Hi - tried searching for this particular issue but no luck. I sent my i9100 away for repair but prior to that it was rooted. I didn't flash to any fancy firmware though - i just kept the stock one. I backed up my apps using titanium backup.
I have performed a restore of my apps using titanium backup but some apps like boat browser, dropbox, google+ etc force close repeatedly immediately after opening. I had the same firmware as before so I can't see what the problem could be?
Did you restore app data ? If you did, that is probably the reason. Don't do it for those/any apps you're having problems with. If you restored apps only, I'd do a clean install of these apps from Google Play rather than restoring them.
MistahBungle said:
Did you restore app data ? If you did, that is probably the reason. Don't do it for those/any apps you're having problems with. If you restored apps only, I'd do a clean install of these apps from Google Play rather than restoring them.
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thanks for the reply. I'll do the clean install from google play.
Out of curiousity - why would the data cause these crashes?
I *think* (not absolutely positively certain) it's got something to do with the restore putting the data back into a different place to what the firmware is expecting/the 'symbolic' links to the data being messed up. So basically when you open the app & it goes to use the restored data, the system processes needed go 'nope' & you get a FC.
Not exactly a technical answer, I know But that's my rudimentary understanding of it. There are posts on here which explain it technically in more detail if you're interested enough to do a Google search to find them (I'm not, they are hard to find ).
I always do clean installs when I'm flashing a new rom or a new major version/revision of a rom & rarely have problems.
5aq1b said:
thanks for the reply. I'll do the clean install from google play.
Out of curiousity - why would the data cause these crashes?
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I have read that when going to a different rom to do a full wipe.
So clearly if you want to keep your apps you back them up and recover them with titanium backup, but why is it advised to not restore the Data of the apps?
How else would I keep game scores and settings and such?
Thanks
restoring the data for the user apps is fine, don't restore the system data...
Wond3r said:
I have read that when going to a different rom to do a full wipe.
So clearly if you want to keep your apps you back them up and recover them with titanium backup, but why is it advised to not restore the Data of the apps?
How else would I keep game scores and settings and such?
Thanks
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that would be a bit of misinformation that gets spread around.....
its fine to restore user apps+data. i have been doing it for a long time with every device i have. swapping between devices and all.
do a batch restore MISSING apps+data
unselect anything that might be blur/sense/touchwiz specific (based on the phone you are using)
run the batch and reboot
verify you are not having any FCs on your apps
if you do a batch restore of just user apps+data (and not the MISSING option) you will get tons of issues.
it is not advised to use Titanium Backup for things like text messages, contacts, phone logs, etc. (while possible it will work just fine, i have seen lots more issues trying to restore those from rom to rom rather than just user apps.)
again. use the MISSING APPS option in the batch restore of Titanium Backup
i have been doing it for over a year on many different devices and i even share my titanium backup folder between different phones, with NO issues at all. and i typically flash several times a week on several different devices.
Wond3r said:
I have read that when going to a different rom to do a full wipe.
So clearly if you want to keep your apps you back them up and recover them with titanium backup, but why is it advised to not restore the Data of the apps?
How else would I keep game scores and settings and such?
Thanks
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It is advised to do full wipe, if you install a rom.
And if you want to keep your settings, games scores etc, you use Titanium Backup.
Titanium Backup is your friend in those cases..
What is not adviced, is installing a Rom, without wiping your data.. In that way, you keep for example data of apps and games, of a froyo rom, to a gingerbread rom..
Rom to Rom differs(even in same android version), thats why you full wipe, and then TiBu saves you by restoring them, to the new rom's enviroment..
Edit: Agree with others.. I was typing on atrix, and since i wrote this, they already answered!
Also in atrix, NEVER restore FINGERPRINTS backup..
Sent from my MB860 using XDA App
Pirateghost said:
that would be a bit of misinformation that gets spread around.....
its fine to restore user apps+data. i have been doing it for a long time with every device i have. swapping between devices and all.
do a batch restore MISSING apps+data
unselect anything that might be blur/sense/touchwiz specific (based on the phone you are using)
run the batch and reboot
verify you are not having any FCs on your apps
if you do a batch restore of just user apps+data (and not the MISSING option) you will get tons of issues.
it is not advised to use Titanium Backup for things like text messages, contacts, phone logs, etc. (while possible it will work just fine, i have seen lots more issues trying to restore those from rom to rom rather than just user apps.)
again. use the MISSING APPS option in the batch restore of Titanium Backup
i have been doing it for over a year on many different devices and i even share my titanium backup folder between different phones, with NO issues at all. and i typically flash several times a week on several different devices.
