According to Engadget, ASUS PadFone priced and ready for pre-order in Taiwan tomorrow, launches mid-April, check it out
engadget com/2012/04/05/asus-padfone-priced-and-ready-for-pre-order-in-taiwan-tomorrow/ (sorry, doesn't allow me to insert full url)
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According to Engadget, ASUS PadFone priced and ready for pre-order in Taiwan tomorrow, launches mid-April, check it out
engadget com/2012/04/05/asus-padfone-priced-and-ready-for-pre-order-in-taiwan-tomorrow/ (sorry, doesn't allow me to insert full address)
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I'm interested to see if this concept pans out and people actually pick up on it. Personally I have my doubts that this will catch on. Especially with the price of the thing:
"...dual-core phone is priced at NT$17,990 (US$610), while the tablet set -- including that curious Bluetooth headset / stylus -- will set you back NT$24,980 (around US$850). If you're thinking keyboard add-ons are all the rage, expect to pay around NT$28,901 (US$980)..."
So if the phone itself is $610 and the tablet with keyboard is $980, there is no way this thing will make it. However, their wording around the pricing is a little confusing. Maybe it is $980 for the phone, tablet and dock. But even so, I would never pay that much for this.
I'm really tempted with one of these for the Mrs, both her phone and laptop are at deaths door.
If its sensibly priced for the Phone/Tablet Dock and it uses the TF201 Keyboard I'll probably bite
Its the ultimate set up for an electronics device but damn its expensive..lol. I really like it and would be so cool to own. Priced to high for me though. If the complete set would cost about $600, I'd say its worth it. But almost $1000 is too much. People will still buy it though.
I don't get it... WHY would people pay to get ONE device that just builds into another for the same price as buying 3 separate devices?
When Google finally comes out with its "cheap" Nexus tablet, getting an unlocked GSM Galaxy Nexus + tablet will probably be about $750. You telling me the keyboard dock is worth another $230?
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So if the phone itself is $610 and the tablet with keyboard is $980, there is no way this thing will make it. However, their wording around the pricing is a little confusing. Maybe it is $980 for the phone, tablet and dock. But even so, I would never pay that much for this.
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If it's $980 for the phone, dock, stylus/headset, and keyboard dock altogether, then that wouldn't be terribly bad considering:
1. Phones are typically in the $500-$700 range (sometimes more) unsubsidized.
2. That would make it $370 additional for the tablet, the stylus/headset, and the keyboard dock.
3. The Transformer keyboard dock is $150 by itself. So, that makes the stylus/headset and tablet only $220. And THAT wouldn't be bad considering that the tablet includes some of the pricier components of a standalone tablet, such as the battery and the screen.
I also don't think the tablet/stylus/headset/dock combo will be $980 by itself, given that the Transformer Prime 32GB is only $650 and includes a processor, RAM, radios, etc.
If the phone were subsidized to the typical $200, and then the tablet/stylus/headset/dock were an additional $370, it would probably do pretty well as people compared the combo to a phone+tablet alternative.
If it's $610 for the phone and $980 for the other components... Then seriously, ouch. It won't go anywhere.
wynand32 said:
If it's $980 for the phone, dock, stylus/headset, and keyboard dock altogether, then that wouldn't be terribly bad considering:
1. Phones are typically in the $500-$700 range (sometimes more) unsubsidized.
2. That would make it $370 additional for the tablet, the stylus/headset, and the keyboard dock.
3. The Transformer keyboard dock is $150 by itself. So, that makes the stylus/headset and tablet only $220. And THAT wouldn't be bad considering that the tablet includes some of the pricier components of a standalone tablet, such as the battery and the screen.
I also don't think the tablet/stylus/headset/dock combo will be $980 by itself, given that the Transformer Prime 32GB is only $650 and includes a processor, RAM, radios, etc.
If the phone were subsidized to the typical $200, and then the tablet/stylus/headset/dock were an additional $370, it would probably do pretty well as people compared the combo to a phone+tablet alternative.
If it's $610 for the phone and $980 for the other components... Then seriously, ouch. It won't go anywhere.
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I guess if you put the price thing aside I think there is a fundamental usability problem with trying to combine the functionality of a phone and a tablet into a single device. And that is, what happens when someone tries to call you and you have the thing docked in the tablet? I am guessing you would have to either yank the think out of the tablet or use the bluetooth headset, which either way is going to be a clumsy and annoying experience (what if the bluetooth headset is not close to you, etc.).
Also, I don't want to constantly have to dock and undock my phone. This would be something that I personally would have to do a minimum of twice a day. In the morning I would leave for work and my phone would be docked in the tablet from the night before, so I would have to undock it to take my phone to work. Then once I get home from work I have to dock the phone in order to use the tablet. This would get old really fast. Currently I come home from work, plop down on the couch and grab my Prime which is right there ready to go. No setup is required.
It'll be cheaper, assuming it makes it to the US and gets carrier subsidy. That's the trick--navigating the carrier negotiations to get it approved, since you can't just pop in a SIM and use it. It may happen (for the US), since it would be a good halo device. Then again, the Moto Atrix didn't quite set any sales record.
The price isn't unreasonable once you account for all the trappings. But it's a sticker shock at first glance, because the iPad's $500 reference price is firmly ensconced in buyers' minds. "First-glance" eval can be make-or-break. It's definitely a niche item, even more than the usual 4G-enabled tablets. One indicator will be whether XDA gets enough requests to make a forum for it. But given the dearth of high-end Android tabs lately, it'll probably get a forum regardless.
I'm leery of its complexity. Asus has a less-than-stellar QC record with its tablets to date, both in hardware and firmware. Of course, prudence isn't exactly an early adopter trait, and kids must have their shiny toys. Prime users will have ample company in extolling their love of Asus products.
I re-watched the PadFone announcement to take stock, and Shih dude always cracks me up. He's the definition of "camp."
I would seriously pick the Padphone if it supported US Tmobile's HSPA+ (4g) 1700/2100 bands.
What is the point of this anyways. Why buy this instead of a separate phone and tablet...
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It'll be cheaper, assuming it makes it to the US and gets carrier subsidy. That's the trick--navigating the carrier negotiations to get it approved, since you can't just pop in a SIM and use it. It may happen (for the US), since it would be a good halo device. Then again, the Moto Atrix didn't quite set any sales record.
The price isn't unreasonable once you account for all the trappings. But it's a sticker shock at first glance, because the iPad's $500 reference price is firmly ensconced in buyers' minds. "First-glance" eval can be make-or-break. It's definitely a niche item, even more than the usual 4G-enabled tablets. One indicator will be whether XDA gets enough requests to make a forum for it. But given the dearth of high-end Android tabs lately, it'll probably get a forum regardless.
I'm leery of its complexity. Asus has a less-than-stellar QC record with its tablets to date, both in hardware and firmware. Of course, prudence isn't exactly an early adopter trait, and kids must have their shiny toys. Prime users will have ample company in extolling their love of Asus products.
I re-watched the PadFone announcement to take stock, and Shih dude always cracks me up. He's the definition of "camp."
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Ah, lmfao. I had to pause the video as i couldn't stop laughing. I love it. THAT guy is quite a character. More people need to show that kind of Enthusiasm towards Prime and Asus products. That was a good laugh. Then add in the fact that he's very animated also, Classic.
