Hi guys,
So I was just browsing ebay and came across a brand new 16 gb nook tablet and was able to grab it for under 200, so I caved in and bought it.
This is my first tablet and I've done some minor homework to figure out what I want to get out of it.
Basically, I've deduced I'm definitely going to root it, the question being whether to go with the CM7 or CM9. Since I'm just going to be using it for general use, I think I'll go with CM7 since from what I've read that is the most stable system right now. I think I can find the resources on here to do that.
The next thing is, I am not interested in buying an SD card, so I was looking around for ways to unlock the full 16gb of memory and saw this thread about repartioning:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1531120&highlight=use+16gb
So basically, I just want to confirm if my approach is correct. Since I want to root it for optimal use and get the full 16gb, the correct things to do are
1. Root with CM7 procedure
2. Follow that thread to repartition
Is that correct? Just want to make sure I have the proper procedure down
Thanks
Well if you're just using it for general use and you're not planning on running intensive games or watching HD YouTube vids, I'd go with cm9. Just for one reason, the layout in apps. Not so much market apps except for a select few they are really well designed but the Google apps: They're so much better laid out for a tablet, cm7 feels to me like you're using a big gingerbread phone and I hate it. Just compare the Gmail apps, just do it. If no hw accel doesn't bother you and you don't mind a little less battery life (its a minimal difference, using wake lock to stop SODs) then definately go with cm9! As for rooting I'd watch Alberctwertz's YouTube channel, great tutorials over there. I don't know about repartitioning, I haven't messed with mine and I have all 12 (well 11 really) gb of internal open to me. Just IMO.
Hope it helps
Sent from my CM9 Alpha 0.02 Nook Tablet
SilentStormer said:
Well if you're just using it for general use and you're not planning on running intensive games or watching HD YouTube vids, I'd go with cm9. Just for one reason, the layout in apps. Not so much market apps except for a select few they are really well designed but the Google apps: They're so much better laid out for a tablet, cm7 feels to me like you're using a big gingerbread phone and I hate it. Just compare the Gmail apps, just do it. If no hw accel doesn't bother you and you don't mind a little less battery life (its a minimal difference, using wake lock to stop SODs) then definately go with cm9! As for rooting I'd watch Alberctwertz's YouTube channel, great tutorials over there. I don't know about repartitioning, I haven't messed with mine and I have all 12 (well 11 really) gb of internal open to me. Just IMO.
Hope it helps
Sent from my CM9 Alpha 0.02 Nook Tablet
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Thanks for the quick response. So if I understand correctly, simply rooting to CM9 will open up 11gb of space no problem?
Also, if I do this, will it be easy to upgrade once an improved version of CM9 comes out?
beantownmh said:
Thanks for the quick response. So if I understand correctly, simply rooting to CM9 will open up 11gb of space no problem?
Also, if I do this, will it be easy to upgrade once an improved version of CM9 comes out?
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It looks good, except in between 1 and 2 you need to have flashed clockworkmod onto the internal storage. Indirect's clockworkmod flasher apk is somewhere in the forums.
And no, it won't free up 11 gigs. The problem is that the /data partition has a huge chunk of storage. That's where all your apps are stored. I mean you could always store things in /data if you really wanted.
Yes, upgrade will be easy. With clockworkmod it's simple, you just select to "apply update from zip", and wipe cache and you're good to go.
Just went ahead and ordered a 16 gb micro sd on amazon for 10 bucks to give myself the extra storage + easy rooting, so that should pretty much cover all the problems.
However I'm still confused about this 11 gb that is "locked" or whatever. After a root, is that data accessible for storage? I'm not really sure what people are talking about in reference to that
beantownmh said:
Just went ahead and ordered a 16 gb micro sd on amazon for 10 bucks to give myself the extra storage + easy rooting, so that should pretty much cover all the problems.
However I'm still confused about this 11 gb that is "locked" or whatever. After a root, is that data accessible for storage? I'm not really sure what people are talking about in reference to that
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If I remember right, its available but not in the "My Nook" partition that mounts on your PC (this will show as .99gb). So you won't be able to transfer stuff directly from your computer to the nook internal. By re-partitioning, you make it so the mounted internal drive is all of the available internal storage.
As of right now, CM9 does not mount internal at all though. CM7 does as well as the stock B&N OS.
you can use CM9 or CM7 or you can just root it. but i recommend either root it or try CM7, CM9 seems like there are many issues.
it has 16 GB, but only 13 GB is available to use, and in that 13 GB: 12 GB is used for B&N content, you have only 1 GB to use.
if you follow that thread, you still don't have 16 GB (because only 13 GB is available to use)
and instead of doing it yourself, why don't you let B&N do it?
btw, you should use sd card, it's not that expensive and you'll need it to root or install CM7,... most programs store data in sd card, you can also use a sd card to backup,....
Before you do anything, i recommend that you boot into CWM from an sd card and make a full backup of the stock tablet. Also go into settings and record all the unique numbers like the serial and the MAC address in case you brick it at some point and have to fully scrub it to unbrick it.