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That explains it. Ive seen MANY posts where users tell other users to restore apps but not restore data but dont specify they mean system data and not app data!
Also, when people talk of a full wipe, do they mean even deleting the contents of the internal storage (like photos and such?)
This would be for going from one ROM to another ROM, both GB
No they are talking about doing a "wipe data/factory reset" in CMW and not physically deleting your internal sdcard. if you delete your sdcard then you will wipe out data that you need including your titanium backups
morepower71 said:
No they are talking about doing a "wipe data/factory reset" in CMW and not physically deleting your internal sdcard. if you delete your sdcard then you will wipe out data that you need including your titanium backups
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Thanks ! I always feared that the wipe data/factory reset pretty much deletes all the files on your device like photos and music
The short answer is force closes. Which also can happen from restoring app data, altho it is less likely to happen, it can and it will. But yea def dont restore system data.
Is there any other way of saving game saves?
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Is there any other way of saving game saves?
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You can use SyncIt or GameOn, you can even back it up manualy with Root Explorer. You should be fine with TiBU, just if you do get a force close you will know why and what to do (delete data and/or uninstall/reinstall).
I am having an issue restoring my app data from titanium backup. The issue first occurred when i switched from a stock ROM to CM7 ICS ROM. When i restored my missing apps+data all of my app data had disappeared. I just started over and didn't worry about it. Then when i switched from CM7 back to a stock rom I received my old apps+data from before i switched to CM7. I read around on the forums that this might be a compatibility issue. So i started to use the setting in the batch menu "Manipulate data and converted my backups to roll back journal mode which says this works with all roms, and started uploading to Dropbox. I recently just switched my Rom from a stock ROM to CM9 ICS. I lost all of my apps again!! and got back all of the app data from when i was using CM7. Could someone please shed some light on what is going on here cause i have no idea. Please let me know if there is anything i can do to get my app data into CM9 from my last stock rom. The stock rom i was using was an old ROM called wet dream.
JonnyCazoid said:
I am having an issue restoring my app data from titanium backup. The issue first occurred when i switched from a stock ROM to CM7 ICS ROM. When i restored my missing apps+data all of my app data had disappeared. I just started over and didn't worry about it. Then when i switched from CM7 back to a stock rom I received my old apps+data from before i switched to CM7. I read around on the forums that this might be a compatibility issue. So i started to use the setting in the batch menu "Manipulate data and converted my backups to roll back journal mode which says this works with all roms, and started uploading to Dropbox. I recently just switched my Rom from a stock ROM to CM9 ICS. I lost all of my apps again!! and got back all of the app data from when i was using CM7. Could someone please shed some light on what is going on here cause i have no idea. Please let me know if there is anything i can do to get my app data into CM9 from my last stock rom. The stock rom i was using was an old ROM called wet dream.
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The stock rom uses a different back up location than cm roms. You will have to manually go find the data backups in tibu. Don't bother having it auto detect, wont work. For example, all my backups were at mnt/emmc/titaniumbackup instead of the stock roms location of mnt/sdcard/titaniumbackup
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The stock rom uses a different back up location than cm roms. You will have to manually go find the data backups in tibu. Don't bother having it auto detect, wont work. For example, all my backups were at mnt/emmc/titaniumbackup instead of the stock roms location of mnt/sdcard/titaniumbackup
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Looks like that was the the problem. I saved my backup on drop box so i just dropped what was on dropbox in my titanium folder and restored it. I now have all of my app data back.
First of all, its a very nice ROM! Reliable, smooth and fast!
I did a minor mess and ask for your advice, after installation I did a full recovery of my apps and data with titanium backup. After that I experienced two annoying issues, the browser didn't start (browser.android.com error) and the new calendar have a conflict with the old one restored.
If I reflash without wiping that issues should go?
Many thanks!
Going forward, do not restore system apps. There are ways to fix this, but I would go the clean way and factory wipe. Then simply restore non-system apps. I also then go in and freeze a lot of system apps since Task has what I consider to be bloat... once you have frozen them and do not experience any issues you could uninstall them (though if frozen, no real need to)... ie, you could do this on the calendar.
