so before i say anything i AM NOT bashing any devs.
my question is.. do the devs and community really think once we get the ics ota and source we will really get any "decent" custom kernels that may help with overheating and or battery life on the rezound?
the reason im asking is, we have GB and source and the two kernels that ive seen still don't really give a huge battery life boost. other than ziggy, which i haven't seen around here at all lately who is fluent with building & messing with kernels?
i guess the same question could be asked of cm9. we would still need some sort of custom aosp kernel built, right?
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so before i say anything i AM NOT bashing any devs.
my question is.. do the devs and community really think once we get the ics ota and source we will really get any "decent" custom kernels that may help with overheating and or battery life on the rezound?
the reason im asking is, we have GB and source and the two kernels that ive seen still don't really give a huge battery life boost. other than ziggy, which i haven't seen around here at all lately who is fluent with building & messing with kernels?
i guess the same question could be asked of cm9. we would still need some sort of custom aosp kernel built, right?
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I'm almost completely sure we don't have any kernel source yet, GB or ICS. So, they would actually have to release the source for us to make any major changes to the kernels.
Nope, wrong. I remember the source for GB getting released a while back. NVM. I would think that we could see better kernels one ICS source is released. I don't really see why we wouldn't, but I see what you're saying since most of the GB kernels still aren't amazing. Good, yes, just not perfect.
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I'm almost completely sure we don't have any kernel source yet, GB or ICS. So, they would actually have to release the source for us to make any major changes to the kernels.
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didn't know that, thanks.
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Lol, I edited my post. I do remember now that they released the source in November or something. I just think that we might need more involvement from devs who do a lot with kernels. Hopefully a bunch of them jump to this phone once S-Off is achieved and ICS is released.
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so before i say anything i AM NOT bashing any devs.
my question is.. do the devs and community really think once we get the ics ota and source we will really get any "decent" custom kernels that may help with overheating and or battery life on the rezound?
the reason im asking is, we have GB and source and the two kernels that ive seen still don't really give a huge battery life boost. other than ziggy, which i haven't seen around here at all lately who is fluent with building & messing with kernels?
i guess the same question could be asked of cm9. we would still need some sort of custom aosp kernel built, right?
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i know you're all hot for AOSP, but a kernel isn't gonna do it without RIL.
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i know you're all hot for AOSP, but a kernel isn't gonna do it without RIL.
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im asking about kernels in general.
I suspect the kernel devs are waiting for source before putting it in high gear.
I know Incredikernel wad fantastic on the Incredible, and I get decent battery life with it on the Rezound (uses about 50% on the standard battery over an 8 hour work day with texting, push rmail, and browsing).
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Same here, Incredikernel has worked very well for me battery wise (besides being the ONLY kernel that will run for weeks at a time without rebooting).
I would suspect HTC will fix the current issue with the ICS kernel running at 100% with screen on before anything is released. Kind of surprised we haven't had any more leaks lately actually.
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so before i say anything i AM NOT bashing any devs.
my question is.. do the devs and community really think once we get the ics ota and source we will really get any "decent" custom kernels that may help with overheating and or battery life on the rezound?
the reason im asking is, we have GB and source and the two kernels that ive seen still don't really give a huge battery life boost. other than ziggy, which i haven't seen around here at all lately who is fluent with building & messing with kernels?
i guess the same question could be asked of cm9. we would still need some sort of custom aosp kernel built, right?
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You are like a damn cockier spaniel... In the CM9 dev thread, you said the devs aren't working hard enough. Here, you're implying they're not smart enough to do what YOU want (which is very important here, you very clearly are only concerned with YOU getting AOSP/AOKP/CM9). Why the hell do you have to annoy everyone with your constant begging and inflammatory questions?
Here's a better way to get what you want: "What do the devs think the likelihood of getting custom kernels with better battery life is when we get the ICS kernel source?" See... no mention of work you personally found to be deficient... no condescending implications... just a simple question asking for information... but no... instead you're running around like moron trying get what YOU want RIGHT F*****G NOW and leaving a burning trail of insults on the way...
Please... just go away. I'm not a Rezound dev, but so many of your posts insult me on their behalf...
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You are like a damn cockier spaniel... In the CM9 dev thread, you said the devs aren't working hard enough. Here, you're implying they're not smart enough to do what YOU want (which is very important here, you very clearly are only concerned with YOU getting AOSP/AOKP/CM9). Why the hell do you have to annoy everyone with your constant begging and inflammatory questions?
Here's a better way to get what you want: "What do the devs think the likelihood of getting custom kernels with better battery life is when we get the ICS kernel source?" See... no mention of work you personally found to be deficient... no condescending implications... just a simple question asking for information... but no... instead you're running around like moron trying get what YOU want RIGHT F*****G NOW and leaving a burning trail of insults on the way...
Please... just go away. I'm not a Rezound dev, but so many of your posts insult me on their behalf...
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go troll somewhere else, this was a valid question. you need to quit sucking on the pacifier and thinking every question asked means were bashing a dev. apparently you cannot read the first few words on my initial post.
I'm not trying to insult you... but...
You are one of the slowest, most retarded, internet pseudonerds I've ever had the displeasure of reading typed vomit from. You're either 12 years old living in some fantasy that you're somehow smarter or better than the rest of us or 42 and living in your mom's basement (my former comment still applies).
