I was thinking about using the app wifi tether and was wondering about ATT detecting it. I am on unlimited data and don't want to get the boot...if I used it once in a great while.
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I have been using the stock tethering by rooting and deleting some tethering apk (look for it somewhere in the forums). But I have not had any issues or messages about tethering. They will give you a warning if you are detected though and that'll give you time to stop tethering. In other words they're not gonna just take you off unlimited instantly.
If you're still on gingerbread root the phone and download titanium backup and delete tethering manager then boom. Don't have to pay for tethering services
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Ok, so back on topic here.
They can and they can't.
If you just browse the net and do normal things like that, no, they can't.
But, you start sucking up bandwidth playing MMO's and downloading torrents, then yeah, they will get you eventually.
The amount of Bandwidth you use will get you before they seek you out for tethering is what I am trying to say. Just be reasonable and responsible is all.
On my cappy I was running saurom and tethered alot of the day to my laptop. Never got anything from ATT. Now I have the Note and its stock. Installed FoxFi and within a few days of just normal browsing I got a text from ATT so I had to call them and stop tethering, don't want to lose my unlimited data plan.
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I have unlimited data and used to tether my laptop to my Infuse when my internet was down at my college house. My roommates also would tether to it and use their laptops and our internet connected bluray player to watch netflix. I never had any problems, until I installed a ROM that didn't have the tetheringmanager.apk removed, because the developer thought free tethering was wrong...ugh. I didn't bother to check for it being uninstalled, as most custom ROMs have it removed, and I got a text from AT&T about an hour later.
I was really pissed when I went and read that the dev didn't remove it, because it caused me to lose my tethering ability since I want to keep my unlimited data, but it was also my fault for not checking. Long story short, make sure the apk is reoved, and you should be good to go. They may still catch you if you use enormous amounts of data as others have said, but they will warn you before changing your unlimited plan to a tiered tethering one.
My suggestion, do it while you can, and just stop if you get warned! =]
Ok pretty much what I was expecting. I have a few questions but first I want to clarify that I'm on Saurom VII, does anyone know if this ROM had the APK removed and what's the name of it so I can remove with titanium if need be? Thanks in advance.
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Edit: I found two apps named wifi share 1.0 and wifi sharing manager 1.0...bingo?
No bingo, though I don't think it would hurt to remove those either, as those could also tip off att, not sure though. The one you need to make sure of is tetheringmanager.apk. Go into root explorer: system > app > and delete tetheringmanager.apk
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I couldst find anything name tethering manager, but I found like 3 other apps that the wifi icon but not sure what they do lol. Here a screen shot..., well apparently I can't upload a screen shot because the JPEG had an invalid file extension (using the XDA app)
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Disabling TetheringManager
This thread is very helpful. Thanks!
Posters have suggested that you delete the TetheringManager apk. Could you just freeze it (in Titanium Backup) instead?
backup then remove
You can freeze it if you have the Premium Titanium Backup. If you don't you can back it up then uninstall it. That way you can restore it if need.
Yes. Freezing works.
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I'm really curious as to how exactly AT&T figures out who tethers. In the past, I tethered all the time whenever I needed to use my laptop in the field. Never a problem, and I never abused it. Then I got my international SGSII (GT-I9100). I was trying to download a wi-fi driver to my home PC so I could connect with my Cox Cable internet home network. I probably had tethering on for maybe 5 minutes, and I know I had to have consumed <5megs of data. A couple hours later I got the email and text from AT&T telling me they were moving me off the unlimited plan to the limited plan.
How'd they know? The phone isn't available on AT&T, and didn't have any of AT&T's tething apk's like tetheringmanager.apk. I've tried Googling to see if anybody knows exactly how they know, but nobody seems to know.
ClockworkMod Tether is supposed to be invisible to the phone company. I'm just afraid to test it now! Tether link: http://goo.gl/7Ay6w
diomed said:
How'd they know? The phone isn't available on AT&T, and didn't have any of AT&T's tething apk's like tetheringmanager.apk. I've tried Googling to see if anybody knows exactly how they know, but nobody seems to know.