~Tim
Sent from my Nook Tablet using XDA
First, take a look at this thread for creating a Root/ROM/Recovery SD card by Albert Wertz:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1528625
Follow those steps, and you can install any ROM you want on your Nook, painlessly. I second the recommendation that you back up your unrooted Nook before you do anything else.
Saludos,
Steve
Thanks for all the input guys! Will definitely keep you posted once it gets here and I get to work.
I'm still a little confused about the 13 gb that is locked... so even after a root, that is still only available for B&N content...? That's what has me lost, I don't get how rooting wouldn't unlock that to be used for any type of content
yes, why is the 13 gb still un-usable ?
hmmm, if you boot up an 'os' ( cwm 7.2 or 9 ) on the external sd card, and then the internal structure has to stay the way it is... the internal 'has to be' un-modified in order for it to boot up into stock nook 'os'.
but when the dev gurus get all done with the replacement of the internal 'os' ( next month ? ) then we will be 'in charge' and get to use the memory the way we want.
still confused
i can't seem to glean a clear answer here. i have flashed my internal my NT with cm7 alpha final. Can I access the entire 16gb of storage? my storage tab in "settings" shows 5gb. where is the rest???
patterone said:
i can't seem to glean a clear answer here. i have flashed my internal my NT with cm7 alpha final. Can I access the entire 16gb of storage? my storage tab in "settings" shows 5gb. where is the rest???
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You need to repartition. Either have Barnes and Noble do it or do it yourself using this method: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1531120
will b&n do this to my cm7 system
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my storage tab in "settings" shows 5gb. where is the rest, how can 12gb be "locked"
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will b&n do this to my cm7 system
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my storage tab in "settings" shows 5gb. where is the rest, how can 12gb be "locked"
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In order to get the rest, you must repartition your NT so all of the space is usable.
Barnes and Noble's method will take you back to completely stock. You will have to reroot and reflash everything again. That's why it's recommended that you do it manually following the steps in the link I provided.
i just got my nt certified preowned from b&n. df -h shows 5.3G /data and 7.5g /mnt/media. has my system already been repartitioned??
patterone said:
i just got my nt certified preowned from b&n. df -h shows 5.3G /data and 7.5g /mnt/media. has my system already been repartitioned??
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Oh, then yes. It looks like your NT was already partitioned by Barnes and Noble. They changed your media partition from 1GB to 8GB (7.5GB usable).
ahhhhhh.... thanks so much, i thought i was losing my mind. what i was seeing didnt match up with the above discussion. thanks again
No problem. Glad to hear you aren't losing your mind!
So if I'd like to get mine repartitioned by B&N before rooting I can do that? Do I just go to their b&m store and request to see a technician?
Related
A copy of this thread is in general discussion here for the new people to comment, and a copy will be placed in development. Links to come.
Disclaimer: Rooting your internal memory card is a violation of the warranty agreement between you and Barnes and Noble. That being said, what Barnes and Noble doesn't know, wont hurt them. If you can return it to stock, they dont care. The tricky part is, this is all on YOU. You are not being persuaded to modify your device. You do this at your own risk. Under no circumstances is anyone required to help you fix a tablet that you bricked.
Modifications to the boot files to make it possible for these hacks to work on the 8gb Nook Tablet were made by Meghd00t at this thread
Notes: If you have an 8gb NT, Do not use the recovery flasher app to flash CWM and replace stock recovery, just work off of the cwm on the bootable SD card. There is currently not an easy way to revert back to stock recovery for the 8gb NT.
Video Demonstration http://youtu.be/0HC9XL_9aXk
Thread for SD Root (Works on 8gb and 16gb Nook Tablets, Software version Does not matter because this bypasses it to boot to SD)
Thread for R3 card (Works on 8gb and 16gb Nook Tablets, Software version Does not matter because this bypasses it to boot to SD) *** Only flash 16gb ROMs to the 16gb NT and only flash 8gb roms to the 8gb NT***
Thread for Recovery Roms (ONLY FLASH THE RECOVERY ROM THAT IS MEANT FOR YOUR TABLET!!! PAY ATTENTION TO THE 8gb(NT250A) or 16gb(NT250) markings!!!
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ahaha you're fast...
PS: waiting for the video/s want to see how you bricked your device for a moment
~ Veronica
Card Type ?
Hello
First off of course is to thank the folks who make these options available to us !!! I can stress enough how much I appreciate this material.
The question: Locally atm I can get some 8 GB microsd cards in the class 4 (cheaper) or 10 variants. For making the root card, and also for making the R3 card is a class 4 card fine ? Or is a class 10 a far better option ?
I've done considerable reading and some vid watching so far and am gathering my materials to begin work on my NT
Very exciting stuff !
WarZ4XDA said:
Hello
First off of course is to thank the folks who make these options available to us !!! I can stress enough how much I appreciate this material.
The question: Locally atm I can get some 8 GB microsd cards in the class 4 (cheaper) or 10 variants. For making the root card, and also for making the R3 card is a class 4 card fine ? Or is a class 10 a far better option ?
