I knew I might have problems when using Titanium Backup to restore my apps and data from my Captivate to my new SGS2. I did some research prior and could not find any information that said there would be a problem for sure, so I went ahead.
Now I am having a bunch of force closes... Messenging, e-mail, bunch of things not working at all. Suggestions?
Information: Rooted SGS2 running 2.3.4, build GB.UCKH7
I think the best thing to do now is a complete wipe... But I am not sure how to do that without messing up my phone since it is rooted. Also, even if I do wipe it, how do I restore my text messages, phone log, etc, without messing it up again? Is this even possible or should I give up?
FYI: I have never restored to a different phone before, only from Captivate to Captivate.
Thanks in advance.
It is not recommended to restore system apps going from one rom to another, so I can only assume coming from another phone is such a bad idea.
Restoring user apps is all you should do, but from another phone I don't know how that works exactly.
For messages, call logs, check the market for a few apps that will do that for you.
Did you try to restore your mms and phone log by restoring the apk? I do not think you can do that from one phone to a different phone.
You should backup and restore with something like "SMS Backup +" from Google Play.
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restoring from device to device is fine...however it would appear that you restored SYSTEM data
or
you restored all apps + data instead of MISSING apps+data....big difference.
Pirateghost said:
restoring from device to device is fine...however it would appear that you restored SYSTEM data
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you restored all apps + data instead of MISSING apps+data....big difference.
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I selected the option "Backup all user apps + system data," which I already figured out was the WRONG option. Grrr.
What is the best way to fix this situation I am in? Since my phone is rooted, I am hesitant to use the menu systems to reset since that might mess up my phone.
I suppose installing a custom rom will fix the issue for sure, right? I was not sure I wanted to get into that with this phone.
Install a custom rom and be done with it.
If you like stock give that latest leak a try and enjoy ICS.
I'm with lilchris on this one. Just do a clean install of a custom rom then only restore user apps. In my experience restoring system data is just way more trouble then its worth. Google stores your critical information (contacts etc.) and everything else is not worth the pain.
LiLChris06 said:
Install a custom rom and be done with it.
If you like stock give that latest leak a try and enjoy ICS.
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Would you recommend stock or your ICS Rom? I actually prefer custom roms, I was just not sure I wanted to spend all the time putting one on... I guess I have to now!!!! Might as well get a custom one. I miss the custom one I had on my Captivate already!!!
As far as ICS roms go, how does yours rank? It looks pretty awesome.
Thanks.
Phone Bricker ICS Rom
Just installed Chris's Phone Bricker ICS Rom and it truly is AMAZING!!!! ICS has got to be the best Android Rom I have seen yet. I am loving it so much.
Thanks Christ, you are awesome. As soon as my phone finished downloading all my apps (which is did automatically!!! never had that happen with any prior Android Rom!), I will install the update you provided.
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Hi, I am currently using a YP-G70 INLT device, I tried out a bunch of ROM, like AOKP and CM9 and MIUI and stuffs, but when I need the fully working device with camera,bluetooth,etc I returned to Stock Gingerbread 2.3.6 firmware!
Problem is, after the first restore and a very very long boot, it always show up the device set up and no root, the apps are still there, but I have to set up Google Play again, set my name and my Google Accounts. And there are NO ROOT!, I can't use Titanium Backup, Root Explorer,...
I turned off my device and restore it again, it works completely, it's always like that, needs twice restore for rooted,working device!
It wastes a lot of time, so any idea to fix this some how!?
I had this problem with my US, too. I think it's caused by trying to wipe it and then restore. I found that if the only thing you do in CWM is restore, it works the first time.
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Hi, did you get this sorted as I am ICS, with no bluettoth or camera, as I want to go back to stock
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Hi, I am currently using a YP-G70 INLT device, I tried out a bunch of ROM, like AOKP and CM9 and MIUI and stuffs, but when I need the fully working device with camera,bluetooth,etc I returned to Stock Gingerbread 2.3.6 firmware!
Problem is, after the first restore and a very very long boot, it always show up the device set up and no root, the apps are still there, but I have to set up Google Play again, set my name and my Google Accounts. And there are NO ROOT!, I can't use Titanium Backup, Root Explorer,...
I turned off my device and restore it again, it works completely, it's always like that, needs twice restore for rooted,working device!
It wastes a lot of time, so any idea to fix this some how!?