He is like "Is this a pad?" Love it! Lol
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According to Engadget, ASUS PadFone priced and ready for pre-order in Taiwan tomorrow, launches mid-April, check it out
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So Taiwan only?
jordache16 said:
So if the phone itself is $610 and the tablet with keyboard is $980, there is no way this thing will make it. However, their wording around the pricing is a little confusing. Maybe it is $980 for the phone, tablet and dock. But even so, I would never pay that much for this.
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I'm guessing it's $980 for the whole set, although the way it's worded in the article is admittedly a bit confusing. It wouldn't make sense for the padfone station with the keyboard dock to cost that much by itself, considering it's more than a prime with its keyboard dock, and the prime is actually a fully functioning tablet on its own, including on board memory, cpu etc., whereas the padfone station is just a shell for the phone with only some of the on board components of a tablet.
In any case, assuming my previous assumption is correct, $980 isn't that bad, considering the price you would pay for a separate phone and a tablet like the transformer with its keyboard dock. I wonder how much extra for the 32GB and 64GB models, considering that listed price is likely for the base 16GB model.
>$980 isn't that bad
In sales, never let the prospective buyer start talking about the price first. Sizzle always comes first, and price should be hidden away in a safe place until you finish the pitch. Once you got the mark to say "price isn't that bad," you know you've netted another one.
Anyway, as any purveyor of high-end toys would say, if you have to ask about the price, this isn't for you. The niche that this product targets is not price sensitive.
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So Taiwan only?
I'm guessing it's $980 for the whole set, although the way it's worded in the article is admittedly a bit confusing. It wouldn't make sense for the padfone station with the keyboard dock to cost that much by itself, considering it's more than a prime with its keyboard dock, and the prime is actually a fully functioning tablet on its own, including on board memory, cpu etc., whereas the padfone station is just a shell for the phone with only some of the on board components of a tablet.
In any case, assuming my previous assumption is correct, $980 isn't that bad, considering the price you would pay for a separate phone and a tablet like the transformer with its keyboard dock. I wonder how much extra for the 32GB and 64GB models, considering that listed price is likely for the base 16GB model.
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32GB padfone is the only one model which will be sold in Taiwan.
some pictures from one Taiwanese website
tinyurl.com/bpagq2w
Do you guys know if you can buy just the phone? I'm looking for an upgrade in the next 3-4 months an the specs of the phone seem just perfect for my needs. But i already have the TP so no need for the other stuff
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32GB padfone is the only one model which will be sold in Taiwan.
some pictures from one Taiwanese website
tinyurl.com/bpagq2w
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So then what about USA?
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What is the point of this anyways. Why buy this instead of a separate phone and tablet...
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The value would be:
1. All info (photos, video, downloaded files, documents, etc.) stored in one place and accessible in both phone and tablet formats.
2. One cellular plan used with both phone and tablet formats (assuming the carriers go along with it). So, imagine your usual phone and data line, only usable for both a phone and a tablet (without the pain and hassle of tethering).
3. Ability to switch instantly from the phone to the tablet in terms of workflow. Imagine taking notes on the phone and deciding you'd rather take them on the tablet. Rather than saving the note on the phone, switching to a tablet, navigating to and opening the note on the tablet, and finding your place, you just pop the phone in the tablet and keep working. Now imagine the same with the keyboard dock.
4. Instant charger for the phone. Running low on the phone's battery? Toss it into the tablet for a quick recharge. Maybe even while on a call.
I can see some real advantages to such a platform. If it came to Sprint and the phone was nicely subsidized, and $370 for the tablet, stylus/headset, keyboard dock, I'd give it a strong look.
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It'll be cheaper, assuming it makes it to the US and gets carrier subsidy. That's the trick--navigating the carrier negotiations to get it approved, since you can't just pop in a SIM and use it. It may happen (for the US), since it would be a good halo device. Then again, the Moto Atrix didn't quite set any sales record.
The price isn't unreasonable once you account for all the trappings. But it's a sticker shock at first glance, because the iPad's $500 reference price is firmly ensconced in buyers' minds. "First-glance" eval can be make-or-break. It's definitely a niche item, even more than the usual 4G-enabled tablets. One indicator will be whether XDA gets enough requests to make a forum for it. But given the dearth of high-end Android tabs lately, it'll probably get a forum regardless.
I'm leery of its complexity. Asus has a less-than-stellar QC record with its tablets to date, both in hardware and firmware. Of course, prudence isn't exactly an early adopter trait, and kids must have their shiny toys. Prime users will have ample company in extolling their love of Asus products.
I re-watched the PadFone announcement to take stock, and Shih dude always cracks me up. He's the definition of "camp."
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It might not come to the US. When it was announced at WMC I emailed Hai at asus because I wanted to know if they would also sell the handset separately without the tablet because I really like the handset but cant justify spending that much on a 4th tablet (I have the tf 101, 201 and a HTC evo view) he replied with this: I hope it does change because I am fond of the handset
"For the Padfone. I do not think it will be released in North American shores. The market it too saturated over here with cellular devices and our partnerships with USA/CANADA cellular carriers view it the same way. I’ll let you know if this changes."
>I emailed Hai at asus
Since Hai is more forthcoming about Asus info, and is a tech mgr, perhaps you can send him a query about the getting of NVFlash to work alongside the BL unlock. Seems to be a point of complaints around here, and I didn't see much movement in getting the matter to Asus' attention.
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>One cellular plan used with both phone and tablet formats
From the rumblings, untied data plan is coming to US carriers anyway. From the users' view, it doesn't make sense to pay multiple data plans, now that multiple-device ownership is more common. From the carriers' view, it would be good business, since the tied-plan requirement undoubtedly inhibits sales of other devices. The more devices the user owns = the more bandwidth he's likely to use = the higher capacity plan he's likely to buy.
>Ability to switch instantly from the phone to the tablet in terms of workflow
That's the promise of all these all-in-one (AIO) devices, but the devil is in the details. Historically, most fall short. Asus doesn't have a track record in high-end consumer electronics, and its present record in tablet isn't encouraging. We'll see when the reviews roll in.
Anyway, as graffixnyc mentioned, I don't see this coming to the US. Asus has little presence in the US smartphone market. Carriers tend to be a conservative lot.
I don't see why tethering can't just apart of data plans at no additional charge; i'd willing to give-up my 'unlimited' data, that they throttle anyways, for 5gigs a month. In exchange to be able to use my phone as a wifi spot for my tablet for important needs. Hell, I don't even get close to using 5gigs of data a month anyways.
Most places have a Wifi spot, but it seems that the most ideal places to take advantage of a mobile entertainment/productivity device, are locations that don't offer Wifi. For example, sitting outside for 30min. waiting for the kids to get out of school. Inside a doctors office around complete strangers that no one really wants to socialize with.
That's why this idea of the padfone kind of makes me upset. It's just another way to force consumers into something that should already have been integrated, and can ALREADY be supported by most devices on the market.
In closing, I'm looking forward to what Windows 8 platform has to offer in the next couple of years. Whether or not people want to admit it, Windows is the most widely used O/S in terms of user end. So ALL devices under one platform, given the support from one of the biggest and most successful companies, with a 'little' bit of the freedom linux/android has. Will be really exciting.
For now, I'll enjoy my iPhone4 and ATP! I'll probably trade the i4 for a android once I qualify for an upgrade. I due love the prime, but again, can't use it in some places I'd like to use it most.