I've done considerable reading and some vid watching so far and am gathering my materials to begin work on my NT
Very exciting stuff !
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I recommend a Class 4 SanDisk card. SanDisk seems to be a brand that is pretty reliable in the NT.
As for the classes, a Class 4 should suit you just fine. All that a class number tells the consumer is the sequential read/write speeds (copying and moving files for example.)
The SD card attribute that we NT users should be looking at is the 4IN random read/write speeds. The faster this is, the smoother a ROM running from that SD card should be.
If you're more interested, you can test the speeds of your SD cards by using a PC program called CrystalDiskMark.
B&N Repartition ?
Hiya - another Q :
Considering running in to B&N real quick and doing their repartition before I get started. If I read correctly I should still be able to use the created microsd card to root etc. In particular was planning to do the R3 card at the moment.
Is that a worthwhile move ? Does the root open up all that protected storage anyways making the B&N repartition a moot point ? If I wasnt rooting I'd do this anyways. Does the repartition change what rooting options are available to me from others ? For example I see a number of options where they state that it works only for the 16 GB version and not the 8 GB version. If I do this repartition is my nook now considered in the 8 GB class when considering root options ? Or will it be considered in the 16 GB class always even with the B&N reparition ?
TY for all replies !
WarZ4XDA said:
Hiya - another Q :
Considering running in to B&N real quick and doing their repartition before I get started. If I read correctly I should still be able to use the created microsd card to root etc. In particular was planning to do the R3 card at the moment.
Is that a worthwhile move ? Does the root open up all that protected storage anyways making the B&N repartition a moot point ? If I wasnt rooting I'd do this anyways. Does the repartition change what rooting options are available to me from others ? For example I see a number of options where they state that it works only for the 16 GB version and not the 8 GB version. If I do this repartition is my nook now considered in the 8 GB class when considering root options ? Or will it be considered in the 16 GB class always even with the B&N reparition ?
TY for all replies !
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Okay, so a couple of things to say here.
Your 16GB NT will always have the 16GB rooting/custom ROM options, changing the partitions will not reduce your options (unless you manage to mess up the partitions somehow).
Whether you do a manually repartition and choose how much storage you want allocated OR you take your NT into Barnes and Noble, you will still be able to run the R3 card.
Barnes and Noble's repartition only frees up half of the internal data space which turns out to be a little less than 8GB I believe. A simple root will NOT open up any more storage space than before unless you repartition.
If you'd like to do the manual repartition, I can go find the link for you. If you're not comfortable doing that, you'd best head over to the local B&N and have them do it for you.
Error While Making Backup
UPDATE:
I did get it to backup. I vaguely remembered reading somewhere about swapping to a different card for backup for size. So I tried another card and the backup completed. So looks like I was just running into a wall of not enough room on the card. For the life of me I just couldnt find that post or info again after that, lol. Yes I am a noob and thanks for bearing with me.
I've also successfully loaded / changed to a bunch of ROM's so far as well. Checked out CM7b, the default 999 on card, and then finally went back and did a basic root on my v143 backed up rom. I've stopped at the rooted v143 for tonight because of time and to ease myself into the changes.
So I'm mostly set so far
2 Questions:
1) The video states that NT Hidden Settings needs to be updated in order to gain the OTA blocker. However when I visit google play it doesnt show "update" as an option. And I dont see the OTA entries in settings that the video says I should see. I saw in another thread that someone noted this as well, but didnt see a reply.
2) On the video I see the version as CWM-based Recovery v5.5.0.4
In the R3 I created from the files current as of yesterday I see it as v5.0.2.8
Does that mean the version on my R3 is older than the one used in the video ? Or am I just misinterpreting the version numbers.
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Was near B&N today and as per the previous post decided to just let them do partition and reinstall to save myself that step. And to have the option to backup my nook to stock with the already set repartition in case I want to go back in the future. They did the repartition and reset. She went through the update to v1.4.3 before I realized she was at it. However I read that this works with 1.4.3 anyways so didnt fret too much. So upon leaving and back at home the nook was all repartition and 'hunky dorey'
Used an 8 GB Scan Disk class 10 MicroSD card (was on sale and almost as much as a 4).
Followed the instructions and apparently successfully made the R3 Card.
Booted up into CWM fine without needing the power cord.
Menu'ed to 'backup and restore', then to 'backup', device goes through a lot of the process before eventually giving the error:
Error while making a backup image of /data!
Update : Figured it out - see above
TY
Starting Point
I have searched through the threads on this and in Development. Does the starting point for using this ROM need to be stock B&N or can I start from CM7 and flash this and have it replace the current ROM? One method is shorter than the other but if it doesn't get me to where I want to end up there is no point. Thanks (be semi gentle if I missed a previous reference that answers my question)
RhinoNelson said:
I have searched through the threads on this and in Development. Does the starting point for using this ROM need to be stock B&N or can I start from CM7 and flash this and have it replace the current ROM? One method is shorter than the other but if it doesn't get me to where I want to end up there is no point. Thanks (be semi gentle if I missed a previous reference that answers my question)
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What exactly do you want to do?
