Has anyone tried Kainy for playing games vs. splashtop THD? I just heard about this app today and I'm wondering how it is compared to splashtop THD on a WIFI network. And does it support mouse and keyboard?
Will give it a go later and report back. The included Splashtop (non HD) didn't work as well as I had expected it to.
Gave it a try and have to say the quality leaves much to be desired.
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Can u go in to some details about the quality? I tried diablo 3 on splashtop and it occasionally lags when I got from "nothing going on" on screen to "suddenly shooting frost beam". Also u can definitely see some compression artifacts. How does Kainy compare?
Best way to describe it is the video looks like 8 bit color, the sound did not work, and the interface was not made for a tablet size screen (graphics are jagged)
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I tried both of them and Splashtop THD blows Kainy out of the water as far as lag and picture quality. Kainy may surpass with gaming features in the future but it's quite there yet.
I played skyrim with Splashtop and a couple other games like Star wars galaxies and Dawn of War 2 and I have had no issues. im might give kainy a try but I have been happy with splashtop THD and I have splashtop 2 installed but don't use it much, not sure what the difference is but I can take advantage of the THD version so I do.
Was using splashtop THD over wifi to my wired computer and was suprised how well it did actually work, there is some latency issues with lagging input but thats to be expected, even though i'm getting 100mb.
Plus i'm not using an nvidia GPU, i've got crossfired 6870s which normally dominate pc games so i also have the lack of full screen support with applications as i'm using an AMD card which is a bit crap too.
Other than that it's a decent little app that does serve a purpose.
I found it hard to get my ps3 controller mapped though, it wasn't recognized natively, works fine on games on the prime, just not on games on the prime using splash top.
Maybe i'm missing something.
Haven't tried kainy yet, might give it a whirl tonight.
Same for me.
Gamepad support is horrible.
WIsh I had know before paying for the app.
Oh well, Maybe my small contribution will help bring in support for gamepads! (readroper support for gamepads)
Is still THD to prefere before Kainy?
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Was on engadget today and saw that rockstar is going to release GTA 3 for the following devices.
Apple iOS Devices: iPad 1 & 2, iPhone 4 & 4S, iPod touch 4th Generation
Android Phones: HTC Rezound, LG Optimus 2x, Motorola Atrix 4G, Motorola Droid X2, Motorola Photon 4G, Samsung Galaxy R, T-Mobile G2x
Android Tablets: Acer Iconia, Asus Eee Pad Transformer, Dell Streak 7, LG Optimus Pad, Motorola Xoom, Samsung Galaxy Tab 8.9 and 10.1, Sony Tablet S, Toshiba Thrive
Think we have a shot or not enough power?
We definitely don't have enough power because we can barely run any of the higher end games (shadowgun) I'm sure that well be able to get it running, but probably terribly. Also this game doesn't even have that great of graphics... just bad optimization
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Shadowgun runs fine for me on one of the later nightlies overclocked to 1.2ghz. I also have GangStar running with no issues to.
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We definitely don't have enough power because we can barely run any of the higher end games (shadowgun) I'm sure that well be able to get it running, but probably terribly. Also this game doesn't even have that great of graphics... just bad optimization
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GT racing, Asphalt 6, Modern Combat 2, Sacred Odyssey all run great for me. That being said with Gameloft already having Gangstar (which runs great BTW) there isn't much need for an actual GTA. GTA3 might be worth it if there was a way to put the Real GTA mod on it.
fine, fine maybe shadowgun was a bad example but what about 9mm, riptide, fast five, dungeon defenders, etc. those don't even force you to have a dual core device... remember we're pushing 1024x600(thats 614,400) pixels of 3D on old hardware... also I'm not so sure about the definition of "it runs fine" these days. Some people seem to convince themselves that things run great when they're not (myself included)
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GT racing, Asphalt 6, Modern Combat 2, Sacred Odyssey all run great for me. That being said with Gameloft already having Gangstar (which runs great BTW) there isn't much need for an actual GTA. GTA3 might be worth it if there was a way to put the Real GTA mod on it.
