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Oye. First post at XDA. I bought the TP at Canada Computers on December 23rd. They give two weeks for return, so I have until Friday to return or exchange this thing. If you were me, would you return this tablet? Here are my issues:
- gps will briefly lock outdoors, but loses the lock quickly after subtle movements
- hdmi output has issues with my Sony Bravia TV - only plays through left channel (using dice player and games like riptide)
- one white (dead) pixel near bottom right corner
- very slight white bleed on bottom right with black screen
What do you think? Maybe others are grappling with the same question.
Cheers,
lukin
****ing_lukin said:
Oye. First post at XDA. I bought the TP at Canada Computers on December 23rd. They give two weeks for return, so I have until Friday to return or exchange this thing. If you were me, would you return this tablet? Here are my issues:
- gps will briefly lock outdoors, but loses the lock quickly after subtle movements
- hdmi output has issues with my Sony Bravia TV - only plays through left channel (using dice player and games like riptide)
- one white (dead) pixel near bottom right corner
- very slight white bleed on bottom right with black screen
What do you think? Maybe others are grappling with the same question.
Cheers,
lukin
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the 1 single dead pixel did it for me
helllll yes
Yes, return it. The GPS issue is here to stay though. (Design flaw)
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Pixel did it for me. I am on the fence about the hdmi. I think that will happen with all of them until a fix is issued. But i would return it for the pixel.
If it is white it isn't dead though is it? I think it may be stuck. Have you tried massaging it or tapping it? I know it sounds weird but have you tried? Like with your finger or pencil eraser with a micro fiber cloth or some other material between so as not to scratch the screen. There are a few tricks if you Google it.
yeah I think the HDMI thing will just need firmware updates to fix, so hopefully will get sorted out. the pixel though is over the line, get a replacement.
Just preordered it...Hoping they come in this week. Been kicking the TF101/no TF201 around? and the Iconia A500. My wife pre ordered the prime while i was out so....I'm waiting in cyberline. Can't wait. Any other issues you guys finding?
If anything relate to screen, i would return or exchange right away, hard to ignore if you look at it every day....
Simple answer: Exchange it.
Why? If you're unhappy now, imagine how you'll feel once your small time window closes and you are still unhappy!!
Good god man, do it while y'ee have the chance!!
Yep, I'd return it for the pixel.
Single stuck pixel huh? I have one stuck red and thought that best buy would not take it back. If its a reasonable expectation that no pixels be dead or stuck then perhaps I will exchange it (if best buy lets me).
Thanks for the feedback. I am going try the screen massage, maybe break out the sexy time oils. If no luck, it goes back and I join the replacement line. It is is our first tablet and I wanted to get the best product. The bugs are testing my patience a bit. I bet it come with the territory when buying a brand new product.
Thanks.
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Single stuck pixel huh? I have one stuck red and thought that best buy would not take it back. If its a reasonable expectation that no pixels be dead or stuck then perhaps I will exchange it (if best buy lets me).
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So you say BB Woudn't take it back within their 14-days return policy?
I am not sure, I am going to send mine back to Amazon for a refund once more become in stock. Then I will re order it, hopefully with not stuck pixel. I am trying different pixel fixers/unsticking tools from the app market. Hopefully they will do the trick, as there is little wrong with it now. I did the battery drain thing to fix the messed up touch screen (never was bricked, just had poor sensitivity in random spots).
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- one white (dead) pixel near bottom right corner
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Fixed, and yes.
dead/stuck pixels are always a deal breaker.
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So you say BB Woudn't take it back within their 14-days return policy?
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I didnt try because I thought you needed a few dead pixels to warrant return. I dont really know anything about Best Buy, I have never bought from them before.
I guess I will try to exchange it.
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I didnt try because I thought you needed a few dead pixels to warrant return. I dont really know anything about Best Buy, I have never bought from them before.
I guess I will try to exchange it.
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They will take it back for any reason, even buyer's remorse, for 14 days. 45 days if you are a silver reward member.
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Help-To...cy/pcmcat204400050028.c?id=pcmcat204400050028
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the 1 single dead pixel did it for me
helllll yes
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Same here. I had a monitor I kept with a dead pixel and I regretted not returning it for 3 years. Thing bugged me to death, but at the time I didn't want to go 3 weeks without a monitor to return it. I say at least try to exchange it as you should never have to put up with a dead pixel.
The HDMI and GPS probably will continue. The GPS issue is known and the HDMI is probably a handshaking issue with the DRM. A lot of devices can have these issues whether its your TV's problem or the Prime would not be known. DRM should never be included in cabling which is why I hate HDMI.
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They will take it back for any reason, even buyer's remorse, for 14 days. 45 days if you are a silver reward member.
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I guess I was mostly thinking that getting one stuck pixel is normal and getting no stuck pixels was an unrealistic expectation.
Looks like I was wrong, so I will exchange and hopefully get one without a stuck pixel.
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I guess I was mostly thinking that getting one stuck pixel is normal and getting no stuck pixels was an unrealistic expectation.
Looks like I was wrong, so I will exchange and hopefully get one without a stuck pixel.
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I have 2 stuck pixels that I only see on a black background when looking real hard for it. I have never seen them any other way, so I dont plan on sending it back to newegg. If I had bought it locally and could get another to try before I had to return it, then I might feel different. The fact they are still difficult to get, and how hard it is for me to see it, I will keep it.
