So I bought a SG2 a couple days ago (moving from Iphone 3gS). I'm kinda disappointed in battery life and my friend recommended installing a custom rom. I have CM9 on my Touchpad so I figured I'd give it a go on my phone too. As it is, I like the look/feel of the stock device (maybe I just don't know better) so I am thinking that using something more stable like CM7 would be more beneficial. Is there any major differences?
Cm9 is based of ICS and Cm7 of gingerbread.
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Yes, I knew that, but is it worth using a more unstable build vs CM7?
mojoe_24 said:
Yes, I knew that, but is it worth using a more unstable build vs CM7?
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Cm9 isn't unstable. I'm perfectly fine on it.
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CM9 is real stable for nightly status
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In my opinion, CM9 is more stable than CM7 ever was on I9100/I777.
There's a variety of reasons for this, it's mainly that 6 months later, everyone involved knows MUCH more about the device than they did when ICS was first released and most of the CM maintainers either took breaks or started working CM9.
This especially holds true for I777 - When atinm took a break and codeworkx started working ICS, we didn't know a fraction of what the REAL differences between I9100 and I777 were that we do now. As a result the I9100/I777 device trees are MUCH closer together now than they were for CM7.
Just guessing, but I think CM9 will end up being better overall. Each version of Android brings unique challenges for the devs. For instance, CM7 on our device suffers from a Market bug that will cause periodic freezes. I don't think anyone is reporting that with CM9.
On my old phone, under CM6, they had a hell of a time getting the OS to read the voicemail number from the SIM card. When Gingerbread came out, it was never a problem from the beginning.
If battery life is your main concern, I recommend Entropy512's Daily Driver kernel. (Samsung-based ROMs only). He's working on one for ICS but his GB kernel has been used by thousands across what I guess to be dozens of ROMs.
EDIT: ^^The man himself^^
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CM9 is real stable for nightly status
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Never had a single problem with it so far. CM7 would only last 30 mins on my phone before I had to uninstall it due to stuff not working or crashing.
No clue what matters to you, but here are some specific differences as of April 9:
CM9 does not have the headphone volume bug that CM7 did, BUT...
...on CM9 the correct volume does not get restored after playback is interrupted by a notification
CM9 does not support notification LEDs, BUT...
...on CM7 Notification LEDs causes a wakelock (battery drain)
CM9 does not have as many extended features as CM7 (yet)
CM9 GPS is (at least anecdotally) not as good as CM7 (for now)
CM9 overclocking/undervolting support is brand new
Edit: CM9 does not have Theming (yet)
CM9 does not support USB Mass Storage, need to use MTP (inconvenient on Linux)
CM9 will not have Phone Goggles
The biggest factors (for me):
CM9 is ICS
CM9 has developers' attention
halfsoul said:
No clue what matters to you, but here are some specific differences as of April 9:
CM9 does not have the headphone volume bug that CM7 did, BUT...
...on CM9 the correct volume does not get restored after playback is interrupted by a notification
CM9 does not support notification LEDs, BUT...
...on CM7 Notification LEDs causes a wakelock (battery drain)
CM9 does not have as many extended features as CM7 (yet)
CM9 GPS is (at least anecdotally) not as good as CM7 (for now)
CM9 overclocking/undervolting support is brand new
Edit: CM9 does not have Theming (yet)
CM9 does not support USB Mass Storage, need to use MTP (inconvenient on Linux)
CM9 will not have Phone Goggles
The biggest factors (for me):
CM9 is ICS
CM9 has developers' attention
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Brilliant explanation! Thanks! Should be linked to by the CM9 thread!
halfsoul said:
No clue what matters to you, but here are some specific differences as of April 9:
CM9 does not have the headphone volume bug that CM7 did, BUT...
...on CM9 the correct volume does not get restored after playback is interrupted by a notification
CM9 does not support notification LEDs, BUT...
...on CM7 Notification LEDs causes a wakelock (battery drain)
CM9 does not have as many extended features as CM7 (yet)
CM9 GPS is (at least anecdotally) not as good as CM7 (for now)
CM9 overclocking/undervolting support is brand new
Edit: CM9 does not have Theming (yet)
CM9 does not support USB Mass Storage, need to use MTP (inconvenient on Linux)
CM9 will not have Phone Goggles
The biggest factors (for me):
CM9 is ICS
CM9 has developers' attention
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There is an app for USB Mass Storage. I prefer using it over MTP.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=24084600&postcount=113
CM9 is based on Android 4.0 ICS and is currently in the Alpha/Nightlies status.
CM7 is based on Android 2.3 Gingerbread and is currently the Stable branch of CynaogenMod
I just figured CM7 would have been more stable. Maybe I'll look into CM9 then. I plan to root my phone today. Part of the reason I wanted CM7/9 was to get rid of bloatware, but it seems a root can do it too.
mojoe_24 said:
I just figured CM7 would have been more stable. Maybe I'll look into CM9 then. I plan to root my phone today. Part of the reason I wanted CM7/9 was to get rid of bloatware, but it seems a root can do it too.
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You know there are other options than CM, right? If you aren't one of the ridiculous TouchWiz haters (doesn't seem that way since you mentioned you like the default look of the phone) then go download and install SHOstock2 from the development forum. It's fast, stable, and just flat-out works. Easily the best of the ICS ROMs, IMO. When CM9 gets to a stable release state I'll give it a try, but the AOSP ROMs (mainly CM9 and AOKP) just aren't quite ready for prime time IMO if you look at the issues/bugs that still exist in them. Some people enjoy flashing new builds all the time and taking part in the dev process...personally I just want something that works. That's not to say that SHOstock2 is a finished ROM yet, but it's way farther along than the others. Give it a try - as someone who only recently made the leap from stock, I couldn't imagine ever going back.