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This is not exactly a problem but it is how the Android system is designed. The first restore only restores most of the important system files and a few other bits. The rest of the data is restored on the second restore. The only way to fix this is to completely redesign the android system and make your own mobile OS so the best thing is just to remember to restore twice
Hello, I'm brand new to these forums, but I've been browsing them for the past week, and Im thinking about making the plunge to CM7. I've never done anything like this before, so could you guys answer a few of my questions, and maybe put my fears to rest?
First off, let me say that I read the Moto Atrix noob guide and updated thread.
This is my phone info:
System Version: 4.5.141.MB860.ATT.en.US
Android Version: 2.3.6
I have had this phone for over a year, and everything is completely stock.
Questions:
1. I have seen various threads about the latest firmware from Motorola causing an inability to change the OS. Is this true? And if not, do all the guides I've read regarding flashing, roms, backup, etc. still applicable?
2. I want to run CM7, but is it better to install CM7 directly from their website, or use some of the versions that I have seen members offering here. What are the main differences? What do you recommend?
3. Is CM7 as stable as stock?
4. Is it possible to flash different kernels to see what type of battery life difference they make, and can you do this without changing the OS?
5. I've seen multiple times of the importance of backing everything up. My only concerns are the contacts and sms. My contacts are stored on "Motorola Services." How can I back them up? As for sms, I use an app called SMS backup and restore. It creates an xml file I think, so when I go to restore my sms messages, everything should be as i was before, right? I'm worried about formatting issues here.
I just want to make sure I understand everything so I dont mess anything up. Thanks for your help!
yep. being a virgin and knowing it has to happen gives ya them butterflies in the tummy. Don't worry, you'll be fine, WE were all virgins at one time also. There will be somone here to assist you if you need it.
1.Follow the automatic bootloader thread. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1182871
2. Read a little on the roms you are considering. The ones based on cm7 are basically the same. differences will be in themes, and extra/different features like diff apps and launchers & more or less customization options such as for settings. Have to choose which one appeals to you, and go with it. Beauty of this is if you want to try something else, only takes a matter of minutes and you can change to a differnt cm7 rom. In a lot of instances, once you are on cm7, flashing a different cm7 rom, you don't have to erase or lose your data, just wipe system and caches and load new flavor. Only takes a couple of minutes to flash a new rom, or kernal, or radio, and your data stays intact. Changing to a CM9 or a different base rom is when you will need to wipe the whole phone including data.
3. Yes, cm7 was the last revision when devs were still able to use OEM drivers, so they are stable.
4. Answered in #2
5. I don't recall which apps were good for saving your sms stuff on cm7. Seems like ages ago since I was using that! Might want to consider moving your Motorola based stuff over to Google. Contacts will be availabe there and will load automatically when you initiate your new rom. You don't need to do any formatting, but erasing will wipe areas, and will erase personal data if that option is chosen, so your concern is noted. Pay attention to what you are doing, don't wipe data from CWM when flashing if you intend on keeping your user data. You can wipe system and caches and not lose your data.
Yes back everthing up. Make a copy of your PDS folder and stash it away on your pc (do this before starting flashing), this has your phone id stuffs and a couple other valuables. Don't share that with anyone either. Make a nandroid b/u (an option in your new CWM) as soon as you can after installing CWM. You can reload that if things don't go good, and be back where you started. Install SuperuserSU (not the plain Superuser) from google play.
Just do it, you'll like it! become one of the elite!
If you ask me... You'll need a custom recovery to be able to flash CM7 anyway, so why not use it to make a proper full nandroid backup too?
I mean sure, you can try messing around with specialized apps to save and restore only the parts most critical to you (like contacts and texts), but if for any reason you'll want to completely go back, at least you'll know you can.
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If you ask me... You'll need a custom recovery to be able to flash CM7 anyway, so why not use it to make a proper full nandroid backup too?
I mean sure, you can try messing around with specialized apps to save and restore only the parts most critical to you (like contacts and texts), but if for any reason you'll want to completely go back, at least you'll know you can.
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Will this full backup allow me to then only restore the data I wanted to keep? Because I know I wouldnt want to restore the whole thing.
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Will this full backup allow me to then only restore the data I wanted to keep? Because I know I wouldnt want to restore the whole thing.
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CWM will allow you to restore individual partitions. So you can, say, restore just /data and leave others intact. It won't let you restore specific folders in /data though. Basically such a backup is most useful if you need to restore the entire phone to a specific state.