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How did you get the crosshair in the middle, the damage indication, and the dragable looking area to fill the whole screen??? I've tried tons of different versions to no avail I've even looked at your thread and used the version listed to no avail. thanks in advance
yea gangstar makes gta3 look kind of dated.
I did notice a bunch of slowdowns trying high quality games on my Nook however a second later I noticed I was running on the conservative governor and facepalmed myself.
Switched to performance governor and everything was a breeze...
One way or another, we won't know until it's released, right?
I wouldn't be surprised if it runs. The NC is a little gem. That said, how is it going to playable on a touchscreen? And... an honest question... is GTA III really that fun? I just picked it up in a steam pack and it didn't take too long for me to move onto Vice City (and then stop playing that a little while later). It'll probably be more impressive to run on a phone/tablet but it felt like an early tech demo compared to a lot of "modern" games.
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I wouldn't be surprised if it runs. The NC is a little gem. That said, how is it going to playable on a touchscreen? And... an honest question... is GTA III really that fun? I just picked it up in a steam pack and it didn't take too long for me to move onto Vice City (and then stop playing that a little while later). It'll probably be more impressive to run on a phone/tablet but it felt like an early tech demo compared to a lot of "modern" games.
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The entire screen is bound to controls, take a look at the picture of it on engadget... its a little overwhelming
Touchscreen controls urgh...
I still pair a PS3 Controller via Bluetooth every time I play PS1 / N64 games on my Nook... I really hope they add Bluetooth Controller support to the game.
Yeah, having real controller support would be nice. I did see the screenshots, and it's just really hard to play games with a virtual d-pad and even just *two* buttons (to me), let alone 6 or 8, especially when it includes what are supposed to be shoulder buttons.
On a side note, I mucked around a little with the onlive app, and that suffers from the same thing (the virtual controls). That said, OnLive does have newer, more compelling games, although it requires a constant, good data connection.
Nook Color seems to me to be able to push Dreamcast level graphics at 1024x600. Most games with that level of graphics seem to run at around 20-30fps at best.
The main reason GTA3 is so much more demanding than seems reasonable is that it's a sandbox game with a large, open world. It's not all that much different than say Elder Scrolls.
Game is out now and market says it should work on the NC. https://market.android.com/details?id=com.rockstar.gta3 Anyone got it to work?
It hangs Nook dead rght after intro movies. CM 7.1.0 Stable.
With chainfire nvidia plugin,screen stays black upon launching the app
soooo I take it as a no go. Darn. Well it works on my electrify but as stated earlier the controls take up way to much room. I'll try a wiimote I guess.
Anyone have any luck getting this to run? Would think it would be possible to and to control it with a PS3 controller connected via bluetooth.
Got it to work! Download GTA 3 version 1.1, use chainfire 3D and set default plugin to POWERVR, awful cellphone video below:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gKN9QRGq09E
EDIT: Will test more in the morning, jump to 1:00 to see 30 seconds of "gameplay" before I flip the car
why do we have to use the powervr plugin? nook color actually has a powervr gpu
I didnt need any plug in. I installed CM7 last night and gta was in "my apps" and it runs better than on my shift. Lol
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Here is a video showing that you can play Skyrim on the Transformer Prime using Splashtop THD and an XBOX remtote.
http://phandroid.com/2012/01/10/playing-skyrim-on-the-asus-transformer-prime-ces-2012/
"It only works when you combine an NVIDIA GeForce powered desktop computer with an NVIDIA Tegra 3 tablet, but the combination is impressive to say the least. Splashtop packetizes the video and delivers it via Wi-Fi to the Transformer Prime’s screen with minimal loss in video quality. With an XBOX remote connected directly to the Transformer Prime, we were playing Skyrim on our Android tablet as if it were no big deal."
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I know that must be cool. I just wish Bethesda would go on an create some games for tegra3 platform. I'd love to natively play Elderscrolls up here on the prime. Even if it was either of the older Xbox versions like Morrowind.