Here's an update on my headache about whether or not to return my TP. This will also discuss the GPS issue, so others might be interested.
I spoke to customer service today about the issue discussed above. This is their response to each:
1) GPS. They told me to download the firmware update and that would fix the issue. After updating there had been some improvement, but not enough. Basically the blue arrow in google maps bounced around my current location around 30 meters from where I am. For example, up the street, one street over, down the street, and even 10 kms away on the other end of the city. It never stayed fixed on my actual address.
At that point the supervisor suggested that it be sent to ASUS for repairs. This is where we got into a over the top semantic conversation. First of all, they wouldn't acknowledge that there has been problems with GPS for others or that they had posted any public response to the issues. Weird. They wouldn't acknowledge the aluminum case issue.
I told them I have two days left to return to the store and I want a guarantee that it will come back to me with GPS fixed. They said that any product that goes to the service centre will come back fixed. However, they don't know that the fix will be "up to the customers standard" for GPS. I said, okay, what is a reasonable standard for GPS functionality? That it can lock onto a couple satellites and not bounce around the screen like a pinball. He agreed this would be what he wanted from a GPS, but would not say that for certain this would be the end result of the recalibration. Then he began to talk about "environmental factors" that could impact the signal. I said, we've got blue sky and sun today, will it work on a day like today? He wouldn't guarantee that either.
2) HDMI output issue. He said it would be reported to quality control and that it may be fixed with a future update. No guarantee either.
3) Stuck white pixel. This issue seems to have gone away (awesome), but he said it would be fixed if sent for repairs.
I called Canada Computers to ask for some kind of an extension to their 14 day return policy, to have time to see what the repair does for GPS. They shot that down pretty quick. If I keep it past 14 days, there can be no return. They said I could return it and wait for another one, but there is no current stock or promise of when the next shipment arrives.
Two more questions for the forum to chew on:
1) Has anyone reported a fully functional GPS on this device. That they can drive in their car and the satellite remains locked? I have only seen videos that show it doesn't work - like the bloke who kept on calling it rubbish. If there are working GPS out there, then I'm more likely to roll the dice with the repair.
2) Will the Sony TV issue get fixed? I have read people that say it's a software issue and correctable; whereas others talked about DRM and that a fix isn't possible. I didn't actually understand the DRM piece entirely.
3) What quad core android tablets do we expect over the next couple months that will challenge the TP for top dog status? Maybe I can return and wait.
Thanks for reading.
Backstory: Staples initially had the TFP available online for a short period, but brought it down within a few days of making it available. I called asking why, and the rep didn't have any info, but told me they could special order me one so I could use my rewards that I have been accumulating (close to $300).
Ordered my TFP on 1/5/12 and was scheduled to get it about a week ago due to wholesaler backorder, but the shipping date got pushed to 1/25/12 due to unavailability. It was only another week, so I decided to wait. I called my rep yesterday around 5 since I hadn't received my package. He called around and eventually got to a specialist team that said that Staples is refusing to sell any more TFPs until all the bugs have been worked out and they can guarantee me a quality product that works as described, due to the abundance of returns and problems with the device in the past months.
Just thought it was interesting a retailer was taking a stand like this. At first I was upset because I know theres only about a 1/3 - 1/5 chance I'll get one with Wifi troubles, which is the only thing I fear. But knowing that I wont have to worry about setting up then returning and setting up again and returning that many people are having to put up with eases my mind, especially with my academics ramping up.
Just thought I'd share
Someone posted on another forum that for the same reason, Amazon currently isn't taking any new orders for the Prime.
Good I hope ASUS loses millions of dollers they deserve it.
It's hard to know what the overall return rate is because the general public usually isn't as anal as XDA'ers. But based on what's been shared here people have gone through four Prime's to get one they're satisfied with. 5% (1:100) is typical in electronics and it costs resellers 15-20% of their costs to process a return. If the Prime's running 1:4 alarms will go off in corporate offices that track return rates and failures. At $499 resellers are making less than $100 on the Prime's they sell. At some point, it becomes a tilt. Resellers will start asking for compensation or added margin to continue selling the Prime if Asus doesn't get their act together.
I'm either in the minority or I waited long enough for the problems to get mostly worked out. I received my Prime from Amazon last week and it's been flawless. Literally zero issues other than some minor light leaking, but I've not had a single device that wasn't guilty of that to some extent. Oh well, I hate to see Asus getting slammed like they are because I love their products, but maybe it's what they need to turn their quality control around.
I think its wise for retailers to refuse any release of a product that has a high return rate. Why? Because for every return, the retailer gets a bad stigma from consumers where they bought the product from. Yes, they dont make the product but they are responsible making decisions to stocking problematic products on their shelves. Then you have the an unnecessary que forming in in the line from the same product over and over again. I know my exchanges on bestbuy delayed them since their returns and sales where on the same line at the time when I arrived. Took my about 15 mins, they made no sales, and the line slowed down since I took up 1 of the 2 sales clerk. I returned it twice and my final was a refund of two tablets took 30 mins with 2 sales clerks. They had to open up another station while I was getting helped.
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I think its wise for retailers to refuse any release of a product that has a high return rate. Why? Because for every return, the retailer gets a bad stigma from consumers where they bought the product from. Yes, they dont make the product but they are responsible making decisions to stocking problematic products on their shelves. Then you have the an unnecessary que forming in in the line from the same product over and over again. I know my exchanges on bestbuy delayed them since their returns and sales where on the same line at the time when I arrived. Took my about 15 mins, they made no sales, and the line slowed down since I took up 1 of the 2 sales clerk. I returned it twice and my final was a refund of two tablets took 30 mins with 2 sales clerks. They had to open up another station while I was getting helped.
