Design flaw of Galaxy Note - AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717

Ok, so after two weeks of ownership, I have noticed a slight flaw with the Note. While using S-Memo, I am constantly touching the capacitive buttons, causing the phine to exit to the home screen. It's nearly nearly impossible to avoid this issue, because my hand naturally lays on the screen while writing or sketching. I fond this quite annoying. Unfortunately, I have no programming skills, otherwise, Id create a utility that would disable the capacitive buttons when using the s-pen, or any app designed for writing or drawing.
Other than that, the Galaxy Note is without a doubt, the top banana of cell phones. I absolutely love this phone, and haven't put it down since I got it.
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not to be mean, but i think you may have a unique style of writing there. I personally lay my elbow or forearm on the table and my hand is actually off the paper/phone. how do you even write with your hand on the note?

Well, I would think it would be an easy mod to disable the Galaxy Note capacitive buttons and enable the on screen ones in ICS. Then it would make navigation with the spen even easier. In fact, I might try this right now.

if you wrote with your wrist off the table/paper/pad, your arm's gonna get tired. Standard is the side of your hand/palm resting on the surface.
That said, when using the s-pen, I tend to cradle the phone in one hand while writing with the other (and not laying the phone on a surface).

jpeg42 said:
Well, I would think it would be an easy mod to disable the Galaxy Note capacitive buttons and enable the on screen ones in ICS. Then it would make navigation with the spen even easier. In fact, I might try this right now.
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It is, you're right, but most of the Samsung apps don't play nicely with the navigation buttons.

lactardjosh said:
It is, you're right, but most of the Samsung apps don't play nicely with the navigation buttons.
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Ah thanks for the head's up!

kaishi00 said:
not to be mean, but i think you may have a unique style of writing there. I personally lay my elbow or forearm on the table and my hand is actually off the paper/phone. how do you even write with your hand on the note?
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That wasn't mean at all. Not sure if my writing style is unique. I've always reated the side of my hand on any surface I'm writing or drawing on. I've tried "levetating" my hand above the Note, but I find it incredibly difficult to write in that position.
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Am I the only one suffering from this issue?
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PeartFan40 said:
Am I the only one suffering from this issue?
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No problems here. Have you considered using it in a different orientation? Landscape or reverse landscape?
My hand is usually to the side of the screen, not near the buttons.
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yollasho said:
No problems here. Have you considered using it in a different orientation? Landscape or reverse landscape?
My hand is usually to the side of the screen, not near the buttons.
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I have. I've tried every position possible, without performing contortion. My hand naturally finds its way to a natural writing position. Grrr
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Use the app quick note. I think it has a settings to disable touch other than spen
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In all honesty, I've *never* hit a capacitive button while writing with the S-Pen on the note. Standing or sitting. You must write like a gorilla.

PeartFan40 said:
Am I the only one suffering from this issue?
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I also have the same problem but I don't use the pen too much.
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Err0xx said:
In all honesty, I've *never* hit a capacitive button while writing with the S-Pen on the note. Standing or sitting. You must write like a gorilla.
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I wasn't aware that gorillas could write or draw. I have big hands.
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Err0xx said:
In all honesty, I've *never* hit a capacitive button while writing with the S-Pen on the note. Standing or sitting. You must write like a gorilla.
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You must have elf hands.

In the stock video player you can lock the capacitive buttons by pressing volume up + power. maybe there's a similar solution in other apps?

Reclaim said:
You must have elf hands.
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LOL
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Reclaim said:
In the stock video player you can lock the capacitive buttons by pressing volume up + power. maybe there's a similar solution in other apps?
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Hmm, I'll give that a try. Thanks for sharing.
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Reclaim said:
In the stock video player you can lock the capacitive buttons by pressing volume up + power. maybe there's a similar solution in other apps?
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Gave it a shot, but no luck.
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Just curious if someone named Peartfan might be a drummer and maybe that has something to do with writing style

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Draw something (app)