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Will this full backup allow me to then only restore the data I wanted to keep? Because I know I wouldnt want to restore the whole thing.
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Use titanium backup to restore individual apps and their data...
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ravilov said:
CWM will allow you to restore individual partitions. So you can, say, restore just /data and leave others intact. It won't let you restore specific folders in /data though. Basically such a backup is most useful if you need to restore the entire phone to a specific state.
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what all is stored in the /data partition?
Also, is there some comparison of roms out there? I've been searching through the forum, and can't seem to find any. I see NottachAtrix4G alot. Is this based off of CM7? Also, does the fingerprint scanner work in cm7?
wvcaudill2 said:
what all is stored in the /data partition?
Also, is there some comparison of roms out there? I've been searching through the forum, and can't seem to find any. I see NottachAtrix4G alot. Is this based off of CM7? Also, does the fingerprint scanner work in cm7?
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The data partition is where your contacts, messages, settings and apps that you have installed go to.
I'm sure I saw some threads comparing ROMs, even though I recommend you try all the ROMs and see which one best fits your needs. Back when I had my old Milestone 2, everyone talked about the CM7 ROM, as it was the best to the device, but as soon as I tried the MIUI 2.3.7, never came back to CM7 (at least with M2, used it again with atrix)
Nottachtrix isn't based off CM7, it's a stock gingerbread ROM with modifications.
Yes, the fingerprint scanner works (at least on Neutrino CM7).
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The data partition is where your contacts, messages, settings and apps that you have installed go to.
I'm sure I saw some threads comparing ROMs, even though I recommend you try all the ROMs and see which one best fits your needs. Back when I had my old Milestone 2, everyone talked about the CM7 ROM, as it was the best to the device, but as soon as I tried the MIUI 2.3.7, never came back to CM7 (at least with M2, used it again with atrix)
Nottachtrix isn't based off CM7, it's a stock gingerbread ROM with modifications.
Yes, the fingerprint scanner works (at least on Neutrino CM7).
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Thanks for a good answer. I have yet another question though.
Some of the ROMS I have been looking at advertise that they are packaged with a certain kernel. Do all ROMS contain a kernel, or will I have to flash my own depending on which ROM I choose?
Again, sorry for all the questions, I just want to make sure I dont screw this up!
Every ROM is a complete system, so it must come with a kernel. In most cases after flashing a ROM you're ready to go. You'd only want to flash a different kernel if for some reason you're not happy with the one supplied with the ROM.
Hey all, apologies in advance if this Q is answered somewhere. After searching XDA and Google and trying to avoid posting something new, I resorted to posting.
Running Shostock 2, and I have two issues with TiBu. The first one has existed for all versions of Shockstock2 I've run, and the second one is brand new.
1) TiBu is unable to restore apps, only data. I've tried the different App Processing Modes (as is often suggested), to no avail. This is a smallish problem because it enables me to sort through the apps I really want, but I'd rather just do it in TiBu than going through market installs and then TiBu for data. Any ideas of what might be amiss?
2) New in Shostock 4.1.1 - Whenever any sort of backup occurs, many many apps and processes FC over and over (including Apex). Closing and reopening, clearing RAM, etc., don't help. The only solution I've found is restarting. Is this a bad install of Shostock, TiBu, or something I should just expect?
Thanks!
Never restore system apps
Never restore ALL apps
Only use the batch restore missing apps
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I am also running ShoStock2 and TiBu and do not have any problems. I can backup and batch restore non-system apps with no problem. As pirate already mentioned, never use TiBu for system apps.
What i usually do before installing any new ROM is to delete all my TiBu backups and do them again fresh. Have you noticed off the FCs occurs always at the same point in the restore process? It might mean a problem with a particular app.
Pirateghost said:
Never restore system apps
Never restore ALL apps
Only use the batch restore missing apps
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Yup yup. I only do user apps, never system apps.
wgoldfarb said:
I am also running ShoStock2 and TiBu and do not have any problems. I can backup and batch restore non-system apps with no problem. As pirate already mentioned, never use TiBu for system apps.
What i usually do before installing any new ROM is to delete all my TiBu backups and do them again fresh. Have you noticed off the FCs occurs always at the same point in the restore process? It might mean a problem with a particular app.