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Interested in knowing what ASUS is up to for the rest of the year when it comes to the subject of tablets? You’re in luck because at a press event in Taipei today, Samson Hu, the Vice President and General Manager of the Eee Systems Business Unit revealed the company’s tablet roadmap for 2012.
The Transformer Prime will also be getting a 3G version sometime this March and it will pack a more powerful GPS module. At CES, ASUS will be unveiling a 7″ tablet (rumored to be the ASUS Memo) and a 10″ with a high resolution display (could be a completely new tablet or the upgraded Transformer Prime with 3G and better GPS). There are also two more 10″ tablets slated for the second half of 2012.
http://www.ubergizmo.com/2012/01/asus-tablet-roadmap-2012-revealed/
the fact that Asus is basically doubling it android division to like 400 or more employees and Windows 8 division will only have 150 employees doesn't look too good for Windows 8 at the moment. Clearly shows their focus is mainly on Android. Either way once Windows 8 releases, we will be able to load it up on Prime or dual boot. I'd rather be able to do that vs. a single OS device only. We already got Backtrack5(Hacker Linux) running on Prime so outlook looks good.
I feel like this is the bait and switch. They put out the Prime, it sells like hot cakes but disappoints some users. Then they learn from their mistakes at the cost of the consumer and introduce new products to correct the mistakes.
I'm really trying to be positive about this whole thing, but this really makes it difficult. This is where competition really bites the consumer in the ass.
adampdx said:
I feel like this is the bait and switch. They put out the Prime, it sells like hot cakes but disappoints some users. Then they learn from their mistakes at the cost of the consumer and introduce new products to correct the mistakes.
I'm really trying to be positive about this whole thing, but this really makes it difficult. This is where competition really bites the consumer in the ass.
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How is this bait and switch? Would you prefer that the next product they come out with still have the same problems some have complained about? I'm glad they're learning and are willing to put that knowledge to use on the next product. If companies didn't do that, we'd all be driving Model A cars.
soulctcher said:
How is this bait and switch? Would you prefer that the next product they come out with still have the same problems some have complained about? I'm glad they're learning and are willing to put that knowledge to use on the next product. If companies didn't do that, we'd all be driving Model A cars.
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+1 on that, even if I realize I'm lucky being Italian, which means that I had the chance to see various reactions and enough time to decide whether going for the Prime or not. Obviously, if Asus will announce the Prime 3G at CES, I'll wait for it since I have an Acer Iconia A500 in the meanwhile.
adampdx said:
I feel like this is the bait and switch. They put out the Prime, it sells like hot cakes but disappoints some users. Then they learn from their mistakes at the cost of the consumer and introduce new products to correct the mistakes.
I'm really trying to be positive about this whole thing, but this really makes it difficult. This is where competition really bites the consumer in the ass.
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It wasn't "bait and switch", unless the ONLY reason you bought a TFP was for the GPS. If you did, that's just sad...
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How is this bait and switch? Would you prefer that the next product they come out with still have the same problems some have complained about? I'm glad they're learning and are willing to put that knowledge to use on the next product. If companies didn't do that, we'd all be driving Model A cars.
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That's true. But what if they released the Model A, and then six months later released an updated Model A with more features? The people who bought the first Model A might feel burned. OK, I'm done being negative. I agree with your point of view, and I believe that progress is good. Sorry, super tired and still struggling with all of the buggers in the General forum that are trying really hard to make people not enjoy this super awesome tablet. I wish there was a "View Positive Posts Only" option in the XDA.
one will be called the transformer light! tf201x and tf201xg (found this info in the honeycomb system files!)
I am thinking they might go with maybe a 10.1 inch, higher than 1080p screen made of superlight plastic along with a super IPS++ display! Kinda like how you had a DS lite! along with 2gb of ram...... Hopefully it will be able to be used with the same dock as the tf201!
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That's true. But what if they released the Model A, and then six months later released an updated Model A with more features? The people who bought the first Model A might feel burned. OK, I'm done being negative. I agree with your point of view, and I believe that progress is good. Sorry, super tired and still struggling with all of the buggers in the General forum that are trying really hard to make people not enjoy this super awesome tablet. I wish there was a "View Positive Posts Only" option in the XDA.
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I get what you're saying.
(I do want to point out though that it was almost the exact scenario between the first Model A and the first Model B...it was about 6 months between their releases back in 1903/1904.)
You just have to bite the bullet on technology purchases in general; find yourself something you want to buy, then realize that just after you unboxed it, it's no longer the top dog anymore.
I think what Adam is trying to say is it sucks doing research and sinking hard earned money into something that 6 months later will be yesterdays news. I know that's the way it goes but still kind of disappointing. I'm looking for that complete product. Gets expensive ebaying the old and sinking several hundred into another new product.
On another front for those RMA'ing the Prime for GPS issues and ASUS saying they will fix, could they be putting in a Beefier GPS like what's in the upcoming ones? Just a thought.
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That is kind of weird, I would expect them to put more people on windows instead of android. I love android for what it is but I feel like windows is just a much more complete platform. I mean its a little early to judge how well windows 8 is going to run on ARM systems, if its anything close to the windows 8 I installed on my eee slate (ULV i5), then I think it's going be incredible.
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Gets expensive ebaying the old and sinking several hundred into another new product.
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The unfortunate cost of surfing the front wave of technology, right?
i plan on waiting for CES then if something cooler with way better specs comes out I will RMA my dock and tablet plus case to amazon (will only lose about 100 bucks...)
But they catch is it needs to be out within a few weeks after CES!
But anyways we all know we will have tegra4 this summer! kael+ so yeah technology is always moving forward! they never stop and try to squeeze all they life out of it like Game consoles have (ps3 and xbox now 5 years old!)
You just gotta get something stick with your purchase and be happy! then in a year to a year and a half sell it and buy something new!
I plan on buying the Galaxy Nexus when it is released on sprint! even though the next nexus will probaly be out 8 months later!
But i badly need the replacement i cant stand my evo 4g that wont charge unless you hold down the cord! its a pain in the but!
Plus i know the galaxy nexus software will be supported for atleast 20 months long enough to get me to my next upgrade!!
So if you want it buy it basically you cant stop better stuff from coming out!
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Those in the U.S., unless offered by a carrier, a 3G Prime will do you absolutely no good. HTC, LG, Sony, Acer, Archos, Samsung, and Motorola all already offer carrier-free 3G tablets, none of which are available in the U.S. You can import a 3G Prime from overseas but it'll cost you $700ish. If you get a carrier version, you'll either pay $700ish or have to commit to a two year data plan to get a subsidized price. So unless Asus does something that they nor any manufacturer have never done before, bring a 3G device to the U.S. without carrier support, the 3G announcement doesn't mean a whole lot here. And the iPad's not a relevant comparison. Apple dictates what the carriers do, not vice versa. Asus isn't Apple.
As for a higher spec 10" tablet that makes all the sense in the world. With the Lenovo and Acer already announced with higher-res displays, more RAM, and faster processors, Asus should offer a more premium tablet priced higher than the Prime to compete. Display resolution (whether it matters or not) is going to be the hot topic in tablets in 2012. Venturing a guess, I'd say the premium tablet won't have a keyboard dock still leaving that as the Prime's biggest singular feature.