I admit that would be the best way. Maybe with the Android tablets getting more power for gaming, some of these game manufacturers might consider doing versions for tablets.
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I admit that would be the best way. Maybe with the Android tablets getting more power for gaming, some of these game manufacturers might consider doing versions for tablets.
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technically Tegra3 does have the power to do it, to some extent. Its just a matter of the developers hoping on board for Android/Tegra3 platform. If ipad1,with inferior specs, could have companies like epic use unreal engine and produce games like Infinity Blade or Rage HD, then it should be no Hassle at all to produce stuff for Tegra3.
I would also think that the Tegra SoC's offer a GPU more familiar to PC game developers than something like the Adreno's and stuff commonly in phones. But face facts: the count of Tegra chips out there versus iPads = not worth the money unless you already can do it for low investment, or are already seriously invested in Android game development.
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technically Tegra3 does have the power to do it, to some extent. Its just a matter of the developers hoping on board for Android/Tegra3 platform. If ipad1,with inferior specs, could have companies like epic use unreal engine and produce games like Infinity Blade or Rage HD, then it should be no Hassle at all to produce stuff for Tegra3.
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The game The Dark Meadow will be released Q1 2012 and is based on the Unreal 3 engine. So it looks like there might be hope.
From NVIDIA TegraZone
The Dark Meadow
Description
By incorporating high resolution textures and atmospheric real-time lighting effects, The Dark Meadow offers a haunting experience for your NVIDIA® Tegra™ powered mobile device.
By maximizing the graphic and gameplay horsepower of the Unreal Engine 3, The Dark Meadow by Phosphor Games Studio delivers a stunning first-person, action/adventure game where players fight to escape a dark fairytale world filled with fantastical creatures bent on destroying them.
Features:
Console quality graphics: Built to take advantage of the Unreal Engine 3.
Tegra enhanced: Taps into the multi-core processing power of the NVIDIA Tegra family of processors.
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I tried playing swtor through splashtop and using a mouse to control the camera didn't work out so well.
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I tried playing swtor through splashtop and using a mouse to control the camera didn't work out so well.
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This demo used a new version of Splashtop, Splashtop THD. It is specifically designed to run only with the Tegra processor. It only works when you combine an NVIDIA GeForce powered desktop computer with an NVIDIA Tegra 3 tablet.
Is your PC running an ATI or NVIDIA graphics card?
damn, i never saw that bit about "nvidia only" until now. very disappointing..
do you think this will work with a mac running an NVIDIA GPU
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This demo used a new version of Splashtop, Splashtop THD. It is specifically designed to run only with the Tegra processor. It only works when you combine an NVIDIA GeForce powered desktop computer with an NVIDIA Tegra 3 tablet.
Is your PC running an ATI or NVIDIA graphics card?
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My PC has an ATI card.
However, the issue is with how the mouse is controlled, not performance. Moving the mouse on the tablet does not move the mouse on the PC until after you either touch the screen or click the mouse. Holding down the mouse button to move created some weird effect which caused the camera to move erratically...
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My PC has an ATI card.
However, the issue is with how the mouse is controlled, not performance. Moving the mouse on the tablet does not move the mouse on the PC until after you either touch the screen or click the mouse. Holding down the mouse button to move created some weird effect which caused the camera to move erratically...
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I'm running a prime with an ATI powered PC as well, had success connecting and starting the game in windowed mode and moving about with the WASD controlls on the keyboard, but like you, I also had major issues with the camera trying to use a mouse. I couldn't get it to run smoothly as the camera swung around wildly.
Has anyone had success with this? And if so, what were the steps/setting used? This has been a major disappointment!
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I know that must be cool. I just wish Bethesda would go on an create some games for tegra3 platform. I'd love to natively play Elderscrolls up here on the prime. Even if it was either of the older Xbox versions like Morrowind.
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The TFP could easily run Morrowind or even Oblivion if Bethesda wanted to port them. They could actually make a lot of money if they did, but the chance is slim.