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And then... They have to return it to Asus either from an individual store or by shipping it back to their central warehouse. It needs to be run through accounting to have the amount they owe Asus debited for sending it back. It has to be logged in case it's lost or damaged in shipping. Asus may or may not pay the return shipping costs depending on the contract they have with the reseller. Typically large resellers have a clause in their contracts to deal with returns in excess of X% that either trigger a renegotiation or some type of penalty. None of this is good for Asus' profitability.
All I can say is Damn! Lol. ASUS really needs to get on the ball, like yesterday, and deal with these issues head one. Its a shame as this is a great device when it isn't crippled with issues some have been dealing with, like my Prime. I've used mines nonstop since I got it on 12/22 n had no problems with it, aside from obvious GPS issue. I really like it alot n still consider it the best tablet I've had. Even better than my Ipad. BUT ISSUES can't be downplayed or ignored anymore by Asus. If some retailers are refusing to sell the Prime, this could be detrimental to Asus sales. I just hope for the best that they will resolve all of this in a timely manner. Its still only been a month since release so its early enough to turn things around.
MY Prime works well but with all this chaos going on, I've accepted the fact that Overall, Asus really f#&!?!# up this launch of a great product. Everyone's device needs to work great. We know there will be errors but its all adding up too much now. Its too many out there. Doesn't matter anymore if its the minority. It seems like enough now to be a serious problem for Asus.
Let us pray for them..lmfao
just lou said:
Someone posted on another forum that for the same reason, Amazon currently isn't taking any new orders for the Prime.
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That's the way it should be, stop the shipment and resolve the problem first. When Asus admitted gps problems and modified the specs without lowering the price, there's definitely something amiss with the product. This is further aggravated by the various problems encountered with this "brand new" product which was rushed out the door during the holiday season.
No Amazon, no deal!
Kind of makes me nervous to buy one. I follow these forums to see if it is worth picking up or waiting a little longer.
Yeah I'm highly disappointed with the Prime, overall this device seems to have skipped the whole test stage of development. I owned an original TF (that i bought in Apr 2011) and was very happy with how it performed and the support out of Asus. I'm returning my Prime today (bought from bestbuy Jan13th), I've waited as long as possible for Asus to address the issues and I'm fearful that this unit (TF201) will simply have to be discontinued (or drastic price reductions) in order to gain widespread traction in the market place. I know that ASUS says the new TF700 is slated to be a Premium product in the lineup, I'm just doubtful that it can stay at $600+. Add in the speculation and possibility that Apple will release a new product/features and the pressure on ASUS and others in the Android camp will be to compete aggressively on price.
With close to 60% of the tablet market (and one that is shrinking rapidly due to devices like Kindle Fire etc), it's pretty clear i think that we're about to see some significant changes soon....
I wish the MeMo was available today grrrr....
There are people on these forums that are up to 5 primes and are still looking for the perfect Prime. IT will take time for them to find the perfect one as there is not. So the returns they bring are killing ASUS.
There are also people like me who got a BC prime from gamestop that didn't have any issues aside from GPS. After a quick press near the GPS connector area, I can now stay locked on, even though signal is still low. No WiFi issues, no light bleed, no crashing, dock works fine, battery life seems great, etc.
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Kind of makes me nervous to buy one. I follow these forums to see if it is worth picking up or waiting a little longer.
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Well two major online retailers, Amazon and Staples, have already decided to stop selling the Prime and I suspect a high rate of return has got them nervous too. Walmart carries the 101 but not the 201, and now I'm really curious at to why. Did they know something we don't?
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There are also people like me who got a BC prime from gamestop that didn't have any issues aside from GPS. After a quick press near the GPS connector area, I can now stay locked on, even though signal is still low. No WiFi issues, no light bleed, no crashing, dock works fine, battery life seems great, etc.
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The spring loaded pogo stick connector is pure lame design, Asus used all kinds of ribbon connectors on the Prime but dropped the ball where it was critically important. Anytime a mechanical connection is used, it becomes a point of resistance to the rf signal and when oxidation tarnishes the contacts the reception get even worse. So two issues related to the rf signals are metal shielding and poor electrical contact. Cold solder joints may also be a factor, a rush job will surely contribute to that.
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There are also people like me who got a BC prime from gamestop that didn't have any issues aside from GPS. After a quick press near the GPS connector area, I can now stay locked on, even though signal is still low. No WiFi issues, no light bleed, no crashing, dock works fine, battery life seems great, etc.
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Theres obviously alot of primes out there that are perfectly fine. Like I said, most polls range from 20-30% of primes having wifi issues, clearly the largest problem among a list of 3-4 valid concerns. I just thought that it was interesting that retailers are actually stepping in to protect the consumer in such a dramatic way. I've never heard of anything like this, even with much bigger hardware failures (RROD anyone?).
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Theres obviously alot of primes out there that are perfectly fine. Like I said, most polls range from 20-30% of primes having wifi issues, clearly the largest problem among a list of 3-4 valid concerns. I just thought that it was interesting that retailers are actually stepping in to protect the consumer in such a dramatic way. I've never heard of anything like this, even with much bigger hardware failures (RROD anyone?).
