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My wife and I had Motorola XT720s and her USB borked out the other day. Our carrier replaced hers with a Vibrant and sent her on her way. Needless to say, she liked the XT720 and wants me to take the Vibrant. Since we have been on the most unholy of manufacturers (locked bootloader and no updates-yep was sold and bought on 2.1 [eclair kernal] over a year ago) I have been maintaining both our phones. We have successfully upgraded our phones to 2.2, miui, CM6/7 all with the locked bootloader and a little erseverance and a lot of adb learning.
My question is what can I do with the Vibrant and what are the better ROMs that you have? I am not affraid to get into the guts of the phone and work from that way. She just got it yesterday and when I got home, she pitched the switch to me, so this weekend, I'll root it, back up and then checkout the forums to see what is what.
Good ROMs/ Kernals (stability v experimental)?
Overclocking?
How to unlock the bootloader? I kow how on Nexus S but that is not this obviously.
Known issues with the phone in general, either software or hardware (i.e power button breaks after 2 mos. Stuff like that)
I already looked at the sticky nOOb guide for rooting. Is that update.zip the best way. Or should I use z4 or Superoneclick? I used Universal Androot before but that doesn't support Froyo kernals.
Basically, what do you like and and your opinions. The decision will be mine but I like to be informed. And I actually do like to read the threads, but we just got this yesterday and wanted to put out the feelers.
Thanks to all for your help and I look forward to the responses.
first, if your hardware locked, youre gonna havr to find the thread on how to unlock... do this FIRST.
We have several roms, they range from stable to fast and unstable
Imo, that would be froyo like bionix to cm7 respectively.. cm7 flys but its batt sucks and gps is practicallu nonexistant (not that good iin froyo tho)
There is oc up to like 1.7ghz tho my phone doesnt do more than 1.6 stable...
Also, never use kies under any circumstance and learn to use odin Well.
Thats my advice... welcome
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younix258 said:
first, if your hardware locked, youre gonna havr to find the thread on how to unlock... do this FIRST.
We have several roms, they range from stable to fast and unstable
Imo, that would be froyo like bionix to cm7 respectively.. cm7 flys but its batt sucks and gps is practicallu nonexistant (not that good iin froyo tho)
There is oc up to like 1.7ghz tho my phone doesnt do more than 1.6 stable...
Also, never use kies under any circumstance and learn to use odin Well.
Thats my advice... welcome
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That's great. Just the sort of thing I am looking for.
Couple of questions.
As far as OC. Is that an app or is it through a differnt kernal. I know that some kernals oc and undervolt or stock cpu and undervolt. There is an app in the market that was for Motorola that was called Milestone Overclock (I know real original right) and with that and SetCPU was able to oc my 550mhz to 1100. Is there a Vibrant app similar?
How do I tell if my hardware is locked? Once I know, then I will search the threads for that. I already saw some in here with regards to how to do it. I already got into stock recovery last night just to check and see if I could (have't put CWR in or rooted yet-will do that later on tonight). Does this mean it isn't HWL or am I completely missing the target?
Odin I assume is what RSDlite is to Motorola. You power up to bootloader, connect to PC and flash "stock" sbf files (which is basically what came in the box). I always like to have that on hand just in case. I'll google and check it out.
Thanks for the info and glad to be here.
Read the noob stockier guide. Has all the info you need. Also in the development section down load the aio vibrant toolbox. Has Odin, all the files you need. I recommend the rom bi winning V3. It has a kernel that can overclock. You need an app for that tho. I like set CPU because it has profile management for off screen, charging etc.. good luck.
To tell if your hardware locked turn your phone off and hold down both volume rockers and press the power button when you see the vibrant logo pop up, keep holding untilled it goes away then pops up again. Then let go of the power. It should boot into recovery mode. It will be black screen with blue letters that say reboot phone, reinstall packages, wipe data. It may take a few times to get the hang of it. If your unable to then your phones is hardware locked.
Okay, youce been in recov so youre not hw locked.... greggory, you only have to hold power button till you see anything oon the screen the first time... holding it after that just makes it hw reboot whivh works, but is a waste of time.
Okay OP, odin has some nice ffeatures that let you flash bootloaders and firmware both.. truthfully, you can flash ANY rewritable media in your phone except internal and external sd from.odin afaik.
Oc requires an oc kernel and an oc app... app for ocing include voltage control, which was made for samsung galaxy s, set cpu, which i dislike, cpu master, no-frills ... all of em work most of the time and i use Voltage control..
Am i forgetting tto address anything?
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Ok so I've been using for a few days & I have to say the I really like this phone. Rooted and installed CWR lickity-split. Want to mess around and get more comfortable with surroundings, but have a few questions.
I dl'd Tegrak OC and am using it just fine. Any suggestions on stock kernal settings. Not applying any ROMs/Kernals for now, but setting suggestions would be helpful.
Got USB connection loop. Think I have a fix for that. Need to test some more.
Do I really have to name it update.zip to make "it" work, or can I name it anything else. Tried a few other names and they don't seem to install. Update.zip v buttermilkbiscuit.zip. why?
Does zipthemer work on this phone and do I have to name it Update.zip to make it work?
To change fonts, where do I put ttf? In settings there is a font changer, but where is the folder for that. Know it isn't /system/fonts BC that is a global changer but can't find it anywhere else. Looked in /data, /android and /sdcard. Clues?