I am currently running CM7 and want to switch to Alberts v4.7 ROM. I vacilate - primarily because of Netflix and other videos I download and watch - between the two options. I used his v4.6 prior to CM7 and didn't keep a backup so the process is more involved now.
RhinoNelson said:
I am currently running CM7 and want to switch to Alberts v4.7 ROM. I vacilate - primarily because of Netflix and other videos I download and watch - between the two options. I used his v4.6 prior to CM7 and didn't keep a backup so the process is more involved now.
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As long as both ROMs can use the same kernel, you can flash over your current ROM to switch to the new one. Just be sure to use the proper ClockWork Mod flashing instructions.
WarZ4XDA said:
UPDATE:
2 Questions:
1) The video states that NT Hidden Settings needs to be updated in order to gain the OTA blocker. However when I visit google play it doesnt show "update" as an option. And I dont see the OTA entries in settings that the video says I should see. I saw in another thread that someone noted this as well, but didnt see a reply.
2) On the video I see the version as CWM-based Recovery v5.5.0.4
In the R3 I created from the files current as of yesterday I see it as v5.0.2.8
Does that mean the version on my R3 is older than the one used in the video ? Or am I just misinterpreting the version numbers.
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Can anybody answer these 2 questions - please - or point us to the answer.
jerbedn said:
Can anybody answer these 2 questions - please - or point us to the answer.
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1. I think OTA blocking was added to the app later on.
2. It could be that you're using an earlier version of CWM. I've used the first version ever released on my NT16 and haven't had any trouble.
R3 Files
Hey can i get the link for the R3 files?
t2jcracked said:
Hey can i get the link for the R3 files?
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sent it in private message to you
Sir
Is there a way to gain access to the files, need to build my own sd cards as I have lost everything.
I just purchased a nook 16gb tablet and want to replace the nook software with cm7. I have been reading and there are so many different methods I'm not sure what to do. Can someone point me in the right direction? It has 1.4.2 on it and I want to completely replace it with cm7. No need for the nook software.
1.) Make bootable CWM recovery SD card, found here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1446987
2.) Download CM7 internal version, found here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1481826
3.) Download latest gApps, found here: http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/wiki/Latest_Version/Google_Apps
4.) Place the CM7 zip and the gApps zip on My NOOK internal memory (mnt/media partition).
5.) Boot into your CWM SD card (plugging into the charger may be necessary to get it to boot from SD).
6.) Wipe dalvik cache
Factory reset
Install the CM7 ROM from internal SD card
Install gApps from internal SD card
Reboot
7.) Enjoy!
Thanks for the detailed answer. Will this give me access to more than 1gb of space or do I need to repartition the memory as well?
andre0116 said:
Thanks for the detailed answer. Will this give me access to more than 1gb of space or do I need to repartition the memory as well?
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You will still need to partition. If you live near a bn store you could have them do it for you since you haven't changed anything yet, but it isn't that difficult to do yourself.
Sent from my Nook Tablet using xda premium
tmjohnsonfse said:
You will still need to partition. If you live near a bn store you could have them do it for you since you haven't changed anything yet, but it isn't that difficult to do yourself.
Sent from my Nook Tablet using xda premium
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Note: having B&N do it will give you less space to use than if you do it yourself.
I used the repart.img from the bn 1.42 factory recovery to get 8 gb. Is there an easy way to get more space?
Here is the way to choose how much storage you want divided between partitions. Just folllow the directions and you should be okay.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1531120
If i screw something up can I use the repart.img sd card to get back to where I'm at now?
andre0116 said:
If i screw something up can I use the repart.img sd card to get back to where I'm at now?
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Yes, you should be able to get the partitions back to factory stock if necessary. However, many people have used this method without trouble, so I wouldn't worry about it too much.
andre0116 said:
If i screw something up can I use the repart.img sd card to get back to where I'm at now?
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I know it seems daunting but if you follow the steps exactly and execute the commands as shown, you'll be just fine.
Well so far I have cm7 installed with 8 gb of usable space and haven't had any problems. Thanks for the info and reassurance. I will try to repartition it again after work.
I notice everyone seems to be running cm9. This tablet is mainly going to be used by my daughter to read books, play games, and watch side loaded video. Is the current build sufficient for that or should I wait for a later one?
andre0116 said:
I notice everyone seems to be running cm9. This tablet is mainly going to be used by my daughter to read books, play games, and watch side loaded video. Is the current build sufficient for that or should I wait for a later one?
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If I were you, I'd stick with CM7 for now, at least until the devs publish a release candidate with the 3.0x kernel.
For what your daughter is planning to do, CM7 will fit the bill nicely; the only thing to be aware of is WiFi hangups -- you need to show her how to turn the WiFi off before turning the screen off, or show her how to reboot the tablet.
Saludos,
Steve
andre0116 said:
I notice everyone seems to be running cm9. This tablet is mainly going to be used by my daughter to read books, play games, and watch side loaded video. Is the current build sufficient for that or should I wait for a later one?
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Everyone is definitely not running cm9, as of a few weeks ago, according to my poll here.