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I doubt retailers are stepping in to protect the consumer. Its more likely that the returns are making the retailers lose money and they refuse to buy anymore from Asus until they solve the problems.
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No surprise there. I had 3 primes in my hands the last month.
2 in the US from Best Buy both with dead pixels
1 in the UK, tablet great except for a little light bleed but the dock was DOA. Couldn't get the dock to charge at all, like the battery is non-existant.
I am still trying for another one.. that's after John Lewis UK can't get any in stock and had to cancel.
Nervous getting it from Frys and Best Buy next week when I am in the US again. If I get it in the UK I can get 2 years warranty.
HiddenSanctum said:
I doubt retailers are stepping in to protect the consumer. Its more likely that the returns are making the retailers lose money and they refuse to buy anymore from Asus until they solve the problems.
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For sure an open box return item will no longer sell as brand new for the same price.
Mikers99 said:
There are people on these forums that are up to 5 primes and are still looking for the perfect Prime. IT will take time for them to find the perfect one as there is not. So the returns they bring are killing ASUS.
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*rolls eyes*
I've witnesses multiple smartphone and device launches, and I hear the same crap about foolish users returning 3-5 phones -- this is even for the HTC Evo and HTC Evo 3D which are regarded has being quite commercially successful.
There are some legitimate issues out there that warrant a return (serial number bug here comes to mind), but I'm willing to put money down that many of the returned units are fine, but were returned because of overzealous customers.
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I've witnesses multiple smartphone and device launches, and I hear the same crap about foolish users returning 3-5 phones -- this is even for the HTC Evo and HTC Evo 3D which are regarded has being quite commercially successful.
There are some legitimate issues out there that warrant a return (serial number bug here comes to mind), but I'm willing to put money down that many of the returned units are fine, but were returned because of overzealous customers.
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True...I had ran out of thankx
So I sent my tablet in on 4/8th and it was received by asus on the 12th according to the Fedex tracking, but shows the 13th. Thats fine a day to register it...
I waited 14 business days, called to have it escalated, they told me someone was going to call me in 24-48 hours. Ok i patiently waited, 48 hours passed no contact via email nor phone.
I called again, this time I spoke to a supervisor he assured me that an email was sent to the tech center, and I would have to wait 24-48 hours for them to contact me. OK I waited patiently again since a supervisor assured me...
Now today, 48 hours have passed, I contacted them again, they said theres nothing they can do but wait 48 hours and if no one contacts me then call back...
it seems like i'm giving the runaround waiting 2 days then 2 days then 2 days...
I tried to contact Gary Key via PM and Email but he hasnt contacted me back over 2 weeks, same with Hai Trat...
Any suggestions? I'm thinking to file a BBB complaint and go to small claims court...
Yeah, Asus support has pretty much guaranteed they are now on my no buy list...
Tried to register my Asus (open box) and it was already registered. They keep telling me they will delete the info so I can register it and get the dongle, but every time I try it says serial number already registered.
It's like at least a week between each reply too, and in poor English. Not impressed. Good luck on your RMA!
More and more horror stories. Not surprised.
It's really a sh*t show over at Asus.
People should only RMA their tablet if there are major problems with the tablet. Not just things like dead pixels, random restarts or weak wi-fi. Not worth the risk.
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More and more horror stories. Not surprised.
It's really a sh*t show over at Asus.
People should only RMA their tablet if there are major problems with the tablet. Not just things like dead pixels, random restarts or weak wi-fi. Not worth the risk.
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Well, mine was a major thing, the camera didn't work, had a green screen... I can live with crappy wifi and no gps..but come on now...dead camera -_-
well after Hai Trat replied back to me on my email, it was shipped back out to me the next day. just got a shipment notification from fedex.. lets hope my tablet is in one piece
Hopefully yours won't come back with the backplate scratched up. Still waiting to hear from Asus on that.
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Hopefully yours won't come back with the backplate scratched up. Still waiting to hear from Asus on that.
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i had a invisible shield on the backplate...so unless they remove it, i should be ok I HOPE
honestly it's not ASUS service so to speak that is bad, its is their contracted repair centers. Problem is since they contract out they don't have any idea as to the inner workings of the repair centers. So when we call all they can do is send them emails and hope they respond. I do agree this is still not acceptable and they need to really rethink how they contract/who they contract out.
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honestly it's not ASUS service so to speak that is bad, its is their contracted repair centers. Problem is since they contract out they don't have any idea as to the inner workings of the repair centers. So when we call all they can do is send them emails and hope they respond. I do agree this is still not acceptable and they need to really rethink how they contract/who they contract out.
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Agreed, but since it was their choice of contracted repair centers, I believe the blame is on them... A huge company like Asus ...contracting 3rd rate repair centers? Really shows how much they care about their customers TBH. There's no way in hell I would purchase another Asus product in the future, even if they were the only company to have a keyboard dock. It is not worth the hassle, in the case of something going wrong with the product and waiting a whole month to get it back. IMHO.
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One month at this stage.. Two months total.. I used the tablet for two weeks, don't even remember how it looks like anymore.. Consumer advisors etc. have contacted asus and nothing happens. They refuse to repair it in/out of warranty, they refuse return my money.. Or in fact, they do not directly refuse, they just promise to "look into it"
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Waiting-[WF4] Wait for Customer Confirmation-CID\OOW 2012/04/06
One month at this stage.. Two months total.. I used the tablet for two weeks, don't even remember how it looks like anymore.. Consumer advisors etc. have contacted asus and nothing happens. They refuse to repair it in/out of warranty, they refuse return my money.. Or in fact, they do not directly refuse, they just promise to "look into it"
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Two months really?!