ClockworkMod Tether is supposed to be invisible to the phone company. I'm just afraid to test it now! Tether link: http://goo.gl/7Ay6w
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There's been a lot of discussion about how AT&T detects tethering. From everything I've read, I believe that they look at the TTL parameter in the packets to see if there's an extra hop. When you tether, packets originate on the tethered device and the TTL gets changed. Apparently, some of the USB tether apps like ClockworkMod Tether don't change the TTL, so they avoid detection.
I haven't tested this myself, so I don't know for sure that ClockworkMod Tether is safe to use. Maybe other people have used it and can report here.
kevinallen4325 said:
If you're still on gingerbread root the phone and download titanium backup and delete tethering manager then boom. Don't have to pay for tethering services
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Isn't the Tethering Manager app needed for 3rd party Tethering to work? When I start FoxFi, Tethering Manager also got started immediately. I am on stock rooted.
I got the text from AT&T saying that I had to stop tethering so I called and tried to lie about but they said they were tipped off because I accessed the apple store multiple time and since I was on WM at the time it would be impossible for me to do that on my device. They were correct I was tethering to an ipod touch and they somehow knew. The women told me sometimes they get tips from their security system that tells them different things about the likelyhood of what customers are tethering and when their system gathers enough information to prove someone is tethering it automatically sends a text to that customer. I felt stupid for tryin to lie after she told me their records show I never switched my sim to an iphone and was still able to access the apple store several times. I never got caught tethering until I tethered the ipod.
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I got the text from AT&T saying that I had to stop tethering so I called and tried to lie about but they said they were tipped off because I accessed the apple store multiple time and since I was on WM at the time it would be impossible for me to do that on my device. They were correct I was tethering to an ipod touch and they somehow knew. The women told me sometimes they get tips from their security system that tells them different things about the likelyhood of what customers are tethering and when their system gathers enough information to prove someone is tethering it automatically sends a text to that customer. I felt stupid for tryin to lie after she told me their records show I never switched my sim to an iphone and was still able to access the apple store several times. I never got caught tethering until I tethered the ipod.
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Same thing here, never got busted until I tethered my iPad from my iPhone. So far so good with the note...
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I see a lot of debate over how to tether. Can anyone please tell me the tried and true method to tether on LTE without being detected/billed by AT&T?
Thanks in advance.
I am not a pro whatsoever here, but it is my understanding that once you are rooted, if you freeze or uninstall tethermanager using Titanium Backup you should not have to do anything else, and it should work.
You can insinstall or freeze tethering manager, but no matter what you do they can still detect you if they look for it. I have never ran the stock rom on my infuse, and always had tethering manager uninstalled, and they still sent me the text message warning to stop or upgrade to a tethering compatible data plan.
I think they figured out that people were deleting tethering manager, so they now check by different means, from my understanding they check the packets of data being sent and received or something to that effect. A phone will send and receive different packets than a tethered laptop.
It will work for a while, but they may eventually warn you that you've been caught. I would say go ahead and do it until they warn you. That's what I did. And I suggest not using it for huge amounts of data, like a replacement for your home internet. I think I was caught because I used my phone to tether a few laptops and a ps3 to watch Netflix for a couple of days when my internet went down at home and my roomies still wanted to use internet.
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welchertc said:
I think they figured out that people were deleting tethering manager, so they now check by different means, from my understanding they check the packets of data being sent and received or something to that effect. A phone will send and receive different packets than a tethered laptop.
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So if you only tether your android tablet you are good and they can't tell, correct????
Change your APN don't use their Proxy and you will be fine, I have a phone at home tethering 24/7 to my computer to browse / chat / download roms kernels and it stays tethered not doing nothing 90% of the time I never get messages saying I'm tethering
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maxjivi05 said:
Change your APN don't use their Proxy and you will be fine, I have a phone at home tethering 24/7 to my computer to browse / chat / download roms kernels and it stays tethered not doing nothing 90% of the time I never get messages saying I'm tethering
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How do you change the proxy?
Menu - Wireless Networks - Mobile Networks - APN then make a new APN under name put anything under APN put Phone under type put internet hit menu then save and your done
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The bottom line is that AT&T can detect it. They just didn't bother enforcing it until the last 6 months. And they have ramped up the enforcement more and more to force people into the tethering plan involuntarily. I speak from first-hand experience!
