player? Both are available from the Market for free (ad supported) and played all my 720p videos (most were .mkv).
I'd suggest giving them a try (you also have to download the tegra2 plugins for both players).
As for 1080p its a far cry - depending on the specific encoding options it might work fine or be really crappy. Best bet would be to re-encode the 1080p videos you want to watch on your tab, but 720p is usually manageable (and more then enough for our tab, since it's basically the resolution of our screen)
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Did you try Diceplayer and BS Player? Both are available from the Market for free (ad supported) and played all my 720p videos (most were .mkv).
I'd suggest giving them a try (you also have to download the tegra2 plugins for both players).
As for 1080p its a far cry - depending on the specific encoding options it might work fine or be really crappy. Best bet would be to re-encode the 1080p videos you want to watch on your tab, but 720p is usually manageable (and more then enough for our tab, since it's basically the resolution of our screen)
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I like how they say the tab can handle 1080p video's, But forgot to mention "it would lag like ****" Youtube apparently get's played in 720p HD whereas getting a 1080p video to play is far from possible, perhaps ICS would make it possible, for now the stock decoders are horrible, HORRIBLE. Use the stock Movie Player/Video and it's like watching Lego or Minecraft graphics. Dice Player Ad is the best out there, and the only video player I use.
Just don't forget to download the Tegra2 plugin with it (Free ofcourse).
Thanks guys. I'll give Dice Player a try and see if it does a better job. I don't usually use 1080p so as long as it can decode 720p smoothly I'd be happy.
From what I've read, it seems that Tegra 2 can't decode Mpeg4 High Profile, which probably explains why the videos I tried don't work well. I'll also try recoding them with standard profile and see if those work. But apparently, most HD video (including commercially downloaded video) is high profile encoded so the fact that the Tegra 2 can't decode those is rather pathetic. I don't want to have to code/recode everything specifically for the tablet so that's rather disappointing...
OK, gave those a try:
BS Player: Slow Motion...
Dice Player: BRILLIANT! Works perfectly!
Thanks for the tip!
tmagritte said:
OK, gave those a try:
BS Player: Slow Motion...
Dice Player: BRILLIANT! Works perfectly!
Thanks for the tip!
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Hence the name, BS player' It's BS cause they wanna market their stuff and make people pay, Their software acceleration is horrible. Dice player uses HW Accelerator which is why the video's are intensely smooth.
Misledz said:
Hence the name, BS player' It's BS cause they wanna market their stuff and make people pay, Their software acceleration is horrible. Dice player uses HW Accelerator which is why the video's are intensely smooth.
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BS player also uses HW acceleration. In my experience it worked fine with most video - it has some problems in the first few seconds which Dice doesn't (since it doesn't start the video until it's loaded) but after it "warms up" it seems to work just fine for most of the stuff.
BS Player has some nice extra features like LAN mode, automatic subtitle downloading etc. But yeah, Dice player is usually better for playing movies "locally" (I'm using CIFSmanager to mount my media folder over wi-fi).
Every now and then you come across videos that Dice has problems with however, and then BS usually works (once I had a video that played at like double speed in Dice player, while the audio was normal speed. Changing the 1.0x 1.5x etc. speed settings on the right had no effect. BS player helped then ), so I keep both on my device.
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BS player also uses HW acceleration. In my experience it worked fine with most video - it has some problems in the first few seconds which Dice doesn't (since it doesn't start the video until it's loaded) but after it "warms up" it seems to work just fine for most of the stuff.
BS Player has some nice extra features like LAN mode, automatic subtitle downloading etc. But yeah, Dice player is usually better for playing movies "locally" (I'm using CIFSmanager to mount my media folder over wi-fi).
Every now and then you come across videos that Dice has problems with however, and then BS usually works (once I had a video that played at like double speed in Dice player, while the audio was normal speed. Changing the 1.0x 1.5x etc. speed settings on the right had no effect. BS player helped then ), so I keep both on my device.
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I would love to know how to get CIFSManager to work, Would be epic to sync music folders via Wifi without having to copy/update it often
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I would love to know how to get CIFSManager to work, Would be epic to sync music folders via Wifi without having to copy/update it often
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A simple search: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1468498&highlight=cifs .
Basically, you have to push the cifs.ko module and then insmod it. Some ROMs (like the 3G ICS KANG) have the module included in the appropriate folder, so you can easily just modprobe it (open terminal: write "su" and then "modprobe cifs").
Then you just install CIFSmanager and set it to the appropriate IP/folder (for instance something like 192.168.1.42/Media - this would go to the comp at 192.168.1.42 and try to load up the shared folder with the name "Media").
You'll probably want to set up your router so it always gives the same IP to your media computer, as you don't want to check it's IP and change the settings every time
PS: Using cifsmanager is not without it's downsides though. I've noticed that if I turn off the wi-fi without first unmounting through the manager, the tab freezes (for about half a minute or so) when you try to show the folder containing the networked files. Mind you, I say show, not open - even just trying to see how many files are inside can lock it.
I worked around that by creating a CIFS folder on the root of the "sdcard", then extra folders inside CIFS for each mount. So I have /sdcard/CIFS/XBMC and /sdcard/CIFS/Music. Now I can safely look at my /sdcard folder without my tab freezing up (if I forget to unmount) - but if I try to open the CIFS folder it'll freeze up for a bit, then it'll give me the option to kill my file manager.
So basically, don't put the folder into which you'll mount directly on the root of your sdcard, or it'll become unusable if you forget to unmount

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