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Ok so I've been using for a few days & I have to say the I really like this phone. Rooted and installed CWR lickity-split. Want to mess around and get more comfortable with surroundings, but have a few questions.
I dl'd Tegrak OC and am using it just fine. Any suggestions on stock kernal settings. Not applying any ROMs/Kernals for now, but setting suggestions would be helpful.
Got USB connection loop. Think I have a fix for that. Need to test some more.
Do I really have to name it update.zip to make "it" work, or can I name it anything else. Tried a few other names and they don't seem to install. Update.zip v buttermilkbiscuit.zip. why?
Does zipthemer work on this phone and do I have to name it Update.zip to make it work?
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Ok i think you should flash rom an kernel it takes phone to another an you do have to name it update.zip that is what recovery looks for an that is how custom one is installed i dont know what zip themer is but if u mean apply thme with zip then yes u can
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Ok i think you should flash rom an kernel it takes phone to another an you do have to name it update.zip that is what recovery looks for an that is how custom one is installed i dont know what zip themer is but if u mean apply thme with zip then yes u can
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I'll flash soon enough, just want to get my feet wet a bit. Only had phone for two days, so still picking and searching. More suggestions on ROMs/kernals, other than above?
Zipthemer is sweet. It takes all unzipped Metamorph.xmls, packages into one .zip and also creates and undo.zip too. Great themer.
There is a font changer in settings, but where is the folder to put the ttf file? /system/font is global, but looked in /data and /android and can't figure where to put it.
Just doing some house cleaning in my account and found this thread. It was my first thread in the Vibrant fora, just 5 short months ago.
Seems like so long ago. Have learned so much since then. Some have gone and some are still here, but I love this phone and the community that supports it.
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Just doing some house cleaning in my account and found this thread. It was my first thread in the Vibrant fora, just 5 short months ago.
Seems like so long ago. Have learned so much since then. Some have gone and some are still here, but I love this phone and the community that supports it.
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Lmao I was reading this thread going .... is wood trolling us right now till the last post then I looked at the dates lol
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Woodrube said:
Just doing some house cleaning in my account and found this thread. It was my first thread in the Vibrant fora, just 5 short months ago.
Seems like so long ago. Have learned so much since then. Some have gone and some are still here, but I love this phone and the community that supports it.
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Lol ... I couldn't resist! Just had to take a peak here - esp. seeing Woody's name and "New to the phone" in the title!! :what:
Woodman ...
The Vibrant fora wouldn't be the same experience without your participation, brother. Your ICS Guide thread (and our extensive GB BL discussion ... lol) originally inspired me to take the ICS leap (as well build the nerve to finally register and participate in threads here - ie. I was a long time "lurker"). Haven't looked back since.
Thanks for your efforts to ensuring all our Vibrant experiences stay ... well ... "Vibrant"!
That is funny. I just went back a re-read that thread. There is some good Q and A in there about all types of scenarios. Alot of familiar names too that have moved up in the ranks of experience as well.
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That is funny. I just went back a re-read that thread. There is some good Q and A in there about all types of scenarios. Alot of familiar names too that have moved up in the ranks of experience as well.
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Haha ... I just did the same. That thread could have been called, "Everything you wanted to know about ICS ... but weren't afraid to ask." Hilarious.
I'm not sure what wasn't discussed. We hit all the corners including some homescreen screenshots as icing on the cake. Great (re)read!
I completely forgot that some of the Zen crew had joined in ... Mostdef, bobshute, xriderx66. Lol. :thumbup:
Noobs these days
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This was fun to read, seeing Wood just entering the Vibrant community. The new guy on the block. Now look at you, you're one of the most recognized Vibrant users.
I remember my first post on XDA. I was messing around with Rom Manager and accidentally installed CWR. You wouldn't believe how much I was panicking, I thought I had bricked my phone! Lol, shows how much I knew.
Actually, that's why my name is "N00B_IN_N33D", because I was a noob who was in need of help. After I figured out how to Odin back to stock, which removed the (what I thought was) evil CWR I thought I wouldn't mess with my phone anymore. However s15274n talked me into flashing a custom froyo rom, Trigger, if I remember correctly. From there I blossomed in my understanding of Android and my Vibrant...
Anyhow, back on topic. It's amazing how experienced people have become here.
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Noobs these days
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We all growed up real good.
N00B_IN_N33D said:
This was fun to read, seeing Wood just entering the Vibrant community. The new guy on the block. Now look at you, you're one of the most recognized Vibrant users.
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Anyhow, back on topic. It's amazing how experienced people have become here.
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The Woodman deserves his due "respect" (but you have to say it the way AliG would to get the full effect). True Zen-like patience and an extremely rare dedication to help people. He's good peoples. No doubt!
Speaking of the way-back machine ... I can't even remember what Froyo was like. Do you? Then there's Eclair (yikes!). :what: I do remember the jump from Froyo to GB was pretty substantial. CM7 with those novel toggle bars and major speed boosts. Then ICS just took the phone to another level.
I remember the first time I rooted my phone, I was soooo damn nervous that I'd end up with a brick. I was just using SuperOneClick ... lol. The first time using Odin after reading all the horror stories here. The first time waiting through the VLF EXT4 conversion (seemed to take forever).
Been a fun ride.
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The first time waiting through the VLF EXT4 conversion (seemed to take forever).