In spite of all issues I am still buying prime. Why? I don't care about gps - i didn't intend to use it as gps-turn-by-turn device anyway, I love its performance, I love the fact, that we will get unlock tool, I hope we as xda-community will be able to run Win8 and Ubuntu on it.
In regard to other announced primes:
- 3g version - I have good internet plan on my mobile, even now I am just ad-hoc connected from my eee 1000he, i dont plan to sign any other contract for mobile carriers. They are literary robbing me every month anyway .
- HD version in H2. If it is announced for H2, it will be avalible in the week before Christmas in Q4, not a day sooner. I need tablet earlier.
HD screen? Why would you need it? -For movies? -For Christ sake it's a tablet, go to your living room and watch a move on 47'' LCD! If you are away from home - 720p should suffice.
can't wait for windows 8 tablets I will be first in line to get one I really have a lot of games and programs that will only run on windows that I would love to have on tablet.
jdbaker82 said:
can't wait for windows 8 tablets I will be first in line to get one I really have a lot of games and programs that will only run on windows that I would love to have on tablet.
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Programs that currently run on Windows under x86/x64 technology won't run under the ARM version of Windows unless someone compiles a version specifically for ARM processors. In fact most information out there states that the classic desktop interface won't be available on the ARM devices, only the metro interface.
Its pretty screwey for a company to release improved versions of a tablet (in less than 6 months).
A lot of Primes have major defects (GPS is broken on all primes but GPS isnt the only defect some primes have), i was lucky and finally got one that seems perfect so far but I had to order two, first one was crap (bad wifi,bad bluetooth,slow performance,long bootup time,screen bleed and a lot of FCs in apps).
Even apple gives people at least a year before they drop on a new and improved product. To me it def sounds like bait and switch sales tactics...
Oh well, my prime now is working well (i don't need gps) and i don't see a reason to upgrade for at least a year.
jdbaker82 said:
can't wait for windows 8 tablets I will be first in line to get one I really have a lot of games and programs that will only run on windows that I would love to have on tablet.
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See this is why windows 8 tablet edition is doomed.
The majority of people honestly believe they'll be getting the same windows they'd be getting on a desktop or laptop.
Windows 8 tablet is ARM, not x86. Meaning that you will only be able to run things developed or ported for ARM. You will NOT be able to just run any windows program.
It's yet another OS that needs things written for it specifically trying to play catch up with android and apples app market. I can't see it being useful at all for at least 6 months unless it's incredibly easy to port apps over, and I'm guessing it won't be considering you're looking at different APIs between OSes.
The only leg up this thing has over RIM, HP, and anyone else running something non ios/android is windows has name recognition and large market share in the x86 world. I imagine a lot of folks will be pissed to discover their exes won't just work on a tablet win8 though since I see folks constantly getting this wrong.
One of the things I like about the Prime is the price: $499 is still an industry-leading price for a leading-edge tablet with 32GB storage. I'm guessing that any sort of uber-Prime (HD screen, 2GB RAM, etc.) will be considerably more expensive.
I'm willing to go $650 for the Prime+keyboard dock. Anything more than that and I'd just bite the bullet and step up to an ultrabook and Kindle Fire combo.
Just wondered how much of an impact this new device was having on pre order cancellations.
I've been looking forward to this device for over 6 months. We've essentially ended up with a broken/prototype device whilst Asus promote a *fixed* version.
This is disgusting as far as customer relations go. I'm almost certainly cancelling my pre order tomorrow. Hoping to hear a statement from Asus regarding this complete mess!
Please post screens of your cancelled orders. May be if we can get some numbers regarding impact Asus may listen.
Regards,
One pi55ed off potential customer
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Ive owned my prime for 4 days now, the announcement was the last straw though.
GPS dead, wifi crippled, and now asus is pretty much jumping ship to their new prime 2.0..
Im working on returning it for a refund right now.
I wish I had preordered just to be able to go in and cancel, I'd hope that the store would be left with lots on the shelf. That's the only way we could expect our voices to be heard.
There are far too many people willing to ignore this situation that nothing is going to be done about it.
The TF700 announcement made up my mind
Once Asus started pushing the new model, the message came to me loud and clear.
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Well, I didn't cancel a pre-order but mine was RMA'd for replacement. I switched that to a refund...not too sure if I'm going to bother with ASUS or just wait to see what else is available.
I talked with an agent so I haven't got an email confirmation yet but I'll post when I do.
Here's an announcement for a tab with 1.7 ghz Tegra 3, DDR3 memory and SRS sound.
http://www.engadget.com/2012/01/08/lenovo-lepad-k2010-ideatab-k2-hands-on/
I would be very angry if the TF700T was priced closer to TF201. Now that would really make me send it back with a nasty letter to Asus. But the fact that it's $100 more for both 32 and 64GB, that tells me Asus didn't just "jump ship". The learned from their stupid mistakes, made a new one and are selling it right alongside with the current one. That means the best bang for your buck tablet is still a Transformer Prime that's only $600 with a 64GB storage.
What bothers me though is the fact that Asus could barely meet demands with this whole pre-order fiasco and has the ****ing balls to go ahead and actually spent time (time that should have been focused on getting me my goddamned Prime) to come out with another product to sell. That tells me either they have A.D.D. or they have A.D.D. and all they want is money. How can they leave the people who pre-ordered left hanging to dry? That, to me, is a piece of **** company.
At this point though I have no choice but to stick to my Prime (TF201) pre-order because my Xoom has been hijacked by my 2-year old and I need a tablet badly --meaning waiting isn't an option and buying another Tegra 2 would be going backwards at this point. FML.
I deal mostly with media and games, the office work belongs to Windows. The TF700 is ideal for streaming hd video specially now that I've upgraded to 6 mbps on my dsl to watch the Netflix hd movies. The new res standards are out and I will let the dust settle before deciding.
As the trend indicates, one thing is for sure, Asus moves faster than other tablet manufacturers.
The new TF700T feels like a "filler". By Q4 and the 2012 holidays, they will have the true 3rd gen Transformer. So whoever pays the extra $100 for the TF700T model, might be in for some serious buyer's remorse. Think about it.
TF1 -> TF2 -> TF2.5 -> (only a few months from the summer) and you've got TF3. Like I said in another thread. The TF700T are for those who badly need the GPS. The higher resolution at a premium of $100 more is baloney. As for the 2MP front-facing camera? That's a gimmick. From 1.3MP to 2MP means nothing. Take it from a photographer and someone who has an 8MP webcam that's supposedly "HD" and "1080p". Skyping still looks crappy.
I'm not knocking on the TF700T, but if you guys want to drop the TF201 for it, think about it really hard. Like I said before, the best bang for your buck is still the TF201. Line up all the Android tablets and you will see all the specs are similar except for the fact that for the same price in a Galaxy Tab 10.1 or a Xoom/Xoom 2, you can have an Asus with double the storage. That to me is very important as I sync my DSLR wirelessly to my tablet to show clients my shots in real time... and RAW files eat storage space like no one's business.
I understand that Asus is pushing products out the order ahead of the others but in their haste the product design and performance turned out faulty. I'm looking forward to the 700 simply because it appears the problem is fixed and the specs are better although I'd like to see a faster clock to handle the higher res.
I just got shafted, Mediamarkt said no returns on licensed products, whatever the phuck that means.