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You know there are other options than CM, right? If you aren't one of the ridiculous TouchWiz haters (doesn't seem that way since you mentioned you like the default look of the phone) then go download and install SHOstock2 from the development forum. It's fast, stable, and just flat-out works. Easily the best of the ICS ROMs, IMO. When CM9 gets to a stable release state I'll give it a try, but the AOSP ROMs (mainly CM9 and AOKP) just aren't quite ready for prime time IMO if you look at the issues/bugs that still exist in them. Some people enjoy flashing new builds all the time and taking part in the dev process...personally I just want something that works. That's not to say that SHOstock2 is a finished ROM yet, but it's way farther along than the others. Give it a try - as someone who only recently made the leap from stock, I couldn't imagine ever going back.
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Ditto... I'm running ShoStock2 for the better part of two weeks and can't deny that I'm in love. Previously to that I ran UnNamed and ShoStock for GB and loved both. The best thing to do is give them a try to see what you like. Our opinion may be biased based so I suggest you give the ROM's a try so you know what you like.
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I'm actually kinda confused on what exactly Touchwiz is. If it's only the launcher than I switched to Launcher Pro, but I can't imagine it gaining that much hate if that is all it is.
mojoe_24 said:
I'm actually kinda confused on what exactly Touchwiz is. If it's only the launcher than I switched to Launcher Pro, but I can't imagine it gaining that much hate if that is all it is.
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It's built into the framework. It's not just a launcher and theme.
AOKP is pretty damn stable. The only bug is the mentioned CM9 issue with notifications lowering music volume. Also GPS is slow to lock sometimes for me. Other than that it's a great ROM. I gave ShoStock a try but just prefer the look of AOKP
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I'm actually kinda confused on what exactly Touchwiz is. If it's only the launcher than I switched to Launcher Pro, but I can't imagine it gaining that much hate if that is all it is.
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touchwiz is so much more than a launcher
its the entire UI, the phone dialer, the contacts, the lockscreen, the SMS app, nearly everything you see on your phone is a Touchwiz UI. it is an overlay over the real android lurking below.
mojoe_24 said:
I'm actually kinda confused on what exactly Touchwiz is. If it's only the launcher than I switched to Launcher Pro, but I can't imagine it gaining that much hate if that is all it is.
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TouchWiz is a launcher and is Standard for Samsung GSII. It's all about taste if you ask me. I personally enjoy using ToichWiz or Apex launher over anything else. It's really up to you to determine what you like and how you want it to function.
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Hey Everyone,
I have been running ComRom 2.1 on my Fassy. I had to get mine replaced as it was having too many hardware based issues. Now it is sadly fully stocked. I was going to go back to ComRom 2.1 but saw that CM7 is now fixed and functional. I ran CM6 on my OG Droid. I loved it on that phone.
I am just looking to hear from anyone that has ran both and what they liked or disliked about either.
I'm not looking to start a war of what's better. I'm only looking for a comparison of the two as well as which is working better for folks.
Thanks!
chisledice said:
Hey Everyone,
I have been running ComRom 2.1 on my Fassy. I had to get mine replaced as it was having too many hardware based issues. Now it is sadly fully stocked. I was going to go back to ComRom 2.1 but saw that CM7 is now fixed and functional. I ran CM6 on my OG Droid. I loved it on that phone.
I am just looking to hear from anyone that has ran both and what they liked or disliked about either.
I'm not looking to start a war of what's better. I'm only looking for a comparison of the two as well as which is working better for folks.
Thanks!
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Well cm7 is gingerbread with an unbelievable GB kernel from the nexus s. It's AOSP as well which is superior in everyway. The only thing that com rom has over cm7 is that it doesn't have the few little annoying bugs that cm7 does. AOSP is pure Google android OS with Cyanogenmod's own custom tweaks added in for performance and customization. Com rom is based on TouchWiz, which is samsung's disgraceful attempt at a codebase, was altered from the original uncut Google AOSP for the sake of financial gain by the proprietor (Samsung). Bottom line, cm7 is a monster of a rom, considered by many to be the best and the elite of all rom's. Com rom is very good in that TSM was able to make it usable. A lot of hard work was pit into it and it's the best TW rom for fascinate.....but it's still touchwiz. Cm7/miui/omfgb/omgb all the way man. Were beginning to do away with TW.
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CM7, and I too used com rom forever, but now I can't go back
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I am going with CM7 to try it out. So far it is insanely smooth and fast. I am about to try out a couple of the kernels to try to find which will work best with my phone.
Thanks for the info all!
Tried CM7 for a couple days, fast and smooth. But went back to ComRom for a couple reasons. First was the camera, the TW camera is just better. Second is video playback. I use my phone as a little TV in bed and the video player and all the other video apps I tried suck compared to the TW video on the ComRom. Another reason was the wifi\3G kept dropping and it wasn't a dealbreaker like the other two but still very annoying.
Both ROMs have their own set of pros and cons.
If you love TW and its TW based apps go for the ComRom. If you could careless about those, then CM7 hands down.
Biggest things I've noticed after switching:
- Better battery life
- Faster
- Smoother
- CM7 Customization is great
Other comments:
- CM7 doesn't really have too many themes yet since it's still fairly new.
IMO I am using CM7 and it works, BUT is no where near as functional as Com Rom.
example:
Livable bugs but they are annoying in CM7:
-No WiFi Tethering
-No in-call volume (biggest deal breaker that is making me want to switch back to Com Rom)
-Proximity sensors do not work!
I was waiting for an update but it looks like CM7 has stopped dev.
Dont get me wrong i love this phone and Thank the developers everyday for their hard work!
The only reason to go with CM7 is to be able to say you have GB on your phone otherwise stick with Com Rom.
xwhofarted said:
IMO I am using CM7 and it works, BUT is no where near as functional as Com Rom.
example:
Livable bugs but they are annoying in CM7:
-No WiFi Tethering
-No in-call volume (biggest deal breaker that is making me want to switch back to Com Rom)
-Proximity sensors do not work!
I was waiting for an update but it looks like CM7 has stopped dev.
Dont get me wrong i love this phone and Thank the developers everyday for their hard work!
The only reason to go with CM7 is to be able to say you have GB on your phone otherwise stick with Com Rom.
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Looks like the CM7 you were using is an old one. Have you tried the latest CM7?
neozen21 said:
Looks like the CM7 you were using is an old one. Have you tried the latest CM7?
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Yes i was on the build 11 with the glitch kernel [glitch kernel was super fast!]