Mine has been in RMA for 1 month to date (today) and I thought I had it bad.
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Two months really?!
Mine has been in RMA for 1 month to date (today) and I thought I had it bad.
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It's now almost 3 month for me. One one my primes had a broken glass, I paid for it, but so far I only get different answers, from is ready to be shipped to no spare parts or it goes out tomorrow. I contacted now my lawyer.
Definitely the last time I bought something with an Asus Label on it.
Mine went into the Europe centre (Slapanice, CzR)on 26th April with screen mura - says it's ready for shipping today, exactly 14 days. If it is back within the week that won't have been too bad; though it has been a very frustrating due to the lack of information bout the whole process that's available from the RMA progress site and the fact that the support email team have no access to what's going on in the repair centre, but moreover because of my own tendency to check on the status 5 times a day. Of course it's still not in my hands yet...
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Mine went into the Europe centre (Slapanice, CzR)on 26th April with screen mura - says it's ready for shipping today, exactly 14 days. If it is back within the week that won't have been too bad; though it has been a very frustrating due to the lack of information bout the whole process that's available from the RMA progress site and the fact that the support email team have no access to what's going on in the repair centre, but moreover because of my own tendency to check on the status 5 times a day. Of course it's still not in my hands yet...
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Don't want to destroy your hopes, but mine was ready to ship on the 15th March.
damn, I don't know how you guys wait so long...after 14 business days, I was calling them every 1-2 days, emailing asus reps every 1-2 days until they responded.. i waited for a month to get it back and its coming back tomorrow... got it in jan...ridiculous waiting for a whole month ya know? they aint gonna pay me back for depreciation on the tablet if i were to sell it...
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Don't want to destroy your hopes, but mine was ready to ship on the 15th March.
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It's got a tracking number as of this morning - so my hopes are still partially alive...
Well just a quick update, I got my tablet back today, and holy **** I am so lucky I had a invisible shield for my backplate, because there is A WHOLE ****LOAD of scuff marks on the back......and the metal part near the charging port was bent but I fixed it by pushing it back... and it seems like I have more light bleed than before. There was only a little bit of light bleed on the top right corner when i sent it in, now theres light bleed on the bottom right and bottom side......grr. oh well, lesson learned. never buy anything Asus no more.
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Well just a quick update, I got my tablet back today, and holy **** I am so lucky I had a invisible shield for my backplate, because there is A WHOLE ****LOAD of scuff marks on the back......and the metal part near the charging port was bent but I fixed it by pushing it back... and it seems like I have more light bleed than before. There was only a little bit of light bleed on the top right corner when i sent it in, now theres light bleed on the bottom right and bottom side......grr. oh well, lesson learned. never buy anything Asus no more.
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Lol, they may have left a rubber stopper between the screen and battery again
Ridiculous, I almost want to contact the BBB on the repair centers doing the work, not ASUS
I just got mine back from rma, looks like all is well, but will have to see whether i get ota after the next update.
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Lol, they may have left a rubber stopper between the screen and battery again
Ridiculous, I almost want to contact the BBB on the repair centers doing the work, not ASUS
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Lol, I hope not... yeah I was so mad I wanted to contact BBB or the small claims court.... a whole month doing a repair?...and their turn around time was STATED 10-14 BUSINESS DAYS...
Well on a side note, they didnt touch the os at all though, I still had root lol...
Okay, so I sent my TF201 as well as the power cable in for an RMA because the shoddily designed power connector ended up mangling the receptacle on the tablet. I could charge the tablet only by plugging in the keyboard dock, and even then that's iffy.
It was over 2 weeks since I sent the tablet via UPS and they hadn't contacted me. I checked on the RMA site and it said this:
Waiting-[WF4] Wait for Customer Confirmation-Customer Induced Damage \Out-Of-Warranty
No emails or anything. I called Asus and the customer support guy, while polite, was clueless and couldn't help me. No explanation either, which the customer service guy parroted. He estimated the repair cost to be around $130. Screw that! I asked him to escalate the case, but from what I've read online, customer support from Asus is impotent.
Also, I just got off the phone with support guy number 3. Again, complete waste of my time. He wouldn't pass me off to a supervisor when I asked (twice).
Does anyone have any suggestions? What are my options at this point? What magic phrase do I need to use in order for Asus to actually honor their warranty?
This is definitely a make-or-break moment for Asus and my future business with them. I've got an Asus motherboard, an Asus monitor, and a tablet, but I will not hesitate to drop them and recommend others avoid them if this isn't resolved.
Warranty is not really too useful - this is the manufacturer assuring you that is specific things break in a specific period, they will replace them. What is much more powerful (potentially) is consumer protection legislation. Goods must be as described, fit for purpose, safe, etc.
Typical behaviour is to claim you broke 'it' by doing something silly (pulling the connector at a bad angle maybe). You need to demonstrate a design or manufacturing flaw.
In the UK, the claim is against the vendor, not the manufacturer.
You may be able to pursue legal action for a refund (less deduction for the time it was usable).
Likely, if you press hard enough (in writing, with traceability, not by phone), they will agree to some compromise. If no-one else has complained of the same problem, they will rightly assume you are pulling a fast one.
