Hello, I'm new to the HTC Rezound forum. I have a Droid Charge that is irking me badly with call problems, so Verizon is allowing me to get a Spectrum, Razr, Bionic, or Rezound.
The displays of the Razr and Bionic totally rule out using those phones (can't stand pentile.)
This leaves the Spectrum or the Rezound.
My intuition tells me the HTC Rezound is the better phone.
I consider many factors:
battery life, speed, development, reliability, call quality (headphone jack quality isn't much concern, I have another phone with good HP out), radio quality.
3G reliability in low coverage areas is definitely a concern.
One thing I really like about the Droid Charge is the ability to go back to total stock, is this a problem on the Rezound?
If anybody has any thoughts, I'd love to hear them.
I'm all ears, thanks!
i just got the rezound and i am loving it. HTC usually has better build quality overall in my opinion
Id go for the Rezound. Quality is better and rezound has a nice community.
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xdadevnube said:
Hello, I'm new to the HTC Rezound forum. I have a Droid Charge that is irking me badly with call problems, so Verizon is allowing me to get a Spectrum, Razr, Bionic, or Rezound.
The displays of the Razr and Bionic totally rule out using those phones (can't stand pentile.)
This leaves the Spectrum or the Rezound.
My intuition tells me the HTC Rezound is the better phone.
I consider many factors:
battery life, speed, development, reliability, call quality (headphone jack quality isn't much concern, I have another phone with good HP out), radio quality.
3G reliability in low coverage areas is definitely a concern.
One thing I really like about the Droid Charge is the ability to go back to total stock, is this a problem on the Rezound?
If anybody has any thoughts, I'd love to hear them.
I'm all ears, thanks!
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They have basically the same hardware with the spectrum having a bigger screen so it's mostly preferance, IMO the spectrum is quite ugly and the UI looks like it was made in paint. Also I've heard that the ui slows the phone down a TON. The rezound will most likely have more development. Can't say much about battery life except that if you flash some of the custom Roms in here you can get some insane battery
I too came from the charge, although I bought mine... But anywhoo the rezound is so much better, I can't believe it sometimes. The only thing I miss on my old charge is the Super Amoled screen. But aside from that, this phone is just top notch.
Thanks for the input guys. I'm thinking the Rezound is probably the way to go, I'm excited to use ICS and have working VPN!
So it isn't hard to return this device to pure stock if I need to right?
I'm a total Rezound noob, and I haven't done my homework on it yet.
@Dalamar1320
How are you getting along with the display? I like the Charge display, of course, but do you feel like you're missing much? I stared at the Rezound for a while- I thought for LCD it looks pretty good. The pixel density and resolution is great, but coming from the deep blacks and rich colors of the Charge, do you find it lacks much?
*EDIT* Okay, I found that the pure stock cannot be achieved-- bootloader will show status as re-locked
xdadevnube said:
Thanks for the input guys. I'm thinking the Rezound is probably the way to go, I'm excited to use ICS and have working VPN!
So it isn't hard to return this device to pure stock if I need to right?
I'm a total Rezound noob, and I haven't done my homework on it yet.
@Dalamar1320
How are you getting along with the display? I like the Charge display, of course, but do you feel like you're missing much? I stared at the Rezound for a while- I thought for LCD it looks pretty good. The pixel density and resolution is great, but coming from the deep blacks and rich colors of the Charge, do you find it lacks much?
*EDIT* Okay, I found that the pure stock cannot be achieved-- bootloader will show status as re-locked
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you can back to stock once they are done with s-off.
The Rezound blows the Spectrum away in development and most likely battery.
You can't go back to total stock until we get S-OFF but pretty close.
Rezound also has one of the best signals in a phone I've seen.
Spectrum has been out for quite some time and still has no forum on XDA. Rezound does have a ton more pixels in it's display which means a clearer display than the spectrum but that could be personal preference.
I'm absolutely loving the Rezound, and believe or not, but sense 3.6 is pretty nice. The phone runs very smooth. The screen is amazing.
I came from a Droid Charge also (although I absolutely LOVED mine after it was all tricked out with custom ROM/Kernel etc). My Wife has the Charge now & she is very happy with it.
I absolutely LOVE the Rezound running the setup in my sig, but I do slightly miss that awesome Charge screen. I use HDMI everyday & that works awesome.
I liked the way the Charge screen is wider, that makes web browsing in portrait easier.
I do miss the deep blacks of the charge screen. But overall its not enough to make me look back
both of them are great phone.
I was on Spectrum, and now I have rezound.
spectrum has better screen (Ah-IPS LCD) and larger (4.5 inch).
I compared those two, spectrum won.
Spectrum is thinner and lighter.
I like my rezound but I cannot say rezound is not bulky.
This is what I do not like on my rez. heavy and bulky.
hardware is same. 1.5g s3 snapdragon, 1gb ram...
Spectrum has less internal space.
spectrum has only 2gb while rez has 16gb.
that's not a big deal since we can switch external sd card.
Spectrum is more laggy.
I was using it when rooting was not released, so i do not know it has better response when bloatware is removed.
but just when I used it, it was very laggy.
the last thing.. I came to rezound because of this reason.
there is NOT spectrum forum in XDA.
no devs, no custom roms, no tweaks.. nothing!
only rooting is available in rootzwiki.
oh, there's one serious bug on spectrum for me.
I always listen to music via bluetooth with my phone.
With spectrum, EVERY TIME, I have to manually connect bluetooth.
I have to get in bluetooth setting menu, and click the bt device on the list.
so annoying!
all of the other phones are not like that.
once connected (registered), they automatically connect each other.
if you do not use bt, it will not a big problem on spectrum.
What did they say in the LG forum?
Thanks for all the input, guys. I ended up with the Rezound. It will be here tomorrow. I figured the display on the Spectrum might eclipse the Rezound. I have heard mixed opinions on the display, with some saying they prefer the Rezound display. I didn't actually go into a Verizon store to find out myself. I have looked at the Rezound display quite a bit, but not the Spectrum.
I thought I was trippin' when I couldn't find a Spectrum forum on XDA, lol. The way I look at it, I still have a Charge with the nice SAMOLED+ display. This go around I want a phone that has reliable radios and is fast. I heard about the lag issues on the Spectrum, which would probably be possible to fix with software if there were development support. Coming from the Charge, it will be a fresh breath of air to have a larger development community (love the Charge community, but it just isn't that big).
I actually had lost nearly all interest in phones because I couldn't find anything else to improve my Charge (and my upgrade isn't until next year). I've tried just about every ROM, kernel, radio, and recovery available. I also have tried many scripts, overclocking, schedulers, governors, etc. It still lags out on occasion.
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I edited out my annoying nube questions. Thanks for all the help guys.
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I currently own the Droid Charge and owned the DX before it. The DX was the best device I've ever owned and sold it for the Charge right before Verizon switched over to tiered data plans, so I could lock in the unlimited data.
Anyway, while I like the Charge I don't love it like I did the DX, for a number of reasons. The AMOLED screen is nice but is too fake, the colors are too vivid. I liked the more "natural" screen on the DX. The build quality of the Charge is a disappointment, feels too cheap, while both the X and X2 feel very solid and well built. The call quality on the Charge is ok... nowhere near as clear as the DX. The power button on the side is very strange, I'm used to it being on the top of the phone like the X and the Incredible before that. The usable RAM on the Charge is only 327 MB, and I've hit this mark several times, whereas I've only hit the maximum RAM allowance on the DX once and it was while testing the ApeX ROM.