-in call volume was not loud.
- i got an error when turning the wifi tether on
- and you have to push the volume rockers or the power button to hang up the phone.
xwhofarted said:
Yes i was on the build 11 with the glitch kernel [glitch kernel was super fast!]
-in call volume was not loud.
- i got an error when turning the wifi tether on
- and you have to push the volume rockers or the power button to hang up the phone.
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Well, build 11 isn't that old.. but yeah, the call volume is not as loud as it could be, and the screen won't turn back on once you pull the phone away from your face.. but I had no problems with WiFi tether.. my NookColor running CM7 can see and use the AP..
I just installed the 7/24 version... changelog is not out yet.. hope they fixed even more bugs..
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Other comments:
- CM7 doesn't really have too many themes yet since it's still fairly new.
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you must not be looking very hard
I've run both roms, CM7 and the latest ComRom. In everyday use, I can't tell the difference between the two. Honestly. ComRom ran super well, but twice it crashed on me and would only boot to safe mode (where I would endure force-close hell), and I would have a ***** of a time recovering it. After getting fed up with that and no longer trusting ComRom, I switched to CM7.
I haven't really seen the same bugs that other people have. I have no complaints with it on the stock kernel. On the OTB kernel, it was laggy as hell (felt like my roommate's ancient mytouch 3g). On the glitch kernel, it was suuuper smooth, but my battery life was suuuper ****.
So I'm using the stock kernel that comes with CM7. Unfortunately, I got twice the battery life on ComRom (2 days) vs what I get on CM7 (a day if I'm lucky). Of course, YMMV.
gunm3tal said:
Both ROMs have their own set of pros and cons.
If you love TW and its TW based apps go for the ComRom. If you could careless about those, then CM7 hands down.
Biggest things I've noticed after switching:
- Better battery life
- Faster
- Smoother
- CM7 Customization is great
Other comments:
- CM7 doesn't really have too many themes yet since it's still fairly new.
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CM7 has MORE themes, just look for CM7 themes /ThemeChooser Here are some
You could always try both for a few days and see how you like them.
I came straight from community rom and no contest. Cm7 is better in literally every way. I especially like the improved GPS and Bluetooth performance. The only drawback Ive seen is its a little too quiet in calls if you're in a particularly loud area. So as long as you aren't a construction worker or a traffic cop, I'd say cm7.
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About CM7 themes: try Android Themes in the Android Development and Hacking forum. You'll find more themes there than a thrift store has used shoes
About call volume - I am running miui 7/22 which has better volume (on its stock kernel) than CM7. The miui theme manager has its own built-in catalog of online themes you can download and apply. Plus, it lets you actually edit your theme, mixing and matching elements from several of your installed themes.
Another Fascinating post by my XDA app...
cool. thanks for the info on themes!
kkennedy22 said:
Cm7 is better in literally every way
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LOL i don't think you meant to use the word Literally.
The sensor doesn't wake the phone when you pull it away from your face! that is literally not better than ANY Froyo ROM or even the sd card eating EC09!
I admit the glitch kernel made it run super smooth, but if you put com rom next to cm7, other than a few skins you really cant tell the two apart.
Like i said the ONLY reason to have CM7 on your phone is to boast you have Gingerbread!
If you disagree that is fine, this is my opinion but i am getting tired of people pumping up CM7, saying it is "hands down the best" when simply it is lacking. It is functional yes but it is maybe 98% functional to any Froyo roms 100% functionality.
I will be very excited to see when CM7 is great, the only thing is all the GREAT devs Left for other phones and i doubt we will see a fantastic GB rom like we did with ComRom's and EF.
Please if you disagree i would love to hear what makes CM7 better than Froyo roms. I would love to hear why everyone is so amped on CM7, I have tried both.
Once again this is only my opinion. PS I LOVE THIS PHONE!
Reasons to try CM7:
1. Continuing support / updates - the community and the Evil Fascination ROMs are probably the last you'll see of touchwiz-based ROMs, as most of our developers have moved on to the Droid Charge or the Incredible 2. CM7, on the other hand, will soon get nightly builds and support from the cyanogenmod team (thanks for all your hard work to get CM7 developed for the Fascinate jt1134!)
2. Themes - easier to apply, greater selection, many of them just done in more detail than those on touchwiz-based on ROMs.
3. Netflix only works on GB.
Reasons Not to Try CM7:
1. In-call audio.
2. In-call audio.
3. In-call audio. Are you seeing a trend here?
Reasons to try MIUI:
1. Miui will also get ongoing support and new releases from andmer (thanks andmer and jt)
2. Themes are even easier to apply than on CM7.
3. In-call audio is a little better than CM7 at this point.
Reasons Not to Try MIUI:
1. In-call audio is still not as good as touchwiz-based ROMs.
2. The look and feel of MIUI is not for everyone.
Bottom Line: it's whatever you want to choose
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Bottom Line: it's whatever you want to choose
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I agree 100% try them both and decide for your self
it is all a matter of opinion.
skynet11 said:
Reasons to try CM7:
1. Continuing support / updates - the community and the Evil Fascination ROMs are probably the last you'll see of touchwiz-based ROMs, as most of our developers have moved on to the Droid Charge or the Incredible 2. CM7, on the other hand, will soon get nightly builds and support from the cyanogenmod team (thanks for all your hard work to get CM7 developed for the Fascinate jt1134!)
2. Themes - easier to apply, greater selection, many of them just done in more detail than those on touchwiz-based on ROMs.
3. Netflix only works on GB.
Reasons Not to Try CM7:
1. In-call audio.
2. In-call audio.
3. In-call audio. Are you seeing a trend here?
Reasons to try MIUI:
1. Miui will also get ongoing support and new releases from andmer (thanks andmer and jt)
2. Themes are even easier to apply than on CM7.
3. In-call audio is a little better than CM7 at this point.
Reasons Not to Try MIUI:
1. In-call audio is still not as good as touchwiz-based ROMs.
2. The look and feel of MIUI is not for everyone.
Bottom Line: it's whatever you want to choose
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Actually netflix does work on stock fascinates now.