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tbran said:
The bottom line is that AT&T can detect it. They just didn't bother enforcing it until the last 6 months. And they have ramped up the enforcement more and more to force people into the tethering plan involuntarily. I speak from first-hand experience!
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This. Changing apns and such only makes it harder for ATT to detect. If they think you are, they can still check, and will find out.
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For AT&T to know you are throttling they have to go through Billions of packets every second now with that they do sniff packets through their proxy and changing the APN helps avoid those problems and turning off tethering manager.
You can always encrypt your packets if you are that worried about it but from personal experience you should be fine.
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Does changing my APN affect anything else? Should i only switch to the APN when I plan on tethering or should i use it all the time?
I'm just asking because the default APN has a bunch of info. What does all of that stuff do?
I got my ATT Note today. Rooted it, installed Titanium Backup (aready owned it), froze tether manager and Hot Spot works perfect.
SeanH said:
I got my ATT Note today. Rooted it, installed Titanium Backup (aready owned it), froze tether manager and Hot Spot works perfect.
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Can you give us a little bit more information what files did you used to rooted it to include procedure to froze the tether manager.
Go to Dev forum and get the root kernel. Follow directions in that thread. Get titanium backup and superuser and uninstall tethering manager.
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Does changing my APN affect anything else? Should i only switch to the APN when I plan on tethering or should i use it all the time?
I'm just asking because the default APN has a bunch of info. What does all of that stuff do?
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The Phone APN mentioned before is for HSPA+. To use LTE, you need ptr APN that is pre-configured on your phone.
So, by switch to Phone APN, you are disabling LTE and switched back to HSPA+. AT&T is still able to catch you (just ask those SGS2 owners who got letters/SMS).
Tethering is so 2010. With a GNote, why tether?
Btw, I pay for tethering but rarely use...only use for critical VPN required access. Actually work pays for the tethering.
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To freeze or uninstall can I use titanium backup or do I have to use tr PRO version?
Willthrill said:
To freeze or uninstall can I use titanium backup or do I have to use tr PRO version?
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You don't have to, but you'll likely buy pro at some point. It is more than worth it to backup and restore applications in batch. Plus you help out the developer of an amazing program!
So regular titanium will freeze or remove apps?
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So regular titanium will freeze or remove apps?
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The free version can be used to "uninstall" and backup apps; however, you will need the PRO (paid) version to "freeze" apps.
TiBu PRO is one of the most justifiable app purchases you will ever make.
I have searched extensively on Google, and XDA but can't find the right answer.
I want to tether my phone. I can do this directly in Android but my current carrier brings up a message in the browser saying it's not supported on my current plan.
I'm addressing this, but in the mean time I'm curious if there is a way round it, hypothetically.
I have seen some Apps, such as ClockWork Mod Tether, but since my phone is rooted I wondered if there is a more elegant solution that doesn't involve any software to be added to my PC.
I read about using TB to freeze a specific App/Process but couldn't find any details.
Any advice would be great,
thanks
helppme said:
I have searched extensively on Google, and XDA but can't find the right answer.
I want to tether my phone. I can do this directly in Android but my current carrier brings up a message in the browser saying it's not supported on my current plan.
I'm addressing this, but in the mean time I'm curious if there is a way round it, hypothetically.
I have seen some Apps, such as ClockWork Mod Tether, but since my phone is rooted I wondered if there is a more elegant solution that doesn't involve any software to be added to my PC.
I read about using TB to freeze a specific App/Process but couldn't find any details.
Any advice would be great,
thanks
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HOW have you not heard of android wifi tether? One of the first reasons I had for rooting the first Android phone I got.
There's also Barnacle Tether, available on the play store.
Guess Barnacle is gone... but there are other tethering apps on the play store though.
And I'm wrong again. Barnacle is still there, but doesn't show up when I search from my phone. How curious.
Since your phone is rooted you can download wireless tether.
Google it and you will easily find the download link or even directly via the play store.
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HOW have you not heard of android wifi tether? One of the first reasons I had for rooting the first Android phone I got.
There's also Barnacle Tether, available on the play store.
Guess Barnacle is gone... but there are other tethering apps on the play store though.