But I'm not trying to insult you... Simply prefixing an insulting post with a disclaimer that its not insulting doesn't actually ameliorate the fact that you're insulting everyone you meet.
Edit: also, calling someone a troll... really? If you like, I can spend the next week trolling you and I'd bet the XDA admins would let me given how condescending you are to everyone.
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I'm not trying to insult you... but...
You are one of the slowest, most retarded, internet pseudonerds I've ever had the displeasure of reading typed vomit from. You're either 12 years old living in some fantasy that you're somehow smarter or better than the rest of us or 42 and living in your mom's basement (my former comment still applies).
But I'm not trying to insult you... Simply prefixing an insulting post with a disclaimer that its not insulting doesn't actually ameliorate the fact that you're insulting everyone you meet.
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yeah i guess striving for more options is all the sudden a bad thing in the android world.
I didn't find your first post bad in any way seemed like a general question not directed at anyone. I also didn't see any of the other people that responded to it say anything about it being bad either.
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Yes, if and when kernel source is released we will have some really nice custom sense kernels.
There are some kernel devs that will be building kernels for the rezound once source drops. I don't know what kind of phone you had before, but custom kernels can MAKE a huge difference in a phones performance. A custom kernel properly dialed can have really large improvements in performance as well as battery life. I suspect that once the rezound has custom kernels available we will battery life almost double on properly dialed in phones.
I"m a fairly heavy user, and I was pulling about 32 - 35 hours out of an extended battery on my Thunderbolt, with an overclock at 1.7 or 1.8. I don't freeze or uninstall system apps or anything like that, it was just with the options that I don't use disabled.
This wasn't at launch, it was like the rezound, it's a process of evolution and imoyeson was always tweaking and improving things with each version, testing new ideas, implementing or removing features that did good or bad, etc...
The rezound will be like that too, but I think we will see a more drastic improvement earlier in the game.
This thread made me lol.
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I didn't find your first post bad in any way seemed like a general question not directed at anyone. I also didn't see any of the other people that responded to it say anything about it being bad either.
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It just seems every question i ask gets turned around into im bashing a dev which im not.
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It just seems every question i ask gets turned around into im bashing a dev which im not.
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Understand I'm not trying to be mean or anything, but I think its because you mention AOSP in like every single possible thread and eventually it comes across as nothing more than complaining that we don't have AOSP yet. We all agree with you, we all want AOSP too... and soon! ...But there's only so many times you can hear the same thing before it becomes annoying. You keep re-iterating the same thing over and over again as if we aren't capable of understanding how much you want AOSP - but trust me, we get it!
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Understand I'm not trying to be mean or anything, but I think its because you mention AOSP in like every single possible thread and eventually it comes across as nothing more than complaining that we don't have AOSP yet. We all agree with you, we all want AOSP too... and soon! ...But there's only so many times you can hear the same thing before it becomes annoying. You keep re-iterating the same thing over and over again as if we aren't capable of understanding how much you want AOSP - but trust me, we get it!
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Other than this thread wasnt about aosp. I was asking about source and lack of kernels. But i get your point.
If yall have a problem with him then you have two good options.
1. Shut up and let him be
2. Talk to a mod
Confronting him isn't going to stop anything, if you have learned anything from the internet its this, bashing someone is always going to.make them speak up, because of the fact that there is no consequences
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Are we all waiting on the GB fix? It is nice to have a phone and not have it flashed every other day but it makes me sad that we are at a standstill. Thank you devs for everything that you have done thus far and I look forward to trying out new things when everyone comes back! I just really wanted to say that I miss you all!
... There was an update on a GB rom today... I mean a new Kernel was just released and the radio was just posted yesturday... I am not sure what you are talking about I feel the devs are quite alive here still tickin'. I feel like this post is going to get flamed.
I know what he means, it just feels dead in here. There probably is more behind the scenes, but for us common folk it seems dead.
Yea. I feel ya man. It feels dead. I felt the same way but the radio and some rom update seems Alive bbut I only want the new and still waiting for bamf.. but finally saw pr3 so gonna jump on that boat.
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I'm seeing lots of new ROMs and some with accompanying radios. Yesterday I installed the Chingy MR2 radio and Gingeritis IX, and all works great, no reboots.
Right now I'm downloading Th3ory of Ginger and and Th3ory3.0CandyV3, and those came with an MR2 radio, so it looks like things are all clear now? I gotta get my flash fix !
Feel free to start learning how to write and hack code, otherwise wait patiently and quit posting threads asking even if it's in a way that tries to be polite .
Unless you've had experience in writing code, it's hard to understand why things take so long so just imagine you're given a huge pile of parts and only half the directions to put it together (given the half from android and missing the half from htc, which htc was also nice enough to put in a format you cant easily read without translating). Your family keeps asking you "are you done yet??? You say no, it'll be done when it's done. So yeah. Working on a sense based android phone is sort of like that in the best way I can give a metaphor in non technical terms.
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Feel free to start learning how to write and hack code, otherwise wait patiently and quit posting threads asking even if it's in a way that tries to be polite .
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Easy now killer... I was just trying to see what was going on with everything. Am I not allowed to wonder what is going on?
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Easy now killer... I was just trying to see what was going on with everything. Am I not allowed to wonder what is going on?