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The first time I flashed a Froyo Voodoo kernel, I was in my basement watching a west coast baseball game and it was late. The wife and kids were asleep and like you said, it took forever. Forgot to turn the volume off when I did it. So I am sitting there watching the game and I see the Bali palm tree. I think cool, whatever. I return to the game and out of nowhere, I hear this lady's voice. Thought it must have been the parabolic on TV picking up some lady in the stands. Then I hear it again. Kind of freaked me out until I realized it was LINDA. I'll tell ya, if you are ready for her, she'll freak you the f**k out.
Anyways, thanks for the kind words. I remember one of the many freak out, panic sessions I've had in the past and there was always someone who helped me out. Just feel it is my duty to give back. Now if I can solve this Encryption Error bug, I'll have come full circle. It is driving me nuts.
I remember one of my first threads back in 2009
It was a fake Hero ROM for G1
I bashed on two devs and everyone was pissed at me....then when I moved to the Vibrant I got a clean start
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The first time I flashed a Froyo Voodoo kernel, I was in my basement watching a west coast baseball game and it was late. The wife and kids were asleep and like you said, it took forever. Forgot to turn the volume off when I did it. So I am sitting there watching the game and I see the Bali palm tree. I think cool, whatever. I return to the game and out of nowhere, I hear this lady's voice. Thought it must have been the parabolic on TV picking up some lady in the stands. Then I hear it again. Kind of freaked me out until I realized it was LINDA. I'll tell ya, if you are ready for her, she'll freak you the f**k out.
Anyways, thanks for the kind words. I remember one of the many freak out, panic sessions I've had in the past and there was always someone who helped me out. Just feel it is my duty to give back. Now if I can solve this Encryption Error bug, I'll have come full circle. It is driving me nuts.
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atleast your LINDA issue was panicked and gone.
I was in the bathroom taking a dump while the conversion went on... it freaked me out, and my mom thought i was watching porn in there -.-'
She then told this story at our family reunion... Almost died of embarrassment
So hey all, I am new here so bear with me. I have been on Android for about a year and am finally ready to root and run a rom. Started out with a Samsung Fascinate which got traded for a Droid X and that got replaced with a Droid X2. Having some small issues with the DX2, and since I need to factory reset I figured I would go ahead and try to root and run a rom...
So my question is being a complete noob would I be better with CM7 or Miui. Originally on the DX I looked into Miui and really liked how it looked and really wanted it and did a lot of research on it, but before I could try it I had to send back my DX and they replaced it with a brand new DX2 in the box. Then looking into it I noticed that Miui was not available for the DX2, so I just gave up and stayed put.
Recently reading thru the forums I see Miui is available now for the DX2, but I also was looking into CM7 which also looks really nice. I was wondering would either of them be easier for a noob? (i.e. install and post install customization) I have read up on both not having functional FM radio and HDMI, which are not big deals because I rarely use either... but are there any other big problems with either of these roms that would make a noobie like myself steer clear from them and is one of them faster than the other? I also looked into eclipse and not sure if that is something I should consider. Are there any major issues with eclipse and is it more stable than the other two? Honestly right now I am just trying to figure out where to start. I want to do something, but also want the easiest route so that I do not brick my phone as my wife would probably kill me, haha.
There is just so much info out there, I really don't know where to start. I know you guys probably get these questions all the time, but I could not find a specific thread that talked about just these two (or three) roms specifically for the DX2. I have been trying for the past month or two to research this stuff, and I have learned a lot, but I need a little help to push me in the right direction...
Oh, and if you couldn't guess I am on stock GB 2.3.4 unrooted...
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So hey all, I am new here so bear with me. I have been on Android for about a year and am finally ready to root and run a rom. Started out with a Samsung Fascinate which got traded for a Droid X and that got replaced with a Droid X2. Having some small issues with the DX2, and since I need to factory reset I figured I would go ahead and try to root and run a rom...
So my question is being a complete noob would I be better with CM7 or Miui. Originally on the DX I looked into Miui and really liked how it looked and really wanted it and did a lot of research on it, but before I could try it I had to send back my DX and they replaced it with a brand new DX2 in the box. Then looking into it I noticed that Miui was not available for the DX2, so I just gave up and stayed put.
Recently reading thru the forums I see Miui is available now for the DX2, but I also was looking into CM7 which also looks really nice. I was wondering would either of them be easier for a noob? (i.e. install and post install customization) I have read up on both not having functional FM radio and HDMI, which are not big deals because I rarely use either... but are there any other big problems with either of these roms that would make a noobie like myself steer clear from them and is one of them faster than the other? I also looked into eclipse and not sure if that is something I should consider. Are there any major issues with eclipse and is it more stable than the other two? Honestly right now I am just trying to figure out where to start. I want to do something, but also want the easiest route so that I do not brick my phone as my wife would probably kill me, haha.
There is just so much info out there, I really don't know where to start. I know you guys probably get these questions all the time, but I could not find a specific thread that talked about just these two (or three) roms specifically for the DX2. I have been trying for the past month or two to research this stuff, and I have learned a lot, but I need a little help to push me in the right direction...
Oh, and if you couldn't guess I am on stock GB 2.3.4 unrooted...
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Eclipse is the most stable. Cm7 and miui are both betas and not everything works.. Cm7 is good for speed, and miui for crazy customization options.
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Jubomime said:
Eclipse is the most stable. Cm7 and miui are both betas and not everything works.. Cm7 is good for speed, and miui for crazy customization options.
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Can I ask if you were just starting out and never messed with any roms before, which one would you choose out of the three?
kalojado said:
Can I ask if you were just starting out and never messed with any roms before, which one would you choose out of the three?