I really liked cm7 because of it's speed, but that was really it.
Cm7 uses a crappy dialer
Cm7 uses a crappy calendar app
Cm7 doesn't have fully functional proximity sensors
flash only works on the camera not as a flashlight
Camera app is not as good on cm7
Bottom line: I could live with everything but in call audio and proximity sensors. As soon as netflix started working on fascinates I switched back to comm rom 2.1
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Can someone tell me a few differences between unnamed and cm7? I've scoured the Web and narrowed it down between these two mods. I'm looking for features and good battery life. I webbrowse and listen do music a lot.
I'm Hoping there are people who have used both
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crewxp said:
Can someone tell me a few differences between unnamed and cm7? I've scoured the Web and narrowed it down between these two mods. I'm looking for features and good battery life. I webbrowse and listen do music a lot.
I'm Hoping there are people who have used both
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I have used and extensivly tested both of them, if you want the
full features of your camera to remain intact you should select
the UnNamed 1.0.4 rom. CM7 lacks many of the features in the
camera part of the phone and it does not give you the full 30fps
framerates while recording videos as well as other issues.
Not only that, but the cosmetic appearance of the camera's lcd screen looks
like some cheapy camera phone and lacks many of the options which are found
in all the stock and custom roms except in CM7.
Hope this helps.
CM7 is good, but still has some rough edges.. I would suggest unnamed as your option being a new Android user. unnamed is based on the stock ROM and enhances on the stock rom. So basically everything works out of the box as it was intended to be
Okay thanks guys! Exactly what I needed. I thought since CNET was bigger, it would be better. good thing I asked!
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As stated above there are a lot of difference between the two roms you mentioned above. I would say try them all out as it is very easy. Get a rom working THE WAY YOU LIKE IT, then make a nandroid backup, try out another rom and set it up the way you like it and then make a nandroid backup. Then you can easily go between roms or stick with what you like best. As far as CM7 goes (I have been using CM7 since my captivate) and have found I like it the best. Due to integrated modifications and such it has everything working great. I do see that the camera works well but is not the same as the stock camera as far as settings and the CM7 camcorder (haven't noticed any issues personally) framerates not working as good as stock/stock based roms, and speed dial is not built in. Those are the ONLY things that can use some work in my humble opinion. But if your like me and want to customize easier, switch to different themes on the fly without any problems other than opening up the built in theme Chooser app. For stock roms I always had to wait for the theme developer to update his theme between rom updates due to framework changes, sometimes this would be the same day to a few days in between. Just trying to share some of the benefits CM7 may have. I have also tried different roms as UnNamed rom and they do work really well, the speed and fluidity of the stock based roms is as good as CM7 right now (wasn't the case on my captivate as CM7 worked smoother and faster than stock based roms). Plus CM7 will PROBABLY have ICS working before it is working on the stock roms. There are many things to look at and try out, so that is why I recommend trying them all out and find what you like.
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Simply put, do you want it to be smooth or not? UnNamed is liquid butter smooth for me, cm wasn't. I have a very picky eye for this kind of thing being a pc gamer
tried both... Preferring CM7 at this point...
Although it's nice that the Stock-based firmwares (unNamed) work 100%, I know that development for CM7 is not far behind, and will soon surpass anything stock-based can offer.
The only real upside to unNamed over CM7 at the moment is the fully working Wifi Hotspot feature. (Which will of course be fixed soon in CM7) as well as the MHL (USB to HDMI adapter)...
Again... Both are good roms. But if you want to get on the Ice-cream truck sooner; go with CM. If you want things working %100 without a lot of trouble... Go with unNamed.
monsieurtalbot said:
tried both... Preferring CM7 at this point...
Although it's nice that the Stock-based firmwares (unNamed) work 100%, I know that development for CM7 is not far behind, and will soon surpass anything stock-based can offer.
The only real upside to unNamed over CM7 at the moment is the fully working Wifi Hotspot feature. (Which will of course be fixed soon in CM7) as well as the MHL (USB to HDMI adapter)...
Again... Both are good roms. But if you want to get on the Ice-cream truck sooner; go with CM. If you want things working %100 without a lot of trouble... Go with unNamed.
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I like CM7 as well however the Camera is one of the main feats of the phone, and if there was a good alternative whether 3rd party or not i would keep CM7 (its still on a NAND backup) but there isnt. Not even the MIUI Camera works (which is kinda nice). Also, the MHL out doesn't work as you mentioned, and battery life is fairly close to one another.
I personally bounce back between serendipity and Cm7, However IF there was a way to run a i9100 rom on our phones, then i would run gingerMOD all the way.
I have Eclipse 1.1 (old I know) it was great when it first came out and I flashed it. But now I need something new bc its not working as good, and I know theres better versions and other ROMs that are possibly better.
Any suggestions on which ROM to flash and why?
Depends on what you want. If you want a fully functional ROM I'd check out the latest edition of Eclipse.
Cyanogenmod 7.2 rc1 has a small amount of bugs, but is for the most part fully functional. HDMI mirroring doesn't work and that's the one and only downside to me. I still use CM7 as a "daily driver" so to speak. Lots of customization and with the hacks/mods found in this forum I get excellent signal strength, connection speeds and battery life. Wifi still sleeps when the screen's off, but with the v3 build.prop mashup it reconnects on waking within seconds every single time.
Cyanogenmod 9 alpha 3 is somewhat buggy as it's in its early alpha stages. There's no camera yet, but DZK already said there will be a fix for alpha 4. Same with aces miui. It's real slick, being on ics. I like it, but won't stay until there's a working camera and more stability. When that happens this rom will be simply amazing. Overall it's pretty sweet and at the very least, worth checking out/playing around with.....
MIUI4 will be awesome too once the bugs are sorted and fixed. As stated before- the next release will also have a working camera. MIUI is probably one of my favorites if not my favorite but right now its way too buggy for me to use. More so than cm9. Couldn't deal with the bugs Ace is hard at work bringing us more updates and when he finally gets this where he wants it MIUI will more than likely replace cm7 as my daily rom. It's a great ROM in general but I couldn't stay on miui for more than like an hour, personally.