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It's okay to wonder, sure. However, dont you think someone would post something if there was something new in the developers forum? Developers might hate being asked when something will be out, but the one thing developers like to tell the world about is something new and shiny they just made.
Just from my experience, the only people that can really pester a developer about when something should be done are paying clients. Even those get annoying, because developers sort of have a pet peeve against giving a set deadline since things generally don't go according to plan, especially when you cant estimate the project scope for something like android.
Might not agree with me and I'm relatively new to developing on android and haven't coded/hacked anything impressive enough to show yet, but I have linux development experience on other platforms and can just say how developers feel from my own experience of working with clients and free advice/work I've given elsewhere.
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Easy now killer... I was just trying to see what was going on with everything. Am I not allowed to wonder what is going on?
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X2. I agree
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Easy now killer... I was just trying to see what was going on with everything. Am I not allowed to wonder what is going on?
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Wondering is fine but you might not have posted this if you read the dev forums. Plenty is going on so just your perception is at a stand still.
I just bought my Thunderbolt yesterday...and I'm coming from the Samsung Mesmerize. The difference in dev support is like night and day. Dev support was half the reason I bought the Thunderbolt. Keep up the good work guys.
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Well well well....we asked for S-off/root and we got it. Within hours the ROMs flooded the dev page.
I loved this phone from the minute I got it. ROMs are making it better. CM7 and MIUI are coming at which point I will probably run around my neighborhood in my skivvies screaming about it.
I have one gripe though. Why are there SOOOO many ROMs? I know everyone wants to get their hands dirty at doing dev work. It makes you the cool kid on the block, and there's a good chance that if you put one on XDA, CheesyNutz will flash it at least once.
I feel like the ROMs are too hard to choose from because most of them are similar, with some being almost exactly the same with minor differences.
This is what I propose. First of all, maybe someone with more ambition than me (read: anyone) could put together a comparison chart of all the ROMs based on the features they have. Using that data, maybe some of the devs that have similar direction/are trying to achieve the same thing can collaborate.
The way I see it, there will be less confusion on the development page, with better ROMs that have more options.
TL;DR - Devs need to collab. on ROMs to reduce clutter and improve ROMs
Oh God. You're not seriously *****ing about too many choices are you?
there is an insane amount of roms, lol most of them offer alot of the same things..but I say, the more roms...THE BETTER!!!!!
Variety is the spice of life...
So you complain about having to look through the ROMs that people develop for your phone (for free) you want a chart made with all the comparisons of those free ROMs but you want somebody else to do it for you? What's wrong with this picture?
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So you complain about having to look through the ROMs that people develop for your phone (for free) you want a chart made with all the comparisons of those free ROMs but you want somebody else to do it for you? What's wrong with this picture?
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This. +1.
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OP I think you should give your EVO 3D to somebody on XDA and go get yourself an iPhone.
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Well well well....we asked for S-off/root and we got it. Within hours the ROMs flooded the dev page.
I loved this phone from the minute I got it. ROMs are making it better. CM7 and MIUI are coming at which point I will probably run around my neighborhood in my skivvies screaming about it.
I have one gripe though. Why are there SOOOO many ROMs? I know everyone wants to get their hands dirty at doing dev work. It makes you the cool kid on the block, and there's a good chance that if you put one on XDA, CheesyNutz will flash it at least once.
I feel like the ROMs are too hard to choose from because most of them are similar, with some being almost exactly the same with minor differences.
This is what I propose. First of all, maybe someone with more ambition than me (read: anyone) could put together a comparison chart of all the ROMs based on the features they have. Using that data, maybe some of the devs that have similar direction/are trying to achieve the same thing can collaborate.
The way I see it, there will be less confusion on the development page, with better ROMs that have more options.
TL;DR - Devs need to collab. on ROMs to reduce clutter and improve ROMs
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Yeah i dont think people have more ambition than you since no one else is complainin' lol
The more devs on our device the better.
you gotta remember for a lot of the devs what there releasing now is really just a base for what they will be doing as things progress. over time you will start to see every devs individual preferences start to show along with the themes and all the eye candy some devs like.
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The more devs on our device the better.
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right..i just came from the galaxy s 4g on tmobile, and there was literally like 2 roms over there..lol
that's usually what android development is for, to share one another their custom made rom, so no i dont think there are many roms yet, so bring it on!!!
You know what?. people like the OP disgust me. ya Commie..
I bet you think we should all just be happy with 1 ROM to use don'tcha Ruskie?!
Think it's totally ok for us all to just stand in line and wait for our daily allowance of bread, Comrade!?
HUH?!
THIS IS 'MURICA AND WE DON'T TAKE KINDLY TO YOUR TYPE 'ROUND THESE HERE PARTS!!
AAnnyways, I can see your point of view. There are several roms that seem the same right now. it's been barely a week since S-off and it's a very good sign that everyone is wanting to make ROM's, once everyone has their bases done we will see differences pop up, custom themes, ingenious tweaks, etc. Give it some time. The 3D scene is still young.
seriously????....
Im fixin to post my set up soon, so get ready for a phatman ROM. That's one more to the list. Probably the best one ever too.
B l a s p h e m y ! ! !