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Eclipse is likely the most stable, with CM7 following closely behind. MIUI is still in alpha. I haven't tried MIUI yet, but I've read people are having problems. For installing, they should all follow the same process.
Woops, accidentally clicked thank on your post. Oh well lol
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Can I ask if you were just starting out and never messed with any roms before, which one would you choose out of the three?
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Definitely recommend eclipse for starting out.
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Well Eclipse is currently based on Android 2.3.5, which means if you decided on that ROM, you would have to update to 2.3.5 then flash the ROM. Then if you ever wanted to switch to a different ROM, you would have to go through the process of SBF'ing back to Android 2.3.4 since all other ROMs are 2.3.4 based. However, Eclipse is the most stable as was mentioned already. Now between CM7 and MIUI, both are great ROMs. MIUI has some issues with audio and video in some scenarios but still works well. Flashing ROMs isnt that hard so if you have the time, try them all out. Just have all the files ready to restore your phone back to health in case something goes wrong.
One other thing to think about between Eclipse (which is stable and the upcoming 2.0.4 release is really stable and fast) and CM7/MIUI is HDMI.
Eclipse still can output HDMI since it still has some of the BLUR components in it.
CM7/MIUI are both compiled from AOSP components and have ALL of the BLUR components removed, hence no HDMI.
So, if you use HDMI and it's deal-breaker for you, then Eclipse is definitely the way you want to go. But, stability is also nice thing for Eclipse.
I see the stability of the ROMs as follows with the most stable listed first:
Eclipse 2.0.X
CM7 Beta
MIUI
CM9 (not released yet but it has Ice Cream Sandwich)
I was on Eclipse 2.0.3, then went to CM7 and stayed there for awhile. Then, I got onto the Eclipse beta team and started testing 2.0.4. The latest 2.0.4 is the most stable I've seen Eclipse, after a few minor issues, but that's why were were beta testing it. Definitely, I'm sticking with Eclipse.
One thing I've noticed, no matter how hard you try to leave Eclipse, I'm always noticing that people keep coming back to it. That alone should tell you how great a ROM it really is.
Thanks everyone. Seems like maybe I should try out Eclipse first, which is fine. I do want the most stable rom when it comes to my first time... then if I am feeling adventurous later I can try out the others. I will go do a search and hopefully can find a post that lets me know everything I need to do in one post. Thanks again for all the help, if anyone else wants to chime in, please do, I am open to any and all suggestions!
Go here:
http://www.eclipserom.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=46
Motcher has given a step-by-step explanation on how to get Eclipse 2.0.3 up and running. Once you have that, then when Eclipse 2.0.4 goes public, you'll already be set to flash it.
Eclipse 2.0.3 is here -> http://www.eclipserom.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=11
Both of these links go to the Eclipse forums where Nitro posts all his releases now.
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Can I ask if you were just starting out and never messed with any roms before, which one would you choose out of the three?
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Thanks everyone. Seems like maybe I should try out Eclipse first, which is fine. I do want the most stable rom when it comes to my first time... then if I am feeling adventurous later I can try out the others. I will go do a search and hopefully can find a post that lets me know everything I need to do in one post. Thanks again for all the help, if anyone else wants to chime in, please do, I am open to any and all suggestions!
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Eclipse is a good choice for your first time. It'll be gentle I promise.
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Thanks everyone. Seems like maybe I should try out Eclipse first, which is fine. I do want the most stable rom when it comes to my first time... then if I am feeling adventurous later I can try out the others. I will go do a search and hopefully can find a post that lets me know everything I need to do in one post. Thanks again for all the help, if anyone else wants to chime in, please do, I am open to any and all suggestions!
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Lucky for you, motcher created this sticky in the Development forum here,
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1391824
[REF]How to go from any 2.3.4 stock/custom rom to any 2.3.5 (412) based custom rom
It has all the instructions you need in one place , it is all very easy also , don't be afraid of bricking your x2
We have this little thing called sbf, as long as you have a computer you will be able to bring you phone back from any "bricked" state if any problems happen.
just stay away from modifying any boot partitions or anything like that. Stick to basics like flashing roms and tweaks/mods/scripts that are found here in the x2 forum and you won't ever hard brick your x2 to the point of no return lol
if you are ever unsure about what exactly a mod/tweak/script/ROM/hack does to your phone then just ask before doing it, trust me tho, sbf is freaking great, so many times I've gotten "bricked" at the Motorola dual core splash screen and a quick sbf flash brings it right back...
And in case you didn't notice, I recommend eclipse enjoy, happy flashing, and welcome
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Thanks so much for the info! I was out searching and wanted to ask if there was a specific link I could get that I could trust, but I didn't want to bother you all as I am sure you get these same questions over and over again. So thank you so much for passing that along... such a huge help and I am gonna attempt it here in a few moments...
Yeah, I have read a lot about sbf'ing and some people still act like I should be worried about bricking my phone, but I have also read other places where people have stated they have yet to see a phone they couldn't get back. So I am gonna try this, and just follow it step by step so I don't screw anything up! Will let you all know how it goes. Again, I can't thank everyone enough for all the great info!!
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Thanks so much for the info! I was out searching and wanted to ask if there was a specific link I could get that I could trust, but I didn't want to bother you all as I am sure you get these same questions over and over again. So thank you so much for passing that along... such a huge help and I am gonna attempt it here in a few moments...