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Not restore, but the actual backup process. The TiBu backup runs (changing App Processing Mode allowed it to run without TiBu hanging), then if I interact with the phone any time after the batch backup has begun (including after the process ends), the FCs come fast and furious.
Pirateghost said:
Never restore system apps
Never restore ALL apps
Only use the batch restore missing apps
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May I ask why never restore system apps?
I currently switched from 2.3.6 coz to shostock and used system apps restore to pretty much replicate my everything to shostock.
Does it cause a bug somewhere or somethin?
Megiddo2000 said:
May I ask why never restore system apps?
I currently switched from 2.3.6 coz to shostock and used system apps restore to pretty much replicate my everything to shostock.
Does it cause a bug somewhere or somethin?
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Some system apps can be restored safely, and others can not. If you are changing base, such as you did when you installed Shostock2 from UCKK6, then many of the system apps will be different. If you installed all system apps with data, your phone would probably not even boot fully, and at the least would constantly have force closes and/or freezes and other problems on almost everything. It is usually safe to restore apps like email, Gmail, memo, Google+, etc. but when I do, I always do only one app at a time.
If you ever have fc's, freezes, or other problems, then you should reinstall and restore more carefully.
A little update, since it looks like nobody has any ideas...The FC problem occurs when any app uses super use privileges. And the problem seems to be getting worse - randomly happening even when there is no apparent reason it should. Is it possible that the install of Shostock simply didn't take and I should try again? Thanks.
The FCs happen because when you restore system apps with a backup that was made on a different ROM base many of them will no longer be compatible. You never, EVER restore system apps unless you are doing so to the same ROM that you originally made the backup on. Your phone may appear to be OK, but nagging FCs will continue to happen with no apparent reason. Your only solution at this point is a reflashing of the ROM from scratch as there is no way to fix what you've done.
Miami_Son said:
The FCs happen because when you restore system apps with a backup that was made on a different ROM base many of them will no longer be compatible. You never, EVER restore system apps unless you are doing so to the same ROM that you originally made the backup on.
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You're joking, right? Did you even read the thread or just start typing after skimming the first line? I mean, it's only 6 posts...
Your phone may appear to be OK, but nagging FCs will continue to happen with no apparent reason. Your only solution at this point is a reflashing of the ROM from scratch as there is no way to fix what you've done.
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TiBu's most recent update mentions fixing issues with batch jobs. I wonder if that was my issue.
Anyway, given the lack of knowledge on this front, I went ahead and wiped everything, flashed Shostock2 4.1.3, had the same FC issues, wiped, wiped, flashed, wiped, wiped, flashed, rebooted several times. It's now good, but still a puzzling issue. Still, there's no good explanation yet of where these FCs came from.
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You're joking, right? Did you even read the thread or just start typing after skimming the first line? I mean, it's only 6 posts...
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Well, genius, my response was to the guy asking why not to restore system apps with TiBu. Did you even read that? I guess I should have quoted him so that you would have no reason to make a snarky reply to someone trying to help others, but what do I know?
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Idk why I keep getting this message "Your system settings may cause problems. To correct this, go to your phone's settings, then in "Applications" then in "Development" and tick the "USB debugging" checkbox. I already tick it but it still have the message. BTW I am on Pfittech rom and siyahkernel. Anyone know why?
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Idk why I keep getting this message "Your system settings may cause problems. To correct this, go to your phone's settings, then in "Applications" then in "Development" and tick the "USB debugging" checkbox. I already tick it but it still have the message. BTW I am on Pfittech rom and siyahkernel. Anyone know why?
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An identical question was asked just a few days ago:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=30314962
EDIT: just as a friendly tip: you will usually get a lot more help in this forum if others can see you have made a genuine effort to search for answers to your problem before you post.
Hey guys. Recently rooted my DX2 that was on the latest 2.3.5 update and flashed Eclipse. I love it and its amazing but I want to try other ROMs that have much more custom options, etc. However, I was wondering what the best way to go about this is. I know how to make nandroid backups and have one with eclipse as well as one from right after i rooted.
what's the best way to switch between these without losing data etc?