Now, the only advantage the Charge has over the X2, yes I know, is LTE. But here's the thing... While 4G is fast and enjoyable, it is only so if you have 4G data signal. I live in Fairfax, VA, outside of DC and it's considered a 4G area, but my 4G connections aren't always that great. Heck, even if I set it to 3G only it still drops out to 1X or nothing at all, just voice only. The 4G-3G handoff is slow as well. I still think Verizon's LTE network is too new at this point and needs to be further enhanced, and better LTE radios installed before it will be very close to 100% reliable. Not only that, but if I'm at home using my phone I can just connect it to wifi, otherwise I have slight to moderate normal data use when I'm out and about, so the speed isn't a deciding factor for me.
I've heard good and bad things about the screen on the X2, and I can vouch for some of them as well. The first time I handled the X2 I was very disappointed at the pixelation of the screen, but for some reason the model I handled this past weekend wasn't as pixelated, and seemed to be ok for me. The colors aren't too cartoonish like the AMOLED screens, but they are rich enough, not washed out like other LCD screens. The only thing that I'm disappointed with is the removal of the camera button... WTF is with that?
So, I'm trying to decide on what to do. I'm still within the 90 return period from Costco so I can take the phone back and do the difference between price. Of course I could always wait for the Bionic to come out, but by that time, there will be another phone with a much better LTE radio and many more upgrades will be on the market.
Anyone a former Charge owner that defected to the X2? Anyone have any opinions or suggestions?
I took the warranty replacement of the Fascinate when it was offered last month. So while I didn't come from the charge, the Fascinate has the Amoled screen and really isn't all that different from the charge. Which is why I ended up on the X2. Samsung just left a rotten taste in my mouth with their software and build quality. I just hated the idea of getting another Samsung right now. I also could have gotten the Incredible 2 but it just felt to small and I didn't like the screen.
As for the screen on the DX2, I have zero issues with it coming from an amoled to this. sure, its not as vibrant. So what, its a phone. If it was a TV I would have been extremely picky but I don't think there's anything wrong with the screen at all. So with that and the fact that everyone I ever talked to or heard of loved the OG DX I took the plunge.
That said the build and call quality of the DX2 is phenominal in my opinion. Yes Blur kinda sucks but until more roms come out its nothing your favorite launcher can't fix. GB runs pretty good even stock but you can easily install the pre-rooted GB that is out and remove what you don't want with no issue. Honestly I love my DX2, and I'm picky as hell.
Orange Terror said:
I took the warranty replacement of the Fascinate when it was offered last month. So while I didn't come from the charge, the Fascinate has the Amoled screen and really isn't all that different from the charge. Which is why I ended up on the X2. Samsung just left a rotten taste in my mouth with their software and build quality. I just hated the idea of getting another Samsung right now. I also could have gotten the Incredible 2 but it just felt to small and I didn't like the screen.
As for the screen on the DX2, I have zero issues with it coming from an amoled to this. sure, its not as vibrant. So what, its a phone. If it was a TV I would have been extremely picky but I don't think there's anything wrong with the screen at all. So with that and the fact that everyone I ever talked to or heard of loved the OG DX I took the plunge.
That said the build and call quality of the DX2 is phenominal in my opinion. Yes Blur kinda sucks but until more roms come out its nothing your favorite launcher can't fix. GB runs pretty good even stock but you can easily install the pre-rooted GB that is out and remove what you don't want with no issue. Honestly I love my DX2, and I'm picky as hell.
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My girlfriend has the Fascinate and you can definitely see the pixelation of the older SAMOLED technology, but the Charge has the SAMOLED Plus which doesn't look as bad. But a lot of GS2 owners are complaining about burn-in and other screen related issues, and I went through two replacement Charges with those exact issues.
I honestly should have gotten the TBolt instead of the Charge, especially with a lot of the kinks worked out in it, but I still want something reliable, that's the most important part. My DX was damn reliable, only had one major issue with it and that was the first time I SBF'ed 2.2 back onto it. As I said, 4G is not a deal breaker for me. When the LTE network is better on both the phones and the network then I'll fork out the money and buy one at retail as long as it's worth it. But until then I want something solid, reliable, clear and fast.
Can X2 owners attest to those main points?
You won't be disappointed with the call quality, speed and reliability. The speed requires rooting and a bit of time in the development section, but I'm happy now. Coming from a DX it feels like home.
Check your PM's triton if your interested let me know
The X2 is kind of lack luster out of the box, but rooted and tweaked it becomes a serious little power house. It just depends on your preference. I love modding my phone so the out of the box performance means nothing to me. The potential is defiantly there, it just needs a good bloat cleaning and a few other tweaks.
Sent from OH MY GOD IS THAT A SQUIRREL!
Thanks folks.
Is it true that even though it has 512 MB of RAM like the X did, it uses DDR memory instead for faster speeds? How's the graphics processing on the X2? I remember getting in the high 20 FPS range with Neocore with the X.
Having come from HTC devices, both Android and, I kno... WinMo 6.1 I have come to love the DX2. Yes there is a lack of development at the moment, but that will change... The graphics on the DX2 are pretty amazing. I get high 40's to 50's in Quadrant on the 2D and 3D video tests. I had never owned a Motorola device before but the phone is solid. I have never held a phone that feels as solid as this one. As stated by others rooting and debloating the phone will make a major difference in speed, stability, reliability, and the overall feel of the phone functionality. I have no problem waiting on development because when it does come there is a load of potential packed away in the deep dark of this phone...
EDIT:: 54.6 on Neocore, 60FPS max in Quadrant, and 52.47FPS in Antutu while on maximum battery saver BTW....
Not bad at all.
Any other X2 owners that came from the Charge?
I've played with the Charge, the Incredible 2, and now the Droid X2. Personally, I think the Droid X2 is awesome. Technically is superior to the Charge except for 4G, because it obviously doesn't have it. The only thing outside of 4G that people question is the screen, and to be perfectly honest, I think it's really nice. I don't even miss SAMOLED. The Droid X2 screen is just so sharp and crisp.
What you need is a comparison, and PDADB is perfect for that. Here is a link to technology comparison between the Droid Charge and the Droid X2. How can you say no to dual-core Cortex A9 processors and a GeForce GPU in your phone? You really can't. Don't be discouraged by the dev community, because it is just getting started. When the Droid X2 gets more and more dev support, it will be awesome. That's why I'm here, to help with that
What exactly is this "3Gturbo" tweak I keep reading about?
How many people said to themselves "Don't do it" when they saw this thread? :0)
Sorry if this is a dumb question. I keep seeing people talk about tiered data plans. Verizon does not have those. I've been checking and I actually would love to switch to save money but there is no such option. What are you all talking about? ??
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See the middle of this page:
http://www.verizonwireless.com/b2c/plans/?page=single
So... I went down to the local Costco where I bought my Charge and they have a live X2 to play around with. After a fresh reboot, I tested it out and the screen really isn't as bad as I thought. Everything (except Blur of course) was very quick and smooth, voice calls sounded clear. I did a SpeedTest run, only one of those tests resulted in less than 1 mb/sec download, and the last one jumped up to 2.4 mb/sec download with 750k upload speed, pretty damn good for a 3G phone. I put the Charge in 3G only and it couldn't come close.
So needless to say, the Charge will be going back sometime this week and exchanged for the X2. The guy at the Wireless kiosk gave me a weird look when I said I was going to come back and get the X2 instead. I told him "I have my reasons" and smiled.
triton302 said:
So... I went down to the local Costco where I bought my Charge and they have a live X2 to play around with. After a fresh reboot, I tested it out and the screen really isn't as bad as I thought. Everything (except Blur of course) was very quick and smooth, voice calls sounded clear. I did a SpeedTest run, only one of those tests resulted in less than 1 mb/sec download, and the last one jumped up to 2.4 mb/sec download with 750k upload speed, pretty damn good for a 3G phone. I put the Charge in 3G only and it couldn't come close.
So needless to say, the Charge will be going back sometime this week and exchanged for the X2. The guy at the Wireless kiosk gave me a weird look when I said I was going to come back and get the X2 instead. I told him "I have my reasons" and smiled.