So I guess the dead GPS and shoddy Wifi are "on me".
Asus issued the warranty so you should contact them next to present your case, good luck!
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I understand that Asus is pushing products out the order ahead of the others but in their haste the product design and performance turned out faulty. I'm looking forward to the 700 simply because it appears the problem is fixed and the specs are better although I'd like to see a faster clock to handle the higher res.
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You can rely on devs here to bring that to you in due time, regarding the faster clock speeds. The CPU and GPU will be the same. So it doesn't matter what the clock speeds are set at since you can always change it later on anyway.
I can't blame Asus for designing the aluminum back the way they did. I'm pretty sure their R&D department felt the pressure from higher up to make it so that it pretty much sells as a bundle with the dock. Meaning, they probably said something along the line as "Design the tablet so that people would definitely feel compelled to buy the dock." Hence the designers made it look all aluminum so that when it's shut close with the dock, it looks sexier than a MacBook Air. Remember how Asus was bragging about the swirled brush aluminum design? It was a decision to make a chic looking ultra portable device. I don't think it was in haste, but I do believe the GPS flaw as a result was in hindsight.
As for the TF700T, let's face it. People who will buy that will definitely say "What an ugly netbook this makes!" It looks like two separate devices that clicks into one with the top bit looking really out of place. I have never seen a laptop, in all the years of owning laptops, with a black bar on top like that. That was what Asus wanted to avoid with the TF201 --the matching color, material and texture so that when you buy the dock, you gawk in awe at the handsome "transforming" device.
so whos pissed they cancelled before ICS came out and fixed a majority of the issues?
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I just got shafted, Mediamarkt said no returns on licensed products, whatever the phuck that means.
So I guess the dead GPS and shoddy Wifi are "on me".
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Yeah, Asus will and should cover you. No worries. Get their international toll-free number and give them a call.
Also emphasize the fact that the metal case affects not just gps but wifi and bt as well though not as pronounced is still below par.
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so whos pissed they cancelled before ICS came out and fixed a majority of the issues?
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As someone who has had ICS on my Xoom for about a month now, not to mention waking up to CM9 this morning, I am definitely looking forward to the development on the TF201 Prime. I, for one, am contemplating getting back into devving for the Prime.
Though I like and appreciate the artwork, it is not a prime consideration for me. It can be as rugged and ugly as a military grade laptop as long as the specs are working as advertised. I'm starting to like the 700 because of the new specs that will function without any mods. In that respect, no mod will come up with the 1080p res without slowng it down.
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Also emphasize the fact that the metal case affects not just gps but wifi and bt as well though not as pronounced is still below par.
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The WiFi and BT issue is software, I think. Correct me if I'm wrong. The slower WiFi and shoddy BT due to the aluminum backing is a myth started by paranoid early Prime adaptors. Apple has been making aluminum and magnesium unibodies with no WiFi or BT problems. Concrete or whatever your house has are bigger factors. GPS is a different story.
These wireless devices work on rf with differing frequencies and that affects their ability to pass through or penetrate barries. It could be a combination hw/sw, I'm not exactly sure until they put it on a bench and run a battery of tests. That's what really irritates me about Asus, they've done nothing but cover up the problems.
PHP:
[The Asus $249 quad-core tablet. Tegra 3]
I'll wait for this to hit. Too much of a sour taste in my mouth over the NT. This will DESTROY the NT sales. Now to post this on the BN site.
http://ces.cnet.com/2300-33378_1-10010865.html?tag=contentMain;mGalleryUL
The Transformer Prime TF700T will likely be the first tablet released to sport a 2.3-million-pixel, 1,920x1,200 screen. For those keeping count, that's more than twice the pixel count of any previous tablets, which top out at 1,280x800 (1.02 millions pixels).
Read more: http://ces.cnet.com/2300-33378_1-10010873.html?tag=contentMain;mGalleryUL#ixzz1j4p6uOSt
i have to say, this tablet is tempting - esp for the price. i wish there was a release date mentioned though. i've really gotten used to having the nook tablet and would hate to return it and wait for months for the asus to be released.
i thought i read the march thru june time frame but i cannot find that reference anywhere.... soon(tm)
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PHP:
[The Asus $249 quad-core tablet. Tegra 3]
I'll wait for this to hit. Too much of a sour taste in my mouth over the NT. This will DESTROY the NT sales.
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Ha ha, no.
This will not "destroy" Nook Tablet sales. The Asus may be big among tech types, but the NT wasn't made for tech types. It was made for moms and grandmas. The fact that it can be hacked means nothing to the target audience. The Asus won't cut into NT sales at all. Nook has way better name recognition and that's really all that matters to people considering something like the Nook. If they can't afford an ipad, they'll want a nook or a kindle, because that's the thing everyone has heard of. No one's ever going to go "hey wait, this model from a company I've barely heard of does more than the nook." They're going to go with the tab that has the most name recognition and publicity. It's the same reason people buy ipads when they could get tabs that do a lot more, for a lot less. Specs don't matter to the tablet layman. People like that just want what they've heard of and what everyone else has.
Again, for tech types, the Asus tab may blow the Nook out of the water. But most people considering the nook aren't tech types. As such, I'm guessing the Asus won't affect Nook sales even slightly.
Great. All that remains is: When?
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Lets hope they don't lock the bootloader.
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Lets hope they don't lock the bootloader.
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That'd be a kick in the teeth, wouldn't it?
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The bootloader on the Transformer prime was locked so i wouldnt put it past asus to lock the 7incher as well
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Nook has way better name recognition and that's really all that matters to people considering something like the Nook.
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Don't forget Asus kicked ass among the non-techie crowd with netbooks. I'd argue that not only do they have better name recognition than the Nook, they have far better marketing and product distribution as well.
It's too early to tell for sure, but if any company could make a cheap tablet as successful as they made cheap netbooks, it's Asus.
Meanwhile, B&N strikes me as a company that can barely manage to sell anything even to people that wanted the Nook Tablet.
With Amazon the Kindle is a highly recognized brand, but the Nook is far less so from what I've seen. I find that when people see the NT, they tend to ask "Hey, is that that new Kindle?" When told it's a Nook, the most common reaction is "The what...?"
great news
but maybe a long time to wait
It does sound awfully tempting, but I'm going to hold onto my NT and, depending on how at Asus tablet does, sell my NT on Craigslist and upgrade.
A locked bootloader is less of a problem when you aren't locking normal features down in your own ROM. Leave my sideloading and USB host intact, and my need for hacks decreases dramatically. But for the record, they released an official unlocker tool on the prime at the cost of voiding your warranty, so you have options.
This is INCREDIBLY tempting. Has anyone returned their NT under the extended holiday return policy? Is it as simple as saying "I don't want it", because I'm really feeling buyer's remorse for the first time. There doesn't seem to be any upside to NT at all (other than that it is available today, not a quarter from now).
$250 for more features with fewer restrictions...
Yes. Many of us have returned it without any problems.
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my kids want tablets, and i know damn well that tablets will be in their schools sooner or later, so i think i'll probably get the asus 7" OR the transformer prime in 3-4 months(read after tax refund)
Sounds great, expect for the fact that it probably won't be released until this summer, if not later. In the meantime, I shall continue to enjoy my nook tablet.
