Nokia is going to release a new high quality app : Nokia Usage Monitor
This app will help Nokia users to keep an eye on their DATA traffic, it's really useful for people who don't have unlimited DATA plans.
This kind of app is rare on the Marketplace (actually I think it's the only one) so I guess this app have some kind of "high privilege" access to the system.
I'll upload the app here when it will be released for every dev. or people who would like to try performing the interop unlock thru this app.
I don't think that it will expose some vulnerabilities. All I can think of is that this app reads some System files, maybe even the registry. However injecting into the app is impossobile because it will invalidate the signature. Nevertheless this App is quite usefull even without enabling interop unlock
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I don't think that it will expose some vulnerabilities. All I can think of is that this app reads some System files, maybe even the registry. However injecting into the app is impossobile because it will invalidate the signature. Nevertheless this App is quite usefull even without enabling interop unlock
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I agree, Nokia apps are great, they respect Metro UI, and are a real plus for users like us.
This app needs much more priviliges than regular devs can get. That's why there are no such apps in the Marketplace and Nokia has to make them. I'm even doubting whether OEM access is enough. I think Nokia has more access than other OEMs and that's why HTC, Samsung didn't make something like this already...
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This app needs much more priviliges than regular devs can get. That's why there are no such apps in the Marketplace and Nokia has to make them. I'm even doubting whether OEM access is enough. I think Nokia has more access than other OEMs and that's why HTC, Samsung didn't make something like this already...
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Samsung have their call blocker for Omnia W. That was a greap app!
_Madmatt said:
This app needs much more priviliges than regular devs can get. That's why there are no such apps in the Marketplace and Nokia has to make them. I'm even doubting whether OEM access is enough. I think Nokia has more access than other OEMs and that's why HTC, Samsung didn't make something like this already...
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If we can inject some settings or config files into this app than there is still the question whether or not it will allow write access on the registry, most probably this app will only allow read access (if we can even inject a config file to do a custom operation). All other apps so far did not allow registry write access besides the diagnosis app.
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If we can inject some settings or config files into this app than there is still the question whether or not it will allow write access on the registry, most probably this app will only allow read access (if we can even inject a config file to do a custom operation). All other apps so far did not allow registry write access besides the diagnosis app.
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It seems logic we should concentrate on diagnostics app then?
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It seems logic we should concentrate on diagnostics app then?
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Yes the Diagnosis app has already been analyzed, some attempts to interop unlock the device has unfortunately failed so far. But people are still looking for exploits. So far it is the only app found with that level of rights, albeit patching/replacing it will be a difficult task.
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Most of the app now require acces to the phone calls..even a news app requires it, sms app such as go sms also requires it. So I want to know after knowing that an app will be able to acces your phone call you still download it? And does anyone in what way the developers use such info?
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Excellent topic, I'm really troubled by this. The business world makes a whole lot of money based on the average persons inertia - their lack of information or willingness when it comes to the products and services they use and the money they use to pay for them. Particular mobile phone network providers come to mind, who are happy to charge the most expensive prices because people don't know or don't care.
This lazy attitude is seeping into the Android app world. It will be a small per centage of us who will realize this threat and do something about it - exactly like cookies and public wifi privacy etc.
For those of us already interested, are there websites or apps which can guide us on this?
I had thought about it before but it seemed to be all apps out there at least need to access your internet, calls, phonebook and etc.. Not sure really if some of these nasty apps has the evil purpose to steal our vital informations in the phone... say if we're checking our bank account or something similar..
What I practice:
1) Installed AVG pro and do scan regularly, and set to scan every newly installed apps.
2) Use both cache cleaner and history eraser to clean up all traces once a day.
3) Hope they don't see me as a target.
Don't worry.
I think access to the phone calls is just to minimize the running app in case you receive a call. In other case you would not even realize an incoming call?!
Deehee3 said:
Don't worry.
I think access to the phone calls is just to minimize the running app in case you receive a call. In other case you would not even realize an incoming call?!
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What about data? When you install an app in most cases you allow data access to it.
Searching for updates or viewing developers homepage maybe?
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Searching for updates or viewing developers homepage maybe?
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What if not? What if app you´ve installed is spying on you and sending info to hackers. How would you know?