Yeah, I have read a lot about sbf'ing and some people still act like I should be worried about bricking my phone, but I have also read other places where people have stated they have yet to see a phone they couldn't get back. So I am gonna try this, and just follow it step by step so I don't screw anything up! Will let you all know how it goes. Again, I can't thank everyone enough for all the great info!!
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Yea
I haven't seen anyone truly hard brick an x2
just stay away.from the mounts& storage options in BSR , and I think the only things you should touch in the advanced menu in BSR is wipe dalvik cache and battery stats...don't mess with anything else and you will be just fine brotha
Also, if there is anything you are to "embarrassed" to ask on the forum, then just shoot someone a private message my pm inbox is always open
And yes, when rooted and you are doing hacks and tweaks and such, you always have the risk of something going wrong, but like I said, never seen a truly hard bricked x2 that couldn't be fixed via sbf, ...you really gotta kinda be TRYING to brick for that to happen lol
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I haven't seen anyone truly hard brick an x2
just stay away.from the mounts& storage options in BSR , and I think the only things you should touch in the advanced menu in BSR is wipe dalvik cache and battery stats...don't mess with anything else and you will be just fine brotha
Also, if there is anything you are to "embarrassed" to ask on the forum, then just shoot someone a private message my pm inbox is always open
And yes, when rooted and you are doing hacks and tweaks and such, you always have the risk of something going wrong, but like I said, never seen a truly hard bricked x2 that couldn't be fixed via sbf, ...you really gotta kinda be TRYING to brick for that to happen lol
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Okay one quick question. On the link you provided the very fist download, RSD lite is not available. When you go to download it you get "Such file does not exist or it has been removed for infringement of copyrights." I went into the eclipse forum and there is mention of it being updated, but that is all I can find. Do you know where else I could get this file?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=22117008&postcount=135
Someone else asked same question other day
that link shows my response
Also,
U said you were on stock 2.3.4 right?
you won't need to sbf if you are, just install the 2.3.5 update zip
Then root with zergrush and good to go
Unless you are just getting everything set up for just in case you need to sbf...which is a great idea also
Good luck
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=22117008&postcount=135
Someone else asked same question other day
that link shows my response
Also,
U said you were on stock 2.3.4 right?
you won't need to sbf if you are, just install the 2.3.5 update zip
Then root with zergrush and good to go
Unless you are just getting everything set up for just in case you need to sbf...which is a great idea also
Good luck
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Yes, thats exactly what I was doing. I wanted to make sure I had everything just in case something went wrong. Just figured it would be good to have everything all set But thanks again... much appreciation!
Miui is my rom of choice when it's in full release candidate polish, and maybe eventually Ace's Miui4DX2 will get there. In the meantime, there's a battery-eating wakelock issue, app-by-app sound issues (sound sometimes just doesn't work), and some kind of rendering issue that slows Netflix/certain games/MX Video and various other media apps to a 1 frame per minute crawl. There's also an issue where wifi drops out periodically and doesn't reconnect unless you prompt it (or install a service like "Wi Fi Fixer" that toggles it for you).
So until Ace releases a better beta (which could be as soon as tomorrow, or as late as never), I'd count Miui out as a daily driver.
CM7 as a rom is great--not quite as pretty as Miui (and I find Miui eliminates a lot of the sloppiness in pre-ICS Android), but it is rock solid. DZK's build is an almost perfect CM7 build, except it has the same wifi connectivity issue as Ace's Miui. The advantages it offers more than compensate for the annoyance of having to run Wi-fi Fixer and every now and then waiting for wi-fi to reconnect.
I'm running CM7 on my DX2 and am quite happy with it. I'll give Miui another shot if there's another release (and I'm excited to see how DZK's CM9 runs), but CM7 is likely to be the best daily driver for the X2 for at least another month or two
Eclipse is Blur based (so it has the advantage of functional HDMI), but suffers from the slowdowns/choppiness/audio tearing when multitasking we all know Blur brings. Nitro did a good job of cutting Blur's visual crap out, and he built in a few useful scripts.
Eclipse is definitely better than stock, but if you're gonna go through the trouble of rooting and rom-ing, I'd go with CM7. There's also the issue jsgraphicart mentioned about 2.3.5 vs 2.3.4 requiring a couple extra SBFs if you ever want to switch to something else.
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Miui is my rom of choice when it's in full release candidate polish, and maybe eventually Ace's Miui4DX2 will get there. In the meantime, there's a battery-eating wakelock issue, app-by-app sound issues (sound sometimes just doesn't work), and some kind of rendering issue that slows Netflix/certain games/MX Video and various other media apps to a 1 frame per minute crawl. There's also an issue where wifi drops out periodically and doesn't reconnect unless you prompt it (or install a service like "Wi Fi Fixer" that toggles it for you).
So until Ace releases a better beta (which could be as soon as tomorrow, or as late as never), I'd count Miui out as a daily driver.
CM7 as a rom is great--not quite as pretty as Miui (and I find Miui eliminates a lot of the sloppiness in pre-ICS Android), but it is rock solid. DZK's build is an almost perfect CM7 build, except it has the same wifi connectivity issue as Ace's Miui. The advantages it offers more than compensate for the annoyance of having to run Wi-fi Fixer and every now and then waiting for wi-fi to reconnect.