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It does sound awfully tempting, but I'm going to hold onto my NT and, depending on how at Asus tablet does, sell my NT on Craigslist and upgrade.
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That's the way I feel. I wouldn't get my hopes up. Something always happens... crappy wi-fi, delayed launch, price had to go up, propriatary cables, ect... I wouldn't count on it until I see it.
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my kids want tablets, and i know damn well that tablets will be in their schools sooner or later, so i think i'll probably get the asus 7" OR the transformer prime in 3-4 months(read after tax refund)
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Yeah because little kids really need quad-core *tablets*...
I still can't believe people think tablets are real productivity devices. Not trying to single you out here, but a laptop is infinitely better for productivity. Tablets, at their core, are entertainment (movies, music, reading, internet, games) devices with the ability for extremely light information gathering.
The thing that alarms me the most is that people seem to forget that instead of using a lot of these gadgets for schoolwork, kids will most likely just use them for games. At least when I was in grade school we had Math Blaster and that reading adventure game.
/rant for no particular reason
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Yeah because little kids really need quad-core *tablets*...
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Well actually, he never said his kids were little. They could be teenagers, in which case I'd think a tablet would be right up their alley.
Also, what's wrong with owning a device that's not solely focused on productivity? Laptops are great but tablets are also really fun. And now that they're dropping in price, I can see why more parents would want to get them for their kids. Especially when you consider the fact that most kids probably want an ipad, which is super expensive AND unproductive. I can see $200 tabs being a nice alternative for parents who want to get their kids tablets without paying ipad prices.
They are 7,7(bg twins) and 10
3 private schools in my area- one of which boys only- are currently switching to tablet only instead of books - BECAUSE- they weighed the books a senior in highschool needed...41lbs of books & the cost to parents was 975 dollars JUST FOR THE BOOKS.
one of my friends is an athletic director/health science teacher and he uses his tablet(an ipad) for every class. it hooks into his overhead projector/display, he takes attendance, has all his notes, classwork, Everything is on his ipad for his work, ALL the teachers for the school are using them.
the state of maine is in the process of switching over, burlington ma the schools are all switching over, several schools are phasing in tablets, with a few starting as young as kindergarten.
by the time my 7yr olds graduate from high school, i predict that about half the country will be tablet only for schools
Just wondering what people think of the Padfone?
I might be late to this (most probably am), however i Just saw a few reviews about the padfone and now it looks very tempting to wait for it instead of ordering the Prime tomorrow.
I heard they'll be announcing it properly at the MWC...I guess it'll be 2 months after that, so around the tf700 time.
What do people think? Is it a gimmick that wouldn't get used? or something that could have a lot of potential?
Here's a video i saw that caught my eye
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=z5aAOKJGBjo
It's attractive to folks who want to avoid paying for both a phone plan and a Tablet data plan and don't want to tether. Other than that it's gimmicky.
Wifi availability restricts your usage...
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Nice one Asus.
But not tempted, you can always wait for the next best thing. I also wonder if you can utilize this padfone fully without a phone in it.
I have more questions about this thing than I do answers, such as:
1. What carriers will support the phone? If it's not available on Sprint, it's a moot point for me.
2. Does the tablet support a dock? I've seen rumors that it will support the original Transformer dock, but no confirmation. If it doesn't, then it's also moot for me--I wouldn't get a tablet without an integrated keyboard dock.
3. Not to be unkind towards ASUS (I think there's too much of that going around already), but they've struggled making the Prime a reliable and consistent product so far. I wonder if they'll be better at making this thing, given that it's another order of magnitude more complex.
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I have more questions about this thing than I do answers, such as:
1. What carriers will support the phone? If it's not available on Sprint, it's a moot point for me.
2. Does the tablet support a dock? I've seen rumors that it will support the original Transformer dock, but no confirmation. If it doesn't, then it's also moot for me--I wouldn't get a tablet without an integrated keyboard dock.
3. Not to be unkind towards ASUS (I think there's too much of that going around already), but they've struggled making the Prime a reliable and consistent product so far. I wonder if they'll be better at making this thing, given that it's another order of magnitude more complex.
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There's a video where am asus rep confirms it working with the tf101 dock. And to the poster above you, the tablet won't work at all without the phone in it
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wynand32 said:
I have more questions about this thing than I do answers, such as:
1. What carriers will support the phone? If it's not available on Sprint, it's a moot point for me.
2. Does the tablet support a dock? I've seen rumors that it will support the original Transformer dock, but no confirmation. If it doesn't, then it's also moot for me--I wouldn't get a tablet without an integrated keyboard dock.
3. Not to be unkind towards ASUS (I think there's too much of that going around already), but they've struggled making the Prime a reliable and consistent product so far. I wonder if they'll be better at making this thing, given that it's another order of magnitude more complex.
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1) It will probably be sold as an unlocked sim card device!
2) it will dock! If you look on one video i watched the had a battery widget that showed phone tablet and dock battery life on it... And you can see the dock connectors on it!
But it's really cool a phone that docks in a tablet that docks in a keyboard! You could probably get like 24 hours of battery for the phone on 4g
3) what's complex about it it uses a micro hdmi to display the image to the tablet and a micro usb to charge the phone and communicate the touch portion of it... It's basically just a glorified touchscreen monitor
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Over the top IMHO, is the tablet just a case and phone screen enlarger, or are they 2 devices who can work together when needed and fully functional when separate?
I praise the courage of the concept, yet I don't feel engaged by it, others may disagree...
Cheers
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3) what's complex about it it uses a micro hdmi to display the image to the tablet and a micro usb to charge the phone and communicate the touch portion of it... It's basically just a glorified touchscreen monitor
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Not to be overly harsh, a few months ago I'd have asked, "What's so complex about the Prime?" I never would have expected so many build and design issues. Here we have a phone that has to sit inside a tablet and:
1. Have everything fit well, with no issues with tolerance. If some part is a tiny bit off, then the phone doesn't fit, or the cover doesn't close, or a connector abrades against a port and bends/breaks something, etc.
2. The phone sites inside the tablet. Yet, it provides all radio functionality (cell, GPS, wifi, Bluetooth). If the Prime has radio issues, imagine what could happen with this thing. And no, I don't think it's so easy to say, "Well, they just shouldn't use an all-metal back." The whole thing needs to be carefully design to ensure that all radios perform well.
I'm not saying ASUS absolutely can't design and manufacture this thing well, but after the Prime, I do have my doubts. Do note that I've had six Primes so far, and every single one has had a defect significant enough to warrant a replacement. So, maybe I'm a bit jaded.
Everyone always talking about this show or next show worth waiting for. Lol. People said same thing about one that just passed, and basically was a fail. As far as showing anything to beat the prime out. Asus already said it'll be June at the earliest when you will see the TF-700. Once people get that, they will be in for a big surprise. AROUND the same time or afterwards is when the next upgrade to tegra3 chip will be announced, Kal El+, or they might just jump to next one and forget the refresh. Its always about waiting for the next best thing. Of you do then you'll be waiting forever. Lmao
Plus what does this thread have to do with Prime?
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Everyone always talking about this show or next show worth waiting for. Lol. People said same thing about one that just passed, and basically was a fail. As far as showing anything to beat the prime out. Asus already said it'll be June at the earliest when you will see the TF-700. Once people get that, they will be in for a big surprise. AROUND the same time or afterwards is when the next upgrade to tegra3 chip will be announced, Kal El+, or they might just jump to next one and forget the refresh. Its always about waiting for the next best thing. Of you do then you'll be waiting forever. Lmao
Plus what does this thread have to do with Prime?