Definitely go into each roms topic and check out the screenshots and videos if there are any. Also look for the working features and known bugs/issues. Honestly I say give them ALL a try and see what best suits you. I only really posted about the newer ones. If I remember correctly molten isn't being updated anymore after 2.3 and I keep forgetting liberty even exists, lol.......
Cyanogenmod all day
I started with Eclipse 1.3 and then went to 2.1 running scripts and about everything else with it. Then when CM9 alpha came out, I had to try it. CM9 alpha works great for me. I needed my camera, so I flashed back to CM7. When the beta version of CM9 rolls around, that's gonna be the ticket!
IMHO- CM7
I can't believe how smooth and FAST my phone is with CM7. The camera works great, very little to no lag at all with anything I have found. There's all kinds of customizations for it. I'm not running any scripts, only CM7 and SD Increase from the market. My phone is fun again and I'm not hesitant to show somebody up with a whyphone like I was before. Try it and see.
Also check out this thread for sure!!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=26801347
Cyanogenmod all day
Are you pretty good with computers, tech, etc.? If you want a fast update, just flash CM7 since it is on the same kernel as the version of Eclipse you are on. If you try to update to the latest Eclipse, you have to go through the process of using the SBF to get to stock, updating to 2.3.5 then flash the new version. Its up to you though. CM7 and Eclipse are the most stable ROMs we have at the moment until some bugs get worked out in CM9.
Thanks everyone. I am on Eclipse 2.2.1 as of right now (w/speedy script 7 and other tweaks/apps). Ill probably try CM7 in the future since its already on my sdcard.
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Thanks everyone. I am on Eclipse 2.2.1 as of right now (w/speedy script 7 and other tweaks/apps). Ill probably try CM7 in the future since its already on my sdcard.
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Just remember you need to be on 2.3.4 before flashing CM7.
Man I don't know what it is but.....
I used to run Eclipse 2.1 and scripted to the 23498457890345th power maxed out turnaround wing dinger squared. I thought it was as good as it could get. But when I went to CM7, I giggled at what I "thought" I had. Hands down the way to go, until CM9
I would use cm7. Just because its stable and has the best UI in my option and has pretty good performance. or you could wait for cm9 to get more stable with a working camera and better performance.
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I went with Eclipse 2.2.1 - because the HDMI support was kind of a deal breaker for me. (Netflix, FPSE, SnesEX, etc. on a big screen!) But I was wondering why none of you mentioned Liberty 3? I haven't tried anything other than Eclipse 2.2.1 so I don't have an educated opinion to share, but other than CM7 it seemed like Liberty 3 and Eclipse were the two other "stable" ROMs in the DEV section.
Is Liberty "bad" or do you guys just not use it, and why?
Also, I flashed what I *thought* was the latest build of Eclipse 2.2.1 (from the official thread) but there are only 5 pull down toggles on my notification panel - I thought there were supposed to be 7? Did I miss something?
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Just Rooted and Flashed for the first time.
I went with Eclipse 2.2.1 - because the HDMI support was kind of a deal breaker for me. (Netflix, FPSE, SnesEX, etc. on a big screen!) But I was wondering why none of you mentioned Liberty 3? I haven't tried anything other than Eclipse 2.2.1 so I don't have an educated opinion to share, but other than CM7 it seemed like Liberty 3 and Eclipse were the two other "stable" ROMs in the DEV section.
Is Liberty "bad" or do you guys just not use it, and why?
Also, I flashed what I *thought* was the latest build of Eclipse 2.2.1 (from the official thread) but there are only 5 pull down toggles on my notification panel - I thought there were supposed to be 7? Did I miss something?
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I haven't been on eclipse in a while so I'm not sure if I'm remembering correctly, but I thought there was an option in settings to set those.
I can't say for sure why nobody mentioned liberty though, it might be because it doesn't offer much compared to eclipse. Also, it was supported for maybe 2 months max while I'm pretty sure nitro is still pushing out updates for the x2(somebody correct me if I'm wrong).
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Depends on what you want. If you want a fully functional ROM I'd check out the latest edition of Eclipse.
Cyanogenmod 7.2 rc1 has a small amount of bugs, but is for the most part fully functional. HDMI mirroring doesn't work and that's the one and only downside to me. I still use CM7 as a "daily driver" so to speak. Lots of customization and with the hacks/mods found in this forum I get excellent signal strength, connection speeds and battery life. Wifi still sleeps when the screen's off, but with the v3 build.prop mashup it reconnects on waking within seconds every single time.
Cyanogenmod 9 alpha 3 is somewhat buggy as it's in its early alpha stages. There's no camera yet, but DZK already said there will be a fix for alpha 4. Same with aces miui. It's real slick, being on ics. I like it, but won't stay until there's a working camera and more stability. When that happens this rom will be simply amazing. Overall it's pretty sweet and at the very least, worth checking out/playing around with.....
MIUI4 will be awesome too once the bugs are sorted and fixed. As stated before- the next release will also have a working camera. MIUI is probably one of my favorites if not my favorite but right now its way too buggy for me to use. More so than cm9. Couldn't deal with the bugs Ace is hard at work bringing us more updates and when he finally gets this where he wants it MIUI will more than likely replace cm7 as my daily rom. It's a great ROM in general but I couldn't stay on miui for more than like an hour, personally.
Definitely go into each roms topic and check out the screenshots and videos if there are any. Also look for the working features and known bugs/issues. Honestly I say give them ALL a try and see what best suits you. I only really posted about the newer ones. If I remember correctly molten isn't being updated anymore after 2.3 and I keep forgetting liberty even exists, lol.......
Cyanogenmod all day
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I totally agree with this guy. It all depends on what you want out of your phone. If you can sacrifice the extra cool doohickies I say CM9 all the way cause alpha 4 just came out and it's pretty sweet, working camera too.
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Also, I flashed what I *thought* was the latest build of Eclipse 2.2.1 (from the official thread) but there are only 5 pull down toggles on my notification panel - I thought there were supposed to be 7? Did I miss something?
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The toggles are scrollable. You have to scroll to the right to see the rest.