Oblivion runs on medium graphics very smoothly on my Windows 8 Acer W500. There's no doubt that the TFP could handle Oblivion.
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I'm running a prime with an ATI powered PC as well, had success connecting and starting the game in windowed mode and moving about with the WASD controlls on the keyboard, but like you, I also had major issues with the camera trying to use a mouse. I couldn't get it to run smoothly as the camera swung around wildly.
Has anyone had success with this? And if so, what were the steps/setting used? This has been a major disappointment!
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From what I could gather from the video was that it was run using a different version of Splashtop than the one installed on our Primes. It will be Splashtop THD and is not available as of yet. Maybe this new version will have better mouse/trackpad support. This demo was showing what is to come, not what is currently available.
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The TFP could easily run Morrowind or even Oblivion if Bethesda wanted to port them. They could actually make a lot of money if they did, but the chance is slim.
Oblivion runs on medium graphics very smoothly on my Windows 8 Acer W500. There's no doubt that the TFP could handle Oblivion.
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I have a feeling high quality gaming will take off very soon. Soon developers who makes games for apples will want the Android piece of pie also. More money to be made as more people own Android devices. Tegra3 optimized games or games geared towards high end tablets like this will pop up soon.
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do you think this will work with a mac running an NVIDIA GPU
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I saw on a local news last night showing some of whats at the macworld. One of which is the company that created splashtop and they had a Macbook connected to another windows laptop. They werent showing games though but just the windows screen on the mac. I assume its the non THD version mac version. I heard the rep mention splashtop (they didnt say THD) is available for iphone, ipad, and android. but I assume splashtop THD can and will probably be used across all platforms eventually if it were to follow splashtops (non THD) footstep.
Using the pre-installed Splashtop Remote Desktop app, I was able to run and successfully play Civilization V in windowed mode at my native desktop resolution (1680x1050) and it worked perfectly. Again, I'm using a TF201 and a windows based PC and ATI card.
With Skyrim it is boiling down to simply not being able to control the camera using a USB mouse plugged into the keyboard dock. Games which do not require extensive camera movement (real time strategies, the Sims, etc) they work perfectly and actually transition well to a touch screen.
Hopefully future updates will help. Also I'm going to continue to tweak around with game settings. If anyone else is having success, let me know.
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Here is a video showing that you can play Skyrim on the Transformer Prime using Splashtop THD and an XBOX remtote.
http://phandroid.com/2012/01/10/playing-skyrim-on-the-asus-transformer-prime-ces-2012/
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I used to play skyrim on my prime but then I took an arrow to the knee.
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jdeoxys said:
I used to play skyrim on my prime but then I took an arrow to the knee.
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you had to go there Haha
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I used to play skyrim on my prime but then I took an arrow to the knee.
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Why do some people randomly say that? Lol. Let me in on the joke..I don't get it lol
The thread title pretty much says it all - anyone got any ideas?
Splashtop is already pre-installed under the mynet icon, or whatever it's called, same icon you use to access the webstorage
you have 3 sections on the left, the middle one is Splashtop
Is that the HD one or regular?
the one installed is NOT THD. This is not out yet, havent found a release date
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Splashtop is already pre-installed under the mynet icon, or whatever it's called, same icon you use to access the webstorage
you have 3 sections on the left, the middle one is Splashtop
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Just an FYI....the installed splashtop is under the MyCloud icon.
THE op means the Tegra3 optimized version shown off at CES, Splashtop THD. THE ONE where the people used the THD version to play Elder Scrolls Skyrim on his Prime.
I haven't been able to find a release date on this either. Looking forward to the release, whenever it is.
So still no news on a release date at all? I'm dying for this app!
The Splashtop that comes loaded on the Transformer Prime is a slightly modified version of Splashtop HD. The OP is asking about Splashtop THD which is an upcoming version of Splashtop customized for Tegra-based tablets and devices.
Here is a video of Splashtop THD being used to play Skyrim.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=6nyg2kZfF5A
"Wow it just works..Wow it just works..Wow it just works.."