Ok well the nandroid is good but all the other ROMs for the X2 are based on 2.3.4. You will need to sbf down and unfortunately there is no way around this. If you ever wanna come back to eclipse though just take the 2.3.5 ota, root and restore your backup. The same process can be done for the ROM's on 2.3.4. Install one, make a backup so if you ever want to come back to it you can just restore the nandroid. Use Titanium Backup to backup apps so you can just restore them on the other ROMs. Don't back up system data though because it will screw up other ROMs.
if i have a backup of stock rooted i can just boot into recovery and restore using the backup? also, is there an up to date guide on how to rename them.
as for the 2.3.4 ROM backups, i'd have to be on 2.3.4 in order to restore them?
Yea you can restore the stock rooted if you want. To rename them just use a file explorer or something similar and rename to whatever you want. Don't add spaces though or it will screw it up.
And yea you don't wan't to restore a backup of a different version of android. I don't know definitively that it will not work, but it's just a bad idea in general.
What gets erased when I apply an update? My backups are on my external sd card so they'll overwrite the internal correct?
Ive had my internal reserved for mostly just mp3s (and recently photography books and vids), and it still hasnt been erased through months of data wipes and sbfs.. App data can be backed up with titanium backup pro and batch restored. Google backs up contacts, wifi settings, wallpaper sometimes. If using a non stock launcher, your home screen setup and setting can be transfered btw roms. Its just system data and customizations that you need to do for the new rom and thats the fun part. I skipped some details of course but Android is a really efficient system.
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thanks for the reply. it looks like the /system and /data folder are the ones that get overwritten so everything else stays untouched from what i can tell.
i tried restoring an old backup i made and got stuck at checkin_mot.db file.. pulled the battery, factory reset, restored latest eclipse backup. not sure what went wrong or if i just wasn't patient enough lol.
I had trouble with a cm7 backup freezing at the same spot..had to delete it. The cm9 backup i tried afterwards restored fine and pretty fast.
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The biggest issue when coming from Eclipse, is the kernel. You cannot use a nandroid backup to switch between a 2.3.4 and a 2.3.5 rom. The nandroid cannot backup the kernel due to our ****ty locked bootloader.
So the only way you can go to another rom is to SBF back to 2.3.4 then root, and flash a new one. And even then a nandroid of Eclipse is worthless without it's kernel.
So no, there is no easier way. Other than to avoid eclipse like the plague, and stick with 2.3.4 roms.
Please let me know if I'm a complete retard here, but this has been my experience for the last year and a half.
Well before JB CM10 came out I'd say Eclipse was the most stable and best DD... Lol "avoiding it like the plague" is a bit overboard. But otherwise you are correct. To go to any other ROM it's time to SBF.
I definitely love the skin and feel of eclipse but I would like some more flexibility in terms of options, without overloading the overall device and making it sluggish again like stock.
Are any of the CM versions entirely stable and does everything work? Or they all have force close/non working parts?
Cm7 is pretty stable. The ones with the most bugs would be the CM9 based roms. CM10 JB is incredibly stable for the most part. You would never know it is an alpha. It runs very smoothly. There are problems installing some apps from gplay until alpha 2 is released but if you have titanium backups of your apps you can restore most if not all of them. It's only a work around but its good for now. I'm using CM10 as my daily driver (came from Eclipse.)
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Cm7 is pretty stable. The ones with the most bugs would be the CM9 based roms. CM10 JB is incredibly stable for the most part. You would never know it is an alpha. It runs very smoothly. There are problems installing some apps from gplay until alpha 2 is released but if you have titanium backups of your apps you can restore most if not all of them. It's only a work around but its good for now. I'm using CM10 as my daily driver (came from Eclipse.)
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that sounds promising. is it specific to the x2 in regards to the soft buttons? (as we already have hard buttons and the baked in ones dont really make sense)
ok so basically i want to find a way to get to 4.3 either rooted or unrooted, my problem is that i have pretty bad ocd and one of my major major problems with that disorder is my tech devices, i will most likely have an anxsiety attack or 2 if i have to set up my phone from scratch and i will spend hours making it look exactly the same. anyway, i want to know:
1:how to update rooted gs3 Gt-i9305t 4g/lte model without loosing data (if possible )
2: update to 4.3 and un root without loosing data (im sure thats impossible )
i would really appreciate the help as i cannot find anyone looking for the same help as me (kinda strange how no one cares about there data at all, but meh)
also on a side note, i have the problem with my s3 where any sd card i put into the machine will eventually kill itself and never work again as far as i know, it has killed 3 32gb sd cards now and its starting to piss me off to the point where i am no longer using an sd card at all. why does the phone do this and is there any way to fix it? either software wise or hard wear wise? thanks !!! :fingers-crossed:
4.3 source code has only just been released. 4.3 roms are not fully functional and have bugs. There are no official releases so they are all "rooted".