The more ROMS the Merryer
Theres too many moneys in my wallet gotta be a bad thing
Can't wait phatman it will be the slowest most bloated rom ever
If you don't have an Evo3d well... You ain't got ****e
get bent new guy
I can agree with the OP to an extent. For me, seeing the Dev forum say [ROM] after [ROM] after [ROM] is a bit overwhelming for me. But, it's just like any other free market. You're confronted with 40 brands of hot sauce, and damn, that's a lot, but you try one, see how it is, and choose based on that. The bonus of all of these ROMs is that A), they're available online, so you don't have to drive to the store, and B), they're free.
Just my 2 fiat cents.
So I was thinking earlier today, according to a few people, we apparently have RIL working just not a kernel source to make AOKP/AOSP stable.
I also thought, well, we have plenty of people still running GB ROMs and people on GB firmware. Why don't people try to put together a CM7.2 ROM since we do have source for GB.
I'm pretty sure Android is all about choice and variety so I ask someone who is experienced in porting, development, etc. Why doesn't someone get in touch with Tekk, or whoever has RIL working and pop out a CM7 (.2?) port, it's still AOSP so it'll hold people over and hell, some people would probably prefer it, not to mention that I'm sure people would rather have a form of Cyanogenmod over nothing at all.
I have no clue how, nor the computer to ever begin trying it, so it's why I ask.
This would definitely be nice. Cm7.2 is amazing on my incredible. I would love to see it on the rezound! Maybe... Just maybe...
Gingerbread AOSP will be just as hard.
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Gingerbread AOSP will be just as hard.
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No it won't because the sources are available
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con247 said:
Gingerbread AOSP will be just as hard.
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They got everything working in ICS, would NONE of it be able to work towards GB??
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Gingerbread AOSP will be just as hard.
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I thought we had everything we needed available?
If RIL is fixed for ICS AOSP ROMs supposedly, and we're waiting for kernel source to get it stable, couldn't we translate the RIL fixes down to a GB AOSP ROM, I thought also since we have GB kernel source, all loose ends would be tied up?
We would need someone to take time to make a RIL. I doubt they would. They said in the passed they didn't want to cause of ICS but if we can't progress in CM9 due to kernel source. Why not progress in CM7. Might be a step back but you would make a lot of people happy.
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We would need someone to take time to make a RIL. I doubt they would. They said in the passed they didn't want to cause of ICS but if we can't progress in CM9 due to kernel source. Why not progress in CM7. Might be a step back but you would make a lot of people happy.
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This is kinda my sentiment, if we can't progress any farther on CM9 until HTC/Verizon get the OTA out (which could come as early as next week or as late as 2 months from now, if the latest June-July report is accurate), why not do a CM7 side project, it would seem we have most of, if not all of what we need available.
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This is kinda my sentiment, if we can't progress any farther on CM9 until HTC/Verizon get the OTA out, why not do a CM7 side project, it would seem we have most of, if not all of what we need available.
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"side project" Very well said
This would probably also bring us GB CM and MIUI.
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This would probably also bring us GB CM and MIUI.
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Which to me and probably many others is better than possibly nothing and if nothing else, just gives us some more variety which is never bad.
There are a ****load of other fixes aside from RIL that were done for ICS that would have to be redone for GB. For example, things like EGL took a long time to fix for ICS.
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There are a ****load of other fixes aside from RIL that were done for ICS that would have to be redone for GB. For example, things like EGL took a long time to fix for ICS.
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This I did not know, hence why I did ask about this;
I think this would great but idk if I could live without my apex launcher!!
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"side project" Very well said
This would probably also bring us GB CM and MIUI.
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Why is everybody asking for something instead of attempting to learn something and do it as their own "side-project"?
I got sick of waiting for AOSP, so I found one a ROM I liked and I asked the original dev if I could try to port it. He said go for it, and so I started working on it. Once I have a something worthy of going public, it might just pop up somewhere...
Anyways, the point is, why do I see everybody asking for things but nobody willing to try and do it themselves? Isn't the whole point of Android the ability to tinker with it and make it do whatever you want?
...but, if you're going to depend on someone else to do it for you, it just doesn't seem fair to ask the developers here to "hurry up" or go out of their way to develop something they aren't interested in using themselves..
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Why is everybody asking for something instead of attempting to learn something and do it as their own "side-project"?
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I am attempting to learn btw
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I am attempting to learn btw
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Me too! ****s taking up a lot of my time but it sure is fun!
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Me too! ****s taking up a lot of my time but it sure is fun!
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Sometimes it's fun. haha pain most of the time
I never came in here and asked people per say to do anything,
I did ask about the possibility of it happening and I said foremost that I'm not able to even try because I don't have a computer that's powerful enough to do that kind of work.
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I never came in here and asked people per say to do anything,
I did ask about the possibility of it happening and I said foremost that I'm not able to even try because I don't have a computer that's powerful enough to do that kind of work.
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I understand you were asking about the possibility and not saying something like "Hurry the hell up and give me at least CM7!" and honestly my comment wasn't directed at you at all, or any other single person for that matter. It just seems like in general, we have a common theme of people asking for things like they are entitled, but having no interest in actually contributing to anything at all. I was attempting to point out that really any of us could learn to do these things, if we would just try to spend some time on it...