Please use the Q&A Forum for questions Thanks
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s15274n said:
Going forward, do not restore system apps. There are ways to fix this, but I would go the clean way and factory wipe. Then simply restore non-system apps. I also then go in and freeze a lot of system apps since Task has what I consider to be bloat... once you have frozen them and do not experience any issues you could uninstall them (though if frozen, no real need to)... ie, you could do this on the calendar.
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I think everyone makes the system app restore mistake once. s15274n is right though, its best to always just go ahead and start clean, just to make sure there are no complications that haven't shown themselves yet, and then all of a sudden your tablet won't rotate anymore... (that was my super experience with not wiping completely)
Thanks.
I full wiped all again reinstalled the rom, restored the 3rd part apps and data. It's working now!
I just flashed euphoria rc1 comming from stock JFD, and I am having problems with some gmail account from my own domain with gapps and also with whats app. Today I opened the XDA app, wich I always restore the same way with titanium backup and I have a problems singing in and it ask me to re enter my username and pass.
I think the are all related, whatapps is the one that gives me the most helpfull indication. It says conection failure, if you have whatapp installed on another phone, please delete it and then reinstall etc etc, something like that.
what can I do?
Hey groggycl,
I noticed my titanium backups caused issues with a lot of apps (including XDA) when backed up 2.x and restored to ICS 4.x. My first recommendation is to reinstall the rom and try again, but if you continue to have issues, restore all apps manually from the market, and then selectively restore data through titanium backup to each app one at a time, then test the app. This helped me narrow down which apps were ok with restoring the data, and which apps ceased to work.
Hope this helps.
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... restore all apps manually from the market, and then selectively restore data through titanium backup to each app one at a time, then test the app. This helped me narrow down which apps were ok with restoring the data, and which apps ceased to work.
Hope this helps.
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I suggest doing this first before restoring the ROM altogether. It has worked for me too. Also the XDA has had 2 updates in 24 hours that both have required a re-log-in.
Woodrube said:
I suggest doing this first before restoring the ROM altogether. It has worked for me too. Also the XDA has had 2 updates in 24 hours that both have required a re-log-in.
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Great point! For me, I usually restore the rom first just because it's faster than going through each of my apps one by one, but it really comes down to how many apps you have/what works best for you.
Great tip on the XDA app as well!
The back up was made on passion rc1... and I went through every passion release doing the same procedure so I don't expect this to be a back up problem, but anyways, I am going to try it and tell you if it worked out or not..
thanks averyone!
Hello, I've a problem that is recurrent in the Galaxy S forum... and maybe somewhere else!
When I do a backup with TB, it goes fine.
Then I flash a new rom, restore with TB. When app is restored, everything's fine, but when I restore data, every app is force closing... This is really annoying if I want to get back my apps settings...
If someone has a fix, I'd appreciate a lot !
Thanks a lot guys !
Are you restoring system data? That can cause major issues. Just click restore missing apps when restoring.
Your settings are saved in misc. Data, and back that up, then restore that, and you can flash to your heart's content.
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I'm not restoring system data, just app data.
APK backup is just fine, but when i'm restoring my data, it's totally messed up !
Same issue with me
Sounds like I'm in the same boat. The TI data restores don't work. I have not backed up or tried to restore system data. If I wipe data for an app, it runs fine. If I restore data, it force closes.
I've tried clearing cache and fixing permissions, but no luck.
I just upgraded from ASKP Milestone 5 to build 38 (VZ Fascinate).
Just Restore Apps, instead of together
Hi, Perhaps app's data somehow related to previous ROM thingy. New ROM might comes with different features which makes apps shown in different layouts and data presentation. That might have been the cause. So just reinstall ONLY WITH APPS ONLY. Data typically like saved memory/cookies in your phone. So data can be remade by reopen apps Hope helps
whitefang
If this helps or convinces you, pls kindly hit thanks button.
Will try rollback to Milestone 5
whitefang3456 said:
Hi, Perhaps app's data somehow related to previous ROM thingy. New ROM might comes with different features which makes apps shown in different layouts and data presentation. That might have been the cause. So just reinstall ONLY WITH APPS ONLY. Data typically like saved memory/cookies in your phone. So data can be remade by reopen apps Hope helps
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Thanks for the reply. I don't see how in incremental release of the same ROM would be the issue. Yes, I couild install the apps only, but that would defeat the purpose of using TI in the first place. (And, I have nearly 200 apps.)