On android we have the luck that there are a lot of applications that are open source. When I have to choose an application, I always choose and support the open projects!
You will notice that most of those applications don't need all that personal information! Makes you wonder...
On other systems, apps usually have an user/administrator scheme, where the 'user' has access to some things and 'administrator' has access to everything.
There is no such thing on Android (except if you have a rooted phone and some app asks for superuser access, but you get a requester asking for permissions as well).
Each app has to specifically ask for permissions or the system will deny it. A spyware has to ask for those permissions or it won't work.
Some permission requests to look out for:
- "Call phone"
can be used by the application to silently dial some "premium" numbers
- "Send SMS"
can be used to send SMS to special "premium" numbers
- "Record phone calls"
can be harmful if associated with "internet access" permission
- "Access fine location"/"access coarse location" and "internet access"
can be used for tracking purposes
Many apps ask for:
- "Phone identity" / "internet access"
they use it for "statistics purposes" (flurry.com mostly) but it is bad. The developer should always inform the user about those.
BTW, that an app is open source makes no difference. Someone can always (willingly or not) tamper with the final build. And not everyone reviews open source apps.
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A spyware has to ask for those permissions or it won't work.
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Sure. But if an app legitimately ask for data transmission and file system access, AND you grant it, how would you know it is not using the granted rights for something else?
ppirate said:
On android we have the luck that there are a lot of applications that are open source. When I have to choose an application, I always choose and support the open projects!
You will notice that most of those applications don't need all that personal information! Makes you wonder...
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Don´t tell me that you evaluate the source code of each application you load from the market. And even so, how would you know the difference between what is shown to you and the final build, available on the market?
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Sure. But if an app legitimately ask for data transmission and file system access, AND you grant it, how would you know it is not using the granted rights for something else?
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Filesystem access are limited to the external memory card. An app with such permission cannot access other apps' private data (which are stored on the phone).
Android apps are all sandboxed into their own homes.
A good example of a suspicious application is HTML5 Reference.
"This HTML5 reference lists all tags supported in the HTML5 specification.", fine. Let's look at the permissions:
Network communication: full Internet access
Phone calls: read phone state and identity
While the first 2 could be produced as a side effect of the developer implementing some "statistics library" (flurry.com or so), the next 2:
Your location: fine (GPS) location
Your personal information: read sensitive log data
Are a giveaway that this app does a bit more than just listing HTML reference tags
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Filesystem access are limited to the external memory card. An app with such permission cannot access other apps' private data (which are stored on the phone).
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Ok, how about a picture viewer, which usually picks pictures from each and every
directory, no matter if you want it (and not only from memory card).
Hey vlissine and zapek666. You both have a point.
One individual cannot review every code he or she uses. And also one does not only uses his or her own builds of the projects. But every now and then, I have to go into a project, mostly to add functionality. During that time, I usually have to go over a lot of code to understand the program. It is no guarantee, but you can imagine that some strange code will stand out.
I'm surely not the only person. So while one individual is not capable of such an endeavor. A lot are.
Your other point is as valid as can be. But here again, builds are comparable.
Surely, one does not have to find himself or herself obliged to use certain kind of projects. But to me, when I have the change, I use and support the open source project. One important reason is because of the concern raised by the original poster!
http://googlemobile.blogspot.com/2011/03/update-on-android-market-security.html
Apparently we were not that paranoid, thinking of spying apps
Two options:
1) To avoid being spy and get super paranoid about it... ditch your smartphone and get those early 2000 phones with only calls and sms capable.
2) Use the smart phone eg: X10 mini/pro or any android phones and ignore these spying scene and live with it like nothing ever going to happen since this new technologies really live up our life nowadays..
farsight73 said:
Two options:
1) To avoid being spy and get super paranoid about it... ditch your smartphone and get those early 2000 phones with only calls and sms capable.
2) Use the smart phone eg: X10 mini/pro or any android phones and ignore these spying scene and live with it like nothing ever going to happen since this new technologies really live up our life nowadays..
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One more option - stop giving stupid advises when you have nothing to say.
maybe apps need to call functions or need it to run?
write them your self if your that bothered?
...
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I posted this in another forum but I want to know what you guys here think about android security.