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Awesome, welcome aboard. The more brains the merrier.
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Odd when I log into my account those data plans are not available. Anyway what a rip off, $30 for 2gig a month. At&t data plans are more reasonable.
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Made it official today... returned the Charge and picked up my new Droid X2, with $100 back in my pocket as I was refunded the difference in price. So far so good, screen takes some getting used to but I'm glad to be back to a screen with more natural colors rather than the cartoonish AMOLED colors. Very well built just like the original X I had, miss the camera button though. Updated to Gingerbread and it's running just fine, call quality is much better than the Charge.
Can't wait to get cracking on the modding!
Ok so I can't wait any longer for the Galaxy Nexus, I need a new phone now, and I'm considering switching carriers.
I need to make a decision soon! Rezound vs Razr? I know I'm in a rezound forum, lol...but I'm hoping to get some unbiased opinions.
Battery life? Screen performance under sun? GPS performance (very important)? Thickness of phone, weight, etc? Locked bootloader? Development support? Manufacturer upgrade history...I want ICS on this!
Also, anything I should know about Verizon itself. Their billing practices? Customer service? network?
Thank you all!
the only thing the RAZR has going for it over the Rezound is just it's look(physically), but spec-wise the Rezound is a superior device. not to mention if you have good eye sight, you will notice this weird 'fuzz' around text & icons on the screen of the RAZR due to it's inferior display.
as for verizon in general, the service is really good, but they sure are pricey as hell & their voice plans suck(as do the new tiered data plans). i'm only here because i got on while they still had the unlimited data.
Rezound.
"Thinness" is the only advantage the Razr has and it actually makes it less comfortable. The rezound fits in hand like a glove.
The motoblur razr isn't in the same league as the Rezound. Read the reviews.
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Rezound.
"Thinness" is the only advantage the Razr has and it actually makes it less comfortable. The rezound fits in hand like a glove.
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heh.. i wish the rezound was bigger. i'm hoping seidio or mugen will release some gigantic 5000mAh+ battery that at least doubles the thickness of it.
voxigenboy said:
heh.. i wish the rezound was bigger. i'm hoping seidio or mugen will release some gigantic 5000mAh+ battery that at least doubles the thickness of it.
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It's pretty beefy with the OEM extended battery.
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It's pretty beefy with the OEM extended battery.
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I went to Verizon today to compare these phones. The employees there are so stupid. These people are there for 8 hrs everyday, can't they take the time to learn about the phones?
Anyways, I left more confused than ever. I can't decide which phone I want!! Two things that worry me about the Rezound are battery life and having a non-amoled screen. My Vibrant is an Amoled, and honestly I LOVE THE SCREEN. Even though it is low resolution, the contrast ratio, deep blacks, and visibility under sunlight is amazing. I'm worried the non-amoled screen of Rezound is not going to make me happy. Sure the Rezound is higher resolution but I'm willing to give up resolution for amazing contrast ratio and visibility under the sun.
Ahhh I can't decide!
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I went to Verizon today to compare these phones. The employees there are so stupid. These people are there for 8 hrs everyday, can't they take the time to learn about the phones?
Anyways, I left more confused than ever. I can't decide which phone I want!! Two things that worry me about the Rezound are battery life and having a non-amoled screen. My Vibrant is an Amoled, and honestly I LOVE THE SCREEN. Even though it is low resolution, the contrast ratio, deep blacks, and visibility under sunlight is amazing. I'm worried the non-amoled screen of Rezound is not going to make me happy. Sure the Rezound is higher resolution but I'm willing to give up resolution for amazing contrast ratio and visibility under the sun.
Ahhh I can't decide!
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Did you play around with the RAZR at all? If I hold it about 1ft away from my face I can see this weird fuzz around the txt & icons. It's enough that it screws with my eyes and makes me feel like somethings wrong with them & have to rub them... Even at 2ft away I can still barely see the fuzz. Oddly, some people say they don't notice it, others do & then people who've said the screen gave them a headache for the 1st day or two until they 'adjusted' to it.... LOL
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Did you play around with the RAZR at all? If I hold it about 1ft away from my face I can see this weird fuzz around the txt & icons. It's enough that it screws with my eyes and makes me feel like somethings wrong with them & have to rub them... Even at 2ft away I can still barely see the fuzz. Oddly, some people say they don't notice it, others do & then people who've said the screen gave them a headache for the 1st day or two until they 'adjusted' to it.... LOL
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I didn't notice any fuzz around texts. Great now I have to go back tomorrow and look, lol!
I'll try to go tomorrow and compare the phones again, I'll keep an eye out for the fuzz.
The Razr felt uncomfrotable in my hands, the Rezound felt comfy. The Razr screen just kept me going back to it though, I'm a sucker for Super Amoled, enough so that I am willing to give up higher resolution screens for it. Deep rich blacks, vibrant colors, excellent visibility under the sun, I guess I'm hooked on sAmoled.
Agh I don't know, I'm more confused than ever, darn you Nexus for not being available already.
I'm leaning towards the Rezound though. Mainly because it doesn't have a locked bootloader. I'm thinking that means more dev support in the future.
I don't know
Oh one last thing. sAmoleds have this anti-glare coating, it's like a blue tinted coating. Anyway...I noticed under the store lights at verizon the Rezound had major glare off the screen just from the lights in the store, but the Razr had very little glare. Thinking this might be a problem for me under the sun.
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I didn't notice any fuzz around texts. Great now I have to go back tomorrow and look, lol!
I'll try to go tomorrow and compare the phones again, I'll keep an eye out for the fuzz.
The Razr felt uncomfrotable in my hands, the Rezound felt comfy. The Razr screen just kept me going back to it though, I'm a sucker for Super Amoled, enough so that I am willing to give up higher resolution screens for it. Deep rich blacks, vibrant colors, excellent visibility under the sun, I guess I'm hooked on sAmoled.
Agh I don't know, I'm more confused than ever, darn you Nexus for not being available already.
I'm leaning towards the Rezound though. Mainly because it doesn't have a locked bootloader. I'm thinking that means more dev support in the future.
I don't know
Oh one last thing. sAmoleds have this anti-glare coating, it's like a blue tinted coating. Anyway...I noticed under the store lights at verizon the Rezound had major glare off the screen just from the lights in the store, but the Razr had very little glare. Thinking this might be a problem for me under the sun.
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Even if the Nexus was out I'd still chose the Rezound. First of all the RAZR has TERRIBLE battery life even w/ smart actions on. I was out and about using the phone (moderate usage) and I dropped from 100% to 20-30% battery life. This was about a week after using the phone, so there was plenty of time for it to break in and calibrate. The RAZR gets pretty hot too like 110-114 while streaming netflix, pretty uncomfortable. The colors are rich on the screen yes, but you can clearly see how pixelated the screen is thanks to the pentile sub-matrix. The Nexus also has the same issue with being on a pentile matrix (people have already complained about the screen). There are also speaker/audio problems on the Nexus, as well as sudden slowdowns that involve notifications. Plus the build of Samsung phones are just inferior to Moto and HTC IMO.
The Rezound is good so far, it has the highest clocked cpu/gpu out of the bunch. Even if the soc in it is "older" it easily keeps up and exceeds the RAZR and Nexus in some areas of performance, benching. I know the RAZR and Nexus handle java better than the Rezound though. I really think this has to do with Sense and it is a memory/cpu hog, and the fact that GB doesn't really support true HW acceleration could be another major factor in why a device of this caliber has slight issues w/ Sense. Just the app drawer and notifications, some lag on the browser but still ok. If you switch out for ADW EX or Go launcher etc this solves the app drawer and notifcation lag for the most part. It's not perfect but much better. Another issue w/ the Rezound atleast for me and a few others.. DEAD PIXELS/STUCK PIXELS on the screen . I'm on my second Rezound and I found a dead/stuck pixel on the screen. I even showed it to the rep instore that saw the first one, and she stated she didn't see it (obvious lie was obvious). I'll give it till tomorrow and if it doesn't clear up, I'm going to raise hell at another store. But overall I'd say the Rezound is still the clear winner here. Once it's on AOSP or a stripped down sense and ICS oh baby.