You really do need to wipe when making version updates. Theres no way around this.
Stick with what you've got.
that just sucks.
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4.3 source code has only just been released. 4.3 roms are not fully functional and have bugs. There are no official releases so they are all "rooted".
You really do need to wipe when making version updates. Theres no way around this.
Stick with what you've got.
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that honestly sucks so much, thanks for the info though.
hey another quick question, is there a way to so a full backup, like im talking FULL, like down to the point of where ur apps are placed and all there data, like apple devices have through itunes?? (restore from backup option) cus if so then i dont mind wiping at all, i just hate apple so i will never go back to one of there piece of **** devices again (i like features with my shiny brick) but yeah anything like that? or can kies do that?
i'm using temasek 4.3 preview 3 atm, you should check it out since developer is extremely helpful
and he updates regularly (which is important)
There are a number of ways to keep your data. Including ones that will let you change the ROM and still have your data. Titanium Backup - not sure if it is only Pro version but the one I have lets me create a backup on the extSDcard so I can flash it in a new ROM and restore all my apps and data straight off. SMS Backup and restore and Call Backup and restore both save out your data to the extSDcard so you can bring them back. I used to use My Backup Root as well but it ceased to work on the last update so I nuked it.
Add in a nandroid backup on something like Philz Recovery (where you can do an Advanced Restore from External SDCard and bring back just parts of your current ROM) and you can always get back to your look & feel in any new ROM.
The one thing I ahve NOT found a solution for is replacing my widgets back on the screens they are on - I run 7 screens and it pisses me off a full recovery in something like Titanium doesn't restore my widgets. The only way it happens is a full nandroid restore but that nukes the new ROM I have just installed so that's not an option.
I run Purelook HD as my 1st ROM, GoogyMax kernel and SlimBean as my 2nd ROM. I can nuke either or both and be back to my set up (including widgets) in about 45 minutes.
Journyman16 said:
There are a number of ways to keep your data. Including ones that will let you change the ROM and still have your data. Titanium Backup - not sure if it is only Pro version but the one I have lets me create a backup on the extSDcard so I can flash it in a new ROM and restore all my apps and data straight off. SMS Backup and restore and Call Backup and restore both save out your data to the extSDcard so you can bring them back. I used to use My Backup Root as well but it ceased to work on the last update so I nuked it.
Add in a nandroid backup on something like Philz Recovery (where you can do an Advanced Restore from External SDCard and bring back just parts of your current ROM and you can always get back to your look & feel in any new ROM.
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Lets dissect this a little.
A Nandroid backup will take a snapshot of your phone. If you flash something wrong, it can be used to restore your data / settings and rom exactly how it was. This will not help restore your data and settings on a new ROM where you had to perform a wipe. (You have to perform a wipe to prevent data and settings incompatibilities with the new ROM that will cause problems.)
Titanium backup is great. However, if you had to perform a wipe, you cannot simply restore everything using Titanium. This is because you will be restoring the incompatabilities (System data) and restoring the problems (negating the point of the wipe in the first place). You can restore user apps and data with titanium but there will be an element of manually setting all your rom settings.
OP - Please read the "Read before rooting" thread in my signature for more info.
**** that
screw it, ill just stay on 4.2.1 i mostly want it cus they (****ING FINALLY ) partially fixed the setting wallpaper problems so you can get at least most of the photo in the screen now, i have it on my nexus 7 but now cant get it on my phone : / screw ocd, it has plagued me since i was little
adex9 said:
screw it, ill just stay on 4.2.1 i mostly want it cus they (****ING FINALLY ) partially fixed the setting wallpaper problems so you can get at least most of the photo in the screen now, i have it on my nexus 7 but now cant get it on my phone : / screw ocd, it has plagued me since i was little
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We all spend hours making it look exactly the same. It's annoying but essential.
rootSU said:
Lets dissect this a little.
A Nandroid backup will take a snapshot of your phone. If you flash something wrong, it can be used to restore your data / settings and rom exactly how it was. This will not help restore your data and settings on a new ROM where you had to perform a wipe. (You have to perform a wipe to prevent data and settings incompatibilities with the new ROM that will cause problems.)