Contact head office in your country - noone else will have the authority to waive the repair fee.
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Warranty is not really too useful - this is the manufacturer assuring you that is specific things break in a specific period, they will replace them. What is much more powerful (potentially) is consumer protection legislation. Goods must be as described, fit for purpose, safe, etc.
Typical behaviour is to claim you broke 'it' by doing something silly (pulling the connector at a bad angle maybe). You need to demonstrate a design or manufacturing flaw.
In the UK, the claim is against the vendor, not the manufacturer.
You may be able to pursue legal action for a refund (less deduction for the time it was usable).
Likely, if you press hard enough (in writing, with traceability, not by phone), they will agree to some compromise. If no-one else has complained of the same problem, they will rightly assume you are pulling a fast one.
Contact head office in your country - noone else will have the authority to waive the repair fee.
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Sorry this isn't going to help but... why do you expect them to repair your device for free if it was damaged while plugging/unplugging? Did you yank it in some odd way and cause it to deform?
I too have noted that the back side of where it plugs in us more exposed than the front due to the angle/slope of the back plate at the edge. I worry something bad will happen if I yank on it. I am more careful because of this.
If you leave the gas nozzle in your car at a gas station and drive off you can't expect the dealer/manufacturer to warranty any damage to your vehicle AND you will most likely get billed by the station for the repair to their pump.
I'm sorry you are having the problem but I'm not seeing ASUS at fault here. You claim it broke due to shoddy design. I doubt it did so on its own and I am sure that is the way they see it too.
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Sorry this isn't going to help but... why do you expect them to repair your device for free if it was damaged while plugging/unplugging? Did you yank it in some odd way and cause it to deform?
I too have noted that the back side of where it plugs in us more exposed than the front due to the angle/slope of the back plate at the edge. I worry something bad will happen if I yank on it. I am more careful because of this.
If you leave the gas nozzle in your car at a gas station and drive off you can't expect the dealer/manufacturer to warranty any damage to your vehicle AND you will most likely get billed by the station for the repair to their pump.
I'm sorry you are having the problem but I'm not seeing ASUS at fault here. You claim it broke due to shoddy design. I doubt it did so on its own and I am sure that is the way they see it too.
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Nope. I treated that thing well. I noticed that the plug was not solidly built pretty early on into my ownership cycle, so I took care to make sure that when I plugged it in, the cord was nice and straight and the plug was gently put in. Obviously *something* must have caused the pins to be mangled but if it was because of a bump, that's shoddy product design, not carelessness on my part.
If it was a $20 repair I'd eat the bill, but they a.) haven't even gotten back to me why they believe it's my fault, b.) they haven't emailed me at all, I've done all of the reaching out to Asus, and c.) they say they're waiting for MY response even though no one at the call center can answer what response they're actually waiting for. The second guy I talked to just estimated that the bill would be "around $130".
I am willing to work with Asus on this, but they're not willing to work with me. See what I mean?
Where did you purchase the unit and how long ago? (These are actually rhetorical questions).
If your purchase was within the past 90 days and you paid with a credit card, you may be able to work with your credit card company and refuse the charges. Not that the retailer should necessarily eat the cost, but if you bought from Amazon, Target, etc., they probably have some sway with Asus. Make your pain their pain...
Hopefully you took pictures of the damage before sending it...
This is EXACTLY what I am going through right now with Asus.
My daughter's Prime boots to the ASUS screen and gets stuck there and will not turn off.
I called tech support and they walked me through several attempts to reset, said they thought it was a software issue and then gave me an RMA number. (BTW, I had also RMA'd my own Prime earlier this year due to GPS and wifi issues and it came back to me with a scratch on the lid. So my husband and I went over my daughter's tablet with a fine tooth comb before sending.) I shipped it in the box and packaging that Asus returned mine in.
I sent it 11/29 and they rec'd it 12/3. On 12/4, the RMA status said
Waiting-[WF4] Wait for Customer Confirmation-Customer Induced Damage \Out-Of-Warranty
No one contacted me. I called Asus on 3 separate occasions - each unable to tell me anything but promising to escalate. I rec'd no calls back.
On Dec 13th, we received an email from Megan Nesmith saying there is customer induced damage and an invoice for repairs. Attached were 2 close-up photos showing VERY OBVIOUS damage - a deep jagged crack in the front corner of the screen and additional damage where it looks like someone pried up the metal around the power button with a screw driver.
At this point, I spoke to a Kamar (sp) who said that I would receive a call by tomorrow evening once they investigate.
I am feeling as if they know my warranty is almost up (end of december) and are going to hold the tablet hostage- my word against theirs. I have done some research and have read similar stories about the Asus Texas repair facility. I don't know what to do if they come back and tell us there is nothing they can do and expect us to pay. I really feel taken advantage of. Anyone have advice for a situation like this?
