I have read though all topics for Prime and found that there is no way at the moment to root ICS .21 without unlocking bootloader. I have an idea below Is it possible or not guru?
Anyone who has installed and done backup root by using OTARootkeeper, pls locate its backup data (.zip or xml or whatsoever) then send to users who already upgraded to .21 to restore it. It maybe restores a root.
If you are able to locate and have backup file for OTARootkeeper pls send it to me I will give it a try and report.
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I think the same way I previously wrote on this subject.
akncan said:
Hi all,
Prime Transformer using Asus for a month. Detail the issues which the forum for a while and looked, I tried some of the root methods. Authorities, however, and 9.4.2.21 update lost. I am writing this message I can think of something to consult.
Pending the development of a new method, like helping a friend with OTA Root Keeper backups can tell us where can we solve this problem?
For example, you share with us to take backups of AppBackup Rootkeeper OTA with the application?
Best regards from Türkiye.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=24492773&postcount=4
No, it's not possible. If you think about this for a moment, if this were possible, it would be a most trivial way of distributing a root exploit - and would already be common knowledge.
Without root, only certain well controlled files can be executed. It's not possible to add files to this set on any device which is not rooted unless there is an alternative way of accessing the internal file system (bootloader, flash from PC or recovery mode).
OTA rootkeeper relies on being able to _use_ a backup copy of the files needed to gain root priviledges - this file must already be present on the device in the right place. You should change the title of your thread to clarify that it's not useful...
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I've got a stupid noob question here that may have been asked hundreds of times over, however I really don't know the answer. I've found info pertaining to other devices, but not the Thunderbolt.
I am looking to root my phone, I know the process, I've studied it quite well. I happen to be one of those who have updated to 2.11.605.9. I am not worried about the downgrade procedure, but I would prefer to be able to backup my application data(I don't care about the actual app, I can redownload those) beforehand. Can this be done through ADB or something similar?
I've never really considered rooting my phone before now, so I apologize for my lack of knowledge on the subject.
I'm haveing trouble with Ur q.....
R u asking how to backup Ur apps before root??
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BrothaJINC said:
I'm haveing trouble with Ur q.....
R u asking how to backup Ur apps before root??
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Well, not necessarily the application itself. I'm more concerned about the data the applications store on the phone(application settings and such).
I believe u can not do this unless u are already rooted.... Which in that case you can use titainum backup.... Or u might be able to plug your phone into the computer and just drag over the file.... But that's depending on the file......
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That's what it looked like after I did my searches, but I figured I should make sure.
Well, I really don't feel like downgrading at the moment, so is anybody working on some sort of solution right now? If not, could I use revolutionary after gaining temp root with the newer TacoRoot exploit that supposedly works on all HTC phones? I'd assume Revolutionary would still be able to set S-off and flash CWM, as the method of root doesn't seem to matter(as evidenced by the various methods revolutionary uses on different phones).
I'm on Hboot 1.04, if it matters.
mvh11 said:
That's what it looked like after I did my searches, but I figured I should make sure.
Well, I really don't feel like downgrading at the moment, so is anybody working on some sort of solution right now? If not, could I use revolutionary after gaining temp root with the newer TacoRoot exploit that supposedly works on all HTC phones? I'd assume Revolutionary would still be able to set S-off and flash CWM, as the method of root doesn't seem to matter(as evidenced by the various methods revolutionary uses on different phones).
I'm on Hboot 1.04, if it matters.
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You could use Tacoroot to run Titanium Backup and backup all of your apps and data and then just restore after getting S-off and permanent root. You will probably want to buy the Pro version of Titanium Backup anyway and the Pro key is not phone/rom specific (so no need to worry about "wasting" it).
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You could use Tacoroot to run Titanium Backup and backup all of your apps and data and then just restore after getting S-off and permanent root. You will probably want to buy the Pro version of Titanium Backup anyway and the Pro key is not phone/rom specific (so no need to worry about "wasting" it).
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Before I run taco root and do the backup, do I need to install busybox or superuser so I can use titanium, or does it just work out of the box on a solution like this?
Also, I see that TacoRoot is unstable, but there isn't really a true definition of unstable listed. Can you explain of any bugs I may experience and how I may combat them?