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I loved cm7 as my first and only rom but my 3g sucks,dolphin force closes, camera is buggy etc I'm going to reflash before jumping to eclipse which I've heard is most stable ...
I loved cm7 but the broken orientation sensor in the kernel killed it for me. I now run eclipse 2.2.1. It was a bugger to get installed. Having to wipe cache at a different point than instructions indicate. And also I have a little touch-screen delay.
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I was wondering if anyone could help me. I recently upgraded to a nexus and at that same time a friend of mine broke her phone, so I gave her my fascinate with AOKP M6 on it...but she's getting sick of the bugs. Since I really have no way of testing I was hoping someone could help me make the decision of putting either a TW ROM or the latest CM 10 nightly on the fascinate.
I've been keeping an eye of the CyanogenMod gerrit and it looks like Jt1134 has made some serious headway, but can anyone give me their educated opinion? (I'm already running the nightlies on my nexus so I'm more interested in device specific bugs)
Thanks if you can help, I just have no way to test and I don't want to piss off a bug intolerant girl. ^-^
CM10 nightly is my suggestion... personally I've never had any real issues with it. The Devil Kernel 1.6.1 has been working great, but sticking with the stock kernel could be good for future releases. I much prefer using Devil because of the performance tweaks, but your friend probably won't care.
The TW rom will give rock solid stability too, but honestly... CM10 is so fast and smooth I can't see why anyone would bother with a GB rom anymore... especially since CM10 is practically bug free.
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CM10 nightly is my suggestion... personally I've never had any real issues with it. The Devil Kernel 1.6.1 has been working great, but sticking with the stock kernel could be good for future releases. I much prefer using Devil because of the performance tweaks, but your friend probably won't care.
The TW rom will give rock solid stability too, but honestly... CM10 is so fast and smooth I can't see why anyone would bother with a GB rom anymore... especially since CM10 is practically bug free.
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Thanks for the suggestion, yeah CM 10 looks like a very good option at the moment because of the now built in updater.
I also just remembered she was asking about the colors being washed out compared to stock, does the default CM 10 kernel come with anything to enhance that or would I need to flash devil kernel with Voodoo color? (She made it seem like a bit of a big deal so I promised I'd look into it)
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Thanks for the suggestion, yeah CM 10 looks like a very good option at the moment because of the now built in updater.
I also just remembered she was asking about the colors being washed out compared to stock, does the default CM 10 kernel come with anything to enhance that or would I need to flash devil kernel with Voodoo color? (She made it seem like a bit of a big deal so I promised I'd look into it)
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Hmm that's a good question. I've never really messed with tweaking the colors to be honest, and I've always used the CMC (Cyanogenmod Color) version of Devil because the VC one gives me a weird negative image flash when coming out of sleep mode. I'm sure there are some apps that will adjust color that she could get from the market, no matter which kernel it is. I think I even remember looking for the app that adjusts Voodoo Color and couldn't for the life of me find it. Sorry I can't be more help, the colors were always vibrant enough for me so I never really cared to adjust them
edit: Well I did find some basic color calibration settings under System Settings > Device > Advanced > Color Tuning. Not sure if it's going to be what she's looking for, but it seems to be a built in feature for the rom itself, and separate from the kernel options. The devil config manager I'm using doesn't have any color tuning options at all.
The app you were looking for was probably Voodoo Sound, a color calibration option becomes available in it if you're on a VC enabled kernel. It doesn't really matter though, it looks like I'll be flashing Devil kernel anyway as I just read some reports of "screen jumpiness" on the stock kernel in the devil kernel thread.
I'm not really sure what that means but I'd rather just avoid it entirely.
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The app you were looking for was probably Voodoo Sound, a color calibration option becomes available in it if you're on a VC enabled kernel. It doesn't really matter though, it looks like I'll be flashing Devil kernel anyway as I just read some reports of "screen jumpiness" on the stock kernel in the devil kernel thread.
I'm not really sure what that means but I'd rather just avoid it entirely.
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Those issues are almost always from someone who 'dirty flashed' instead of doing a proper data wipe and clean install. I've run on the stock kernel many times never experiencing those issues. That said, I still prefer the Devil kernel but I can see a couple of problems with her using that... 1) If a newer Devil Kernel is released, will she know enough to flash it? 2) If CM10 gets another partition change, or something that will break Devil, and she updates it could cause a boot loop, and 3) If she's not into customs roms as much as you she might go into devil settings and cause a lot of trouble if she's 'unhappy' with the performance. Food for thought
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Those issues are almost always from someone who 'dirty flashed' instead of doing a proper data wipe and clean install. I've run on the stock kernel many times never experiencing those issues. That said, I still prefer the Devil kernel but I can see a couple of problems with her using that... 1) If a newer Devil Kernel is released, will she know enough to flash it? 2) If CM10 gets another partition change, or something that will break Devil, and she updates it could cause a boot loop, and 3) If she's not into customs roms as much as you she might go into devil settings and cause a lot of trouble if she's 'unhappy' with the performance. Food for thought
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Good points, I think I'll start her on stock kernel for a few days and go from there if she needs better performance/color control. Anyway, It's good to know the fascinate community is still awesome!
Thanks for your help.
I am curious to what bugs she has been having. I have been using AOKP since ICS build 28 with very few bugs if any throughout all the builds. I have been very pleased even with stock kernel as to how fast and responsive it is. I know CM to be good as well but prefer the cherry picks Steve spear has built into some of his releases
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I am curious to what bugs she has been having. I have been using AOKP since ICS build 28 with very few bugs if any throughout all the builds. I have been very pleased even with stock kernel as to how fast and responsive it is. I know CM to be good as well but prefer the cherry picks Steve spear has built into some of his releases
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Apparently the browser randomly stops loading web pages and has to be force killed, MMS don't always come through, and...there were a couple more but I can't remember them at all.