With that said, unless your daughter plans on using Netflix/higher end games, I'd check out CM9. The CM9 .04 version is extremely stable aside from hardware acceleration.
I was referring to the people responding to my questions based on their signatures. I will have to check it out. She won't be playing any high end games.
I installed cm9 and gapps then repartitioned the internal memory. Everything seemed to go fine but I can't see the internal memory from my pc. Unless I have an sd card mounted it doesn't even give me the option to turn on usb storage. Any ideas what I'm doing wrong?
For rock solid stability, since it would be used by your daughter, stick to stock firmware, root and install gapps via memory card the img file and apps are posted in relevant thread in development section for rooting 1.4.2. than install a launcher of your choice i prefer holo launcher as it gives the ics feel. All other builds cm7 and cm9 are battery suckers.
All roms dont support micro sd and internal memory together Stick to stock firmware. Try disabling adb debugging mode to enable usb file transfer.
I guess if i would open my eyes I would have noticed it is listed as a known cm9 problem. I really like the look of cm9 but think I'm gonna have to wait till they get a few more things working. I never really considered stock with another launcher. I may play around with that a bit and see what I like. Thanks for the suggestion.
I´m trying to make up my mind about getting this or not. I have some doubts:
1 - Is there a stable available rom that will let me experience the full android experience instead of the default "cropped" version that comes with it?
2 - With this rom will I be able to use the Nooks' internal 16gb as well as the micro sd card I plan to use?
3 - My main use for it is reading but when I travel I would very much like to copy a bunch of movies into a 32gb micro sd card to watch. Is this possible?
cm7 is nice but so are any of the other roms such as the MIUI ones
cm7 is more widely used so there is obviously going to be much more support.
Get the B&N app from the market or get the kindle one XD
Cm7 was simple to use
I thought I would add,
1 - cm7, the method of booting from sd card to run it, was very easy for me to get working when my nt decided it would spontaneously go into factory reset mode and fail to complete. Ran great, just have to figure out how to partition sd card to allow for a bit more storage available. I, however, have not tried internal method.
Just adding my meager experience, too much of a newb to offer any more info hope it helps more than stinkies the thread
rawfa said:
I´m trying to make up my mind about getting this or not. I have some doubts:
1 - Is there a stable available rom that will let me experience the full android experience instead of the default "cropped" version that comes with it?
2 - With this rom will I be able to use the Nooks' internal 16gb as well as the micro sd card I plan to use?
3 - My main use for it is reading but when I travel I would very much like to copy a bunch of movies into a 32gb micro sd card to watch. Is this possible?
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1.) CM7 is certainly the most stable. You just need to decide if you want to run it internally or from a microSD card.
2.) You will have to either take your NT into Barnes and Noble and have them repartition halfway for you OR you could do the repartitioning yourself and get all the internal storage availabe for you to use.
3.) As long as the movies are in some kind of normal format, you should be fine.
shempie said:
I thought I would add,
1 - cm7, the method of booting from sd card to run it, was very easy for me to get working when my nt decided it would spontaneously go into factory reset mode and fail to complete. Ran great, just have to figure out how to partition sd card to allow for a bit more storage available. I, however, have not tried internal method.
Just adding my meager experience, too much of a newb to offer any more info hope it helps more than stinkies the thread
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If you need to allocate the rest of the space of your SD card, use either MiniTool Partition Wizard or EASEUS Partition Master to extend the 4th partition of the SD card. Let us know if you get stuck.
Cm7 is stable thigh patiently waiting for Cm9 to settle. netflicks works fine in 7 and Mv player is great for watching movies.
Nikkie
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Thanks guys.
One more doubt. If I root it can I install any app from the google play store? Other then reading books I just want to be able to install mozilla, gmail and moboplayer. Do I really need to install a different rom to be able to do this? Frankly, I would prefer to simply be able to install these apps (maybe a different launcher, but this is not a must like the 3 apps I´ve mentioned).
All of those apps should show up in the play store just fine. For some apps you may need to modify the build.prop file for them to show up in the play store or sideload the apks.
Sideloading is possible I believe in the later versions of the B&N OS, but it can be a pain. Sideloading in 1.4.0 though is as simple as getting the apk for an app and installing it (much as you would on windows with a .exe file).
You mean I can install these 3 apps on the Nook straight from the google play store?? Isn´t the Nook Tablet full of restraints like the Kindle that won´t allow you to download apps from the google play store?
Nope
No, I there are no restrictions except for game loft games. They require the device name to be compatible and on their list. But you can easily go around that.
Other than that, it is a normal tablet
rawfa said:
You mean I can install these 3 apps on the Nook straight from the google play store?? Isn´t the Nook Tablet full of restraints like the Kindle that won´t allow you to download apps from the google play store?
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From what I remember, with update 1.4.1 and up you cannot sideload apps (i.e. install from anywhere but B&N app store).
There are ways around it but they are tedious. Best bet if you want stock is to revert to 1.4.0.