I'm running CM7 on my DX2 and am quite happy with it. I'll give Miui another shot if there's another release (and I'm excited to see how DZK's CM9 runs), but CM7 is likely to be the best daily driver for the X2 for at least another month or two
Eclipse is Blur based (so it has the advantage of functional HDMI), but suffers from the slowdowns/choppiness/audio tearing when multitasking we all know Blur brings. Nitro did a good job of cutting Blur's visual crap out, and he built in a few useful scripts.
Eclipse is definitely better than stock, but if you're gonna go through the trouble of rooting and rom-ing, I'd go with CM7. There's also the issue jsgraphicart mentioned about 2.3.5 vs 2.3.4 requiring a couple extra SBFs if you ever want to switch to something else.
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Well hrmm, now you got me thinking about CM7 again, lol. I am in the process of downloading the Eclipse files and maybe I will look into CM7 some more before I proceed. Honestly, I am not at all concerned with the HDMI issue, as I rarely use it... but with that being said can you tell me any more issues with CM7 that would turn off a user from making it their daily rom? if no HDMI is the only issue, that is not a deal breaker for me...
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Well hrmm, now you got me thinking about CM7 again, lol. I am in the process of downloading the Eclipse files and maybe I will look into CM7 some more before I proceed. Honestly, I am not at all concerned with the HDMI issue, as I rarely use it... but with that being said can you tell me any more issues with CM7 that would turn off a user from making it their daily rom? if no HDMI is the only issue, that is not a deal breaker for me...
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I had issues with apps sometimes hanging and having to kill them. Also, Super User would sometimes forget an app already had the permissions to run as root. Sometimes, I'd have to go into the application manager and tell it to stop the application and try again and then it would get the SU permissions.
With Eclipse, I've have never had this problem. Again, it just shows how Eclipse is much more stable.
As it is, I don't know how much farther Dragonzkiller will stick with CM7 since he's working on CM9 right now. He's been so busy trying to get CM9 out that any more development/enhancing of CM7 and curing the SU and hanging process issues seems to have stopped at this point. But, not pointing the blame at DKZ as he's one busy dude with CM9.
However, Nitro is constantly busy working on Eclipse and not just for the X2. He also does it for the Bionic, RAZR, Galaxy Nexus, and Droid Charge. I don't know how he does it!
Great points. Thanks for the info. I tried to thank your post, but being new I did not know I was limited to 8 thanks per day, lol. But I wanted to let you know I appreciated the feedback!
I think I have flashed practically every ROM that exists from MiUI, ICS, GB
Have loaded on as many launchers as I know
changes things on a weekly, daily even hourly basis
I am constantly wanting to flash a new ROM, never satisfied.
I have swapped my SGS2 three times for Iphones but have always come back
Now I am contemplating swapping for a Sensation
STOP...what the hell am I doing...hardly use my device as a phone, hardly use my device for anything apart from changing it, reloading stuff, backups...I feel lost
Just get nokia 3310 and problem solved
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Just get nokia 3310 and problem solved
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THUDUK said:
I think I have flashed practically every ROM that exists from MiUI, ICS, GB
Have loaded on as many launchers as I know
changes things on a weekly, daily even hourly basis
I am constantly wanting to flash a new ROM, never satisfied.
I have swapped my SGS2 three times for Iphones but have always come back
Now I am contemplating swapping for a Sensation
STOP...what the hell am I doing...hardly use my device as a phone, hardly use my device for anything apart from changing it, reloading stuff, backups...I feel lost
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Well it depends in what line of work you are involved and how is your phone need to act in that.
I for myself have not tried a single custom ROM (once that CM and I was done) in this 9 months and never will. However that wasn't due to my line of work but it's a sorta an oath that I'll never flash any custom ROM on mine.
Same goes for launcher, using Go for 4 months and never looked to anything else.
Yes I flashed lot of kernels, but not that many until I found the best. Inf act there were several times my device had up time of more than 7/8 days.
Android is for doing things, but the problem is some do it as a freak, and don't worry you ain't the only one out there, in fact you realised that you've done something wrong while others still don't.
I really hate it that way, but glad to see at least one member have finally realised it.
Atleast get a Senstion XE, the oldskool Sensation is so 90's.
Go back to stock. Problem solved.
I would recommend cold showers...
More anxiety - more cold showers!!!
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I would recommend cold showers...
More anxiety - more cold showers!!!
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It looks like he's restless. So if the cold showers don't work. Get a girlfriend. That gives you something to get rid of your energy. Or if you already have one, get another! But ask nicely
Try a girlfriend .
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he he, great advice...ta
The Misses probably thinks I'm insane anyway
might try flashing back to stock and actually using the thing.
Or try to change the position...oh wait do that applicable here...
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I think I have flashed practically every ROM that exists from MiUI, ICS, GB
Have loaded on as many launchers as I know
changes things on a weekly, daily even hourly basis
I am constantly wanting to flash a new ROM, never satisfied.
I have swapped my SGS2 three times for Iphones but have always come back
Now I am contemplating swapping for a Sensation
STOP...what the hell am I doing...hardly use my device as a phone, hardly use my device for anything apart from changing it, reloading stuff, backups...I feel lost
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My goodness, you're not the only one feeling like that.
Except for the swapping for iPhones bit, I can see myself in this too, constantly changing things, this and that.
Although I do use my SGS2 as a phone sometimes, I feel I spend more time just trying out new things only to come back to a stock Rom and rooting for Titanium Backup!
Trust me. You will get over it eventually. On my S2, I've only flashed about 5% compared to when I had the S1. I've been on Checkrom v2 for months now, and although I've tried newer roms and leaks I always go back to my nandroid backup.