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I understand you were asking about the possibility and not saying something like "Hurry the hell up and give me at least CM7!" and honestly my comment wasn't directed at you at all, or any other single person for that matter. It just seems like in general, we have a common theme of people asking for things like they are entitled, but having no interest in actually contributing to anything at all. I was attempting to point out that really any of us could learn to do these things, if we would just try to spend some time on it...
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I would love to learn, however I lack the time requirement to learn it with a full time + job, a three year old, a preggers wife, and a house to get ready for the new demon spawn. Sucks because I'd probably be pretty good at it too. I have no expectations on devs and will continue to patiently wait for anything they release.
Finally get kernel source and development slows down.. bummer
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too many new phones coming out!
Great things come to those who wait...
How is it slowing down
We have like a new kernel every day. Read Chad's dev thread he is going warp speed on his progress and we are becoming the only second verizon phone aside form the nexus to have aosp ( tbolt had it because of slayer ).
So right about now, i think if i had the money, i would re-buy the rezound, finally the perfect merge between hardware and software.
And beside all that, all of the devs are busy with school , yet they still have time to try on jelly bean and work on it.
Instead of making a thread like that, i would take the time, go press your max 8 thank yous to every thread and buy them a cup of coffee.
Ok this came out a bit hostile, i am sorry about that, but we have a bunch of awesome devs right, its like we have la creme de la creme now, and i feel completely opposite from you.
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Finally get kernel source and development slows down.. bummer
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Like the last guy said. I don't think it has slowed so much as it has shifted. Everyone seems to be working on soap now. Also school has started and people do have lives (i hope). It's still the weekend, get out there and enjoy it!
We are just getting like literally 100% cm9 like .. any day now. It's at 90% right now.
AOKP is not far behind, idk say 70% currently and will be 100% in a week to three weeks(total guess by me). We have MIUI, not sure where it's at right now haven't been looking. We have great ics ROM's. We have Great sense 4 ROM's. We have great kernels being pumped out everyday now. We have Fully functional GSM ROM's The dev's that are almost done with cm9 are getting into jelly bean now... what more do you want ...
oh yeah and 1-3 people are thinking of porting touch wiz over or something as well.
Edit 2: Oh it also looks like someone is working on paranoid android also hmm so what was it you wanted op a phone that prints cookies right before you get home?
mmm cookies that would be sick xD lawl
Edit 1: It hasn't slowed it has went warp speed in the background
lack of releases =/= lack of development.
And we'll probably be getting jb quite soon.
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That's a very snide way to look at development. It's not like this stuff happens over night.
Only thing I have to say is if your unsatisfied with development maybe you should learn to develop yourself. That way you can for fill your own needs. Not sure what people expect sometimes. We have about 4 different kernels all kinds of ROMs, and themes what the hell are you expecting? Let me get you some cheese..
I can tell by your 11 post and 1 thanks that you have a lot to contribute.. This thread should be closed..
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Only thing I have to say is if your unsatisfied with development maybe you should learn to develop yourself. That way you can for fill your own needs. Not sure what people expect sometimes. We have about 4 different kernels all kinds of ROMs, and themes what the hell are you expecting? Let me get you some cheese..
I can tell by your 11 post and 1 thanks that you have a lot to contribute.. This thread should be closed..
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Post vs thanks count isn't really a fair way to look at this. When I started out mine was really low too, but now I'm pretty helpful around here. (I fully agree the OP's attitude sucks though)
1dog9 said:
Finally get kernel source and development slows down.. bummer
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You're kidding, right? The dev thread gets updated every day or so, and I believe chad just managed to fix bluetooth. We're getting ready to start on JB. Just buy a new phone if you want instant gratification
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We are just getting like literally 100% cm9 like .. any day now. It's at 90% right now.
AOKP is not far behind, idk say 70% currently and will be 100% in a week to three weeks(total guess by me). We have MIUI, not sure where it's at right now haven't been looking. We have great ics ROM's. We have Great sense 4 ROM's. We have great kernels being pumped out everyday now. We have Fully functional GSM ROM's The dev's that are almost done with cm9 are getting into jelly bean now... what more do you want ...
oh yeah and 1-3 people are thinking of porting touch wiz over or something as well.
Edit: It hasn't slowed it has went warp speed in the background
lack of releases =/= lack of development.
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Im trying to build ParanoidAndroid from source for us atm, including all the fixes that have happened since the last build was made. Im learning this as I go but I got cm9 built so I know I can do it.
Antp's cm9 kang works great, I've been running it for a few days now and haven't had any compliants about it! Once Devin works on uberkernel more and cm9 reaches full stability on our phones it will be awesome. I was running Neo's adrenaline and it was good but cm9 totally kicks it's ass! The battery life is absolutely amazing, I've had my phone on for 5 hours and I'm at 72% when I'd usually be at about 30 when on a sense rom!
AshtonTS said:
Post vs thanks count isn't really a fair way to look at this. When I started out mine was really low too, but now I'm pretty helpful around here. (I fully agree the OP's attitude sucks though)
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hahaha i just lol'ed at how you're patting yourself on the back there. classic ashton.
Wow. At times this forum is just not friendly. I'm guessing the OP feels this way because there are no JB roms yet. I can share the eager anticipation.
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lithium630 said:
Wow. At times this forum is just not friendly. I'm guessing the OP feels this way because there are no JB roms yet. I can share the eager anticipation.