How worried are you all about security on the android platform? Don't you find it a little unnerving that anybody could upload and app to the android market and there is no verification of the app like on IOS platform. Anybody could write an app that looks legit but does devious things. All this along with there are very very few security applications and they are in the infant state. Don't you find it very dangerous? How do you try to maintain security on your android device? Don't download apps? Only download from known publishers? Or do you roll the dice and download anything? If you use a security app which one?
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I posted this in another forum but I want to know what you guys here think about android security.
How worried are you all about security on the android platform? Don't you find it a little unnerving that anybody could upload and app to the android market and there is no verification of the app like on IOS platform. Anybody could write an app that looks legit but does devious things. All this along with there are very very few security applications and they are in the infant state. Don't you find it very dangerous? How do you try to maintain security on your android device? Don't download apps? Only download from known publishers? Or do you roll the dice and download anything? If you use a security app which one?
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There are viruses for Android.....right ?
Besides , if you're smart enough you can check whether an app needs such permissions when installing , through the Mart or an .apk .
I don't like the way iOS works , they give too limited functionality .
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I posted this in another forum but I want to know what you guys here think about android security.
How worried are you all about security on the android platform? Don't you find it a little unnerving that anybody could upload and app to the android market and there is no verification of the app like on IOS platform. Anybody could write an app that looks legit but does devious things. All this along with there are very very few security applications and they are in the infant state. Don't you find it very dangerous? How do you try to maintain security on your android device? Don't download apps? Only download from known publishers? Or do you roll the dice and download anything? If you use a security app which one?
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i dont use a security app, i use common sense.
a game doesn't need access to my contacts...
notepad app doesn't need access to my private information...
this is why android phones are for the power users and shouldn't be used by soccer moms and grandmas - because they have no clue what they are doing with these phones except for when a phone call or text message comes in... let them have the iphones.
but if you are tech savvy, and want to squeeze every bit of user capability out of your phone, a high end android phone is for you.
the people that are tech savvy also have the awareness because they treat their phone like a computer, and not a phone.
just my thoughts.
I think the best thing would be if android embraced that the user can choose which permissions to give to apps. I mean, an app may want to know your location, you denies it, and the app continnues happily without using that functionality, or quits saying its essantial.
cobraboy85 said:
i dont use a security app, i use common sense.
a game doesn't need access to my contacts...
notepad app doesn't need access to my private information...
this is why android phones are for the power users and shouldn't be used by soccer moms and grandmas - because they have no clue what they are doing with these phones except for when a phone call or text message comes in... let them have the iphones.
but if you are tech savvy, and want to squeeze every bit of user capability out of your phone, a high end android phone is for you.
the people that are tech savvy also have the awareness because they treat their phone like a computer, and not a phone.
just my thoughts.
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very well put, unfortunately most dont think like this..
It is always a good habit to check the permissions an app needs before installation.I personally think that a system should be implemented in android market where all apps are erquested to give informaation on "Why they need certain permissions?".Certain apps do that.
An antivirus program is also useful in my opinion.I use Lookout antivirus,as i find it simple to use and does not slow down my phone.I tried avg but it slowed down my phone terribly.
hiitti said:
I think the best thing would be if android embraced that the user can choose which permissions to give to apps. I mean, an app may want to know your location, you denies it, and the app continnues happily without using that functionality, or quits saying its essantial.
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But, as a matter of degree, this just what we wish. The fact may be far beyond our imagination. Sometimes, malware still run certain functionalities even you cancel it. It's worse that some apps run secretly in system. I'm a little scared about security issue based on my PC.
cobraboy85 said:
i dont use a security app, i use common sense.
a game doesn't need access to my contacts...
notepad app doesn't need access to my private information...
this is why android phones are for the power users and shouldn't be used by soccer moms and grandmas - because they have no clue what they are doing with these phones except for when a phone call or text message comes in... let them have the iphones.
but if you are tech savvy, and want to squeeze every bit of user capability out of your phone, a high end android phone is for you.
the people that are tech savvy also have the awareness because they treat their phone like a computer, and not a phone.
just my thoughts.
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But a game might ask for internet/network permissions which you would probably accept. How do you guard against this? How can you prevent a malicious app that asks for relavent permissions but abuses them?
I never take the time to study the permissions required when I download an app from the market.
I tend to avoid the low number of d'load apps..... partly as there is less feedback to judge.... and partly as any app thats worth the download will have high stars and many d'loads.