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You answered your own question when You started timing about getting the tf700 or the current device...being the prime
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You answered your own question when You started timing about getting the tf700 or the current device...being the prime
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yeah..lmfao. I'm just happy a got a great working Prime from 12/22. I use this thing so much its crazy. I used my Ipad the other day, it didn't even feel right anymore. felt bulky n heavy n alot slower than my prime. can't lie, I am interested to see what the competition will bring.
These combo thingies sound cool until somebody actually tries to use one. To wit the Moto Atrix and the stillborn Palm Foleo.
The Panasonic WiGig demo (Engadget blurb) looks much more versatile and practical. No need for proprietary phone & dock. Xmit module in phone + rcv module in laptop/tablet/TV = 60fps fullHD remote access or dumb display.
Nice concept, but I already have a good Android phone (Galaxy Nexus).
Why would I want one?
As for now, I won't go with Prime ... too much issues ... random built quality ... pogo pins will wear out (not tight) sooner or later ... flawed design ...
TF700 would be much better option, but I need to wait a month or two for real review and teardown, learning from Prime debacles ...
Or probably waiting other brand like Samsung upcoming 11.6" , that is interesting.
Yeah, we can wait and wait and wait ... but at this moment, I won't "force" my-self to accept mediocre/dodgy products.
MWC is just less than 1 month anyway ...
And I can still live my life without tablet! Galaxy Nexus serves me well enough
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Just wondering what people think of the Padfone?
I might be late to this (most probably am), however i Just saw a few reviews about the padfone and now it looks very tempting to wait for it instead of ordering the Prime tomorrow.
I heard they'll be announcing it properly at the MWC...I guess it'll be 2 months after that, so around the tf700 time.
What do people think? Is it a gimmick that wouldn't get used? or something that could have a lot of potential?
Here's a video i saw that caught my eye
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=z5aAOKJGBjo
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I agree, this is exactly what I think ! Why would we buy an unfinished product ? I can live with no GPS, but not with a bad WIFI reception. It's so stupid to pay 700€ for a MOBILE device which would not allow me to connect to a WIFI router in hotels/restaurants unless I'm sticked to it ...
A lot of people say "The TF700 solved these problems, let's wait for it", but I only partially agree :
- this is said by Asus, but can we still believe them ? I am not confident anymore in the build quality of Asus. We already had problems with the TF101 and other laptops / netbooks made by Asus.
- Even if the TF700 works very well, the high 1080p resolution will let it work slower than the "normal" 1280x800 TF201 resolution. We still need to know if it will be fast enough for everything and everyone (we all want our tablet to be as fast as possible, right ?)
- Asus will not be the only Tegra 3 maker in the next months : every other brands will sell their own Tegra 3 tablets, beginning in April with Acer (A510). And there will be new comers like HTC and Lenovo (the lenovo tab will have a Tegra 3 running at 1.6 GHZ and 2Go of RAM !).
Asus wanted to be the first one to sell a Tegra 3 tablet, but they did it too fast, now we have to use an unfinished product and use tricks like pinching the back cover to let it work as it should (and still, even with this trick it works better but not really as it should)... Is this serious ???
So I will now wait for other brands "Tegra 3" tablets, I'm done with Asus.
So TFP was supposed to be the best Android tablet when it came out (now it's TFP 700). It was not a terrible product by any means but it did fall short of expectations.
It's broken GPS, sketchy wifi, horrible web browser (if not rooted) and low read/write speeds making everything slower compared to the cheapest android tablet out there. But besides all that it works and works pretty well.
Now that I've experienced the best of Android, I can't spend any money on it again for a similar experience.
I think I'll try MS Surface when it comes out. If nothing else at least the web browsing won't be as terrible as on TFP.
I think I take Google Nexus 7 and if Google provide 10 Inc Tablet I take it. Asus good company, but they support very poor. If Flagship like Prime doesn't work properly (but I very like this Tab, I use Prime every day, and Tablet very good) I think Asus not interesting to support they devices, they only interesting to sell. If they provide very good firmware with all new features, like Android 4,1 ,like kernel 3,1+ and other, and this firmware work grate and long battary live, I change my mind and take next Tablet from Asus and tell my Friend that this good deal and if they have Tablet they need Asus
If I could get my money back for my prime, I'd probably get the Nexus 7. Or just upgrade my phone
When I bought the prime a month ago (c4) I was aware of a lot of it shortcommings.
For me the prime works fine within its limitations. So my clear statement. I will stick with my prime at least
till next summer.
Then I will look may be a sufface pro or an ultrabook with touchscreen or even if Win 8 fails for me a new Win 7 ultrabook.
And I hear a lot of people think same.
The real looser are the current untrabook and notebook producer. Same like me a lot of ppl simple wait.
So again I stuck with the prime and I stuck with my 4 years old Dell notebook.
Absolutely not. The prime took form over function to a degree where it proved to be near useless on my trip- the reason I bought it. ASUS will not get another dime from me.
I have given up on Asus. I was hoping HTC would make the Nexus tablet. I have had great success with HTC Phones. This TFP was junk. From random reboots, sleep of death, horrible gps, and don't get me started on the WiFi! I like Samsung but their GPS is just as bad. I will pass on the Nexus 7.
I already pre-ordered the Nexus 7. Here is to hoping that with the support of Google, that Asus and Nvidia can get this one right!!
Why could we need a new tablet ?
I mean, here we all have a Tegra3 based - Super IPS panel - Aluminium ...
Alright, the GPS isn't so good (however not too bad) and ICS is a bit rough but I don't think that today there is any other tablet able to overcome ou TFP : TF700 simply has a 1080p panel and the nexus 7 has Jellybean (which will come soon at our TFP and probably fix somes issues).
I don't believe that there is any competitor for us, who just bought a 600 €/$ tablet 6 month ago ....
Thanks to one broken mainboard and the still remaining problems with screen flickering and the bootloader unlocker I am pretty sure, that ASUS will never ever get money from me again
A tablet for that much money and the screen is flickering and I cant unlock it? Due to this + bad WIFI and unusable GPS (which I would have accepted) this tablet is the worst investment in hardware I did in the past few years...
I just wanted a great gadget, now I cant even play with it, due to the locked bootloader that is not unlockable for me and many others
Asus is crap. I will never buy one of their products ever again, and will be sure to spread this opinion to all friends and family who ask me for tech advice.
Love my Prime, but will not be buying another ASUS product either.
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Love my Prime, but will not be buying another ASUS product either.
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I am with you on that one.
LOL...a lot of people bought their Primes as a POSSIBLE replacement to a laptop.
My Alienware M18 has replaced my Prime, and I think I will go with a M11 Alienware to replace my Prime.
BUT, even a 4k laptop is not without its problems. AMD has yet to provide a proper driver for dual 7970m GPU's......:crying:
So you know what Asus is probably on par with other manufactures, always caught up in the hardware/specs race and not fully ready to release a product.
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You know what, yeah i still do love my Prime, I know its flakey, but its great to sit on the couch and struggle trying to browse the internet. Plus its great on the crapper.