I'm killing all my Iphone buddies at this game! Can't beat the note!
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It needs notifications of when it's your turn; but yes, I'm able to do so much more with the S pen.
Yup, I agree with both of you.
iPhone users are puzzled on how I can draw it like that.
On the other hand, this really needs notification so bad.
I am loving this game, and the Note makes it that much more phone. I've been looking for the right app to force me to really take advantage of the s-pen, and this is it.
I've attached a couple of my drawings (button tap and hold screenshots FTW)... I'm not even a mediocre artist, but these were fun.
Damn! Your an artist!
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Thats some pretty good drawings there.
-Once you go NOTE, you'd say 4 inches a Joke
Lol. BOF news
I can't post my screenshots. Its giving me an error.
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For the first time today I had an issue with the game. The S pen wouldn't register on about 1/6 of the screen. I couldn't draw anything there except with my finger. Happened in two straight games. Exited and went to the s memo app and it worked fine. Anyone ever have this happen to them?
bhundt said:
I'm killing all my Iphone buddies at this game! Can't beat the note!
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Lol my wife refuses to play with me on her iPhone! She has to have the kindle fire to play with me because "your cheating." What a loser!
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blognc said:
I am loving this game, and the Note makes it that much more phone. I've been looking for the right app to force me to really take advantage of the s-pen, and this is it.
I've attached a couple of my drawings (button tap and hold screenshots FTW)... I'm not even a mediocre artist, but these were fun.
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The built in screen shot works in app for you? It doesn't for me.
redeuxx said:
The built in screen shot works in app for you? It doesn't for me.
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Pen screen shot didn't work for me but power home did
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S-Pen Near Screen

When I'm trying to draw or write on my note, when I go to use it, it draws when i get within two inches or so of the screen....
So my regular, non-cursive, writing looks like crap. Bad.
How can I turn that functionality off, or turn sensitivity down?
***Tap the S-Pen on something hard, and see if there is a difference. Took me three tries.
I'm pretty sure that is not a feature, and is a defect either in the software or unfortunately the hardware. You might need a new S Pen to fix the problem the right way.
There's a youtube video out there on how to "fix" this issue, but what it really does is reduce the sensitivity of the pen to the screen and you probably lose some serious pressure levels when applying this fix. Sorry no link, but I would advise trying your S Pen on the verizon floor model and see if it does the same thing to that one. Then you can feel fairly certain you need a replacement pen.
baker954 said:
When I'm trying to draw or write on my note, when I go to use it, it draws when i get within two inches or so of the screen....
So my regular, non-cursive, writing looks like crap. Bad.
How can I turn that functionality off, or turn sensitivity down?
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That happened to mine when I first got the phone and I read a lot of forums saying to just tap the spen on something hard so I tried it and it worked and hasn't happened again
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timmyd463229 said:
That happened to mine when I first got the phone and I read a lot of forums saying to just tap the spen on something hard so I tried it and it worked and hasn't happened again
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HAHAHA!!!!
Well that just WORKED.
Definitely an S-Pen and not phone hardware issue.
Thanks!!!! XDA is da bomb!
timmyd463229 said:
That happened to mine when I first got the phone and I read a lot of forums saying to just tap the spen on something hard so I tried it and it worked and hasn't happened again
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baker954 said:
HAHAHA!!!!
Well that just WORKED.
Definitely an S-Pen and not phone hardware issue.
Thanks!!!! XDA is da bomb!
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Excellent news, glad to hear this. Will remember for future reference. Thanks timmyd.
had the exact same problem...
S-Pen Fix
timmyd463229 said:
That happened to mine when I first got the phone and I read a lot of forums saying to just tap the spen on something hard so I tried it and it worked and hasn't happened again
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Worked for me as well!! Who says banging on electronics never fixes anything.
nlambson said:
Worked for me as well!! Who says banging on electronics never fixes anything.
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Just brought back memories of my og Nintendo
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Is the tip of your s pen flat or rounded
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Mine is rounded.
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xxxxmarkxxx said:
Is the tip of your s pen flat or rounded
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I was thinking the same thing... if the pen is dropped and the tip is pushed back in to the pressure sensor then it would be 'active' all the time and the hover feature would be interrupted by the phone like touching the screen. A flat tip would be a good indication of that being the case.
Gottoon
timmyd463229 said:
That happened to mine when I first got the phone and I read a lot of forums saying to just tap the spen on something hard so I tried it and it worked and hasn't happened again
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Woa! Confirmed! :good: Just tap it flat on a table and it's like new again. :laugh:
yeah that happened to me too briefly. the pen nib is stuck down so it thinks it's touching the screen when it gets in range of the screen
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I've read that this happens when you use your finger to touch the s-pen tip/point.
I had the same problem on my s-pen too. But yea, the tapping on a hard surface seems to work.
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baker954 said:
When I'm trying to draw or write on my note, when I go to use it, it draws when i get within two inches or so of the screen....
So my regular, non-cursive, writing looks like crap. Bad.
How can I turn that functionality off, or turn sensitivity down?
***Tap the S-Pen on something hard, and see if there is a difference. Took me three tries.
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check to see if the tip of the s pen is pressed in as it would be if you were touching the screen. It is a physical button that pushes in while writing.