Works for me so far.
Netquins running in the background just in case...... but whose to say they dont upload my contacts for spamming?
Prof Peach said:
I never take the time to study the permissions required when I download an app from the market.
I tend to avoid the low number of d'load apps..... partly as there is less feedback to judge.... and partly as any app thats worth the download will have high stars and many d'loads.
Works for me so far.
Netquins running in the background just in case...... but whose to say they dont upload my contacts for spamming?
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But what about new apps that may be legit? They won't have any reviews yet or stars. If everybody did the same as you it would never get reviews or stars? There's got to be a better way, don't you agree?
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But a game might ask for internet/network permissions which you would probably accept. How do you guard against this? How can you prevent a malicious app that asks for relavent permissions but abuses them?
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That's the only question above that can't be answered by LBE Privacy Guard.
Someone mentioned a game that wants access to your contacts. What if you really want the game? You just don't allow it access to your contacts and then play it anyway.
Most apps ask for access to your IMEI (you'd be surprised how many!) With LBE they don't get it.
Antivirus software is all well and good, but it's not the same as on a PC where pattern matching can be used. AV software on Android basically opens the apk file and has a look round to see if anything looks suspicious. Other than that, there's nothing it can do to stop a clever developer bypassing it.
Seriously, if you have concerns then get LBE and start restricting permissions access on an app-by-app basis.
johncmolyneux said:
That's the only question above that can't be answered by LBE Privacy Guard.
Someone mentioned a game that wants access to your contacts. What if you really want the game? You just don't allow it access to your contacts and then play it anyway.
Most apps ask for access to your IMEI (you'd be surprised how many!) With LBE they don't get it.
Antivirus software is all well and good, but it's not the same as on a PC where pattern matching can be used. AV software on Android basically opens the apk file and has a look round to see if anything looks suspicious. Other than that, there's nothing it can do to stop a clever developer bypassing it.
Seriously, if you have concerns then get LBE and start restricting permissions access on an app-by-app basis.
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this.
i was JUST about to say the same thing about the android "anti-virus" scam... not really a scam, but a false sense of security. as you said, not the same at ALL. people need to get out of the PC mindset with these phones. this is not windows, it's linux.
and i'm going to give LBE a shot. seems pretty legit.
for all of those running antivirus "software" on your phone, how many of you have actually run a virus scan and had it give a detailed description of a malicious "virus"....
Liking lookout
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ummm, anyone ever heard of antiviruses (Kapersky, maybe?)? Or at least look up the app's access to things... If it accesses something you don't want it to access (or think the app doesn't need to access it), don't install it!
I know out-of-the-box Androids aren't so vunerable to viruses, compared to rooted ones... So...?
First look up the developer of the app, then if you trust him, install, if you never heard of him, google it (or look at the comments at where you're downloading from), and if you had experience with the developer before (and if the experience is bad, like trojans, etc.), don't install!
(I don't understand half of what I'm typing XD...Don't blame me for misspellings, please )
Cant say I can rave or not when it comes to the anti virus apps.
Have used Lookout in the past and currently using netquin.... neither of which ever flagged up a virus, malware or whatever.
Its nice to think its running in the background but dont know whether it will do anything if its needed.
I was tempted to download a load of apps in a zip file but 20 secs in my Avast siad there was a virus. I'd like to think the market would have its own precautions but having searched the site, cant see any mention of its security for the apps we download.
Its a different thing altogether but we cant take the fact that its the market and relax...... the worst virus my laptop ever had came in an update from Microsoft...... and another directly from google tools.
Kapersky for Android then? You can pick up free full non-trial versions on the web...
About the Market - yes, that's true. You'd expect them to check if apps are infected or at least leave a bot to do it...
Sorta lame...
The best security is the brain.akp just like brain.exe is on windows - best thing it's free, godgiven and everyone got a copy
Zeze21 said:
The best security is the brain.akp just like brain.exe is on windows - best thing it's free, godgiven and everyone got a copy
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yeah but not everyone got the full version. A few of my friends got a corrupted exe and then this girl I know got the 30 day trial
not that good
Prawesome said:
It is always a good habit to check the permissions an app needs before installation.I personally think that a system should be implemented in android market where all apps are erquested to give informaation on "Why they need certain permissions?".Certain apps do that.