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Even if the Nexus was out I'd still chose the Rezound. First of all the RAZR has TERRIBLE battery life even w/ smart actions on. I was out and about using the phone (moderate usage) and I dropped from 100% to 20-30% battery life. This was about a week after using the phone, so there was plenty of time for it to break in and calibrate. The RAZR gets pretty hot too like 110-114 while streaming netflix, pretty uncomfortable. The colors are rich on the screen yes, but you can clearly see how pixelated the screen is thanks to the pentile sub-matrix. The Nexus also has the same issue with being on a pentile matrix (people have already complained about the screen). There are also speaker/audio problems on the Nexus, as well as sudden slowdowns that involve notifications. Plus the build of Samsung phones are just inferior to Moto and HTC IMO.
The Rezound is good so far, it has the highest clocked cpu/gpu out of the bunch. Even if the soc in it is "older" it easily keeps up and exceeds the RAZR and Nexus in some areas of performance, benching. I know the RAZR and Nexus handle java better than the Rezound though. I really think this has to do with Sense and it is a memory/cpu hog, and the fact that GB doesn't really support true HW acceleration could be another major factor in why a device of this caliber has slight issues w/ Sense. Just the app drawer and notifications, some lag on the browser but still ok. If you switch out for ADW EX or Go launcher etc this solves the app drawer and notifcation lag for the most part. It's not perfect but much better. Another issue w/ the Rezound atleast for me and a few others.. DEAD PIXELS/STUCK PIXELS on the screen . I'm on my second Rezound and I found a dead/stuck pixel on the screen. I even showed it to the rep instore that saw the first one, and she stated she didn't see it (obvious lie was obvious). I'll give it till tomorrow and if it doesn't clear up, I'm going to raise hell at another store. But overall I'd say the Rezound is still the clear winner here. Once it's on AOSP or a stripped down sense and ICS oh baby.
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Thanks for the insight. Is the bootloader locked or unlocked on the HTC Rezound? I keep reading 2 different things. I know for certain it is locked on Razr, but what about on Rezound?
Oh about the pentile sub-matrix...I own a Vibrant right now, it has a pentile sub-matrix at a lower resolution than that found on the Razr and I absolutely love it. Yes I see pixels, but the high contrast ratio, deep true blacks, vibrant colors and amazing visibility under the sun is amazing. I don't know I just personally think the negative comments about pentile are overblown.
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Thanks for the insight. Is the bootloader locked or unlocked on the HTC Rezound? I keep reading 2 different things. I know for certain it is locked on Razr, but what about on Rezound?
Oh about the pentile sub-matrix...I own a Vibrant right now, it has a pentile sub-matrix at a lower resolution than that found on the Razr and I absolutely love it. Yes I see pixels, but the high contrast ratio, deep true blacks, vibrant colors and amazing visibility under the sun is amazing. I don't know I just personally think the negative comments about pentile are overblown.
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Yeah the pentile sub-matrix wasn't too bad. The screen on the RAZR had beautiful colors, but the main concern was the pixelation was still fairly noticeable and there were black blobs on the screens sometimes during load screen. That only occured however if the screen was black/dark, it was "normal" to motorola. People have been complaining about the Nexus screen, but as in terms of color reproduction AMOLED will always be superior to LCD. I just wonder if all manufacterers going w/ AMOLED are going to be using pentile sub-matrixes now. I mean don't get me wrong the screen on the Rezound is awesome, amazing even (minus the stuck/dead pixel which seems to be going away thanks to the app on the market). I was watching a 1280 x 720p of an anime I'm watching Shakugan no Shana III final and it looked amazing. The playback was smooth eventhough it was .mkv. If you do get the Rezound I'd add a 3rd party launcher and you'd be good to go. The sense isn't that laggy, but it's definately not as smooth and as polished as 3.0 I think.
Edit: Woops forgot to mention! Yes there is no S-off at the moment, and only a temp root is available. But I'm sure that we will have S-off w/ custom roms and kernels.
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Yeah the pentile sub-matrix wasn't too bad. The screen on the RAZR had beautiful colors, but the main concern was the pixelation was still fairly noticeable and there were black blobs on the screens sometimes during load screen. That only occured however if the screen was black/dark, it was "normal" to motorola. People have been complaining about the Nexus screen, but as in terms of color reproduction AMOLED will always be superior to LCD. I just wonder if all manufacterers going w/ AMOLED are going to be using pentile sub-matrixes now. I mean don't get me wrong the screen on the Rezound is awesome, amazing even (minus the stuck/dead pixel which seems to be going away thanks to the app on the market). I was watching a 1280 x 720p of an anime I'm watching Shakugan no Shana III final and it looked amazing. The playback was smooth eventhough it was .mkv. If you do get the Rezound I'd add a 3rd party launcher and you'd be good to go. The sense isn't that laggy, but it's definately not as smooth and as polished as 3.0 I think.
Edit: Woops forgot to mention! Yes there is no S-off at the moment, and only a temp root is available. But I'm sure that we will have S-off w/ custom roms and kernels.
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What is s-off? Never heard of that in the Samsung Forums.
ps...why is it so dead in the verizon forums? The Rezound and Razr are new devices but the forums are so quiet. The forums for new phones on T-Mobile and At&t are crazy with lots of buzz for the first few months. I'm worried, those this mean Verizon phones get less development support from the community?
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What is s-off? Never heard of that in the Samsung Forums.
ps...why is it so dead in the verizon forums? The Rezound and Razr are new devices but the forums are so quiet. The forums for new phones on T-Mobile and At&t are crazy with lots of buzz for the first few months. I'm worried, those this mean Verizon phones get less development support from the community?
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s-off means that the NAND portion of the device is unlocked and can be written to. Simply put it will allow you to flash non HTC signed images, as well as obtain permanent root. Essentially it's the motorola equivilent of having an unlocked bootloader. TBH most of the people on Verizon probably don't even know there's even development for their phones. Half of the VZW customers are either old, the braindead and just have a smartphone and don't know how to use it if their lives depended on it. Or business users and average users that don't care about unlocking their phones or performance increase. We're probably what 5-10% of the VZW customer build up? There are quite a few devs that will support this phone, heck you should check the Thunderbolt forums. So many roms and active development, there's even CM7 and ICS (I think some unstable alpha build) for it. Just a matter of time before development picks up here, as the Rezound is still a new phone.
Yea I'm in the same boat as you. Been to the store a few times. Been leaning towards the rezound but bit concern about outside usage and durability (scratch resistance) of the screen. The three things that annoy me about the razr are not as comfortable; green tint (esp at off angles) and non-removable battery. Hum also I like the sense browser a lot better. Dolphin doesn't do nearly as good as a job at reformatting text when you tap zoom (its a little thing but the browser will be one of those frequently used apps).
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I went to Verizon today to compare these phones. The employees there are so stupid. These people are there for 8 hrs everyday, can't they take the time to learn about the phones?
Anyways, I left more confused than ever. I can't decide which phone I want!! Two things that worry me about the Rezound are battery life and having a non-amoled screen. My Vibrant is an Amoled, and honestly I LOVE THE SCREEN. Even though it is low resolution, the contrast ratio, deep blacks, and visibility under sunlight is amazing. I'm worried the non-amoled screen of Rezound is not going to make me happy. Sure the Rezound is higher resolution but I'm willing to give up resolution for amazing contrast ratio and visibility under the sun.
Ahhh I can't decide!