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Another flash junky here. The OP could have been written by me! However I'm going to settle for now with hyperdroid and verts ics theme until a stable cm9 comes out.
Stock(ish) Android FTW.
THUDUK said:
I think I have flashed practically every ROM that exists from MiUI, ICS, GB
Have loaded on as many launchers as I know
changes things on a weekly, daily even hourly basis
I am constantly wanting to flash a new ROM, never satisfied.
I have swapped my SGS2 three times for Iphones but have always come back
Now I am contemplating swapping for a Sensation
STOP...what the hell am I doing...hardly use my device as a phone, hardly use my device for anything apart from changing it, reloading stuff, backups...I feel lost
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So what? Some use it for games, some use it just as a phone, some for calendar and business scheduling, some for browsing, some for music listening. You use it for flashing and customizing. That's the beauty of this awesome phone: you can do whatever you want with it. And this is the answer which I give to ignorant people who ask me "Why do you need such a phone, you can't use it 100%". "Well of course I can't, because it can do so much, that it would be impossible to use it for everything. You use your 3310 in 100%, because all it can do is phone, and it does it well. I need more than that."
Seems like some kids yet to understand/feel/realise how/what OP felt/ is feeling atm.
Kids will always be kids
I'm a flash addict too! Help!!! I've blown away my last backup for HyperDroid. Don't get me wrong its a good and quick rom. I got hooked on Deep-Core v2, a good and almost there ICS rom. I tried DC v2 and I got the ****s because I couldnt restore my apps with Titanium. Soo looking and waiting for another stable ICS rom to use. I don't MIUI, sorry just my preference. I know a lot of people use it.
So anyone who doesn't have the same psychological condition the OP seems to have is a kid by your reckoning, eh ?
Nice logic there Isaac
OP/others, if it's affecting you/your life that badly, go see a shrink. You clearly have problems. If it was a joke, hahaha. Yet another pointless thread.
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Seems like some kids yet to understand/feel/realise how/what OP felt/ is feeling atm.
Kids will always be kids
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A thread is only as pointless as what you make of it, if you dont like a thread then the option is to not read it...simple as Mr Upersidedown world
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Well it depends in what line of work you are involved and how is your phone need to act in that.
I for myself have not tried a single custom ROM (once that CM and I was done) in this 9 months and never will. However that wasn't due to my line of work but it's a sorta an oath that I'll never flash any custom ROM on mine.
Same goes for launcher, using Go for 4 months and never looked to anything else.
Yes I flashed lot of kernels, but not that many until I found the best. Inf act there were several times my device had up time of more than 7/8 days.
Android is for doing things, but the problem is some do it as a freak, and don't worry you ain't the only one out there, in fact you realised that you've done something wrong while others still don't.
I really hate it that way, but glad to see at least one member have finally realised it.
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What do you mean by "done something wrong"? Just because you like your phone stock doesn't make flashing "wrong"
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After upgrading to ICS I have been having some issues with my phone; Bluetooth needs to be cleared of data each time I want to pair a device, ringers and alerts don't sound, and the most recent and debilitating- the phone restarted twice by itself and now the sleep/wake button is unresponsive. Has anyone else experienced these issues? I've done factory resets once or twice since upgrading to ICS and it's really getting on my nerves.
-is it time to call it quits and just bring the phone to a service center?
-any insight into rolling back to gingerbread (on a Mac preferably)
Thanks guys!
Sorry to be "the jerk" post, but there are tons of threads out right now about problems on att's ics rom. And in the stickies is a good start to figuring out how to "roll back" to gingerbread. I've found that if you search and do the work yourself, how to do it will be 100x easier when u run into a future problem. Good luck man.
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Not to mention the fact that he factory reset the phone with stock kernel installed. Which has been known to completely hard brick our devices (its referred to as the emmc bug) make sure yo read folks! We don't want hard bricks on our hands
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Root phone and flash another kernel stock ics kernel bricks phone u should of been reading before posting factory/reset can brick your phone I'm just run a custom rom look for a stock one or something different that u might like
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Haha you're not being a jerk. I usually wold go searching through thread after thread but I didn't know if this was a unique problem. I know a TON of people are having issues with the IcS update though. I'd love to roll back the phone, but I'm nervous my phone will get bricked in the process....the official update did that and I was without a phone for a day or two until I magically got it to work. This it total BS.
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Haha you're not being a jerk. I usually wold go searching through thread after thread but I didn't know if this was a unique problem. I know a TON of people are having issues with the IcS update though. I'd love to roll back the phone, but I'm nervous my phone will get bricked in the process....the official update did that and I was without a phone for a day or two until I magically got it to work. This it total BS.
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Lol yeah, you should really look into other Roms if u wanna try out ICS. Stay away from Att stuff lol
Check this one out to start:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1650948
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Retry with another kernel ^^ good luck !
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Heimdall works on Macs , just noticed in the op u said u had one.
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Ok guys... coming over from the OG Evo 4G... I love this phone so far. I've had it for about 2 days. Everything is great, except it seems that I'm getting some serious lag when coming out of applications or interwebs using the home key. I get 2 or 3 seconds of "loading" and then it fills in. They phone is stock with very little added at this point. I did get the new OTA update right when I activated, so not sure if its an issue with that or not. Is anyone else getting this lag? With the power this phone has, I feel there should be zero lag when doing simple activities... 2 or 3 seconds isn't acceptable. Tried a factory reset... Didn't improve. Any suggestions????