And I'm wrong again. Barnacle is still there, but doesn't show up when I search from my phone. How curious.
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I appreciate the reply, but if you read my post again the issue I'm having is not an app to enable wifi tether directly on the handset, it's that the packet data is being detected as not from the phone so I get a message, on the computer, in the internet browser saying my priceplan doesn't include tethering. I cant get around this 3 website redirect. So, I need a way to tether, without the network knowing... The apps you mention work when the block is at the phone level I believe.... This is something different Three is doing..
Please correct me if I'm wrong though...
Oh, and as for the apps not showing up, the mobile phone providers asked google to block these apps for certain customers.. if you connect to a wifi network when in flight mode, and go the google market, you should still be able to see them...
panoramixmeister said:
Since your phone is rooted you can download wireless tether.
Google it and you will easily find the download link or even directly via the play store.
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same issue, this app doesnt get around they way three is detecting tether usage :-(
helppme said:
I appreciate the reply, but if you read my post again the issue I'm having is not an app to enable wifi tether directly on the handset, it's that the packet data is being detected as not from the phone so I get a message, on the computer, in the internet browser saying my priceplan doesn't include tethering. I cant get around this 3 website redirect. So, I need a way to tether, without the network knowing... The apps you mention work when the block is at the phone level I believe.... This is something different Three is doing..
Please correct me if I'm wrong though...
Oh, and as for the apps not showing up, the mobile phone providers asked google to block these apps for certain customers.. if you connect to a wifi network when in flight mode, and go the google market, you should still be able to see them...
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I WAS on wifi.
And did you ACTUALLY download the tether app and try, or were you using the tether built into the settings of Android? Because it sure doesn't sound like you downloaded the app...
And I don't have tethering on my carrier plan, but the tether app works just fine for me.
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I WAS on wifi.
And did you ACTUALLY download the tether app and try, or were you using the tether built into the settings of Android? Because it sure doesn't sound like you downloaded the app...
And I don't have tethering on my carrier plan, but the tether app works just fine for me.
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Initially when I first posted I was trying the built in app but I downloaded the app you suggested anyway, but it didn't work. would connect to the computer but no data connection. Unsure if its an app problem or still a three problem, but I don't see how this app would fix the three problem. Does it somehow mask the PC data connection??? I couldn't see anything in the settings or set up that suggest that it would, it just looks like a more feature rich wifi hotspot app?? In addition I found mention that that others with my issue have also tried these apps like barnacle and it didn;t resolve the problem....
helppme said:
I have searched extensively on Google, and XDA but can't find the right answer.
I want to tether my phone. I can do this directly in Android but my current carrier brings up a message in the browser saying it's not supported on my current plan.
I'm addressing this, but in the mean time I'm curious if there is a way round it, hypothetically.
I have seen some Apps, such as ClockWork Mod Tether, but since my phone is rooted I wondered if there is a more elegant solution that doesn't involve any software to be added to my PC.
I read about using TB to freeze a specific App/Process but couldn't find any details.
Any advice would be great,
thanks
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They can suspend your service if they discover you are doing tethering on your device if you are not alowed in your current plan.
I Hope you wont have any issues.
Otherwise it is possible that the sim card lock the feature even on rooted phone when detect thetering or it is impossible ?
jsmasterx said:
They can suspend your service if they discover you are doing tethering on your device if you are not alowed in your current plan.
I Hope you wont have any issues.
Otherwise it is possible that the sim card lock the feature even on rooted phone when detect thetering or it is impossible ?
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yes I suppose they could do, but like I say I'm resolving this with my contract. It's more that I'm curious how they are doing it, and on principle don't like being told what I can and can't do
It can't be a sim lock.
I just tried tethering a Macbook, and amazingly that worked!.. SO, It must be something to do with the Packet Headers I'm guessing.. Or they are doing some other more detailed packet sniffing... It means there is definitely a software route around it... Need a clever developer to read this thread
I guess clockworkMod Tether might work, but I want a solution without a PC install..
helppme said:
yes I suppose they could do, but like I say I'm resolving this with my contract. It's more that I'm curious how they are doing it, and on principle don't like being told what I can and can't do
It can't be a sim lock.