An antivirus program is also useful in my opinion.I use Lookout antivirus,as i find it simple to use and does not slow down my phone.I tried avg but it slowed down my phone terribly.
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I have both Lookout and AVG, neither has stopped my phone from getting up to 10 junk downloads, you have won an ipad, iphone etc., a day, not sms or email, I have to have every form of external contact turned off, the moment I get wifi or mobile access it starts downloading spam.
If anyone knows of a way to stop it I would appreciate the feedback
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Hi
It seem that users do not use my app so often ,
even lower than 3 percent I have daily active user ? (even I have got good rates on google play ) , I have excepted really higher than this .
why ?
Do Guys see any problem in my app ?
Do I have design problem ?
Do you find this app not useful ?
You can see my app here : https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.matchseller.proassistant
I am installing your app and will use it...
From User perspective:
Big app size 14 mb. I think its too big for an application.
Sample font is not attractive. Use system or Jelly Bean fonts.
My advice : Stop using Comic Sans MS font.
iAnoop said:
I am installing your app and will use it...
From User perspective:
Big app size 14 mb. I think its too big for a application.
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It has a video , I wait for more suggestion
Djabolic said:
My advice : Stop using Comic Sans MS font.
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Really Thanks , I will use Helvetica font in new version , wait for more info of you ...
Another thing I've spotted is; Due to natue of the application it requires lots of permissions. It might be scaring from user perspective.
AtaAlla said:
Really Thanks , I will use Helvetica font in new version , wait for more info of you ...
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If this is a serious response, there are lots of great fonts for free on the internet. Helvetica is overused and overrated.
Djabolic said:
Another thing I've spotted is; Due to natue of the application it requires lots of permissions. It might be scaring from a users perspective.
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All of them are needed , Do you think explaining each app prem for users in app good ?
AtaAlla said:
All of them are needed , Do you think explaining each app prem for users in app good ?
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Yes adding some info about why it requires that many permissions might help.
Djabolic said:
Another thing I've spotted is; Due to natue of the application it requires lots of permissions. It might be scaring from a users perspective.
If this is a serious response, there are lots of great fonts for free on the internet. Helvetica is overused and overrated.
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Yes , It is serious ! , which font do you think is really best for this app ?
Also Do you think black design is good ?
AtaAlla said:
Yes , It is serious ! , which font do you think is really best for this app ?
Also Do you think black design is good ?
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Dark colors are better for eye and it significantly reduces the battery use due to it's lightning level.
I can give you some links to find great fonts;
http://dizorb.com/2010/07/06/30-fresh-freefonts-for-designers/
http://bluefaqs.com/2010/07/20-free-fonts-ideal-for-logos-and-headings/
http://dizorb.com/2010/07/06/30-fresh-freefonts-for-designers/
http://www.hongkiat.com/blog/40-free-high-quality-hand-drawn-fonts/
Ok, I'll bite.
Just from a first glance, there are several issues:
a) Grammar/language issues throughout the app description
b) Multiple security permissions are needed, giving the app access to all data on the phone
c) The app description states that it "checks for updates everyday", which really sounds like it is sending data at regular intervals as updates should be managed through the Play Store rather than the app itself
d) The developer website listed does not load
e) Many features are duplicative of built in phone functionality
All in all, it really sounds like a huge security risk, and does not appear to add much value. This app basically has every possible issue that people are told to be skeptical of when referring to malware apps.
Assuming you are a legitimate developer, and truly want to make a good app, you should retool it to have more focus on functions that are a value add, rewrite the description to use proper grammar, separate the functions that require high level access to the permissions into separate apps that do not need to access the internet to get rid of the security concerns.
It really looks like a malware app, and there's no way I would even consider installing it, and the 100-ish downloads you have don't really give any sense of security.
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Djabolic said:
Dark colors are better for eye and it significantly reduces the battery use due to it's lightning level.
I can give you some links to find great fonts;
http://dizorb.com/2010/07/06/30-fresh-freefonts-for-designers/
http://bluefaqs.com/2010/07/20-free-fonts-ideal-for-logos-and-headings/
http://dizorb.com/2010/07/06/30-fresh-freefonts-for-designers/
http://www.hongkiat.com/blog/40-free-high-quality-hand-drawn-fonts/
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Special thanks for these links
I hope see more good suggestion of you ...