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This community went through a lot. We love and respect our developers and their free work. We get riled up when people come and drive our dev away. If you want jb ( which i am sure is coming in due time ) then get the crappy nexus.
Dont forget, we have one of the only 3 phones on the network that can surf and talk on 3g, its a hard radio to figure but bec of out lightning speed developing , we now have aosp on one of the best hardware verizon has.
BTW, any one else think that verizon tech support are highly uneducated ... I keep trying to explain to them this surf and talk over 3g that makes it so special with our rezound and they go " yeah all of our 4g phones can do this on 4g networks , of if there is wifi and 3g. Are they retarted ???? what kind of crap is that , they dont even know their own phones ?
we should make more thread to ***** at verizon , not our devs. I would be down for that .
lithium630 said:
Wow. At times this forum is just not friendly. I'm guessing the OP feels this way because there are no JB roms yet. I can share the eager anticipation.
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Your right...
OP what can we do for you to make it better?
jayochs said:
hahaha i just lol'ed at how you're patting yourself on the back there. classic ashton.
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I wouldn't say patting myself on the back, but rather relating my story for the OP
zone23 said:
Your right...
OP what can we do for you to make it better?
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I want a pony!
I vote we banish OP to my old phone. If this is slow development, then ours over there never even left the starting gate.
i know i posted up earlier about the red border. Everything is good now. I just now have questions about this phone and its development stages. Since for some reason i cant post in dev page. I have to ask here.
So i was half tempted to not get this phone simply because i browsed the threads and saw no real roms or kernals that do anything fancy. I come from an evo 3d and could flash a rom every single day if i wanted because there were so many. I know this phone is new how new im still not sure upon. I see a real lack of any development on here. The best you can get is turning your og into a nexus 4 and than have cm 10.1 with the downside of only 8gigs of storage period. Well that was the whole reason i did not just pick up the htc one x was because there was no expandable memory and at most you had 10g of internal storage and thats it! so whats going on here? I know alot about the scene and though i have no coding experience myself nor rom building experience. I do love to test roms and i really want a not a stock feel to the phone. Where is the overclocking, where is the transperent status bar, where is anything to make this phone really stick out from stock? Hell i was running jb 4.2 on my evo 3d. Now im stuck being back on ICS? How is this possible that there is not stable jb port to this phone that is properly working. I have 14 days to return this phone. And with people releasing roms that the camera does not work, and storage is crap, and no overclocking support, is it because this is not the phone i thought it could be? Am i not doing enough research. Im currently rooted, unlocked, and running nocturnal limited, and i still feel stock and still 4.04.
Is this phone going to be heavily dev supported like the evo 3d is still today or should i return it and get a phone like the htc one that actually has dev support. All the roms i have seen for this phone is almost complete garbage interms of what this phone should be capable of. And the idea of turning into a nexus 4 is the most idiotic thing i ever heard.... let me change my phone to be another phone? Who wanted that and why did they just not go and get the nexus 4? I may be ranting but i could have got the htc one for .99 as opposed to the $100 i paid to sign a contract with att. I want to know if i am really getting jipped here. Is this not the phone plenty rave about? If your on this site there is no way you want a stock feeling phone and thats what i feel we are getting. I donated to get the freegee app to find out there is no good roms therefor no need to unlock the bootloader so i can flash roms that are not here..........
please dont come at me like a hard a$$ and talk crap, im simply expressing an opinion and asking questions. I loved my evo3d and if i have to carry both around because my 3 year old phone is 10 times better than this optimus im going to be upset. I would just like someone to explain what is in the works with this phone, and if and when there will be some real dev support and why there is almost non at the moment. It sad when devs are still all over the 3d posting new roms everyday, and this one has 5 that are garbage?
thank you for your actual intelligent responses, and cant wait for some nerd raging on me for blasting this out like this. Im simply being real.
Try reading this forum for the answers to your questions. Then maybe sell your OG to someone who appreciates it and knows what to do with it. Sounds like you'd be better off with a SG3. Good luck.
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Wow.... I'll take your OG if you don't want it. Seriously, I will.
This is why I like having iOS around. That way we can weed out the idiots from android. You should really check out the iPhone. I hear it can make phone calls. You should like it.
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exactly the responses i was expecting lol.....
Its clearly obvious i have read the forums as i am rooted, unlocked with twrp and nocturnal limited rom... so thank you for pointing out how much i have not read.
As for the sg3...... well thats is just an over priced piece of trash everyone i know hates them.... so thanks but piss off...
as for your iphone comment... only mainstream looooooosers have iphones as they are for the dumb...
no you may not have my optimus if i do anything with it , it will go back to att and ill get a htc one x+ at least people are doing things or at least talking of things they are doing.
HTC has huge dev support and this being my first LG i knew it was going to take some getting used to. I was just hoping for a little more out of this highly praised machine. It is a great phone, i will not say its not. I just was expecting from such a great phone a huge dev following of which i do not see. I see about 5 different roms, a custom cwm touch recovery, and hmmm..... turning your optimus into a nexus.. For you thinking that i am bashing on lg and should give it away.... there is people here pretending there phones are different phones... "hey look i know it says lg but is totally a nexus!" I can download a launcher that makes my phone look like a windows phone.... but hmmmm how dumb is that? At the end of this rant, i was curious as to what anyone knows about the future of the development on this phone. Clearly you do not have answers because that would take thinking, your idiotic comments and replys did nothing to offer any sort of answer nor did it show your IQ being anywhere near that of a 10 year old..