I just tried tethering a Macbook, and amazingly that worked!.. SO, It must be something to do with the Packet Headers I'm guessing.. Or they are doing some other more detailed packet sniffing... It means there is definitely a software route around it... Need a clever developer to read this thread
I guess clockworkMod Tether might work, but I want a solution without a PC install..
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That doesn't make any sense. If it works with a mac book, it should work with your windows machine too. Unless your windows machine has some kind of proxy?
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That doesn't make any sense. If it works with a mac book, it should work with your windows machine too. Unless your windows machine has some kind of proxy?
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no proxy.. I'm as confused as you. The headers are different on a mac though, Unix based system... Need to know how 3 detect at a network level its not phone data... this difference with a mac must be a clue...
pda net 3.50. Had to install pc software.. Is a USB tether solution.. but it works, so will do, until I get my price plan sorted.... Still would like a more elegant wifi solution though.. Come on you clever devs, .... SCRATCH that :-(((( It worked for 5 mins, now it comes up with same message in the internet Browser.. damn it!!! three are too smart :-(
helppme said:
pda net 3.50. Had to install pc software.. Is a USB tether solution.. but it works, so will do, until I get my price plan sorted.... Still would like a more elegant wifi solution though.. Come on you clever devs, .... SCRATCH that :-(((( It worked for 5 mins, now it comes up with same message in the internet Browser.. damn it!!! three are too smart :-(
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Try proxoid.
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Try proxoid.
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They are blocking the port 80.. they sent you to their walled garden page. I think its on your provider proxy side now
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They are blocking the port 80.. they sent you to their walled garden page. I think its on your provider proxy side now
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Is there a way around this. What do you mean by, on the provider proxy side?
Shortly after PDA net stopped working, I was also getting the three message on the browser directly on my phone.. after about an hour, my phone web browser started working normall again :-(
helppme said:
Is there a way around this. What do you mean by, on the provider proxy side?
Shortly after PDA net stopped working, I was also getting the three message on the browser directly on my phone.. after about an hour, my phone web browser started working normall again :-(
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When you use thetering, you embark to the provider internet network.
for example my provider is Bell Canada and their proxy is web.wireless.bell.ca
this one is for the device internet
for the thetering one they use another configuration settings when i connect my device to the computer.
What happen is when you plug your device to the computer, a signal is sent to the provider stating you entered in thetering mode. You don't have access to thetering so your internet connection is limited to the walled garden of the provider stating you are not subscrided to the service. Thats why i think they blocked the port 80 on your device and redirect you to that page.
Now for the Macintosh story.. It is not impossible that you can connect without problem with a mac and safari. I know a lot of people emulating a handled device with the Mac and the safari browser and those peeps didnt had a thetering plan.
The differences came with the drivers installed. Mac OS one are quite different in term of functionality than windows, thats why maybe the provider is able to sniff more easily people using windows but i am not a senior programmer. I am currently taking courses to become one but for now it is only suppositions. If i am wrong feel free to correct me but I am quite sure about what i am saying and that's why you dont have issues with a mac
jsmasterx said:
When you use thetering, you embark to the provider internet network.
for example my provider is Bell Canada and their proxy is web.wireless.bell.ca
this one is for the device internet
for the thetering one they use another configuration settings when i connect my device to the computer.
What happen is when you plug your device to the computer, a signal is sent to the provider stating you entered in thetering mode. You don't have access to thetering so your internet connection is limited to the walled garden of the provider stating you are not subscrided to the service. Thats why i think they blocked the port 80 on your device and redirect you to that page.
Now for the Macintosh story.. It is not impossible that you can connect without problem with a mac and safari. I know a lot of people emulating a handled device with the Mac and the safari browser and those peeps didnt had a thetering plan.
The differences came with the drivers installed. Mac OS one are quite different in term of functionality than windows, thats why maybe the provider is able to sniff more easily people using windows but i am not a senior programmer. I am currently taking courses to become one but for now it is only suppositions. If i am wrong feel free to correct me but I am quite sure about what i am saying and that's why you dont have issues with a mac
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This sounds correct to me. I'm pretty annoyed though. Only had the contract a month, I was told I could move onto a more expensive plan within contract if I needed more allowance etc.. Phone up 3, not only do they not let you PAY MORE for a different plan, but they also don't let anyone shift onto the one plan ever, unless its a new contract.. So basically **** them... so even if I want to pay extra for tethering I can't... absolute nonsense...