[SOLVED SOLVED SOLVED]
I found out, to sweet relief, that I have the 16GB model
When you restart the tablet, cyanoboot lists the specs at the top left corner.
You will notice that the 16GB model shows up as having 5.3GBs in the storage menu. This is false. What's really happened is that you have a 7.5GB partition with free space. If you wish to reclaim this space, you must repartition your nook (a risky process). If you want to use that space without risking bricking, you can simply copy over your files and documents to that partition easily using the file manager. Hope that helps.
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Hi everyone, I recently won a bid on Ebay and bought a Nook Tablet for $50, with free shipping.
I successfully flashed CM10 blah blah...and when I go into Settings > Device > Storage, it lists the following:
Total space: 5.50GB
Available 5.31GB
... blah blah ...
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Internal storage
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Total space: 7.45GB
Now, it seems to me that this tablet is the 8GB model. The seller stated the item was 16GB...
(I backed up the stock ROM already, in case I needed to return the item should it not be as described).
I want to know what amount of space those of you running the 16GB model have in that menu.
Is there a way to confirm if my tablet really is the 16GB model or 8GB model? (Note: I didn't even bother to register on the official nook ROM from fear of updating it to a un-hackable ROM, so I don't know what model I have unless I reflash the stock ROM and register!) Is it possible that there could be unallocated space that CM isn't finding?
If it really is the 8GB model, I can contact the seller (who offers free return shipping) and get a replacement.
Please help!
I believe that's its the 8 if the system states that I believe its true.
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curly9 said:
I believe that's its the 8 if the system states that I believe its true.
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Damn! I waited a week for this thing to come! Now I have to spend another week getting a replacement!
Alright, I'd like to hear from a person who has the 16GB model and see how much space s/he has before shipping this back...
Le sigh...
UPDATE! Question answered!!!
So, when I rebooted the tablet again, I saw cyanoboot say this model was the 1GB/16GB model at the top.
It is indeed the 16GB model!
I opened up the terminal app and also checked some things in the file manager...
Output of "df" (the marked stat I believe to be the unallocated space):
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(I can't post image links yet because I'm a noob)
Now, I forgot to post this earlier, but I see on the bottom that there is ANOTHER storage tab which states:
Internal storage (representation of the bar. Plus signs mean a gray strip):
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Total space: 7.45GB
Available: 7.45GB
Furthermore, I opened up the file manager. After doing so, I am presented with the location "sdcard0" which contains folders such as B&N Downloads, LOST.dir, and My Files. These seem to be present from the previous stock Nook firmware. I seem to have not thoroughly reset/format the tablet...
Could someone tell me how I would go about reclaiming the space? If required, I can reflash it easily.
Great you the model figured it out! Easiest way to check (because many get confused with the storage numbers and don't realize there are more than one partition) is to look at the model number in faint lettering under the speaker (at the back). The 8GB is 250A and the 16GB is 250.
What space do you need to reclaime? The 7.45 is there for you to use freely. 5GB is for apps and approx 3GB is for OS. If you want to change partition sizes you need to repartition. seacrch for that and you shall find, but quite frankly, I think the current partitions are fine sinec you can always use sd card.
really, thats my question too, how to repartition the emmc? searched the forum but couldn't find a tutorial. it seems only way to do that is open up the tablet, take the emmc out and repartition it the hard way can you help me with a more suitable solution?
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really, thats my question too, how to repartition the emmc? searched the forum but couldn't find a tutorial. it seems only way to do that is open up the tablet, take the emmc out and repartition it the hard way can you help me with a more suitable solution?
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Putting "repartition nook tablet" into Google gave me (as no.3 on the list of results) a "how to video" that is an illustration of this topic: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1531120
But honestly, you'll just gain a couple of GB to the 8 you already have. You probably want to keep around 2-3 GB for the user data and that leaves 12-13GB for "media". You already have 8GB and the option to use an sd card. Is it worth the bother if you're not that into this stuff?
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Putting "repartition nook tablet" into Google gave me (as no.3 on the list of results) a "how to video" that is an illustration of this topic: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1531120
But honestly, you'll just gain a couple of GB to the 8 you already have. You probably want to keep around 2-3 GB for the user data and that leaves 12-13GB for "media". You already have 8GB and the option to use an sd card. Is it worth the bother if you're not that into this stuff?
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I agree with you. It is best to leave it alone. 5.3GBs is plentyyy of space for apps. I am actually only using 200MB of space for apps right now and I have Firefox and a FTP server app. Besides, I can use the 7.5GBs of space as a data partition, I can, for example, copy over my music and PDF files to that partition.
I also have a 16GB microsd card also in the nook tablet, so I am not in dire need of space anyways lol XD
I shall mark this thread solved
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Putting "repartition nook tablet" into Google gave me (as no.3 on the list of results) a "how to video" that is an illustration of this topic: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1531120
But honestly, you'll just gain a couple of GB to the 8 you already have. You probably want to keep around 2-3 GB for the user data and that leaves 12-13GB for "media". You already have 8GB and the option to use an sd card. Is it worth the bother if you're not that into this stuff?