Tonight, I'll roll back to AOKP Milestone 5 and see if it works. If not, I'm wondering if the update to TI this week may have had anything to do with it.
Method for solving FC (make sure ya know what you doing)
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Hello, I've a problem that is recurrent in the Galaxy S forum... and maybe somewhere else!
When I do a backup with TB, it goes fine.
Then I flash a new rom, restore with TB. When app is restored, everything's fine, but when I restore data, every app is force closing... This is really annoying if I want to get back my apps settings...
If someone has a fix, I'd appreciate a lot !
Thanks a lot guys !
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Thanks for the reply. I don't see how in incremental release of the same ROM would be the issue. Yes, I couild install the apps only, but that would defeat the purpose of using TI in the first place. (And, I have nearly 200 apps.)
Tonight, I'll roll back to AOKP Milestone 5 and see if it works. If not, I'm wondering if the update to TI this week may have had anything to do with it.
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Oh, if thats the case, are you restoring data including some system data into different rom? Perhaps you can give a try:
1.Wipe the data for that app
2.Launch the app again. It should run normally but without any data (eg: zero MMS/SMS messages).
3.Enable the "System data migration" option in Titanium Backup
4.Restore the data with Titanium Backup
5.Reboot.
Source of method:http://www.titaniumtrack.com/kb/tit...ystem-app-FC-when-launch-restored-system-data
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sincerely,
whitefang
If someone could say if this works?
I'll give it a try when i'll flash again a rom, but for now i reverted back to mine
I went back to M5 and had the same issue. I had not backed up or restored and system data. Same problem whether restoring via batch or individual app.
If I create a new backup, I can restore it ok. So, seems that the last full restore I did was corrupt.
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I didn't understand what you did to avoid the problem...
May you explain it again?
Also, i contacted titanium backup team, they asked for a logcat of my phone doing restore, flashing and backup... Can someone help me with that?
I didn't actualy fix the problem. I just proved that my previous backup was corrupt or something. I know this because I cannot restore the backups I made before wiping the phone. However, if I make a new backup, I'm able to clear data/restore it with no issues.
I've never pulled logcat files for TB, so can't help you there.
Hey,
I've been juggling ROMs for a bit and what I noticed is that Titanium Backup will fail to restore some apps properly. The app shows up in the launcher but its icon is missing and trying to launch it several times ends with the error about the app repeatedly crashing/getting force closed.
It's only a small percentage of apps not restoring properly. I can still uninstall the app, reinstall it from play store and restore data only in TB, and it will work. But depending on which app breaks, it can be annoying.
Is there something I have to change or is this a known issue? I've been using TB for like 8 years on my previous devices with no such issues, it started happening on the Poco F1 though.
PS: I'm not using Google to sync and restore app data because 1. my upload is fairly slow and 2. I'm on a metered internet connection.
It depends "I think" the type of kernel that it uses and if you are changing the kernel when you change the ROM, it happened to me when I'm in a ROM and kernel change crashes me titanium backup.
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It depends "I think" the type of kernel that it uses and if you are changing the kernel when you change the ROM, it happened to me when I'm in a ROM and kernel change crashes me titanium backup.
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I wasn't changing kernels, unless you mean ROMs that are based on CAF kernels instead of AOSP.
I'll be able to test this theory in a moment, as right now I'm switching from xiaomi.eu to crDroid, which I think both use the non-CAF kernel.
EDIT: Nope that's not it.
I also had the issue as I swapped ROMs or just fresh installed my rom. I always need to reinstall the app via play store then .
One app I remember was Twitter for example.
Try to open Titanium Backup properties and give all permissions, principally storage one
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I also had the issue as I swapped ROMs or just fresh installed my rom. I always need to reinstall the app via play store then .
One app I remember was Twitter for example.
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Yeah, now that I was restoring apps yet again, I noticed there are a few apps that couldn't get restored properly again, namely: SwiftKey, PPSSPP and some ASMR app.
Funny thing is, out of these three I've been using SwiftKey since probably forever, and I never had problems backing up/restoring this one.
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Try to open Titanium Backup properties and give all permissions, principally storage one
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TB already had all permissions it could have. I installed it via Play Store, so it asked me for all the permissions when I launched it.