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Since I didn't see it posted here...
http://www.droid-life.com/2011/11/2...-galaxy-nexus-succeeds-down-flight-of-stairs/
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I didn't notice any fuzz around texts. Great now I have to go back tomorrow and look, lol!
I'll try to go tomorrow and compare the phones again, I'll keep an eye out for the fuzz.
The Razr felt uncomfrotable in my hands, the Rezound felt comfy. The Razr screen just kept me going back to it though, I'm a sucker for Super Amoled, enough so that I am willing to give up higher resolution screens for it. Deep rich blacks, vibrant colors, excellent visibility under the sun, I guess I'm hooked on sAmoled.
Agh I don't know, I'm more confused than ever, darn you Nexus for not being available already.
I'm leaning towards the Rezound though. Mainly because it doesn't have a locked bootloader. I'm thinking that means more dev support in the future.
I don't know
Oh one last thing. sAmoleds have this anti-glare coating, it's like a blue tinted coating. Anyway...I noticed under the store lights at verizon the Rezound had major glare off the screen just from the lights in the store, but the Razr had very little glare. Thinking this might be a problem for me under the sun.
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How much do you use your phone out in direct sunlight? That's never been a problem for me. I've always thought that lcd screens had a truer color reproduction to me, amoled always seemed cartoonish. I'd much rather have a 720p lcd screen where I can't see the pixels than an super amoled (not even plus) screen wear the text is fuzzy. Also, the razr has a greenish color tint when the screen brightness is turned down.
I won't use an android phone that I can't replace the battery on, period. All of them are battery suckers.
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Even if the Nexus was out I'd still chose the Rezound. First of all the RAZR has TERRIBLE battery life even w/ smart actions on. I was out and about using the phone (moderate usage) and I dropped from 100% to 20-30% battery life. This was about a week after using the phone, so there was plenty of time for it to break in and calibrate. The RAZR gets pretty hot too like 110-114 while streaming netflix, pretty uncomfortable. The colors are rich on the screen yes, but you can clearly see how pixelated the screen is thanks to the pentile sub-matrix. The Nexus also has the same issue with being on a pentile matrix (people have already complained about the screen). There are also speaker/audio problems on the Nexus, as well as sudden slowdowns that involve notifications. Plus the build of Samsung phones are just inferior to Moto and HTC IMO.
The Rezound is good so far, it has the highest clocked cpu/gpu out of the bunch. Even if the soc in it is "older" it easily keeps up and exceeds the RAZR and Nexus in some areas of performance, benching. I know the RAZR and Nexus handle java better than the Rezound though. I really think this has to do with Sense and it is a memory/cpu hog, and the fact that GB doesn't really support true HW acceleration could be another major factor in why a device of this caliber has slight issues w/ Sense. Just the app drawer and notifications, some lag on the browser but still ok. If you switch out for ADW EX or Go launcher etc this solves the app drawer and notifcation lag for the most part. It's not perfect but much better. Another issue w/ the Rezound atleast for me and a few others.. DEAD PIXELS/STUCK PIXELS on the screen . I'm on my second Rezound and I found a dead/stuck pixel on the screen. I even showed it to the rep instore that saw the first one, and she stated she didn't see it (obvious lie was obvious). I'll give it till tomorrow and if it doesn't clear up, I'm going to raise hell at another store. But overall I'd say the Rezound is still the clear winner here. Once it's on AOSP or a stripped down sense and ICS oh baby.
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I haven't heard of any screen complaints on the nexus, yes its pentile, but the pixels are so small, you are probably not going to see them.
I'm beginning to think that ICS is not a finished product. I've read several reviews where its just not as snappy as the GS2's, which is crazy. I'll stick with the rezound for now and htc, never been a fan of the plastic samsung builds.
We really need s-off so I can transfer all my game data over...
Just ordered my Rezound from amazon for a penny. Apparently back ordered but expected to ship by friday.
Back ordered now huh? ? Glad I got in early when I did...mine will be here tomorrow
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How much do you use your phone out in direct sunlight? That's never been a problem for me. I've always thought that lcd screens had a truer color reproduction to me, amoled always seemed cartoonish. I'd much rather have a 720p lcd screen where I can't see the pixels than an super amoled (not even plus) screen wear the text is fuzzy. Also, the razr has a greenish color tint when the screen brightness is turned down.
I won't use an android phone that I can't replace the battery on, period. All of them are battery suckers.
I haven't heard of any screen complaints on the nexus, yes its pentile, but the pixels are so small, you are probably not going to see them.
I'm beginning to think that ICS is not a finished product. I've read several reviews where its just not as snappy as the GS2's, which is crazy. I'll stick with the rezound for now and htc, never been a fan of the plastic samsung builds.
We really need s-off so I can transfer all my game data over...
Just ordered my Rezound from amazon for a penny. Apparently back ordered but expected to ship by friday.
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Main complains I've seen is the volume changing on it's own , poor audio quality and the screen's blue tinge. I looked at a HD review video and the Nexus did look pixelated, but will obviously leave final judgement about the screen when i see the phone in person. I will look at the bloated Nexus Prime and see what she can do.
Battery life?
I'm extremely impressed. I didn't want to hope it could possibly last an entire 10 hour work day on a single charge with what was sure to be a gas guzzling dual barrel 1.5GHz processor on the LTE network and the highest pixel density in the industry, but it does. And then some, on days when I can restrain from playing with it non stop.
Screen performance under sun?
As good (or bad) as anything else I've played with. Direct sunlight is a tough one.
GPS performance (very important)?
Maybe it's just that my point of comparison is an hTC EVO running CM7.1 but GPS lock is much, MUCH faster with this phone.
Thickness of phone, weight, etc?
Coming from the EVO (which is similarly sized), this actually looks/feels slightly smaller, and the backplate has a nice, confident feel in the hand.
Locked bootloader? Development support?
Still locked. It looks to be a popular hTC phone, though, so it should have Dev support as solid as the EVO 4G, DInc, etc.
Manufacturer upgrade history...I want ICS on this!
Historically, developers will beat hTC with platform updates by 3-6 months. I'd be surprised if Feb/March rolled around and we were still waiting on root and an ICS ROM.
Also, anything I should know about Verizon itself. Their billing practices? Customer service?
I've got experience with VZW, Sprint and AT&T Customer Service and they were all about the same. The only knowledgeable Customer Service employee I've ever spoken with was with Apple about ten years ago. Even they've declined now.
Network?
Oh man! Sprint coverage was absolutely awful at my house. 4G was sporadic throughout the city I live in (Winston-Salem, NC) and I would be lucky to get dialup speeds at my house. I harassed them for 9 months before they terminated my contract without penalty for excessive data roaming on other networks. Now I am getting 14000kbps in the metal office building that would run my EVO's battery down in two hours, trying to get a signal with Sprint!
VZW gets an A+ for the LTE network!
I was waiting for months for the Galaxy Nexus to come out.
I was using a Droid Charge that was all tweaked out (custom ROM, imoseyon 4.0 kernel, fuju tweaks, Launcher Pro Plus, etc etc etc) that I absolutely LOVED but my Wife wanted that phone and I had at least two lines with upgrades available.
I originally bought the Rezound with the full intention of returning it as soon as the Nexus came out. I have until January 15th to return it and I figured for sure the GN would be out by then. I had a RAZR briefly and absolutely hated it, so I passed it on to a coworker. She uses a phone for more of a cosmetic accessory than an actual tool, so the RAZR was perfect for her but I can't own a phone with four hour battery life and no removable battery.
Now that I have been using the Rezound for a while, I cant see any way I'm returning it. I absolutely love the thing. It's not perfect, I absolutely hate the
flush power button and like everyone else I would like to flash a custom ROM but the phone runs well enough stock that I can live with the stock ROM.