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mine has 11 GB as /data ,media partition is not there for some reason i figured that 3-4 gb is more than enough for apps, i want the rest in sdcard0
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mine has 11 GB as /data ,media partition is not there for some reason i figured that 3-4 gb is more than enough for apps, i want the rest in sdcard0
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This proibably means yours hasn't been through the BN reparttition scheme. If you've got a BN store nearby they can repartition it for you to the 5 GB Data and 8GB Media or whatever it's called (where you store your own stuff). If you (like me) don't have the option to do that you can run the repart.img dexcribed in this topic http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1663836 yourself to get those partitions. Topic doesn't say it's for repartition, but the repart.img sure does that!
Edit: Or maybe I misunderstand you. Maybe you have a device that has been repartitioned "manually", giving you 11GB for your own storage? Cause I donät recognize the number 11. In that case you do NOT want to do any more repartitioning!!
I have a hipstreet phoenix tablet running jb 4.2.2 and would like to flash ustom rom and or kernal. im havig issues with low space due to apps only install on internal 1gb sytem memory and not the 16gb internal sdcard or my external sd. i have rooted and installed apps2sd but it doesnt move the whole file only part of it. also bluetooth diconects at screen shutoff wich i hear is a problom with 4.2.2. i would like to be able to have a custom kernal to help manage ram better and hopefully find a way to have apps nativly ran from internal 16gb and not the 1gb system memory. any help on this wold be great. i dont want to brick my tablet
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I have a hipstreet phoenix tablet running jb 4.2.2 and would like to flash ustom rom and or kernal. im havig issues with low space due to apps only install on internal 1gb sytem memory and not the 16gb internal sdcard or my external sd. i have rooted and installed apps2sd but it doesnt move the whole file only part of it. also bluetooth diconects at screen shutoff wich i hear is a problom with 4.2.2. i would like to be able to have a custom kernal to help manage ram better and hopefully find a way to have apps nativly ran from internal 16gb and not the 1gb system memory. any help on this wold be great. i dont want to brick my tablet
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Same problem any help?
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yea. same problom. im asuming i could still flash a custom rom and keep the kernal stock but whats the point. this tablet has quite a few issues that are quite annoying. im glad i didnt pay full price for it.
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I have a hipstreet phoenix tablet running jb 4.2.2 and would like to flash ustom rom and or kernal. im havig issues with low space due to apps only install on internal 1gb sytem memory and not the 16gb internal sdcard or my external sd. i have rooted and installed apps2sd but it doesnt move the whole file only part of it. also bluetooth diconects at screen shutoff wich i hear is a problom with 4.2.2. i would like to be able to have a custom kernal to help manage ram better and hopefully find a way to have apps nativly ran from internal 16gb and not the 1gb system memory. any help on this wold be great. i dont want to brick my tablet
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I've been trying to figure out just how to root this thing. I picked one up on sale, and while limited, it seems alright for the price. That 1GB app install storage partition is super annoying though. I'm willing ti live with it but only if I can root the thing... What method did you use to root it???
I used Kingo root, you have to install the SDK drivers and roots it. I've installed xposed moduals they work fine as well. Where I'm stuck is how to install a custom recovery like cwm or twrp. Any help on this from someone would be appreciated. Not much info for this tablet. On a side note is there any cm ROMs for this tab.
For what it's worth, I was eventually able to root the thing without having to locate a compatible ROM by using a free windows application called MoboGenie .. once the program is installed and loaded on your Windows PC, connect the device via USB, and give it about 5-10 minutes to find and install the driver it needs (MoboGenie did this all automatically, just took a little time). Once it does, it should start populating the screen with details about the connected device. In the Toolbox section (down the left side), there is a "Root" button. Click it and then confirm and it pushes SU onto the device automatically... Takes about 2 minutes. Then you disconnect the device and reboot it... After that, it's persistently rooted! You can even unroot by following the same steps in MoboGenie (if you click on "Root" again and confirm, it simply removes the root from the device - too easy!)
I tried it (just for fun) with a Samsung Note 3, but MoboGenie could not root that device, so clearly its powers are limited; however it works perfectly with the Hipstreet Phoenix, so I'm happy
MoboGenie link: www_mobogenie_com
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Oh and to help conserve precious app data space, I found that, after rooting, the Lucky Patcher app does a seamless job of moving app data "to sd card" which basically results in moving the data to the larger partition. You can do this as a batch action in Lucky Patcher, or one by one.
One note though - I foolishly bought a 32GB microSD card to leave in the tablet full time, but the tablet unmounts the damn thing pretty much any time it's put on standby, and you have to deliberately tell it to mount the card every time you want to use it. This means it's hopeless for putting app data onto a microSD card on these tablets... which sucks, but oh well.
Next time, I'm buying a Samsung Galaxy Note tablet... they're by far the best tablets (and phones) on the market, and though they're not cheap, you definitely get what you pay for!
I have a new problem, I modifiedcthe build prop Noe I'm stuckbij a boot loop. Anyone know where to download the ROM and flash tool for this tablet
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I have a new problem, I modifiedcthe build prop Noe I'm stuckbij a boot loop. Anyone know where to download the ROM and flash tool for this tablet
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That's why I ended up using Mobogenie -- couldn't find a ROM that worked with it.