Fumetsu said:
Ok, I'll bite.
Just from a first glance, there are several issues:
a) Grammar/language issues throughout the app description
b) Multiple security permissions are needed, giving the app access to all data on the phone
c) The app description states that it "checks for updates everyday", which really sounds like it is sending data at regular intervals as updates should be managed through the Play Store rather than the app itself
d) The developer website listed does not load
e) Many features are duplicative of built in phone functionality
All in all, it really sounds like a huge security risk, and does not appear to add much value. This app basically has every possible issue that people are told to be skeptical of when referring to malware apps.
Assuming you are a legitimate developer, and truly want to make a good app, you should retool it to have more focus on functions that are a value add, rewrite the description to use proper grammar, separate the functions that require high level access to the permissions into separate apps that do not need to access the internet to get rid of the security concerns.
It really looks like a malware app, and there's no way I would even consider installing it, and the 100-ish downloads you have don't really give any sense of security.
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus
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Great Reply , I will keep all of them in mind , Also do you think explaining every prem request is usefull for people ?
Also I want your opinion about these :
Design
Performance
Video Added
App Translate (if I include)
Also , I have added some useful features in new version , please see attached image :
New verision has App Lock with Message Blocker with Battery Usage info with Cache cleaner .
Do you think they are useful ?
video added .
I think there are way too many concerns with permissions for me to consider even installing the app. The most popular SMS and Call Log backup and restore apps are from a trusted, well known developer, with a website and contact info, and the network permissions are only for displaying AdMob ads, and limited permissions for the all to perform its function.
In contrast, your website does not load and is registered in Iran, and your app has access to just about every possible permission involving my data that it can possibly have, in addition to having full network access. I'm not trying to offend, but I have no sense of security about allowing your app to have unrestricted access to all of my data. There are way too many red flags about what your app can do that I would not install it in its given state, especially with the numerous free alternatives from established developers that are available.
You really should consider splitting these into separate apps. If you want to build a Music Player, build a stand alone music player. Build a separate global search app. Build a separate Call Blocker, etc. I think you should narrow the focus of what you are trying to have your app do, and eliminate the network access permission so that a user can use your app without being concerned about where their data may be going. From a design standpoint, switching to the Holo design guidelines for Android 4.0 would be a good start. This may have been adequate on Froyo or Gingerbread, but from a design standpoint it appears very outdated.
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File size is very large. Most of the budget phones comes with the low internal memory.
It is too large.
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Fumetsu said:
I think there are way too many concerns with permissions for me to consider even installing the app. The most popular SMS and Call Log backup and restore apps are from a trusted, well known developer, with a website and contact info, and the network permissions are only for displaying AdMob ads, and limited permissions for the all to perform its function.
In contrast, your website does not load and is registered in Iran, and your app has access to just about every possible permission involving my data that it can possibly have, in addition to having full network access. I'm not trying to offend, but I have no sense of security about allowing your app to have unrestricted access to all of my data. There are way too many red flags about what your app can do that I would not install it in its given state, especially with the numerous free alternatives from established developers that are available.
You really should consider splitting these into separate apps. If you want to build a Music Player, build a stand alone music player. Build a separate global search app. Build a separate Call Blocker, etc. I think you should narrow the focus of what you are trying to have your app do, and eliminate the network access permission so that a user can use your app without being concerned about where their data may be going. From a design standpoint, switching to the Holo design guidelines for Android 4.0 would be a good start. This may have been adequate on Froyo or Gingerbread, but from a design standpoint it appears very outdated.
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Yes , your information is really useful , and two thinks that should be in mind :
This app designed for users to help them find things very fast , aslo have most needs tools for user and allow them use less memory load on phone .
but what is your opinion about removing internet premession completely . ( But I will lose app ads, update checker, lyrics load, load statics , bug reports , ....)
Also Do not see normal users like yourself, most of them are not as like as you ...
ktsamy said:
File size is very large. Most of the budget phones comes with the low internal memory.
It is too large.
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Do you see any other problem ?
AtaAlla said:
Do you see any other problem ?