My Charge was almost as fast as the Rezound (mid 2000 quadrant scores) totally lag free and has a screen to die for. I was afraid I might be disappointed with the Rezound as it actually has a slightly smaller screen than the Charge and I do wish it was a little wider, but the Rezound kicks butt in every other way.
Comparing to the Charge, the Rezound GPS locks WAY faster and the radio is way better. The Charge swapped from 4g to 3g so often I had to leave it locked in 3G 99% of the time so it wouldn't kill the battery. I stream audio all day at work using either iheart radio or sirius online and the Charge could not make it through an entire workday on one battery even using the 3500 batteries.
The Rezound has been making it all day plus, doing the exact same things using a 2750 battery and leaving it in 4g all day. I also like the way HTC did the extended battery much better than the Charge setup. The curved back and a silicone cover make it seem like it came from the factory that way.
I have always liked Sense (except it annoys the hell out of me that landscape doesn't work with the home screen) and it runs great in this phone. I also installed Launcher Pro Plus and that REALLY runs well. I swap back and forth between the two when I get tired of one or the other.
After watching all the reviews of the GN and playing with a coworkers Galaxy I don't even want that phone anymore. I will still check it out if VZ ever actually releases it, but I can't imagine switching at this point.
~John
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I just finished playing with the Galaxy Nexus today and I wouldnt trade my rezound for it either. The Gnex is nice, has a nice screen but not as nice as the rezound. Overall feel I like the rezound although I will say the Gnex is a much lighter phone and that is one things i liked about it. I am not a fan of vanilla android though.
I came from a totally tweaked out charge too. But I am a teckie junkie. Got my rezound and I am loving it! Don't get me wrong...I loved the charge too, but the GPS and the camera really are awesome on the rezound. That right there had me sold. I actually like the crisp screen. Hubby has the continuum, I still find myself checking out his screen once in a while.
No regrets here whatsoever. The only thing I never really thought about was having to wait to root and customize this. I got the fascinate after it was out a few months, root access already gained. I got my charge in aug, and had it rooted within 2 days.
But the way this is running stock....personally, I feel that it is faster than the charge running stock.
Now if I could just change the fonts LOL
Quadrant scores mean nothing in terms of performance imo. I don't know why people/reviewers even bother to run it. The scores are easily manipulated and it's not an accurate gauge on how well a phone can run. I can agree running it for fun, but definately not as a "this score means this is how fast your phone will run". You must of have had a good Charge, I returned mine after using it for a few days. Only good thing about that phone was the screen, AMOLED is nice yes, but I feel the colors are too saturated and cartoony. I love the screen on this phone, and the Gnex doesn't have anything on it. The screen on Gnex has been reported as grainy and pixelated for text/browsing. Media they stated not so much of an issue. Now if the Gnex had Super AMOLED + HD instead of some pentile submatrix then it would be in business. But overall I feel this phone is higher quality than the Gnex.
I know that quadrant means little, I just post it because everyone else seems to.
When I say the Charge was damn near as fast as the Rezound that is after comparing the two side by side. I obviously got a good Charge and I'm sure there are some bad ones out there (name a phone that you can't say that about)
What is most important to me is camera quality, sound quality and screen quality. I'm sure the GN will have a nice screen but everything else seems like it will be second rate in the GN.
~John
I came from a "totally tweaked out" Thunderbolt and absolutely hated the thing a side from all the roms available(I enjoyed switching from rom to rom almost every day).
this Rezound is really nice, I just wish it was a bit bigger & didn't have sync issues playing 720P .mkv files.
p.s. I always hated Sense & hope to allah/god/supreme deity/etc that CM9 will come soon.
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I came from a "totally tweaked out" Thunderbolt and absolutely hated the thing a side from all the roms available(I enjoyed switching from rom to rom almost every day).
this Rezound is really nice, I just wish it was a bit bigger & didn't have sync issues playing 720P .mkv files.
p.s. I always hated Sense & hope to allah/god/supreme deity/etc that CM9 will come soon.
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You have issues playing 720p .mkv files? I had no synching issues while playing a 1280 x 720p mkv.
I currently have a Droid X2 and have enjoyed learning about rooting, custom roms, etc. My upgrade is approaching and I am thinking about getting the Rezound. I've briefly read through the posts here and it seems to be a good phone for development with multiple roms/scripts/mods.
I just wanted to see what you all thought of the phone. Pros & Cons. Any thoughts will be much appreciated. Hope you all have a blessed evening!
Started with the Inc1 at launch and debated between the Inc2 and Tbolt when they both came out. Went with the Inc2 because we didn't have 4G yet and the Inc2 is the perfect size for a phone. After half year I love the Inc 2 but wanted 4G and love to upgrade.
Anyway, love the Rezound. HTC always has problems with their soft keys but overall this is the best built HTC I've ever had. The Inc3 is coming in a few months. If it's 4G, 4" screen, and dual core I'm trading in my Rez.
You won't regret upgrading, I came from an Incredible 2 and I don't miss it at all.
Pros:
* 4G LTE - Crazy fast with great signal
* HD screen - Best display out there
* Tons of ROM's - There are a lot so far and development is just getting started
* Amazing camera - Best camera on any phone I have ever used
* 16GB of internal storage
* 1.5GHz dual core - Fastest dual core out there
* Made by HTC - build quality is incredible and the phone feels solid in your hand
Not so great stuff:
* Screen brightness - the screen isn't all that bright even at full brightness, but its still okay.
* Battery life - Its not great, but it will last an entire day if you use it wisely
Cons:
* External speaker - When playing music its quiet and sounds terrible
* Battery cover - Not really a super big deal, but it creaks a little bit and drives me crazy... yeah, I have mild OCD...
I would say its a good 9/10 phone. Its going to be a good upgrade from a Droid X2 if you decide to get it.
All valid points. Stock with LTE on and auto screen brightness I got 1 day 6 hours on one charge. I was pretty amazed. Regular usage I get maybe 10 hours and that time was light to medium use. Auto brightness keeps my screen pretty dark but at full brightness its insanely bright. Hurts the eyeballs
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* Battery cover - Not really a super big deal, but it creaks a little bit and drives me crazy... yeah, I have mild OCD...
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I took some small strips of electricians friction tape and put them under the battery cover in the spots my extended cover creaked. Fixed it right up.
Really the only thing that bothers me is the auto white balance in the camera isn't very good. I didn't notice it at first but in certain lighting conditions the pics come out with either a blue or orange tint. Selecting another setting will make them better but not always completely accurate. This is especially true for night time indoors where your light is from lamps. Hopefully an update will help this.
Battery life could be better but I expected as much. People are getting great battery life with custom ROMS and kernels now though. I have yet to get mine to be great but I suspect that the second hand of the clock widget I'm using is eating it up. Going to test that out soon.
I have to disagree with the negative comments on the following:
-screen brightness. Plenty bright for me. In fact, I keep mine at about 30% brightness.
-external speaker. considering what it is I find it to be fine. And honestly, for music you should use ear buds or plug it into the stereo! I do listen to podcasts/talk sometimes while I fall asleep and it's totally fine for that. I also use it whenever I talk on the phone as I won't hold it to my ear or use a bluetooth earpiece.
-creaking. I really don't notice any. People have put paper under the cover to get rid of it.
As far as what I love about it... everything! It's my first smartphone though so that might not mean much. But I did research for almost a year before buying it, constantly deciding to wait for the next phone that was coming out and I really think I made the right choice. No second guessing or regrets.
Oh yeah, and I put a 64gb card in and it works fine so another bonus! And yes, the screen is GORGEOUS. I'm amazed at the image quality on this thing.
And... it doesn't look like anyone mentioned that you can do voice and data at the same time! I was talking to a friend who told me about an app and a few minutes later I had it downloaded and installed while I was still talking on the phone!
p.s. Apparently it's also a global phone. There's still a few kinks being worked out but I believe that at this point voice and data are working, but possibly not texts. There's a thread about it though if you want to check up on it.