On a side note, the first Phoenix tablet I had, after rooting with Mobogenie, I used Android Tuner and applied the Partition Trim function.. it seemed to work until I rebooted the device and it went into an infinite boot loop. Seems the device is REALLY easy to corrupt, and the trim effectively bricked it. I contacted Hipstreet and got them to replace it under warrantee (cost me nothing, too). Just if you DO go that route, don't mention what you did, just tell them it bricked itself.
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That's why I ended up using Mobogenie -- couldn't find a ROM that worked with it.
On a side note, the first Phoenix tablet I had, after rooting with Mobogenie, I used Android Tuner and applied the Partition Trim function.. it seemed to work until I rebooted the device and it went into an infinite boot loop. Seems the device is REALLY easy to corrupt, and the trim effectively bricked it. I contacted Hipstreet and got them to replace it under warrantee (cost me nothing, too). Just if you DO go that route, don't mention what you did, just tell them it bricked itself.
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Ok
1st off I just bought my 1st tablet and it was this one. I instantly fell in love with it thinking I had found some great deal. Then after having it for about a week I started getting the insufficient storage message. I was about to return it when I found this thread. I used mobogenie to root it. THIS WAS SO EASY especially since I'm a noob. I installed lucky patcher from google play store but it didnt give me the option to move to sd card. So I used Link2SD. Which works fine on all the apps I have downloaded but not the apps native to the OS.
So my questions are
How do I get rid of the apps native to the OS? And/or move them to the external SD which the device calls NAND flash.
Even with moving the apps to SD which is the partitioned storage space(NAND Flash) I can only download apps to the limited internal storage before I can then move them using LinkSD. So say I want to download hearthstone which is 707 mb, and too large for the internal storage space. Is there a way to download it to the NAND Falsh section directly?
I also bought a external 64GB sd card cause one of my friends said that would fix the problem. How do I download a large game directly to that with this Tablet?
Am I asking too much of this tablet? Should I just keep it for a bit to get used to tablets then upgrade to a more expensive monster in a few months? Im having so much fun so far messing with it I kind of just it to be my Frankenstein and play with it till it breaks......errr I mean Bricks.
Please help me get my nerd on,
Im officially a enthusiast
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How do I get rid of the apps native to the OS? And/or move them to the external SD which the device calls NAND flash.
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I use TitaniumBackup with my rooted device. It makes freezing, detaching from market (so they won't update themelves), and removing system apps really easy.
KindBob said:
Even with moving the apps to SD which is the partitioned storage space(NAND Flash) I can only download apps to the limited internal storage before I can then move them using LinkSD. So say I want to download hearthstone which is 707 mb, and too large for the internal storage space. Is there a way to download it to the NAND Falsh section directly?
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I have found no ways to re-allocate the app space partition and yeah, large apps are never going to install, but smaller apps seem to work as long as we move to SD immediately after any installs or updates.
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I also bought a external 64GB sd card cause one of my friends said that would fix the problem. How do I download a large game directly to that with this Tablet?
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You cannot. I did the same thing, but I find you have to MANUALLY mount the SD card every time you want to access it - as soon as you put it to sleep, it unmounts the damn external card. This makes it USELESS for app installs... just data like videos, music, etc... even then, it's a pain.
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Am I asking too much of this tablet? Should I just keep it for a bit to get used to tablets then upgrade to a more expensive monster in a few months? Im having so much fun so far messing with it I kind of just it to be my Frankenstein and play with it till it breaks......errr I mean Bricks.
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Sadly, yes I think so... I like mine, too, but compared to my Note 2 phone, it's a little pathetic
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You cannot. I did the same thing, but I find you have to MANUALLY mount the SD card every time you want to access it - as soon as you put it to sleep, it unmounts the damn external card. This makes it USELESS for app installs... just data like videos, music, etc... even then, it's a pain.
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Thank you so much!
I dont seem to be having this problem with SD card mounting though
KindBob said:
Thank you so much!
I dont seem to be having this problem with SD card mounting though
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You're lucky then I contacted support through that lame-ass support app that only sometimes connects to their system, and was told point-blank that there is no way to re-allocate the install space (the 1gb area) to make more basic room.
In the end, I disabled all automatic Play updating for all apps (I check and apply them manually instead, as it eats precious install space.) I use LuckyPatcher for moving all app to SD one installed, and TitaniumBackup to remove unnecessary pre-installed stuff. Bummer is, no big games, ever..
Hello all.
I am having the same issues.
I have a 16GB Phoenix Hipstreet, stuck in a boot loop.
I can't load TWRP or anything else, as I am a novice user..
However, that program MOBOGENIE sounds like what I need, however after searching everywhere, I can't find a trust worthy looking source to download, as many have been de-listed due to not being supported or something anymore.
This sounds like it would fix my problems in a heart beat.
Does any one have access to an installer?
I've tried all I can think of.
Thanks in advance.