Tacoroot will only give temporary root access. The downgrade does not have to be permanent. You are doing it long enough to turn security off (S-off) and use Revolutionary. Then afterward you can install the latest stock ROM with root access. You get this off the internet. Not from Verizon. I mentioned this in my recent thread here. Use Titanium backup after you have Revolutionary on your phone before installing the latest ROM.
Geek note: Root is the highest user in Linux. The words rooting or rooted are technically incorrect. Saying it as slang is fine. It can sometimes confuse people who have never been outside a Windows environment.
Angry Birds
This is how I did Angry Birds prior to rooting. There is probably something similar for whatever you are after.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1086233
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Tacoroot will only give temporary root access. The downgrade does not have to be permanent. You are doing it long enough to turn security off (S-off) and use Revolutionary. Then afterward you can install the latest stock ROM with root access. You get this off the internet. Not from Verizon. I mentioned this in my recent thread here. Use Titanium backup after you have Revolutionary on your phone before installing the latest ROM.
Geek note: Root is the highest user in Linux. The words rooting or rooted are technically incorrect. Saying it as slang is fine. It can sometimes confuse people who have never been outside a Windows environment.
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I was looking to see if I could use tacoroot to get temporary root to perform a backup, I was fully willing to downgrade after that, and probably flash a custom rom of sorts.
Also, I'm primarily a windows user(I'm a gamer), however I do know quite a bit about the world of linux. I just realized that I would use the term as it is in the android community.
bikerbob1789 said:
This is how I did Angry Birds prior to rooting. There is probably something similar for whatever you are after.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1086233
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That may help as well, if for whatever reason I cannot get titanium to work. I appreciate the advice. If it is not needed, it's some knowledge that I have gained that I previously did not possess. Learning is the most important thing, and sadly I haven't had much experience with ADB.
If there is one thing I can say, the android modding community appears to be a noob friendly group, it's so much friendlier than the Linux community was when I first started experimenting with it.
Im getting the problem that a lot of people have gotten, that the android market is no longer working (try to start it; You must add an account to the device to continue. Do you want to add one now?), probably due to an auto update. I had rolled back to 1.4.1 to root (which i later learned was unecessary), so the device updated itself a few weeks after my root. I used albert's method on a 4gb microSD.
Do I need to reroot the device? my concern is, will I lose all my apps, and all the settings of those apps? what all is lost / how should I go about fixing this?
anyone else have or know how to fix this issue?
go back to 1.4.0 and use albert's root sdcard method.
Will this cause it to try to update to 1.4.2 again in the future? Or will this fix it because the root was meant for blocking updates on 1.4.0?
I'll lose all my apps correct?
brutalmouse said:
Will this cause it to try to update to 1.4.2 again in the future? Or will this fix it because the root was meant for blocking updates on 1.4.0?
I'll lose all my apps correct?
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It all depends which root method you use to root but what you can do is always once rooted apply the the block separately by using titanium backup (indirect's method) that way you won't get the update, so far that is the most reliable way.
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My bad if this is a dumb question, but where can i find documentation on the indirect method? Instructions files etc.. Ready to try this one
brutalmouse said:
My bad if this is a dumb question, but where can i find documentation on the indirect method? Instructions files etc.. Ready to try this one
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In the development section.
How do i roll back to 1.4.0 with out any back updates and fastboot is not working with the adb fix?
With the coming update to .28 dont make the same mistake many of us did with .21. Use rootkeeper, takes a minute and saves a hassle. I've read that .28 fixed the workaround to downgrade so you really dont want to forget to use rootkeeper unless you want to go without root or unlock for a while.
nyijedi said:
Another important reminder before applying the update: If you manually removed or renamed any stock .apks to disable them, be sure to put them back before doing the update, or your Prime could be screwed up
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Thanks, forgot that!
Just a general shoutout, dont say you werent warned!
(If you have experiences with the .28 update why not keep it in this thread? no use having a dozen threads about the same thing like we do most updates )
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felisen said:
So I have been meaning to factory reset my prime to get rid of some of the bugs from the HC to ICS update. My plan was to do it after this next update, but your post just reminded me that I would lose root when I reset. Is that correct? Any way to keep it?
Can we root the current update? I'm wondering if I should reset now and root before this upcoming update?
Any info is welcome, thanks!