I clearly posted i await your nerd rage and therefore clearly enjoy it, however this thread was not started with the sole intent of it being a bickering fest. I wanted some serious answers, and I tried to express myself and thoughts on this phone along with questions that involved the future of this phone.
I am a flashaholic, i love to make my phones the best they can be. I love anything custom! So if you wanna cry about my thoughts on the phone cry, ill bring you a tissue, otherwise offer some real insight into what this phone is all about, and hopefully where this phone might be heading. Otherwise take your trolling, crying , butthurt comments somewhere else, as they are just absolutely humorous to me, and ill will reply accordingly.
Thanks and hope to hear some real comments...
btw: i cant wait for the grammer police comments cause it seems if no one has something good to say, they just like to correct your grammer, sort of like "your a tool" "no, your a tool" and we can definatly take this back to 1st grade if you like.
Joecascio2000 said:
This is why I like having iOS around. That way we can weed out the idiots from android. You should really check out the iPhone. I hear it can make phone calls. You should like it.
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look what i found... while i was busy not reading btw
"have the AT&T LGOG and it's rooted with unlocked boot loader and is running a custom ROM called The Base. Devs are working hard to build a way to easily port any Nexus 4 ROM. They have CM10 working but are still working out the kinks before releasing it. CM9 and a stock AOSP rom are also in the works. The Base is a stock, rooted, and debloated ROM and it is already out. Development is going strong and everyday I see more developers move on over to it. Since it is very similar to the Nexus 4, once all the hard work is done building the device tree, roms are gonna come flying out."
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I do believe its a great phone, but heavily relying on nexus devs to do all the dirty work, granted they are practically the same. Again i wanted to know whats up with this phone.
Stop. Seriously, just stop right now.
If all of these features are important to you, and flashing a new rom everyday gives your life some meaning, then you made an idiotic move purchasing this phone.
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ripbabey said:
look what i found... while i was busy not reading btw
"have the AT&T LGOG and it's rooted with unlocked boot loader and is running a custom ROM called The Base. Devs are working hard to build a way to easily port any Nexus 4 ROM. They have CM10 working but are still working out the kinks before releasing it. CM9 and a stock AOSP rom are also in the works. The Base is a stock, rooted, and debloated ROM and it is already out. Development is going strong and everyday I see more developers move on over to it. Since it is very similar to the Nexus 4, once all the hard work is done building the device tree, roms are gonna come flying out."
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I do believe its a great phone, but heavily relying on nexus devs to do all the dirty work, granted they are practically the same. Again i wanted to know whats up with this phone.
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And...? Everything I said is true.
LGOG is rooted and has unlocked bootloader
Has stock roms (The Base, Slick, Noc)
Devs are still working on a way to port Nexus 4 roms (I believe it has to do with building a device tree and obtaining source for JB kernel)
CM10 (an actual ROM, not the N4 conversion) is "almost" done (About 3 weeks ago a dev said it booted and they could hear the lock screen but couldn't see the display due to driver issues.
A dev was working on CM9 but I believe they stopped because there was no point in releasing an outdated ROM.
Development is going strong and everyday I see more developers move on over to it. - Fact (Development is a slow process. They have made huge progress in only a few months. This phone isn't like samsung. They are working from a locked down system with no source code. They are amazing for what they do. They are some of the best devs on XDA.)
Once we have on bootable ROM, which will happen, Roms will be coming out quickly.
So I guess the real question is, "Do you actually know how to read?"
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And...? Everything I said is true.
LGOG is rooted and has unlocked bootloader
Has stock roms (The Base, Slick, Noc)
Devs are still working on a way to port Nexus 4 roms (I believe it has to do with building a device tree and obtaining source for JB kernel)
CM10 (an actual ROM, not the N4 conversion) is "almost" done (About 3 weeks ago a dev said it booted and they could hear the lock screen but couldn't see the display due to driver issues.
A dev was working on CM9 but I believe they stopped because there was no point in releasing an outdated ROM.
Development is going strong and everyday I see more developers move on over to it. - Fact (Development is a slow process. They have made huge progress in only a few months. This phone isn't like samsung. They are working from a locked down system with no source code. They are amazing for what they do. They are some of the best devs on XDA.)
Once we have on bootable ROM, which will happen, Roms will be coming out quickly.
So I guess the real question is, "Do you actually know how to read?"
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never said it wasnt true, just was in response to your ignorant iphone comment as well as the learn to read comment. Stop nerd raging for a minute, how hard is it to answer the questions? I already made a comment on the cm10.1 in my op.....all of the stuff you listed in your comment i already did... I asked what is next? What do you think the future dev is? Will this actually have a strong dev following? Will there be any decent , stable, overclocked, tweaked roms to come to this phone.
Thank you for finally giving me a little more of an answer than a mean spirited remark. I am no idiot, i did not post anywhere in this forum newb questions on how to root my lg, or unlock it, or flash a recovery, or install a rom..... I wanted to know what is really going on with this phone. So thank you joe for actually answering my questions.
gregk232 said:
Stop. Seriously, just stop right now.