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Started with the Inc1 at launch and debated between the Inc2 and Tbolt when they both came out. Went with the Inc2 because we didn't have 4G yet and the Inc2 is the perfect size for a phone. After half year I love the Inc 2 but wanted 4G and love to upgrade.
Anyway, love the Rezound. HTC always has problems with their soft keys but overall this is the best built HTC I've ever had. The Inc3 is coming in a few months. If it's 4G, 4" screen, and dual core I'm trading in my Rez.
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Same here man, Eris, Inc1, and got Inc2 cos I thought the Tbolt was too big, and I got Inc2 loved it, and now Rezound is awesome, but Inc3 you say?? I would be all over that if it is 4g as well. I have an upgrade waiting for me in april
today is my first day with the Rezound, I just came from Sprint with the Evo 4G, and I'm really happy with it, though I'd be happy with almost anything on Verizion's 4G vs Sprint's 3G lol. Only complaint I'd have so far is the speaker isn't as good as u'd expect, but the sound with headphones is crazy. I think ull be happy with it
Yeah VZW had a meeting recently talking about upcoming phones. Inc3 was mentioned for similar release date as the last two. 4" screen, LTE, and global is all I know. Sounds like a winner to me. Rezound will be short lived for me if this is true.
Yeah depending on the source, I have to turn music down to about 50% volume when using the speaker, it is plenty loud. But I've heard one if the kernels messes with it so that might be the one users problem.
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Im sure this has been asked a lot, but there are some things I cant seem to find.
My major concerns are of course, the non expandable storage space, and the non removable battery.
The DNA is advertised to have 16 gigs of storage space. Is this the free space available out of the box? Or does the os use some of this space.
As for the battery, i do mostly texting and web browsing, some videos. Im usually driving or at my desk so it will likely be plugged in most of the time. This isnt a huge concern, but still a small issue.
If you have this phone, what dont you like about it?
Thanks for the input.
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A quick addition, for those who have had htc devices for a while, how are they with software updates? Coming from motorola, whos horrible, it would he nice to have a phone that gets updated accordingly.
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Out of the you'll have just a little over 11gb of storage to play with. As for battery life the DNA has surprised many by lasting most pretty much all day. Of course it depends how heavy you use it? You'll be more than fine with battery life with what you mentioned.
The DNA beats out the gs 3 in every way, except for the expandable storage. Once you debloat the phone you get more than 11 gigs. The battery is very good especially with cubed kernel
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I actually just got my s3 back from repairs and I plan to do a comparison video before selling it.
The DNA beats the gs3 in every way except for storage and some touchwiz features(palm screenshot, eye following, etc)
And the DNA has around 11 gigs available.
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i've got both, and i do love both.
i've always been an HTC man, from the eris, Inc, to the Rezound, and now a DNA. i've got a galaxy nexus, and an S3 as well.
the S3 has a great camera that right out of the box, point and shoot, looks amazing. with the DNA, as i found with most HTC devices, you have to do a little fine tuning to get pictures to come out well. the LED flash on the S3 is also much brighter than the DNA, which makes better flash-lowlight pics on the S3.
the S3, like all other samsung androids, doesn't have the best of service unfortunately. the nexus had bad service and would never pickup 4g, whereas my rezound had great service and would grab 4g no problem. i was in a new 4g area, so that could explain it, but the rezound would get it more often. the S3 picked up 4g much better than the nexus, but it's GPS antenna was AWFUL. my S3 would never lock on for me if i was inside any building, or hell, even a car. it was really bad...compared to my Nexus 7 which is INSTANT lock, and my DNA/Rezound which both locked really quick as well.
the call reception on the S3 was good, and sounded good, but the DNA def. beats it out. people say it sounds like i'm calling from a landline, thats how clear the DNA is.
in terms of battery life, my S3 would average around 14 hours with maybe 2 hours screen on time. when idling over night, i've gotten as much as 32 hours out of it before. the DNA, so far, seems to be almost identical. i pulled it off the charger at 5am this morning because i saw it was full, went back to sleep, and got up at like 10:30. it only dropped to 98% idling for 5 hours. considering the fact i have so much stuff synicng all the time and i was on 4G all night, that's pretty damn good!
the screen on the DNA is just amazing. the viewing angles are insanely good, and the screen is so close to the glass so it looks just amazing. the S3 has a great screen as well, although a bit more on the warm side and oversaturated sicne it's a super AMOLED.
the DNA has an amazing build quality factor here. HTC used like rounded off glass for the screen just like the S3, so your hand just glides over the edge. it doesn't have those horrible sharp corners old HTC phones had, like the rezound, where gunk and dust would get stuck in the gap and look horrible, and even worse, get dust under teh screen.
overall, the size of the DNA is fine. yeah, it's bigger than the S3 and def. feels it, but i can still do almost everything one handed on it. the S3 may seem a little bit quicker at first, which i simply attribute to touchwiz compared to sense, but overall, the DNA feels smoother.
i'm fortunate enough to be able to have all of these phones and keep them all. i'm loving the DNA, and i'll always have my galaxy nexus and S3 to switch between!
First let me say that I just came from a Samsung fasinate. I used it for two years stock and then rooted for two months. The GUI that Samsung uses is more intuitive IMO. And once rooted, opened my eyes to the plethera of settings/customization that can be done with a rooted phone. The options you get to p lay with on a stock DNA are limited. In fact some of the coolest features that JB has to offer are over written by HTC sence. I have had this phone since the day b4 thanksgiving, and it is way fast. The Screen is huge and beautiful. It is a great phone that will be better once I root it.
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i've got both, and i do love both.
i've always been an HTC man, from the eris, Inc, to the Rezound, and now a DNA. i've got a galaxy nexus, and an S3 as well.
the S3 has a great camera that right out of the box, point and shoot, looks amazing. with the DNA, as i found with most HTC devices, you have to do a little fine tuning to get pictures to come out well. the LED flash on the S3 is also much brighter than the DNA, which makes better flash-lowlight pics on the S3.
the S3, like all other samsung androids, doesn't have the best of service unfortunately. the nexus had bad service and would never pickup 4g, whereas my rezound had great service and would grab 4g no problem. i was in a new 4g area, so that could explain it, but the rezound would get it more often. the S3 picked up 4g much better than the nexus, but it's GPS antenna was AWFUL. my S3 would never lock on for me if i was inside any building, or hell, even a car. it was really bad...compared to my Nexus 7 which is INSTANT lock, and my DNA/Rezound which both locked really quick as well.
the call reception on the S3 was good, and sounded good, but the DNA def. beats it out. people say it sounds like i'm calling from a landline, thats how clear the DNA is.
in terms of battery life, my S3 would average around 14 hours with maybe 2 hours screen on time. when idling over night, i've gotten as much as 32 hours out of it before. the DNA, so far, seems to be almost identical. i pulled it off the charger at 5am this morning because i saw it was full, went back to sleep, and got up at like 10:30. it only dropped to 98% idling for 5 hours. considering the fact i have so much stuff synicng all the time and i was on 4G all night, that's pretty damn good!
the screen on the DNA is just amazing. the viewing angles are insanely good, and the screen is so close to the glass so it looks just amazing. the S3 has a great screen as well, although a bit more on the warm side and oversaturated sicne it's a super AMOLED.
the DNA has an amazing build quality factor here. HTC used like rounded off glass for the screen just like the S3, so your hand just glides over the edge. it doesn't have those horrible sharp corners old HTC phones had, like the rezound, where gunk and dust would get stuck in the gap and look horrible, and even worse, get dust under teh screen.
overall, the size of the DNA is fine. yeah, it's bigger than the S3 and def. feels it, but i can still do almost everything one handed on it. the S3 may seem a little bit quicker at first, which i simply attribute to touchwiz compared to sense, but overall, the DNA feels smoother.
i'm fortunate enough to be able to have all of these phones and keep them all. i'm loving the DNA, and i'll always have my galaxy nexus and S3 to switch between!