You're experiencing multitasking issues with sense reloads. Rooting can really help with that sort of thing.
Its really too bad you took that OTA, You won't be able to get full S-OFF.
If you aren't the rooting type, changing launchers can help
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Ok guys... coming over from the OG Evo 4G... I love this phone so far. I've had it for about 2 days. Everything is great, except it seems that I'm getting some serious lag when coming out of applications or interwebs using the home key. I get 2 or 3 seconds of "loading" and then it fills in. They phone is stock with very little added at this point. I did get the new OTA update right when I activated, so not sure if its an issue with that or not. Is anyone else getting this lag? With the power this phone has, I feel there should be zero lag when doing simple activities... 2 or 3 seconds isn't acceptable. Tried a factory reset... Didn't improve. Any suggestions????
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Root it and flash rom htc totally failed with multitasking
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Thanks for the responses guys... I have rooted/Rom'd my last 2 phones heavily (OG Droid, OG Evo) and am fairly comfortable with it. I guess I just wanted to enjoy this one stock for a while. After running ICS and JB Roms on my old EVO for the last 6 months... It is nice to have everything working at the same time (Netflix, Camera etc...). Plus, Rom'ing seems a little iffy on this Evo so far with reports of actual bricking (yes, I know.. usually user error) and borking Google Wallet. I am decent at this stuff, but I do make my share of mistakes. And seeing as how I bought this phone off eBay (not due for an upgrade), I can't afford to break it. Do you guys think this issue is being addressed by HTC? I hope so......
Rxpert said:
You're experiencing multitasking issues with sense reloads. Rooting can really help with that sort of thing.
Its really too bad you took that OTA, You won't be able to get full S-OFF.
If you aren't the rooting type, changing launchers can help
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Are there launchers that are more successfull than others for this phone? Apex? Nova?
STIDRIVER said:
Thanks for the responses guys... I have rooted/Rom'd my last 2 phones heavily (OG Droid, OG Evo) and am fairly comfortable with it. I guess I just wanted to enjoy this one stock for a while. After running ICS and JB Roms on my old EVO for the last 6 months... It is nice to have everything working at the same time (Netflix, Camera etc...). Plus, Rom'ing seems a little iffy on this Evo so far with reports of actual bricking (yes, I know.. usually user error) and borking Google Wallet. I am decent at this stuff, but I do make my share of mistakes. And seeing as how I bought this phone off eBay (not due for an upgrade), I can't afford to break it. Do you guys think this issue is being addressed by HTC? I hope so......
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Supposedly it is but i dont think it has been fully addressed as devs are still making work arounds for it on thw new ota so my guess is yet another fail for htc
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STIDRIVER said:
Thanks for the responses guys... I have rooted/Rom'd my last 2 phones heavily (OG Droid, OG Evo) and am fairly comfortable with it. I guess I just wanted to enjoy this one stock for a while. After running ICS and JB Roms on my old EVO for the last 6 months... It is nice to have everything working at the same time (Netflix, Camera etc...). Plus, Rom'ing seems a little iffy on this Evo so far with reports of actual bricking (yes, I know.. usually user error) and borking Google Wallet. I am decent at this stuff, but I do make my share of mistakes. And seeing as how I bought this phone off eBay (not due for an upgrade), I can't afford to break it. Do you guys think this issue is being addressed by HTC? I hope so......
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Clear wallet settings before flashing just to be sure if you're worried about that.
Unlock and root your phone, follow the 1.15 flashing instructions and get cm10, it will feel like a new phone. Well worth any risk (which IMO is low following instructions).
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I think something might be wrong with your phone. We've taken a dive into these phones the last couple of weeks. I got an EVO Lte first. It came with the newest update. So I rooted, but no s-off, of course. Running stock ROM. Runs great. No complaints, except the multi-tasking, of course. No lags, though.
MIL decided to move into a smartphone and got the same phone a few days ago, with my help. Left it completely stock and worked on it extensively loading apps, configuring it, etc. I notice zero difference between the phones. Same performance, no lag on either one, etc.
P.S. Wife picked up an S3 on Saturday. I'm in charge of setting it up, too. I expected to be realy wowwed by it. But after a couple of days of playing with it, I think I like the Evo better. I like both phones, but I think I made the right choice for me. It would be nice if HTC was as developer friendly as Samsung, though.
Update: Factory reset fixed the lag... it was acting up still right after I did it, which is when I posted the thread. But, after letting it settle for a day or so, its fine. Awesomeness restored. Thanks for the help though, and when the modding bug hits me, I know where to go.
Sometimes after just flashing a new ROM its a good idea to factory reset first, it gets tested for the device intended and released for others but an image is basically a snapshot of the ROM and everything in it, when you factory restore a new ROM, you really start fresh
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Update: Factory reset fixed the lag... it was acting up still right after I did it, which is when I posted the thread. But, after letting it settle for a day or so, its fine. Awesomeness restored. Thanks for the help though, and when the modding bug hits me, I know where to go.
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I hope you have better luck than I did. The lag came back. So far, minus the last few things that aren't working properly, CM10 is the way to go. It's like a whole new phone. No Lag, smooth as butter, no more waiting for Sense to load, just a much better all around experience. Thanks to Toast and Deck, incredible work!
Still running like a champ... I think the phone was just confused with activation, setup and the evil AirRave that hates all my phones... Factory reset seems to have worked. Trying to hold off on root/rom for now...