Well yeh it was the whole point of the demonstration.
My name is Optimus Prime and I send this message..
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Is there any real difference between the HD Splashtop and the THD Splashtop? Can someone explain in detail the differences between these two?
I'd like to know as well. Any news on the release date?
Damn it, I just bought Splashtop HD while it was on sale for $6.
Now I suppose I'm not going to get a free upgrade......
Must say the HD version already works perfectly fine... Will try skyrim on it to see how that goes and how the responsiveness is though. But believe I could watch a video fine (playing on the pc, watching it through splashtop hd on the tablet) already.
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Damn it, I just bought Splashtop HD while it was on sale for $6.
Now I suppose I'm not going to get a free upgrade......
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Why? Splashtop HD is already built into the prime under Mycloud. I have a market copy also because didn't know HD version was already included at first.
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Must say the HD version already works perfectly fine... Will try skyrim on it to see how that goes and how the responsiveness is though. But believe I could watch a video fine (playing on the pc, watching it through splashtop hd on the tablet) already.
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excited to see this work! fingers crossed
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excited to see this work! fingers crossed
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Didn't work... when starting skyrim splashtophd says it can not run apps with direct screen access and wants me to run it in windows mode. But in windows mode I just get a black window.
Also, the xbox360 controller blinks all 4 lights when connected (as opposed to 1 for 'player1' when connected to the pc) so dunno if that one works either.
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Didn't work... when starting skyrim splashtophd says it can not run apps with direct screen access and wants me to run it in windows mode. But in windows mode I just get a black window.
Also, the xbox360 controller blinks all 4 lights when connected (as opposed to 1 for 'player1' when connected to the pc) so dunno if that one works either.
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you get a thanks for trying. guess we just wait...
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Is there any real difference between the HD Splashtop and the THD Splashtop? Can someone explain in detail the differences between these two?
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Yes there is a difference between HD and THD. The THD version allows communication between Tegra 3 and your computers graphics card. I'm assuming so your host computers GPU can render the graphics specifically for the tablets pixel density and I imagine there is some sharing of the work as well to lesson lag. You will be able to play games in full screen and your computer HAS to have an Nvidia GPU or the THD version will not work for you.
The HD version is just like the original but optimized for tablets to take advantage of the larger screens and whatnot.
Any news on this? Can't find much on Google.
The HD version that comes with the Prime is okay, but it's pretty laggy. Nothing like what I see in that video where you can play a game on it. Looking forward to a better version.
Hey guys, So i'm new to the tablet world. I'm not sure what tablet i'm going to buy but at the moment i'm leaning towards the asus eee pad transformer prime. It looks like a pretty slick product. Any thoughts on that are welcome
But for my main question. I was going to buy this and use it as a video player at work until i saw the keyboard dock. Now i want a tablet that i can play some games on. Not just android apps. Maybe java based web games? And maybe even league of legends if possible.
I'm not sure if this is possible on this device or any at this time. A friend told me to wait for a windows 8 tablet but its not even sure that those can do it. So any advice in this area would be amazing
Thanks
Well I'm not really into tablet gaming, and I play some games on my TFP from time to time. As far as I know you can get gamepads working on the TFP. For LoL there is no Android version as far as I know. But I kinda successfully played Starcraft2 and Diablo 3 on the tablet with the Splashtop THD app... it basicly screens your desktop on the tablet. So you have to have you computer running and stuff. Also a good connection is needed for the streaming. But it's fun
I don't have the Internet speeds to remote to my computer and do it that way. So maybe I would be better off waiting on windows 8 tablets
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Does anyone else have any information on this?
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Hey I may be getting a nexus 10 soon, and I was wondering what's possible when using remote desktop apps (like "Splahtop 2") on the nexus 10.
I'm guessing there would be some input lag, but how bad do you think it would be? On the advertisement, they were playing diablo 3, and streaming 1080p through the app so i'm hopeful.
Will it be fast enough to play pc games, watch video or use other applications? This is assuming i'm in the same house as the pc which I would be streaming from.