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I am sorry but that is a very important issue. If an application is over 10mb, I very rarely install it. I like to keep my phone free from as much bloat as I can - even though it has 8GB of internal storage and 4GB of SD storage - the issue still stands. If you have to have a video, encode it to make it a much lower size before including it into the application.
I also think the name is too generic. If you could choose a catchier name or something more descriptive, you might get more people to notice it.
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Hi.
I tried to search but couldn't find any solution for this issue.
I know making a real unremovable app is impossible, but I hope I'll be able to find a way to make an app harder to remove.
I want to make some kind of parental protection app.
it should be installed easily without much technical knowledge ( preferred that it will work on unrooted devices).
the app should be hard to remove or disable by the phone user.
who ever installed the app should be able to remove (probably with a password in the app settings).
I don't care if technical users will be able to easily remove the app.
I also don't care if the users will know that the app is installed on their device
I guess the simplest solution will be to some how hide the app from the app drawer.
I saw some where that Cerberus has that option but I guess it requires a root.
another solution might be if there is an option in the android os itself setting an admin password that will not allow
the user to install or remove any apps without the password.
any ideas if how to approach this ?
This is surely not a complete answer, but maybe a point to start with.
In android, you can write services: http://developer.android.com/reference/android/app/Service.html
A facility for the application to tell the system about something it wants to be doing in the background (even when the user is not directly interacting with the application). This corresponds to calls to Context.startService(), which ask the system to schedule work for the service, to be run until the service or someone else explicitly stop it.
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And there is a possibility of receiving a message if the uninstaller of an app is started: http://developer.android.com/reference/android/content/Intent.html (ACTION_UNINSTALL_PACKAGE).
Google will probably help you on how to use these things
Thanks I'll have a look
David:D said:
This is surely not a complete answer, but maybe a point to start with.
In android, you can write services: http://developer.android.com/reference/android/app/Service.html
And there is a possibility of receiving a message if the uninstaller of an app is started: http://developer.android.com/reference/android/content/Intent.html (ACTION_UNINSTALL_PACKAGE).
Google will probably help you on how to use these things
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Hi guys, not sure if this is the right place to do this but i've got a question i hope i can get clarified here with you experts
I am a PM that is in charge of a managing the delivery and development of a business's mobile application. Recently the company is looking to get rid of the incumbent developer due to unprofessional-ism and exorbitant fees. The other technology partner i am directly engaging with is a newly appointed development house and is tasked to clone the app and add additional features the incumbent refuses to add on.
Come launch date, the business requires the new app to replace the old app. To the existing customer base, the goal is to ensure that the transition is as seamless as possible. They are hoping that when existing users open the app, they will be prompted to install an update where the old one is then replaced with the old one. As such, is it possible for the new technology partners to this? What are the necessary steps required? I am trying to ensure that all necessary precautions and dependencies are covered to ensure any potential backlash / fallout. Is it as simple as obtaining the app certificate and ensuring the apk is named exactly the same? Any advice would be helpful.
The worst case scenario here would be to get the users to reinstall the app entirely or treat it as a completely separate app. :crying:
You need the signature keys of your first developer to sign the new APK which needs to have the same package name. And access to the dev console. Then you can upload the new app which will be treated as every other update by Google Play. Without changing the first app you won't be able to force the users to update AFAIK.
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You need the signature keys of your first developer to sign the new APK which needs to have the same package name. And access to the dev console. Then you can upload the new app which will be treated as every other update by Google Play. Without changing the first app you won't be able to force the users to update AFAIK.
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Hi thanks for the reply. Much appreciated! Would this be similar for iOS as well?
Relating to the last statement. What do you mean by "without changing the first app.."
androFRUST said:
Hi thanks for the reply. Much appreciated! Would this be similar for iOS as well?
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I don't have enough experience with iOS to comment on that.
Relating to the last statement. What do you mean by "without changing the first app.."
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While you can upload a new version of the same app the users would still have to manually (or automatically if their device is configured that way) download it. Google released a "forced update" API a while ago. If that is included in your old app that might help. Otherwise you would have to add it manually which would require access to the source code. But then the users would have to manually update too so it would be quite useless.
So one way to force them to update is to disable all APIs the app might use but that might alienate the users as they have no clue why it stopped working. So as long as you have no notification system that is working right now you have to depend on your users updating.