Fine tune S-pen ( found on flipboard)

How to: Fine tune your S-Pen for the perfect Galaxy Note experience
http://phandroid.com/2012/12/05/how-to-adjust-s-pen/
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I've noticed on custom ROMs s-pen is useless far to sensitive maybe this will help. Going to test when i get home and report back. I prefer the tweaking method with screw driver.
Didn't notice any difference.
Really wish there was a way to calibrate the pen more than anything. I'm left handed and the cursor and accuracy of the tip is off making selections very hard. My tablet PC that uses a Wacom digitizer can be calibrated...don't understand why the Note can't have the same thing.
I use blackstar and novena and they both have a setting for lefties. Basically switches the point to the right side.
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AndroidVageta said:
Didn't notice any difference.
Really wish there was a way to calibrate the pen more than anything. I'm left handed and the cursor and accuracy of the tip is off making selections very hard. My tablet PC that uses a Wacom digitizer can be calibrated...don't understand why the Note can't have the same thing.
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Yes it us annoying. Also i did flash black star and pen still doses same problem so now i know its not the rom since blackstar is based on stock. Oh well will have my note 2 soon cant be bothered.
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Why do people love on screen buttons?

I know they can change with the apps which is cool and all but id much rather have the extra real estate that comes with capacitive ones. Plus, if an app freezes with onscreen buttons then you have no choice but to reboot the phone
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Honestly, 6 in one, half dozen in the other.
My tablet has the soft keys and I really don't notice the difference as far as performance.
I think on some of the other device's where you see them all the time it can take away from the look, but on this phone they disappear so nicely when not in use I actually prefer them to the soft keys
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Agreed why waste screen realistate
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I use both. Hardware and button savior.
whiteguypl said:
I use both. Hardware and button savior.
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This. At least if you have hardware buttons, you also have the option for the on screen buttons. Not true the other way around. Plus, the way ours disappear so nicely like they aren't even there.
I think this thread really puts the real estate issue in perspective:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2035842
Look at how much more visible screen we have yet the LGOG and Nexus are the same basic size. I will take capacitive buttons over hardware and on screen buttons.
I won't buy a phone without some form of hardware buttons. Just don't like the on screen deal. Yes it's neat but when I buy a 4.7 inch screen that's what I want
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cclark1894 said:
I won't buy a phone without some form of hardware buttons. Just don't like the on screen deal. Yes it's neat but when I buy a 4.7 inch screen that's what I want
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+1

Does your pen jump around?

Ok so basically I never noticed it doing it but on the top left corner if I try to use airview it just clicks a lot. Also anywhere on the screen if the spen is just about to stop being seen by the phone (is verging on being too far) it'll freak out and click all over this is an issue because I tend to hold it at this height.
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Alot of people say give it a couple gentle taps on the tip on a flat surface.
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aczm1988 said:
Alot of people say give it a couple gentle taps on the tip on a flat surface.
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It seems to help a tiny bit thanks
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Gahh Its Lee said:
It seems to help a tiny bit thanks
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No problemo
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If the problem persists, you can adjust the potentiometerby removing the button and turning the screw slightly clockwise.

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