If all of these features are important to you, and flashing a new rom everyday gives your life some meaning, then you made an idiotic move purchasing this phone.
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You sir..... Is your computer broken, are you stuck on my thread and only my thread which is preventing you from looking at anything else, instead of making a dumb rude comment? Stop trolling every thread and post that is on the site.... you talk about giving my life meaning and here you are telling me to stop it? Hmmmm who are you? I asked questions and my personal feelings on the phone thus far, and in no way bashed the phone or its following. I simply asked questions. I posted joes comment because as i read i actually found it useful. So thanks for peeking in this thread but your comments are best left in that pea sized thing rattling around in your giant head some might call a brain.. I asked questions in the Q and A forum......your comment was neither a q nor an a thus GTFO! XDA is where is got a lot of my EVO 3D questions answered and i respect this site. Its arseholes like you that make people scared to ask questions for fear of some ignorant jacka$$ trying to put them down.
I however can not and will not be intimidated, if i have done anything to violate the terms of this forum, please report me and have me banned. Your STOP IT attack was in no way useful.
SO..... STOP IT, JUST STOP IT!
ripbabey said:
never said it wasnt true, just was in response to your ignorant iphone comment as well as the learn to read comment. Stop nerd raging for a minute, how hard is it to answer the questions? I already made a comment on the cm10.1 in my op.....all of the stuff you listed in your comment i already did... I asked what is next? What do you think the future dev is? Will this actually have a strong dev following? Will there be any decent , stable, overclocked, tweaked roms to come to this phone.
Thank you for finally giving me a little more of an answer than a mean spirited remark. I am no idiot, i did not post anywhere in this forum newb questions on how to root my lg, or unlock it, or flash a recovery, or install a rom..... I wanted to know what is really going on with this phone. So thank you joe for actually answering my questions.
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Wish I had better news. We are all eagerly and (in)patiently waiting for the first release of non-stock roms. Unfortunately, it's just a waiting game. Right now it's LG's move and they are taking their sweet little time. We do have a strong dev following. They are lurking in the shadows. We are very fortunate that we have both an international version of this phone and also the Nexus 4. That gives us two pools where ROMs can be ported from. Just like the Nexus S, i9000, and Samsung Captivate. All of which are still going strong. It took time to get things setup for those phones and like I said we are at a disadvantage because LG isn't as "helpful" as Samsung. Development will take off one way or another, we just have to wait.
IMHO though, nobody should be complaining because stock LG is amazing. And the stock ROMs are perfect.
Dude....
Your entire post sounds like one big vagina monologue.
"There is not enough dev support for this phone..... I can't believe we don't have a stable JB ROM..... I want to flash a new rom every day....."
Waaa waaa waaa :crying::crying::crying::crying:
No one is intimidating you.
Just making the point that you obviously did not act like a rational consumer by purchasing a product that does not meet your expectations, then complain about it in the QA section.
Not sure why you needed to create this thread. Return the phone and get something else if you aren't happy with it. It's not rocket science, lol.
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Oh look, it's this thread again
Guys, settle down please. Let's not turn this into the i777 forums. I'd rather not relive that.
This phone is too powerful to not be developed, but developing for ICS is pointless when JB is coming. There will be much more development. You must just be patient. But in all honesty, Samsung and HTC will probably always have more development, so if you are a flashaholic, I would go with the SIII.
"Ye best start believin' in troll threads... Yer in one."
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"Ye best start believin' in troll threads... Yer in one."
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Hahaha! F*****g brilliant!
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Hahaha! F*****g brilliant!
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Yes! In before thread closed!:banghead::banghead::banghead:
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They wouldn't close this thread, it has been nothing but honest, intelligent, mature, informative discussion.
But honestly, this has been asked a lot... We are hoping development will pick up after the source is released and JB hits our device.
But there are no guarantees, it is kind of your fault for picking up a device (great as it may be) that doesn't have 20+ ROMs out for it, you should have looked here first and shied away from the device if development was so important.
Based on what we have heard from devs, the work is being done, it is slow going with no source and nobody wants to work on ICS when JB is coming so soon.
Also, one of the biggest problems here, you called what development we have seen released "garbage," most likely (hopefully) the devs can dismiss that statement as the angry rantings of somebody with a bad filter, but it is still terrible motivation to spur development further.
Work has gone into the development we have seen, it may not have quite the shock and awe factor you are looking for, but they are solid works.
It sounded like you were very unappreciative and then demanded more, maybe not your intention, but that is how it can be construed.
I'm not trying to bash you in any way, but the community does better when there is less... negativity.
Also, no need to be so defensive, you knew you would get the responses you did, should have just let them slide.
chrisphoenix7 said:
Guys, settle down please. Let's not turn this into the i777 forums. I'd rather not relive that.
This phone is too powerful to not be developed, but developing for ICS is pointless when JB is coming. There will be much more development. You must just be patient. But in all honesty, Samsung and HTC will probably always have more development, so if you are a flashaholic, I would go with the SIII.
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dood i agree the i777 forums was a nightmare with all the immaturity attitude around
I get the feeling OP is the kind of guy that complains when he gets free stuff.
As for getting a new phone, good riddance. You really didn't need to make this thread. A lot of us are waiting on custom ROMs and CM10 and all that. You don't see us whining about it like a little girl (no offense ladies )