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If you want to revert to stock and KEEP ROOT do the following (worked for me, ymmv)
Download the firmware you are CURRENTLY ON (for me its .21)
Put that firmware in the ROOT DIRECTORY of your prime (not the removable SD card)
Restart your prime, it should detect that there is an update available and update you to .21 (the same FW you are on)
NOW that you are stock (all stock apps are there) you can go about reverting back to .15 (or your favorite pre-.21 update), use wolf's guide:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1622628
Get blob file for firmware (download firmware, extract, find blob file. I used .15) MAKE SURE ITS FOR YOUR AREA (Mine is WW)
copy blob file to root dir of the prime
In shell execute: ADB Reboot
let it reboot, dont touch anything
In shell execute: dd if=/sdcard/blob of=/dev/block/mmcblk0p4
it will appear nothing is happening for 3 to 10 minutes. Mine took closer to 15 minutes. BE PATIENT THIS BIT TAKES A WHILE
when you see records in/out in how many seconds you know its done.
in shell execute: ADB Reboot
you should now have a clean, freshly installed prime on .15 Root with your flavor of root tools, use OTA rootkeeper and OTA to .21, then when the OTA to .28 is ready in your area your good to go!
Credit to wolf, go to his thread, hit the thanks button.
Hit my thanks button if i helped! Good luck and i will try to bring forward important info as it happens.
Unless of course Asus do a **** move and completely overwrite /system or rm the voodoo rootkeeper backup specifically in the update script.
Thanks for the reminder.
Maybe Demandarin tells us how he lost his root. Clumbsyness or override by Asus?
Tell us the story bro.
131313 said:
Thanks for the reminder.
Maybe Demandarin tells us how he lost his root. Clumbsyness or override by Asus?
Tell us the story bro.
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If I had to guess it would be because he had to manually install the update from his micro-SD card. OTA Rootkeeper won't work that way.
Hi everyone
I rooted .15 and use OTA Rootkeeper and then OTA to .21.
When the .28 will be released do I have to do something with Rootkeeper or I just OTA to .28...then open Rootkeeper and recover root from .15?
Thx for answer and sorry for my english
phree1 said:
If I had to guess it would be because he had to manually install the update from his micro-SD card. OTA Rootkeeper won't work that way.
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ouch !!
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Let's see; I am on my forth prime since early april now. Three of them on .21 and I had to update all the three via an update.zip from the micro-sd. Do I remember this? Or is it wishful thinking??
... Yeah, I did it from the micro-sd card.... Pure speculation: otarootkeeper will work... Also Demandarin mentioned that GK asked him to do whatever test on his formerly rooted device, so this implies it should still work...but then GK probably doesn't even know how to power on the prime..........................................hell.................
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lukcinek said:
Hi everyone
I rooted .15 and use OTA Rootkeeper and then OTA to .21.
When the .28 will be released do I have to do something with Rootkeeper or I just OTA to .28...then open Rootkeeper and recover root from .15?
Thx for answer and sorry for my english
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You shouldn't have to do anything, but to be safe, open the app and ensure that it says something along the lines of "Root backed up/protected."
Another important reminder before applying the update: If you manually removed or renamed any stock .apks to disable them, be sure to put them back before doing the update, or your Prime could be screwed up
nyijedi said:
Another important reminder before applying the update: If you manually removed or renamed any stock .apks to disable them, be sure to put them back before doing the update, or your Prime could be screwed up
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Say what? This is true?
cam30era said:
Say what? This is true?
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Your prime won't be screwed up, but you will be unable to load the update.
I speak from personal experience.
I have heard it looks at the 'preinstall' folder.
Where else I do not know? Help
razr maxx - stock rom
cam30era said:
Say what? This is true?
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phree1 said:
Your prime won't be screwed up, but you will be unable to load the update.
I speak from personal experience.
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I never made this mistake, so I can't speak from personal experience, but I thought I remember people having problems as a result of this. However, I very well may have just been thinking of being unable to load the latest update.
Regardless, you don't want to experience either of these issues
phree1 said:
Your prime won't be screwed up, but you will be unable to load the update.
I speak from personal experience.
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Which .apk's have to be "in place" for the update load? All of the Google and Asus ones?
So I have been meaning to factory reset my prime to get rid of some of the bugs from the HC to ICS update. My plan was to do it after this next update, but your post just reminded me that I would lose root when I reset. Is that correct? Any way to keep it?
Can we root the current update? I'm wondering if I should reset now and root before this upcoming update?