I had the same issue with three. I downloaded masqued crusader from play store. Activated it and then started wireless/usb tether. It worked. That was a while back tho. On a payg sim card on a galaxy s on gb. Its worth a try though.
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Well i have recently tried using my samsung galaxy s3 hotspot and run into a problem.
i have t mobile i have 4g internet it is 2gb a month i have plenty left.
but when i goto use the hotspot my computer find its no problem but when i go and connect it gives me some bs about limited internet service and then relogs into my prevous network or just keeps me offline.
can anyone give me some tips on what the problem might be? thank you.
bump.
If your not rooted try,
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.foxfi
If your rooted try
http://code.google.com/p/android-wifi-tether/
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short answer. wifi tethering doesn't come on the 2gb plan. only 5gb or higher. so yeah. you'll have to find a way around that I guess.
tony yayo said:
short answer. wifi tethering doesn't come on the 2gb plan. only 5gb or higher. so yeah. you'll have to find a way around that I guess.
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Hes probably trying to find a way to tether without tmobile knowing.. Hes asking for "a way around that".
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1766155&page=5
Check out my reply to another post in the General forum. Use one of the Tethering Widgets to get you past the subscription alert messages. It has successfully worked for many people on different carriers. I used "Fattin's" Wifi Tether widget.
Is that a custom ROM with tethering enabled? The limited or no connectivity, yellow triangle, comes when you have successfully connected to the network, but don't have internet access... then in your case your computer decides to go back to a remembered network...
Make sure Wifi is off before you enable tethering, and sometimes you will have to connect and reconnect and few times, even give it a minute before the yellow triangle disappears... This is all contingent on your rom having tethering enabled, and you're trying to use the stock android tethering...
To keep it from autoconnecting to the different network, you'll have to remove that from the preferred networks list temporarily...
i have been a big fan of tethering since my old iPhone days.
the switch to android has been a big step and i am not telling anyone to tether so please don't abuse this.
i used foxfi with proxy for about 4 months until last night. got a email from AT&t stating that i would be moved to a tethering plan for 65 dollars more a month and one less gig than i had before. so for all those that use foxfi with proxy, it doesn't work. i know pda net dosent work from friend who also got a letter, before me.
so i am stuck .. no more tethering for me.. i am actually retiring from it. but i still keep the option on my phone if such an emergency arises.
hears where i am asking for the opinions of the xda members. i am not sure how at&t knows, but they did, and it doesn't make sense that they scan all every packet of data. any ideas how they know?
i did do one thing that i found hidden on my samsung notei717. under network settings it only shows ONE apn. but... if you download a apn-manager it shows a hidden APN-att-entitlement. is this how they know? i thought it was only used for people who pay for tethering? is it also used to track tethering?
i ended up using a sql editor and removed the line for this APN from the(/data/data/com.android.providers.telephony/databases/telephony.db) rebooted phone and now its gone, phone works well and i havent seen any problems yet. ( i did make a copy if anyone wants to see the original)
might anyone in here have any ideas of how at&t knew ?
i am more curious if anything.. even my wife told me, that i have a big enough screen, just use it as a computer from now on.
was it this APN that gave it away? (i tethered a android tablet for internet and games)
mac1845427 said:
i have been a big fan of tethering since my old iPhone days.
the switch to android has been a big step and i am not telling anyone to tether so please don't abuse this.
i used foxfi with proxy for about 4 months until last night. got a email from AT&t stating that i would be moved to a tethering plan for 65 dollars more a month and one less gig than i had before. so for all those that use foxfi with proxy, it doesn't work. i know pda net dosent work from friend who also got a letter, before me.
so i am stuck .. no more tethering for me.. i am actually retiring from it. but i still keep the option on my phone if such an emergency arises.
hears where i am asking for the opinions of the xda members. i am not sure how at&t knows, but they did, and it doesn't make sense that they scan all every packet of data. any ideas how they know?