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So you have used both as a daily driver. If you had to pick, what would it be?
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earthrocker said:
in terms of battery life, my S3 would average around 14 hours with maybe 2 hours screen on time. when idling over night, i've gotten as much as 32 hours out of it before. the DNA, so far, seems to be almost identical. i pulled it off the charger at 5am this morning because i saw it was full, went back to sleep, and got up at like 10:30. it only dropped to 98% idling for 5 hours. considering the fact i have so much stuff synicng all the time and i was on 4G all night, that's pretty damn good!
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I would just like to add my battery life on my DNA to compare to your 2hr/14hr on the s3. And note this is with playing at least an hour of games, and that killed my battery.
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Firstly, battery life isn't a problem. It's not going to win any awards, but I'd honestly say it's above average for a smartphone. It'll get you through the day for sure. I wish it were removable, but it's not a dealbreaker by any means. Lack of storage space could either be a huge issue or a non-issue if you (like me) stream most of your media.
Build quality is top notch. This thing looks futuristic and feels great in the hand. It doesn't feel like a 5" phone at all. It's certainly big, but it's so thin and the taper so aggressive that it doesn't feel overwhelming. I can reach the whole screen with my thumb if I adjust how I hold it slightly. The DNA feels very similarly in size to the S3, although the latter is definitely more plasticky and cheap-feeling IMO. I'm not a fan of Samsung's glossy plastics and never have been, despite having purchased several of their products.
Coming from the Epic 4g (the original slider version, not the Touch), and playing around with my dad's S3, I find myself actually enjoying Sense. This is the first Sense phone I've bought and I much prefer it to Touchwiz, which I find garish and clunky. I had to root my Epic just to make it usable in many regards (awful battery life, lag, and FCs out of the box, all of which were handily fixed thanks to SyndicateRomFrozen). In contrast, the DNA has rock solid performance, and Sense adds some details I really like. I'd prefer AOSP, of course - but unlike my Epic, which needed some serious fixes right out of the box, I don't feel as strong of a need to root my DNA. I think I'll actually be ok with keeping it stock for awhile - that's how much I like Sense.
Anyway, my .02
Bigandrewgold said:
I would just like to add my battery life on my DNA to compare to your 2hr/14hr on the s3. And note this is with playing at least an hour of games, and that killed my battery.
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I have to say HTC has an AMAZING way to make sure their devices (including DNA) consume as little battery as possible during idle. Which is one of the best stuff I valued.
After HTC DNA, 1% per hour in idle is no long acceptable. 1% per 3 hours seems normal in idle mode.
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I have to say HTC has an AMAZING way to make sure their devices (including DNA) consume as little battery as possible during idle. Which is one of the best stuff I valued.
After HTC DNA, 1% per hour in idle is no long acceptable. 1% per 3 hours seems normal in idle mode.
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lol apparently you were a release day Rezound user when it came to battery life. On my S3 I averaged around 3.5 hours screen on time w/ no WiFi, all verizon data, unlike some of the screenshots we're seeing in this thread.
Would really like to try a DNA but so far liking the compact factor of the Razr M. The one thing, as mentioned that has always bugged me about Sammy vs. HTC or Moto are the radios. My Rezound had the best down speeds I've ever seen. And I've been rocking 4G since they implemented it here in Chicago. My Sammy's have always had so so radios. But my S3 had a great 4G radio and so so 3G radio/connection. And then Moto throws me for a loop and has terrible reception with the M. That's the one flaw of the M IMHO. If I didn't live in strong 4G I couldn't own this phone.
But since we're on the battery topic I think we're gonna start seeing the law of diminishing returns. Hardware wise and software wise there isn't much left for the "smartphone" of today. Battery tech is what really needs a push in research and development. Funny how hot phones are hampered by batteries and hot cars/bikes hampered by fuel.
I'm using the dna as my daily driver and will be for a long long time.
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Anyone happen to have a screenshot of the storage graph on a fresh phone?
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jiwengang said:
I have to say HTC has an AMAZING way to make sure their devices (including DNA) consume as little battery as possible during idle. Which is one of the best stuff I valued.
After HTC DNA, 1% per hour in idle is no long acceptable. 1% per 3 hours seems normal in idle mode.
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You never owned a Thunderbolt then. That thing could blow through a battery like no other! Barely got better and the device never saw the ICS update that was promised. There was a leak via Bamf, but that was a battery killer in my usage too. Can't blame HTC/VZW, why support a dead device when you can sell a new one?
On a good note, the DNA I bought on 9 Dec has kick ass battery life for how I use it. I haven't had much time to do gaming on it.
I came from an GS3, I prefer the DNA. One of the most annoying things about the GS3 (to me) was the hard key would wake the device. My phone is always in my pocket at work and I'd constantly find it on doing something. Erg.
As far as the storage goes; I've loaded the music that I listen to most and have all my apps/ other crap installed and still have 7.6 gigs left. I doubt I'd fill that up. With my GS3, I had the 16 gig model with another 16 gig card, I didn't even come close to maxing that out.
I just recently sold my verizon SGS3 and now I'm a happy DNA owner. Battery life is better on DNA. There is only one thing I miss having and that is CM10.
I'd kill for CM10 on DNA.
rabnud said:
You never owned a Thunderbolt then. That thing could blow through a battery like no other! Barely got better and the device never saw the ICS update that was promised. There was a leak via Bamf, but that was a battery killer in my usage too. Can't blame HTC/VZW, why support a dead device when you can sell a new one?
On a good note, the DNA I bought on 9 Dec has kick ass battery life for how I use it. I haven't had much time to do gaming on it.
I came from an GS3, I prefer the DNA. One of the most annoying things about the GS3 (to me) was the hard key would wake the device. My phone is always in my pocket at work and I'd constantly find it on doing something. Erg.
As far as the storage goes; I've loaded the music that I listen to most and have all my apps/ other crap installed and still have 7.6 gigs left. I doubt I'd fill that up. With my GS3, I had the 16 gig model with another 16 gig card, I didn't even come close to maxing that out.
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thats funny, i acutally loved the hard home key waking it up..i keep finding myself trying to hit a home key on my DNA lol. the power button is kinda hard to press on the DNA, thats my only complaint really..and that weird screen fadeout post-picture gallery issue i get. but i feel thats software and not hardware, i hope..
earthrocker said:
thats funny, i acutally loved the hard home key waking it up..i keep finding myself trying to hit a home key on my DNA lol. the power button is kinda hard to press on the DNA, thats my only complaint really..and that weird screen fadeout post-picture gallery issue i get. but i feel thats software and not hardware, i hope..
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In all honesty, I don't like having a security lock screen setup on my android devices. It drove me nuts, I'd pull the Sammy out and it would be taking a picture or trying to open a webpage/facebook, etc... BUT, I did like that it took all of 30 minutes to root/s-off/unlock and load a Rom. The 3G/4G hand off was a bit harsh on the ones I tried. It was a good phone, but didn't work well for me at work.
All being equal, I've been an HTC guy for years. I was sad that there was no OneX VZW variant. I think the DNA makes up for that in spades.
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In all honesty, I don't like having a security lock screen setup on my android devices. It drove me nuts, I'd pull the Sammy out and it would be taking a picture or trying to open a webpage/facebook, etc... BUT, I did like that it took all of 30 minutes to root/s-off/unlock and load a Rom. The 3G/4G hand off was a bit harsh on the ones I tried. It was a good phone, but didn't work well for me at work.
All being equal, I've been an HTC guy for years. I was sad that there was no OneX VZW variant. I think the DNA makes up for that in spades.
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agreed. HTC has always been my favorite brand! their customer support rocks.