Any info is welcome, thanks!
cam30era said:
Which .apk's have to be "in place" for the update load? All of the Google and Asus ones?
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I think the simple rule of thumb is that anything that cannot be uninstalled the normal way (e.g., through the settings menu without rooting and deleting/renaming .apks) must be present.
Where is the backup file made by Root Keeper saved?
Mine is rooted and su file is saved, but will the OTA delete the restore file when installing the new fw?
Should the Ota RK file be saved on the SD Card instead?
bimbobo said:
Where is the backup file made by Root Keeper saved?
Mine is rooted and su file is saved, but will the OTA delete the restore file when installing the new fw?
Should the Ota RK file be saved on the SD Card instead?
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You will be fine unless you choose to factory data wipe.
I saved a copy on the SD, just in case.
Appreciate the reminder. Rootkeeper looks to be in order and I think all I changed was the build.prop mod and the gps mod. I just put them back to stock so hopefully I'll be okay. Now comes the wait.
For those who forget how to revert to stock i wrote up a quick guide and posted it to OP.
Basically:
Download current FW
Install current FW
Use Wolf's guide to revert
Root
Use OTA rootkeeper
OTA to current version.
Good luck!
If I disabled some apps in app info will that be OK when updating
Or do I have to enable them all again
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So I found the title about the one-click root solution here.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1710871
My question is if I still need to backup my SMS/contacts or will this allow be to root the device, so that I can install a more functional backup app?
The instructions don't mention anything about backing up data and I could not find anything regarding this one.
All the other root instructions mention that I would need to back up SMS/contacts, but since I'm not rooted yet, I'd have no way to backup app settings.
Thanks.
duhfool said:
So I found the title about the one-click root solution here.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1710871
My question is if I still need to backup my SMS/contacts or will this allow be to root the device, so that I can install a more functional backup app?
The instructions don't mention anything about backing up data and I could not find anything regarding this one.
All the other root instructions mention that I would need to back up SMS/contacts, but since I'm not rooted yet, I'd have no way to backup app settings.
Thanks.
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HI!
It'll not erase anything. That's, maybe, the reason why there's nothing about sms/contacts. lol
Cheers
Hi all...
I wish to root my android device., I know that rooting itself is not a deadly procedure(i had not not done it before myself).
since my device is brand new, I'm not planning to flash a custom rom.
I would like to ask some questions:
does the supersu app notify me regarding an application's intended to run as root?
The main reason for rooting is to free up some space by deleting apks from /system/app.
what happens if delete these apks from there? is this a backup ?
expecting valuable replies...
motoshan said:
Hi all...
I wish to root my android device., I know that rooting itself is not a deadly procedure(i had not not done it before myself).
since my device is brand new, I'm not planning to flash a custom rom.
I would like to ask some questions:
does the supersu app notify me regarding an application's intended to run as root?
The main reason for rooting is to free up some space by deleting apks from /system/app.
what happens if delete these apks from there? is this a backup ?
expecting valuable replies...
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I came across this same dilemma a while ago with my SGS3. You can backup everything and I mean everything on your phone once it is rooted with Titanium Backup or any other app that has similar capabilities. It yields a fairly large file but you can have every stock item restored if you make a Nandroid backup. (which I strongly recommend in case something goes wrong).
You can find all the how-to´s in this forum with detailed videos and instructions. Just search for your phone and follow the threads that interest you.
By doing this, most carriers will void your warranty so be careful not to brick your phone. (There are some ways around this but there´s some reading involved if you´re interested)
supersu
does the supersu app notifies about any of the installed applications desire to run as root?
motoshan said:
Hi all...
I wish to root my android device., I know that rooting itself is not a deadly procedure(i had not not done it before myself).
since my device is brand new, I'm not planning to flash a custom rom.
I would like to ask some questions:
does the supersu app notify me regarding an application's intended to run as root?
The main reason for rooting is to free up some space by deleting apks from /system/app.
what happens if delete these apks from there? is this a backup ?
expecting valuable replies...
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Yes, the super su app does prompt for root access each and every time an app needs it. you can edit this option in the su app to either 'prompt always', 'deny always' and 'grant always'. Well, the sad news is, there isn't exactly a backup for all this. But, as long as it isn't something like the browser and such main apps, you can delete all the bloatware.
Before you ROOT the phone, be sure to backup.