i did do one thing that i found hidden on my samsung notei717. under network settings it only shows ONE apn. but... if you download a apn-manager it shows a hidden APN-att-entitlement. is this how they know? i thought it was only used for people who pay for tethering? is it also used to track tethering?
i ended up using a sql editor and removed the line for this APN from the(/data/data/com.android.providers.telephony/databases/telephony.db) rebooted phone and now its gone, phone works well and i havent seen any problems yet. ( i did make a copy if anyone wants to see the original)
might anyone in here have any ideas of how at&t knew ?
i am more curious if anything.. even my wife told me, that i have a big enough screen, just use it as a computer from now on.
was it this APN that gave it away? (i tethered a android tablet for internet and games)
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Are you talking about using the built-in tethering, or some third-party app? I've never used the 3rd party app or proxy service for tethering.
baudilus said:
Are you talking about using the built-in tethering, or some third-party app? I've never used the 3rd party app or proxy service for tethering.
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FoxFi is a free app in play store.
Duplicate thread ????
OP Please post questions in the correct section. Q&A for questions.
And please do not post duplicate threads on the same subject, allow user to respond to your initial thread, no need for multiple threads. Thank You. Thread Closed.
I am very good at searching before I post questions, but I keep getting an error saying search is currently not available.
On my S3 there were ways to tether via WiFi and USB without being detected on my grandfathered in unlimited data play. Can anyone confirm that there is proven method via the LGOG. Ny phone is rooted, unlocked, custom kernel, snow rom, and various other mods.
If someone can confirm a working way of doing this, I will provide them with file hosting and subdomain on my server, with full ftp access... etc. Thanks!
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Also, let me know if this is in the wrong section
I used the native tethering on SnowJB fairly heavily without issue and as far as I can tell it was never detected.
I was rooted and running various ROMs on my Samsung Infuse a few months ago, and I got an email saying they would add the tethering service to my plan if I continued to use it.
A couple years ago I had a jailbroken iPhone and tethered a lot of data and never had an issue.
I have not yet tried on the LGOG in fear of getting a $40/month service automatically added to my bill.
Sorry I don't have an answer, just sharing my experience I've encountered while tethering.
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Script said:
I am very good at searching before I post questions, but I keep getting an error saying search is currently not available.
On my S3 there were ways to tether via WiFi and USB without being detected on my grandfathered in unlimited data play. Can anyone confirm that there is proven method via the LGOG. Ny phone is rooted, unlocked, custom kernel, snow rom, and various other mods.
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avoiding detection would probably mean using a method that doesn't rewrite the TTL's on the outbound packets. I've used wifi-tether w/o issue as have many others, I'm sure. I suspect that wifi-tether doesn't preserve the TTL's, but people get away with it because the cost/benefit to carriers is to pick the top 1% of bandwidth users and examine their usage for good reason to stop them somehow, illegal tethering being a good convenient one.
I'm sorry I don't have a solution for you, as I've also searched for just such a thin and not found it. I am curious what others are doing for tethering on this device, though.
If used sparingly, you PROBABLY won't get caught. I used foxfi on my old phone on different occasions and never recieved any notifications about tethering.
jonasl (if you don't recognize the name, he is very good at what he does) had a post in the SnowJB thread a while back about fixing the tethering issues people were having. From what I understand of it, the tethering checks to see if AT&T customers have the entitlement to tether, but since this is a ported ROM, it isn't able to find out if you are entitled (the code doesn't exist to finish the check). His fix circumvents the check (which as he says "This will as a sideeffect also give you tethering even if you aren't paying for it").
I have implemented the fix in case I needed it, but have not had a need to tether since, so I can't vouch for it in that regard, I can say everything still works as expected.
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If you really want to avoid detection, you could run a socks proxy on your phone that forwards to another socks proxy on the internet. Then you need a way to use the socks proxy on your phone. On the client side it can be easy (web browsers have a socks proxy setting, and there are wrappers to socksify anything on your pc) or harder (if you're tethering a tablet or game console or something). Finally, you need a way to bring up both your wireless and mobile data connections at the same time - you could use wifi tether for this if you only need to tether wireless clients, or a more manual method if you need your phone to be a regular wifi client on your network.