Crazy how things work though, my GS3 is now more powerful than my Prime...Geez it's only been 6 months
I run a business from my TFP. It's my baby. I think asus has been very accommodating. I can think of no other company that rolls out this manyupdates.
Regarding the problems, I think people exaggerate. Let's look at each one.
Browser issue. I've never really had any problem with my browser. But if I did, I have dozens of alternatives on the play store.
Dodgy wifi. There are 3 primes within my arms' reach. There's a c3, c4, and c5. I'm sorry, but I haven't seen any problem with the wifi.
Screen flickering. Again, I haven't seen any of that.
GPS. Ok, so only 1 out of the 3 primes I mentioned have working gps. But so what? Honestly, how many people use their prime as a gps device to navigate around? I'm the only person I've ever heard of to use a tablet as a gps navigation device. Also, don't you have a smart phone with a gps? Why not bluetooth it to your prime to navigate if you need to do it that bad?
I'm not saying I don't believe people are having these issues. I just don't believe these issues are that widespread. In my business, I can tell you that people seem to have 2 universal characteristics when it comes to their tech stuff. (1) People almost always blame someone/something else rather than themselves, and (2) people tend to exaggerate the problem.
For example, there was a guy that needed to send his tablet to me to fix. He swore up and down that it just stopped turning on and that it was asus's design flaw. When I received it in the mail, it was VERY VERY obvious to me that he had dropped it and the power button was depressed and out of alignment with the inner button. There was also another guy who crammed TWO micro-sd cards into the micro sdcard slot and ruined both his cards and the slot. He also swore up and down to me that it was asus's design flaw. Then there was the water damage case that, again, the owner swore up and down his prime was never anywhere near water. There was also a guy who totally screwed up his own PC but was too embarrassed to tell me about it. After I drilled him a bit, he finally admitted that he had one of those viruses that told him it was harmless and that all he needed to do was remove certain files from his system folder to get rid of it. The idiot actually went through and deleted his systems files.
The exaggerating cases are just as bad. Look, when you call someone up for tech support or help, you need to be precise. That's how we help you! I've had people give me end-of-the-world scenarios with their computers only to turn out that they accidentally physically switched off their wifi switch.
I am not an asus apologist. I think asus has a lot of improvements to make. That said, if you think another tablet manufacturer can do a better job, please by all means switch. After having owned a multitude of tablet devices and years of testing out various boards from many manufacturers, I'm sticking with asus's tablets. I will try to get myself an infinity when it's available.
It's my experience that online reviews don't paint a real picture of things. People tend to stay quiet when everything is fine and only write a review when they found something wrong. This phenomenon gives the false impression that most of whatever it is are defective.
Then there are the ones who want to screw over a business just because they can. I sent out an item via ups some time ago. It was suppose to arrive on the 19th via tracking but ups had a delay and it was delivered on the 21st. The customer wrote me an email blasting me for ups's delay. Very nasty email, actually. He even hinted that if I gave him a partial refund he wouldn't give me a negative review. Annoyed, I replied thanking him for assuming I had complete control over how ups operates. Well, you guessed it, I got that negative review. In the review, he said he received the item very very very very late and that I was rude and packaged the item very poorly (even though I wrapped it in two layers of bubble wraps). There's that exaggeration with reviews again.
So, yeah, guys, go ahead and switch to a different company if that makes you feel better. Just my 2 cents.
already pre-ordered a nexus 7. I might see what win 8 tablets talking about. but after nexus 7, ill be satisfied until tegra4 tablets release.
p.s. I LOVE THE PRIME!
I have an ASUS TF700t and keyboard on pre-order, and will be selling my good working Prime with its keyboard on eBay as soon as the new one comes in. That's what I did with my original Transformer and my current Prime. I expect that at the end of the year there will be some real Windows 8 tablets, such as the Microsoft Surface RT. I expect to "upgrade" to one of those in a similar manner. Great fun!
Bye.
It will be a Samsung tablet that's for sure, not only do Samsung's Exynos SoCs consistently perform as on of the best SoCs on the market but Samsung's latest Android devices have been nothing but stellar.
The Prime was my first experience of Asus and it's definitely going to be last, in my opinion; Asus have absolutely shocking quality testing. Whilst people can post that they don't have any problems; for every one who doesn't have an issue, 100's do. The fact that Asus did not comprehend the impact of a full metal design on the WiFi and GPS performance speaks volumes about their pre-release testing.
I'm not an unreasonable person, I actually didn't care much for GPS on a tablet and hence why I've not been vocal about it, so I'm not complaining for the sake of it. However, since .21, I've always had pathetic browser performance, screen glitching where the status bar jumps up and down and sleep of deaths whilst docked. .28 comes along and fixes none of those issues but throws screen tearing on the left side of the screen into the mix, you can imagine how much that would annoy a consumer.
I'm happy to use applications off the market to make the experience better, for example I use thumb keyboard because Asus' stock keyboard is nothing but an embarrassment. I mean, why release a 10.1" tablet with a soft keyboard that doesn't have the option to split the keyboard in landscape orientation? You can't reach the keys in the middle of the screen, it's basic ergonomics and something I learnt in school when I was 16 and that's why it's embarrassing. Yet there's certain applications where I'm not willing to compromise as the loss of features are too great.
For example, the stock browser supports flash and direct syncing with my Google account. Nothing else does this as Chrome doesn't support flash. Another great example of how disorganised and unprofessional Asus are, is the whole GPS dongle shipping process. Not only are Asus incompetent to mess up GPS in the first place, they're stupid enough to mess up their attempt to resolve the issue.
For me it comes down to a simple question, am I happy with the £500 I spent on the Prime? The answer is no, as I could have bought a tablet that's £200 cheaper with a Tegra3 chip in that doesn't have the issues the Prime does. Would you put up with a TV unit that had screen tear down the side, with absolutely no acknowledgement from the manufacturer as to when it's going to get fixed?
Will certainly buy the nexus 7 as soon as it will be available around here. Don't know if i'll go for the infinity 700, since i lovethe prime except for its weak wifi speed on long range. I think i'll prefer to see what the windows8 tablets will be worth before going for a replacement for the prime of there ever will be one.
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No way with ASUS, they are not getting another dime. And for that matter unless it surpasses the iPad in terms of smoothness and UI performance, I ain't getting another Android tablet, they are just not mature enough (phones are a different story, I will stick with Android phones).
Keeping my Transformer Prime TF201, adding a Nexus 7. If you NEVER buy stuff from any maker you get a bad device with in the end you will have nothing to buy.
I mean for a tablet you have who Asus and Samsung as top players, anyone else?
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So, yeah, guys, go ahead and switch to a different company if that makes you feel better. Just my 2 cents.
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You can bet I will. I own several Moto products, an HTC and a Samsung. The 201 I wanted seeing how good the form factor was and hearing about quad-core power. After what I've been through with mine, the issues with the tablet and the company and trying to get a hold of someone competent enough to get a GPS dongle shipped to me, I'll never spend money on anything Asus again. I haven't had any of these issues with the other companies products, but this is just my personal experience with the devices I have purchased.
While I'm not saying there aren't people satisfied with their 201's you obviously are, for me I definitely didn't get what I spent $500+ on. I would probably have a more positive view of the company had I waited for the N7 and saved myself 400 or so plus the hardware and software problems over my 201 and dock but at least I learned the lesson I'll never spend that much again on an Asus tab.