I was really rushed when I flashed her phone and I'm pretty sure some of the stuff I put on there was in mid-development. (the kernel)
I have not had any problems with any web pages. MS6 for ICS should be stable although I am using the showcase on cspire network. Unfortunately I do not have picture/ MMS messaging to speak to that, but I know it has been a problem on several releases due to not wiping before flashing
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I agree that MS6 should have been a lot more stable, but my recommendation stands... go with CM10, it's just plain better
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Hmm that's a good question. I've never really messed with tweaking the colors to be honest, and I've always used the CMC (Cyanogenmod Color) version of Devil because the VC one gives me a weird negative image flash when coming out of sleep mode. I'm sure there are some apps that will adjust color that she could get from the market, no matter which kernel it is. I think I even remember looking for the app that adjusts Voodoo Color and couldn't for the life of me find it. Sorry I can't be more help, the colors were always vibrant enough for me so I never really cared to adjust them
edit: Well I did find some basic color calibration settings under System Settings > Device > Advanced > Color Tuning. Not sure if it's going to be what she's looking for, but it seems to be a built in feature for the rom itself, and separate from the kernel options. The devil config manager I'm using doesn't have any color tuning options at all.
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i agree with this, for the colors i go there to the color tuning, just make sure you use a CMC kernel and not voodoo color. anyways my settings are 1.0 for red and blue, and .887 for green with all the gammas at -40. it looks amazing, vivid and sharp and not over saturated.
Wow that does look pretty good, did you just figure this out yourself or are there guides on how to calibrate?
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Wow that does look pretty good, did you just figure this out yourself or are there guides on how to calibrate?
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i was just messing around with the colors in there and kept working down the gamma since im a sucker for vivid and non washed out colors lol, i ended up with them all the way negative but found out it had a tad of a green tone so i just moved the green slider back to where it looked about right. it is no one way calibrated or anything, just the best i could make make it look to my eyes.
If your friend really just wants a stable ROM, AOKP M6 should be their best bet. Likely the issue is that the phone has been upgraded many times; the best way to ensure a clean install of AOKP is to flash to stock in Odin then flash other things progressively to get to ICS. This post provides a great overview of the process.
exzacklyright.blogspot .com/2012/01/how-to-flash-ics-on-verizon-samsung.html
If your follow those steps for your friend, the issues with the browser should disappear. The end result? A bug free rom that makes everyone happy. I personally wouldn't suggest upgrading to CM10 unless your friend really just wants to upgrade their phone periodically.
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If your friend really just wants a stable ROM, AOKP M6 should be their best bet. Likely the issue is that the phone has been upgraded many times; the best way to ensure a clean install of AOKP is to flash to stock in Odin then flash other things progressively to get to ICS. This post provides a great overview of the process.
exzacklyright.blogspot .com/2012/01/how-to-flash-ics-on-verizon-samsung.html
If your follow those steps for your friend, the issues with the browser should disappear. The end result? A bug free rom that makes everyone happy. I personally wouldn't suggest upgrading to CM10 unless your friend really just wants to upgrade their phone periodically.
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I appreciate the response, sadly those are pretty much the exact steps I took to flash the fascinate before I gave it to her. I really don't know what's up with it, but why do you suggest staying on ICS?
I'm running the CM10 nightlies on my gnexus and the only real bug I have is ringtones reset to the default within the first day after flashing, after that it's pretty flawless. Are there some other bugs on the fascinate that I should be aware of?
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I appreciate the response, sadly those are pretty much the exact steps I took to flash the fascinate before I gave it to her. I really don't know what's up with it, but why do you suggest staying on ICS?
I'm running the CM10 nightlies on my gnexus and the only real bug I have is ringtones reset to the default within the first day after flashing, after that it's pretty flawless. Are there some other bugs on the fascinate that I should be aware of?
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That's too bad... I'm very surprised that there are still issues!
I'm pretty sure the fascinate isn't on the officially supported device list for CM10, which means that more bugs could be present, but honestly I'm not terribly familiar with that ROM. For me personally, I think ICS might be better since the voice search is much faster and there's more storage space or apps, but that's just me.
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That's too bad... I'm very surprised that there are still issues!
I'm pretty sure the fascinate isn't on the officially supported device list for CM10, which means that more bugs could be present, but honestly I'm not terribly familiar with that ROM. For me personally, I think ICS might be better since the voice search is much faster and there's more storage space or apps, but that's just me.
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The fascinate has been receiving official nightly cm10 builds for over a month, and due to recent partition layout changes, there is more storage space available than even a stock ROM.
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As much as I loved AOKP ICS M6, CM10 just blows it away. It's the best JB rom I've ever run, and with Devil 1.6.1 it's a beast :good:
are there any pics of cm10 anywhere and does the camera and camcorder work? Gapps seperate?
Hey guys my dad just got a Fascinate for his work phone and it's currently running Android version 2.3.5.. When I checked for a software update it said that was the newest version. Really? It never got ICS at least?
Now if this were my phone I would root it immediately and flash something newer onto it but it's my dad's, and he honestly does not need that many cool features and all that. Still, if the process was simple and the features were worth it, then I would be glad to do it for him.
I've been looking through the Fascinate forums and it doesn't look like any promising Jelly Bean ROMs are out. Maybe I am mistaken?
What is the most stable ROM you can recommend me that is relatively "new" as far as Android goes, as this Fascinate is still 2.3.5. I would just like something relatively new that is still being developed/updated, and is stable as it's my dad's phone and I can't constantly be babysitting it and fixing any issues.
Thanks guys (I have a feeling CM10 or so is the ROM I am looking for, as 10.1 doesn't seem to be up, but just let me know what is your opinion.)
Unfortunately yes, after the 2.3.5 update the Fascinate was completely left out in the cold and never got any further official updates. Lucky for us though, we have some extremely talented developers that have done far better than any crap Verizon might have pushed out on us.
You are certainly mistaken about the Jelly Bean Roms, there are a few really good options. Personally I'm running AOKP Milestone 1 (4.1.2) with Devil kernel and that's been my daily driver for a while now. CM10 would probably be your best bet for a 'stable' rom, although nothing is broken on AOKP too, so it's more a personal preference. The biggest issues that I see on here are related to phone calls (speakerphone, ringtone not playing, etc) so if he's to be on the phone a lot then you should probably skip JB honestly. This isn't to say there are workarounds and fixes but as you said, you don't want to be consistently fixing it, so...