What do you guys think?
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Hey I may be getting a nexus 10 soon, and I was wondering what's possible when using remote desktop apps (like "Splahtop 2") on the nexus 10.
What do you guys think?
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Yes, Splashtop 2 is fast enough for those uses. One fair warning is that the camera on some games is completely spastic when trying to control through Splashtop so not all games will be playable. Diablo 3 would probably work fine but I'm not sure why you would want to play that game.
I use Splashtop for remote server admin and it works great.
Thanks for the replies. Sounds like it could be a really useful app then
Anyone tried playing games using splash top (I think splashtop 2 is supposed to be a lot faster)
And diablo 3 isn't too bad! ;p
Splashtop 2 won't be ideal for games with any kind of 3D camera (most MMORPG/RPGs, FPS's, etc.). Games like Dota 2, osu!, WarCraft III, Diablo III, and Torchlight II however should be fine
Also, Diablo III is meh, but I find it more enjoyable when I don't read why other people dislike it
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Splashtop 2 won't be ideal for games with any kind of 3D camera (most MMORPG/RPGs, FPS's, etc.). Games like Dota 2, osu!, WarCraft III, Diablo III, and Torchlight II however should be fine
Also, Diablo III is meh, but I find it more enjoyable when I don't read why other people dislike it
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Is there no way of getting it to use a mouse/keyboard properly, so it actually moves the cursor on the computer when the mouse is moved (so games with a 3d camera could be used)? Playing GW2 or DOTA or something would be awesome.
Diablo 3 was a fun game. Nothing amazing, just fun
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Is there no way of getting it to use a mouse/keyboard properly, so it actually moves the cursor on the computer when the mouse is moved (so games with a 3d camera could be used)? Playing GW2 or DOTA or something would be awesome.
Diablo 3 was a fun game. Nothing amazing, just fun
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I've messed around with using a mouse+KB and haven't been successful with handling the camera in GW2.
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Is there no way of getting it to use a mouse/keyboard properly, so it actually moves the cursor on the computer when the mouse is moved (so games with a 3d camera could be used)? Playing GW2 or DOTA or something would be awesome.
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Not entirely sure. I have a drawing tablet for my PC, and I noticed it does the same thing in games with 3d cameras (i'll either look straight up or down and just spin around with any kind of movement).
The mouse control on Splashtop 2 doesn't seem to be absolute, but that doesn't really explain why cameras act that way still :/
As for an alternative to Splashtop 2, some other user on these forums mentioned "Kainy". Doesn't seem to be working great at all for me, but it's only $3, and can apparently be used anywhere (LAN or WAN) with no additional cost. And it claims games can go up to 60 FPS (Splashtop 2 is only 30 FPS, and 2 competitor apps can apparently only do 5 and 10 FPS lol).
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I've messed around with using a mouse+KB and haven't been successful with handling the camera in GW2.
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Thanks for the reply. Yeah I think the mouse is probably just an "indication" of where your finger is about to press, and not a proper mouse, if you get what I mean.
So if you've tried gw2, what's the frame rate like? How much input lag is there?
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Not entirely sure. I have a drawing tablet for my PC, and I noticed it does the same thing in games with 3d cameras (i'll either look straight up or down and just spin around with any kind of movement).
The mouse control on Splashtop 2 doesn't seem to be absolute, but that doesn't really explain why cameras act that way still :/
As for an alternative to Splashtop 2, some other user on these forums mentioned "Kainy". Doesn't seem to be working great at all for me, but it's only $3, and can apparently be used anywhere (LAN or WAN) with no additional cost. And it claims games can go up to 60 FPS (Splashtop 2 is only 30 FPS, and 2 competitor apps can apparently only do 5 and 10 FPS lol).
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I wonder if an xbox 360 controller would work when connected through usb... Doubt it though.
I suppose one alternative is a wireless mouse/keyboard connected to my actual laptop and then moved next to the nexus.
And thanks, I'll have a look at that other one. Doubt my laptop can play most games at 60fps anyway though
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