Titanium backup is great. However, if you had to perform a wipe, you cannot simply restore everything using Titanium. This is because you will be restoring the incompatabilities (System data) and restoring the problems (negating the point of the wipe in the first place). You can restore user apps and data with titanium but there will be an element of manually setting all your rom settings.
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The Advanced Restore in Philz lets you restore Data. The choices are, Restore Boot, System (+or- reload) Data, Cache and sd ext. The Data restored my latest personal stuff from the BU I tried just before a new ROM experiment. So not all Restores are the same. You don't have to bring it ALL back from a nandroid.
Journyman16 said:
The Advanced Restore in Philz lets you restore Data. The choices are, Restore Boot, System (+or- reload) Data, Cache and sd ext. The Data restored my latest personal stuff from the BU I tried just before a new ROM experiment. So not all Restores are the same. You don't have to bring it ALL back from a nandroid.
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@Journyman16
You seem to be missing my point.
If you can restore just data via recovery (which you can) then you didn't need to wipe in the first place.
ROM goes in /system. We all know that. Our apps go in /data/app. We all know that. Our data for our apps goes in /data/data but what some may NOT know is that /data/data contains all your system data too. When you set a ring tone or wallpaper, its in /data/data.
If you go from 1 ROM to another, you may not have to wipe. Or you may HAVE to wipe. It depends if there is incompatible system data in /data/data or not.
When you do wipe, you wipe /data/* (includes /data/data). If you nandroid restore /data and your phone works perfectly, you didn't need to wipe. So my point remains.
If you HAD to wipe, you cannot simply restore data via recovery and have a fully working phone.
rootSU said:
@Journyman16
You seem to be missing my point.
If you can restore just data via recovery (which you can) then you didn't need to wipe in the first place.
ROM goes in /system. We all know that. Our apps go in /data/app. We all know that. Our data for our apps goes in /data/data but what some may NOT know is that /data/data contains all your system data too. When you set a ring tone or wallpaper, its in /data/data.
If you go from 1 ROM to another, you may not have to wipe. Or you may HAVE to wipe. It depends if there is incompatible system data in /data/data or not.
When you do wipe, you wipe /data/* (includes /data/data). If you nandroid restore /data and your phone works perfectly, you didn't need to wipe. So my point remains.
If you HAD to wipe, you cannot simply restore data via recovery and have a fully working phone.
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Thanks for the explanation - that helps me understand better what goes on. Would that explain perhaps why, after some Restores, I had to run Fix Permissions to stop the FC's?
Journyman16 said:
Thanks for the explanation - that helps me understand better what goes on. Would that explain perhaps why, after some Restores, I had to run Fix Permissions to stop the FC's?
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Yep, it could do.
Any updates (I am facing the same problem)?
BTW, OTA updates seem to be able to keep most if not all settings. How they manage to do this?
moshepupkin said:
Any updates (I am facing the same problem)?
BTW, OTA updates seem to be able to keep most if not all settings. How they manage to do this?
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Same here. I've been looking for the exact method to do this, but haven't had any luck so far.
I ended up using Kies to update to 4.3 - it does not check root status.
moshepupkin said:
I ended up using Kies to update to 4.3 - it does not check root status.
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Hmm, it says that my current firmware is the latest version, rather than 4.3. Is there anything special you're supposed to do?
AriaOfSorrow said:
Hmm, it says that my current firmware is the latest version, rather than 4.3. Is there anything special you're supposed to do?
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Who says there is a 4.3 for your phone ???
JJEgan said:
Who says there is a 4.3 for your phone ???
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Well, let's see... there's everyone I know that also has this phone. People online that say they have this phone. Web sites saying that this phone has officially received 4.3. The phone itself saying there is an update for the firmware. So, basically everyone/thing except the Kies program.
Who says their is an update for your phone repeat your phone not some other guys phone and as you failed to give any firmware details impossible to check .
Kies/ Samsung says not for your phone yet.
Contact your vendor .
See multiple identical posts .
Flash stock rom through Odin from sammobile .com
JJEgan said:
Who says their is an update for your phone repeat your phone not some other guys phone and as you failed to give any firmware details impossible to check .
Kies/ Samsung says not for your phone yet.
Contact your vendor .
See multiple identical posts .
Flash stock rom through Odin from sammobile .com
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I already told you who said there is an update for my phone. Unless my phone is disguised as some one of a kind phone, I'm supposed to be able to update to 4.3.