Anyway, if it's his work phone and he values stability above all else and doesn't care about bells and whistles then perhaps staying with a good Gingerbread rom would actually be the best way to go.... Superclean and TSM Resurrection come to mind.
Search for JT's cm10.1 (Android v4.2.1) for fascinatemtd over on rootzwiki. I've been running this as my daily driver for the past month or two. It hasn't been updated for a couple weeks, probably because nothing is broken (nothing that I can find...)
My wife has a fascinate that I have running the cm10 nightlies (android jb 4.1). I'm in a similar situation as you in that my family member primarily needs a reliable phone, they won't really appreciate how cool it is that they're running the latest version of android, and I'll need to help out if anything doesn't work...
I haven't updated her phone for a month or two, but when I do it's a simple matter to update it via cmupdater. Very slick.
The safest option would probably be the gingerbread-based GeeWiz 2.9. The dev is awesome and has recently updated the build just to make it neat and tidy.
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Search for JT's cm10.1 (Android v4.2.1) for fascinatemtd over on rootzwiki. I've been running this as my daily driver for the past month or two. It hasn't been updated for a couple weeks, probably because nothing is broken (nothing that I can find...)
My wife has a fascinate that I have running the cm10 nightlies (android jb 4.1). I'm in a similar situation as you in that my family member primarily needs a reliable phone, they won't really appreciate how cool it is that they're running the latest version of android, and I'll need to help out if anything doesn't work...
I haven't updated her phone for a month or two, but when I do it's a simple matter to update it via cmupdater. Very slick.
The safest option would probably be the gingerbread-based GeeWiz 2.9. The dev is awesome and has recently updated the build just to make it neat and tidy.
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Ah yeah I forgot about geewiz. Another amazingly talented dev we're lucky enough to have, and better yet extremely active on these forums still. Do you have the link to the 2.9 thread? I can only find the 3.3.3 thread (JB) for some reason.
I personally don't like the changes in 4.2 over 4.1 so I went back to 4.1.2 for the time being. It's only little things like the notifications and lock screen, but for some reason I like the layout of 4.1 better... but that's just me. I have yet to try CM10.1 though so I may just give that a go in the future to see how it is.
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Ah yeah I forgot about geewiz. Another amazingly talented dev we're lucky enough to have, and better yet extremely active on these forums still. Do you have the link to the 2.9 thread? I can only find the 3.3.3 thread (JB) for some reason.
I personally don't like the changes in 4.2 over 4.1 so I went back to 4.1.2 for the time being. It's only little things like the notifications and lock screen, but for some reason I like the layout of 4.1 better... but that's just me. I have yet to try CM10.1 though so I may just give that a go in the future to see how it is.
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Here's the link to the GeeWiz 2.9 thread. I point out GeeWiz 2.9 since it's the closest to what Verizon last delivered as "stock" (Gingerbread) for the fascinate that has also received recent support/attention. Back in the day, I was partial to the final SuperClean3 Milestone 2 release (albeit for some esoteric reasons around the illumination behavior of the hardware keys that I believe have since been addressed in GeeWiz).
On the CM10 vs. CM10.1 question, I've had the (purely subjective) impression that latter is a bit faster...
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Here's the link to the GeeWiz 2.9 thread. I point out GeeWiz 2.9 since it's the closest to what Verizon last delivered as "stock" (Gingerbread) for the fascinate that has also received recent support/attention. Back in the day, I was partial to the final SuperClean3 Milestone 2 release (albeit for some esoteric reasons around the illumination behavior of the hardware keys that I believe have since been addressed in GeeWiz).
On the CM10 vs. CM10.1 question, I've had the (purely subjective) impression that latter is a bit faster...
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I also think that 4.2 was a little snappier, although I didn't do any actual testing to verify that. I just get annoyed really easy by the little things that I don't like, like the new notifications, and I think for now I'll deal with 4.1 because it's still plenty fast for my needs (using SmartassV2 and Zen seems to help a lot). Hopefully in the future CM or AOKP will add some features to make 4.2 feel like 4.1 (kinda like how there was some older ICS options in the JB AOKP).
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I also think that 4.2 was a little snappier, although I didn't do any actual testing to verify that. I just get annoyed really easy by the little things that I don't like, like the new notifications, and I think for now I'll deal with 4.1 because it's still plenty fast for my needs (using SmartassV2 and Zen seems to help a lot). Hopefully in the future CM or AOKP will add some features to make 4.2 feel like 4.1 (kinda like how there was some older ICS options in the JB AOKP).
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sorry for off-topic, but what is your cpu OCd to if OCd at all
I've been running 200MHz min / 1200MHz max and screen off 200MHz min / 800MHz max (normal OC, not LiveOC). Battery life has been pretty good with it and it seems to be less sluggish vs stock. I also undervolt quite heavily too, you can check my thread I made about it in General a while back for my settings. I'm certainly not one of those people who want to squeeze every last drop of performance from their phones because I personally value battery life above performance, but I certainly don't want a sluggish phone either so I've tried to find a good balance
Alright guys thanks a lot for the suggestions I saw several of these myself and did the reading it was just hard to decipher it all considering I was new to the Fascinate
I've tried most of the jb ROMs for fascinate and settled for baked black bean v6 with devil kernel 1.9.5. Runs great but been having issues with MMS.
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Same here bbb6 with devil 1.9.5. But to fix my issues with MMS I just move to using "go SMS" with custom MMS setting and removed the stock app.
Side note: I do find "go SMS" to be horrible app along with the dev team. I mean yes the app works and yes I use it. But only because I have too. The is always nagging me to go try another theme, to get there launcher, or its sending me fake chat messages about how I should there go chat feature. I mean I have a list of things I dislike about it. But again it does get the job done....
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So what doesn't work about your guys MMS,,, and are you Verizon or someone else
Mine has always worked fine,,, I'm page plus through Verizon
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Power washed is a good 2.3 rom
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I'm using revol wireless. And I can get MMS to work. But it's way slower sending through the stock app then when I send through go SMS. Plus go allows me to rotate my PICs before I send them.
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