What's interesting here is the lack of consistency
last week, I RMA'd my Unlocked prime for a sound issue, the issue was it just stopped working through both the speaker, and headphone jack. Asus honored the warranty and fixed it free of charge, I was expecting to get charged, but did not, in fact, it was a one day turnaround in Grapevine TX, my guess is they tested it, and just sent me a different prime, and its already on the way back, I should have it back tomorrow, its possible they may not have fixed it at all. I admit I am very nervous about it, I was told minimum of 10 days when I rma'd. I was very shocked when I checked the status, to make sure they had it logged in as received, and it said ready to ship, after 1 day, and repair status, was device repaired OK, let alone not being charged.I am very curious to see whether it come's back from Grapevine relocked, as I have read several peoples posts here XDA that after Rma the Tablets are relocked, and unlockable due to serial number removal
I even sent it in with a fresh install of Androwook 1.51.Asus didn't seem to have any issues with it being unlocked, at least with me, and I have never seen such a fast turn around on a RMA , EVER. My last Asus Rma took about 4 weeks on a Asus Rampage 4 extreme Motherboard
So why is there this kind of of consistency issues when RMA'ing. This should be pretty cut and dried
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What's interesting here is the lack of consistency
last week, I RMA'd my Unlocked prime for a sound issue, the issue was it just stopped working through both the speaker, and headphone jack. Asus honored the warranty and fixed it free of charge, I was expecting to get charged, but did not, in fact, it was a one day turnaround in Grapevine TX, my guess is they tested it, and just sent me a different prime, and its already on the way back, I should have it back tomorrow, its possible they may not have fixed it at all. I admit I am very nervous about it, I was told minimum of 10 days when I rma'd. I was very shocked when I checked the status, to make sure they had it logged in as received, and it said ready to ship, after 1 day, and repair status, was device repaired OK, let alone not being charged.I am very curious to see whether it come's back from Grapevine relocked, as I have read several peoples posts here XDA that after Rma the Tablets are relocked, and unlockable due to serial number removal
I even sent it in with a fresh install of Androwook 1.51.Asus didn't seem to have any issues with it being unlocked, at least with me, and I have never seen such a fast turn around on a RMA , EVER. My last Asus Rma took about 4 weeks on a Asus Rampage 4 extreme Motherboard
So why is there this kind of of consistency issues when RMA'ing. This should be pretty cut and dried
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I think it has more to do with the repair depot. They arent actually owned by ASUS, rather Authorized by passing a series of tests/checks. Down the hall from me where I work we have a computer hardware repair department that is Dell, HP, Lenovo and possibly Gateway authorized.
So essentially you are dealing with a company with its own set of rules/standards who want to turn a profit and depending on their moral compass etc... you may get billed for a MOBO like I will in Texas if a flash goes wrong and I send it in VS Europe who will just reflash the ROM. Further other folks are having trouble with the call backs etc...
I think what would be most usefull is to compile a list of repair depots that are doing what so others can avoid using the ones they think will shaft them.
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I think it has more to do with the repair depot. They arent actually owned by ASUS, rather Authorized by passing a series of tests/checks. Down the hall from me where I work we have a computer hardware repair department that is Dell, HP, Lenovo and possibly Gateway authorized.
So essentially you are dealing with a company with its own set of rules/standards who want to turn a profit and depending on their moral compass etc... you may get billed for a MOBO like I will in Texas if a flash goes wrong and I send it in VS Europe who will just reflash the ROM. Further other folks are having trouble with the call backs etc...
I think what would be most usefull is to compile a list of repair depots that are doing what so others can avoid using the ones they think will shaft them.
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Thats nothing just time to let off some frustration. I'm an owner of an Asus Transformer infinity tablet and i pray to god I never have to RMA that. I had an asus Blu-ray Burner that died on me. I sent if for repairs on January 28th 2013. after a few weeks went by not hearing anything I checked online wasn't in a rush for it no inquiry was made I called them and they said the drive was mailed on the 15th of February. After not receiving the drive on the 29th I called back and they said that is weird their systems says it was mailed but did not have a tracking number. They would have to look into it and get back to me. Tuesday February 26th I called again speaking to 20 different reps at this point they finally just reissued another drive shipped on the 27th on February. After all this received the Drive today and its a dvd burner not a blu-ray burner wrong product. Freaking ridiculous. I swear on my grave treat your asus product like a god because their RMA department is crap!!! I just took screenshots and photos to prove they sent me a wrong product.
I've just about had it with RMA. My Transformer has been back and forth to ASUS for six months. It's a total of seven times and they still haven't fixed it. It originally went in for WiFi and gps issues. When it was returned I found grit under the digitizer and so it went back. They replaced the screen and mobo. When it came back there was a huge gap between the screen and the body. So, I sent it back again. They replaced the back panel and when it came back there was still a gap and there was damage to the seal around the screen. So, it went back again. This time they replaced the back again and on receiving it I found the gap was even larger and they had bent the body, forcing the screen in. So, again it went back and they replaced the back panel and screen. On return the gap was still there, the damage was still present on the "new" screen and the hadn't even locked the release catches. I compared the damage on the "new" screen with the photos I took for the previous RMA. Basically, they hadn't replaced the screen. They collected it again today and assure me it will be resolved. I really don't think it will. The technicians clearly don't care and lie about the parts they replace. I think they hope that if they just keep sending it back with some bull**** on the slip that one day I'll give up. I won't though. I spent a lot of money on it and I won't accept the repair centre damaging my property. The most ridiculous part is that they have now spent more on postage than I paid for it. I can think of an easier resolution for this, that's far more cost effective.
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I sent my Prime to RMA, took 1 week.
1. Wifi improved by 1 Bar
2. I GOT YELLOW TINTED SCREEN!
They replaced my touch panel due to flex. Yes RMA has improved my prime but gave me an icky yellow tint. Oh gosh.
Hi,
I'm living in France and i've just found a brocker who want to sell a lot of tablets here
Code:
leboncoin.fr/informatique/497860592.htm?ca=7_s
This is a french company, and i didn't know it. It's near Paris.This company seems to be regular according; the "who we are page" on its website :
Code:
lesoldeur.fr/content/4-qui-sommes-nous
I think this could be a good opportunity for people having a hard-bricked device getting a motherboard. However the seller want too sell the lot, only. If many further people ask for a tablet, he's able to sell all the lot in a short time, this could be interesting for him!
I think too this will be interesting only for people leaving in France maybe on a European country and able speaking french, don't forgot the custom's fee's outside europe!
What do you think?
Note : NO WAY for me buying the whole lot and selling it to each people who need it!
Hi.
Basically I bought a Nexus 9 and noticed a Dead Pixel (or something of the sort, I have no idea what it is) in the lower left portion of the screen. I contacted Google Support once, and they told me they can't give me a replacement. It was at this point I rang the next day and said I wanted to return it (I'd only had it 2 days) and they said a Dead Pixel does warrant a replacement. Now, on the return email it said that Google Specialists will take a look at the faulty tablet, and if deemed fine will ask me to return the replacement. Considering the first Google employee I spoke to said this was not an issue, is there a chance I'll have to send a replacement back and be stuck with my original one? That dead pixel was driving me absolutely nuts. Just wondering if anyone had any experience with the returns procedure of Google.
Thanks.
Depending on the country you live there are laws that over write what goggle will tell you. A dead pixel is a definite fault that warrants a return. In the old days led monitors had a dead pixel clause. Less than 3 didn't warrant a return. These days 1 is a reason.
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Depending on the country you live there are laws that over write what goggle will tell you. A dead pixel is a definite fault that warrants a return. In the old days led monitors had a dead puzzle clause. Less than 3 didn't warrant a return. These days 1 is a reason.
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I'm from the UK but the fact 1 is a reason is comforting.
Thanks for the reply though. The returns process has been extremely good, I rang yesterday to arrange a replacement and it has been shipped today already, I'll probably get it tomorrow
From the UK here, I requested an RMA last Thursday due to a dead pixel and screen bleed. The process for me was really straightforward once I had rang them. They sent a replacement unit through yesterday but unfortunately that's even worse than my original. So I rang them again and they were really helpful. I've requested a refund so I'm going to send back my old unit first then they will send more shipping materials to send back my replacement then refund my money once it's all complete. Hope it all carries on as smooth as it has so far.
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From the UK here, I requested an RMA last Thursday due to a dead pixel and screen bleed. The process for me was really straightforward once I had rang them. They sent a replacement unit through yesterday but unfortunately that's even worse than my original. So I rang them again and they were really helpful. I've requested a refund so I'm going to send back my old unit first then they will send more shipping materials to send back my replacement then refund my money once it's all complete. Hope it all carries on as smooth as it has so far.
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Ah, guess you got quite lucky. The first time there seemed to be an absolute doughnut on the other end of the phone. He couldn't comprehend what a dead pixel was, got me send him a photo and then replies saying they can't replace it.
I had a bit more luck the second time round, my plan was to just straight up return it and just buy a new one with the refunded money. The woman asked why I wanted to return it, I explained the situation and she said she can arrange a replacement for me right now. The only thing I'm worried about is whether it's a dead pixel or not. Aren't dead pixels normally black? This is like really white, it might be a scratch on the inner surface of the screen or something, but it shows up on all backgrounds apart from Black. I guess we'll see what happens once I return it.
Are you thinking of buying another one with the refunded money? I can't wait to get my hands on a perfect one, it was just buttery smooth and such a pleasure to use. It's got such a premium feel to it, gives the iPad a run for it's money.
Dead pixels don't necessarily mean black.
It could mean, its RGB toggles are out of whack, and end up lighting up fully, causing full bright white.
If that's the case, you have grounds for a refund / exchange. Under UK's Distance Selling Regulations, which is now changed to Consumer Contracts Regulations, you are able to return it within 7 WORKING days (essentially, could last from a Friday to the Tuesday, 11 days later) of receiving your goods.
If Google gives you this dead pixel policy BS, then UK law will override it. If however you're over the 7 day period, it gets a little tricky, but you're still protected from the Sale of Goods Act 1979, which states that sellers must provide replacements, or refunds on defective products.
And a dead pixel is a clear defect, for you, for me, for the judge, and jury.
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Ah, guess you got quite lucky. The first time there seemed to be an absolute doughnut on the other end of the phone. He couldn't comprehend what a dead pixel was, got me send him a photo and then replies saying they can't replace it.
I had a bit more luck the second time round, my plan was to just straight up return it and just buy a new one with the refunded money. The woman asked why I wanted to return it, I explained the situation and she said she can arrange a replacement for me right now. The only thing I'm worried about is whether it's a dead pixel or not. Aren't dead pixels normally black? This is like really white, it might be a scratch on the inner surface of the screen or something, but it shows up on all backgrounds apart from Black. I guess we'll see what happens once I return it.
Are you thinking of buying another one with the refunded money? I can't wait to get my hands on a perfect one, it was just buttery smooth and such a pleasure to use. It's got such a premium feel to it, gives the iPad a run for it's money.
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I'm of the same opinion on the tablet, absolutely love it. I think I'm going to wait it out for a couple of months until they sort their QC issues out, but I'm definitely going to get another one.:good: