[Q] Application storage? - AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717

Really wanting to pick up one of these Notes but, as I learned with my HTC Desire, I ran out of space for my applications rather quickly (until I rooted it), so I'm wondering if the Note suffers from the same issue of not enough space on the stock RoM? I really don't feel like rooting it but if that's the solution then so be it but I'm a bit of an app whore and I need space for them all.
Thanks all.

Any input appreciated.... Probably still getting one but I just wondered if app space has been an issue for anyone?

You have 11gb after all the system files are on there. That should be plenty, and if it isn't you can always save apps to sd.
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On my old desire only 512 MB or so was dedicated to app storage so it got consumed quickly, just wasn't sure if the Note had a similar spec for its internal memory.
I made the mistake of going back to BlackBerry and I've been out of the android loop for a bit but I'm coming back!

Coffinfeeder said:
You have 11gb after all the system files are on there. That should be plenty, and if it isn't you can always save apps to sd.
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That is the internal sdcard for user storage...not apps
The data partition (where user apps are installed) is a bit over 2gb.
Way less than 11 but still should be plenty

Dangry said:
Any input appreciated.... Probably still getting one but I just wondered if app space has been an issue for anyone?
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Dude, I just bought the note about a 10 days ago, I'm not sure but it seems like i have a problem with the storage. My problem is that, I downloaded many games and all the data of those games that i downloaded stored automatically to the internal memory of the phone not to my SD card. Now my 32 GB SD is empty and my phone memory is full. I don't know what to do, if I ever move any of the data to my SD card then i can't play that game it will asked to download the data again. My phone is not rooted. I was wondering if rooted, does it going to help.

abakarxda said:
Dude, I just bought the note about a 10 days ago, I'm not sure but it seems like i have a problem with the storage. My problem is that, I downloaded many games and all the data of those games that i downloaded stored automatically to the internal memory of the phone not to my SD card. Now my 32 GB SD is empty and my phone memory is full. I don't know what to do, if I ever move any of the data to my SD card then i can't play that game it will asked to download the data again. My phone is not rooted. I was wondering if rooted, does it going to help.
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Can't u click menu on some of those games and see if it will allow you to place backups or saved data to another file? And redirect it to external sd card ?

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Just move the data to your SD card.
It should look like this after.
-Once you go NOTE, you'd say 4 inches a Joke

abakarxda said:
Dude, I just bought the note about a 10 days ago, I'm not sure but it seems like i have a problem with the storage. My problem is that, I downloaded many games and all the data of those games that i downloaded stored automatically to the internal memory of the phone not to my SD card. Now my 32 GB SD is empty and my phone memory is full. I don't know what to do, if I ever move any of the data to my SD card then i can't play that game it will asked to download the data again. My phone is not rooted. I was wondering if rooted, does it going to help.
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Apps can only be saved to the ~16 GB on the phone/internal sd card. The external is pretty much for music/videos/pictures. You can root, install titanium backup and backup apps to external SD. Then if you run out of space, uninstall less used items and you can restore from where you left it vs re downloading and starting over. Not perfect, but it's this way on a few phones (Droid bionic comes to mind)
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I call Samsung and they told me the phone was designed like that. There is nothing to do
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Mine is on its way! Can't wait, bout to poo my slacks! LOL

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WTF is up with my storage? cant install anything!

I hope somebody can help me with this cause Im not too happy right now. 2 days ago I bought a Samsung Galaxy Player 4.0 and Ive signed into my Google Accounts so I can install my apps.
The device has 8GB of memory, Ive installed only 12 games yet the device tells me I do not have enough room to install more ?!?!? WTF ! I have 8GB of storage.
When I go to settings, SD Card and Device Storage it shows I have 5GB of space left.
Then I plugged the device into my computer to see if I can copy over some music, 1.25 GB worth copied to the device with no problem leaving me over 3GB of space so whats the deal? why cant I install a 20mb app but I can copy over a gig of music?
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That's happened to me a few times. Try clearing Market cache in Menu > Applications > Market and reboot
I am curious... what error are you getting from your phone?
I get a "can't install on USE or SD card" error....
And its getting worse...
I have like 30 meg free... and get an error installing a 4 meg file...
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redpirate8 said:
That's happened to me a few times. Try clearing Market cache in Menu > Applications > Market and reboot
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If you meant Settings>Applications>Manage Applications I just did that and the option to clear the cache is greyed out and its already set at zero.
rignfool said:
I am curious... what error are you getting from your phone?
I get a "can't install on USE or SD card" error....
And its getting worse...
I have like 30 meg free... and get an error installing a 4 meg file...
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the exact error reads:
Error
Error downloading "world of goo". there is insufficient space on the device.
JonGarrett said:
the exact error reads:
Error
Error downloading "world of goo". there is insufficient space on the device.
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Hi,
I'm still new to the SGP5 (in my case), but if you can, try to get something like App2SD installed. That tells you how much "internal" (not sure what its called on the SGPs) memory is available. At least on another device I have (a Droid), even though you have lots of space available, they only allocated a relatively small amount for "system", which is where apps normally go, so you can run out of that "system" space way before using up all of the internal SD space.
Apps like App2SD/App2SD pro will "move" parts of some apps (not all apps are "moveable") to the external microSD, leaving a much smaller "footprint" in the internal SD.
Jim
This is quite common, what you want to do is clear all the cache and everything else. To do this go to the Sd card or root of device and deleting the tmp folder and going into android and deleting other cache related to the device. Thats how mine got fixed.
hey thanks for the info. I was beginning to think I had a defective device. I wound up installing my apps a little bit at a time, took me a couple of hours. for some I actually had to side load them.
I will definitely get App2SD and see how that works.
This device is a Xmas gift for my 8yr old because he likes my Galaxy S II more than the iPhone 4 I gave him. he would not have been able to put all the games on it so I figured Id open it up and at least put all the games on it.
thanks again for your help.
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hey thanks for the info. I was beginning to think I had a defective device. I wound up installing my apps a little bit at a time, took me a couple of hours. for some I actually had to side load them.
I will definitely get App2SD and see how that works.
This device is a Xmas gift for my 8yr old because he likes my Galaxy S II more than the iPhone 4 I gave him. he would not have been able to put all the games on it so I figured Id open it up and at least put all the games on it.
thanks again for your help.
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Hi,
Mind you, not all apps will be moveable. I'm not sure of the technical details, but I think they have to be written a certain way to be moveable. In any event, a nice side benefit of apps like App2SD/App2SD Pro is that they will show you the space available for apps, so you get an idea about how much "headroom" you have.
Good luck,
Jim
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[Q] Join external SD with internal storage/SD?

Hi!
I have a Samsung device of 8GB with an SD card of additional 32GB.
I'm using many apps that cache data for offline use (mainly Google Play Music), these apps are not smart enough to determine the 32GB of available space and take advantage of it, but instead claim 'no space'.
I thought perhaps there is a workaround for it by merging the external storage with the internal so the apps 'think' there is 48GB.
I don't use several SD cards which means I'm not gonna switch SDs back and forth any time soon.
Do you know a hack for it? Or any solution to make Google Music store its stuff into all available space wherever it is?
I've read this link, which I believe targets my issue, but since I'm not so much into Android development, I didn't understand it, can anyone refer me or translate it into a more detailed guide.
P.S. My device is rooted.
Have you tried this?
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.buak.Link2SD
Works on many devices but requires root. As you've already got that give it a try
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Alex Charles said:
Have you tried this?
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.buak.Link2SD
Works on many devices but requires root. As you've already got that give it a try
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OK I managed to install it.
It only gives an option to move from internal storage to SD card, I wanna use EXTERNAL SD, havent managed to find that option.
NullUser said:
Hi!
I have a Samsung device of 8GB with an SD card of additional 32GB.
I'm using many apps that cache data for offline use (mainly Google Play Music), these apps are not smart enough to determine the 32GB of available space and take advantage of it, but instead claim 'no space'.
I thought perhaps there is a workaround for it by merging the external storage with the internal so the apps 'think' there is 48GB.
I don't use several SD cards which means I'm not gonna switch SDs back and forth any time soon.
Do you know a hack for it? Or any solution to make Google Music store its stuff into all available space wherever it is?
I've read this link, which I believe targets my issue, but since I'm not so much into Android development, I didn't understand it, can anyone refer me or translate it into a more detailed guide.
P.S. My device is rooted.
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I have not seen anyone successfully join the two cards on the galaxy player. However on the player series you can change your internal and external cards around. This means your 32GB card will become your internal sd card and the 8GB card will become the external card. However, this means you cannot remove your 32GB card as you are effectively removing the internal memory which leads to a range of issues. Also depending on the class of your 32GB card you may see a performance increase/decrease when reading from or writing to the system.
there is a free app on the market called "gl to sd" it was build for playing gameloft games from external sd but it can be configured for any other app..al data will store on external sd..I use it for a long time for every bigger game like max payne..with out it i would fill that 5 gb long time ago.It basicly mounts data folder of that app on external insted of internal sd.
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I'm guessing no one has been to make the external storage as default yet? I have the Galaxy Player 4.2 was wondering the same thing.
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asheehanjr said:
I'm guessing no one has been to make the external storage as default yet? I have the Galaxy Player 4.2 was wondering the same thing.
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It can be done eaisily ..just change original vold.fstab with one from this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1377746 and external will be internal (default) and versa ...just backup original file.
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DZonikg said:
It can be done eaisily ..just change original vold.fstab with one from this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1377746 and external will be internal (default) and versa ...just backup original file.
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I would try that if there was a root for the 4.2 but, I can't right now. Thanks for the info though!
asheehanjr said:
I would try that if there was a root for the 4.2 but, I can't right now. Thanks for the info though!
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Android device with out the root..that is sad
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DZonikg said:
Android device with out the root..that is sad
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Yea tell me about it! lol. Hopefully something will happen soon.

WTF !! how do I resolve this problem. low memory

Hey,
Im a hoarder and I have way to much **** on my phone so from time to time I have to uninstall apps to free up space. Ive moved some games to my micro SD card and deleted others. all my music, pictures and other **** is on my SD card., the only thing I keep on the phone is installed apps.
attached is a screen shot that shows I have 2gigs of pictures, videos in my USB storage but I dont have any pictures or videos in my USB storage.
I found a few videos that games use for their intro but they are nowhere near 2gigs.
can somebody tell me how to resolve this issue.
thnx.
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Stop hoarding.
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The pics are not actually on your phone. Do the math. Total memory - Applications = about Available. Think about it. If you only have 10.84GB total how can you have 15.58GB Misc files? It is how the phone is set up to work. If you need space then lose some apps. You can't possibly need that many applications.
Agoattamer said:
The pics are not actually on your phone. Do the math. Total memory - Applications = about Available. Think about it. If you only have 10.84GB total how can you have 15.58GB Misc files? It is how the phone is set up to work. If you need space then lose some apps. You can't possibly need that many applications.
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I have 16GB on board and a 32GB micro SD card. Ive moved all of my apps over 25mb to the SD card. there's no way the few apps I have is taking up that much space. Im figuring that apps that Ive uninstalled (namely Gameloft apps) have left a lot of junk behind.
I once rooted an S2 and found 10gb of data left behind from Gameloft apps that I uninstalled.
I dont want to root my note though because I wasn't too happy with the rooted S2 that I had.
You don't understand. You have 16GB of internal memory. That includes your ROM, 1.97GB of internal storage, and 10.84GB of USB storage. Apps are installed to the internal storage. If you move apps to the sd card you are in fact not moving them to an external sd card but the internal sd card/usb storage.
Yes it is possible you have gameloft or EA remnants left behind.
Agoattamer said:
You don't understand. You have 16GB of internal memory. That includes your ROM, 1.97GB of internal storage, and 10.84GB of USB storage. Apps are installed to the internal storage. If you move apps to the sd card you are in fact not moving them to an external sd card but the internal sd card/usb storage.
Yes it is possible you have gameloft or EA remnants left behind.
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Dude are you serious? wow, I didn't know that. is it even possible to actually move those apps to my physical SD card--is there an app for that? lol. I use App 2 SD Pro.
Do a search on XDA for "Directory Bind". It will help you move folders of game data like gameloft games to the external sd card.
JonGarrett said:
Dude are you serious? wow, I didn't know that. is it even possible to actually move those apps to my physical SD card--is there an app for that? lol. I use App 2 SD Pro.
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GL to SD app is very good for moving games data.
shayind4 said:
GL to SD app is very good for moving games data.
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Having same issue as op. Trying This option now. Thanks.
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Dude, where's my memory?

Anyone have any idea where all my internal memory is going.
I realized that I only had 2.85gb of memory on my internal sd
I deleted some crazy but I truly have no idea where it's getting these numbers.
It shows I have 7.83gb in miscellaneous files. When I opened it and added the files size up, it only comes to 2.07gb.
Not only that. I completely cleared my download folder and it still shows 20mb usage.
Damn I miss my 32gb s3
Am I missing something?
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Does it show something different from your computer when you plug it in?
Do you have any games or apps that downloaded extra data? Gameloft games love to use your internal storage and ignore the SD card.
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Does it show something different from your computer when you plug it in?
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No my computer matches up.
Link. said:
Do you have any games or apps that downloaded extra data? Gameloft games love to use your internal storage and ignore the SD card.
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Not a game guy. Just angry birds star wars. But that shows up under apps
Music from Google Play Music?
imnuts said:
Music from Google Play Music?
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Im guessing music also. Turn off automatically cache in google music.
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Try SD Maid and look at the Biggest Files tab.
imnuts said:
Music from Google Play Music?
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I just unchecked the Automatically cache on Google music. Made no difference
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Try SD Maid and look at the Biggest Files tab.
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Ill give it a run thanks
I had that problem before on this phone but I just did a full wipe and started over and it was fine but I could not tell ya what caused it cause I haven't been really even using too many apps and games cause I have been too busy flashin different roms and playin around with the phone.. I have been being a huge slacker... If it's not too hard for ya I would just backup everything with TB and start over and then restore with NO app data included. I do it all the time but I have been crackflashin for years so I got it down to a science now. lol It is a pain though so if you can figure it out it would be better, of course.
** And YES, I do miss my 32gb S3 sometimes**
Okay. Downloaded SD maid.
Pretty much tells me exactly what I've seen on my storage tab.
I did clean some corpses (lol) but nothing out of the ordinary.
Don't mind the Six Feet deep episodes, those are on my SD card.
Btw, as far as roms go. I've only flashed beans v2 and I always fully wipe and never restore with data, ever.
I also have never had a problem with a rom, and I credit that towards always wiping clean. So what it takes a few more minutes to set up. At least you know it's a fresh install right?
So it looks like your 4GB of TWRP backups were the culprit?
Edit: Oops - I guess only 1.44 GB of the TWRP backups were on the internal SD.
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Okay. Downloaded SD maid.
Pretty much tells me exactly what I've seen on my storage tab.
I did clean some corpses (lol) but nothing out of the ordinary.
Don't mind the Six Feet deep episodes, those are on my SD card.
Btw, as far as roms go. I've only flashed beans v2 and I always fully wipe and never restore with data, ever.
I also have never had a problem with a rom, and I credit that towards always wiping clean. So what it takes a few more minutes to set up. At least you know it's a fresh install right?
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YUP! I am just sayin that something is not right and if you do it again and the problem is gone then "problem solved" ... But I didn't know if that was something you wanted to try? I went from the International Note 2 to the T-mobile Note 2 and now am on the Verizon Note 2 and I have seen this issue but I just don't have an answer for ya...?
EDIT: You do have some TWRP backups in your system files (in your internal storage) The one at the top anyways...
I'm confused about the Twrp backups. I only have 1 in there and it's the stock rooted backup.
This is my first time using Twrp. Maybe I'm doing something wrong.
I have been using clockwork for the past 2 years. Flashed hundreds of roms from my OG DX, DX2, Bionic, Gnex, Sgs3 and now Note 2. Never had this issue on CWMR
Hmmm here's how I interpret it...
7.83 GB of Miscellaneous files
5.77 GB of which are dedicated to System Memory.
2.06 GB remain
1.62 GB of that being TWRP
0.44 GB dedicated to everything else listed.
I wonder what is in Note II's Android OS that requires 5.77 GB of memory.
TouchWiz is a big *****
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Just want you to know that you're not alone. Stock, I had those 5gb and now on Beans 3 it's still there. I've wiped more times than after eating dirty mexican food and nothing seems to work. I'll be creeping this thread hoping someone finds an answer.
I also have 5.77GB of Miscellaneous Items. Granted reading that post earlier 5.77GB dedicated to System Memory. So yeah. I guess mines alright.
FormeriPhoney said:
I just unchecked the Automatically cache on Google music. Made no difference
Ill give it a run thanks
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That is because it doesn't delete the previous cache, AFAIK.

2GB gone from internal storage?

Hey everyone!
So. Mum has been nagging forever because her Moto e kept on saying there's not enough storage yadda yadda.
Now, here I thought she had been downloading too many candy crush ripoffs, but I've been digging around a bit and it looks like... 2GB are just... Gone!
I couldn't find what was taking so much space, so I used a few storage analysis apps. They all gave me the same information: the unmovable apps on her phone occupied no more than 2.5GB.
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Is it normal?
She's using stock 6.0 rom, using sdcard as internal.
Any pointers would be much appreciated.
Thanks in advance!
ygtenos said:
Hey everyone!
So. Mum has been nagging forever because her Moto e kept on saying there's not enough storage yadda yadda.
Now, here I thought she had been downloading too many candy crush ripoffs, but I've been digging around a bit and it looks like... 2GB are just... Gone!
I couldn't find what was taking so much space, so I used a few storage analysis apps. They all gave me the same information: the unmovable apps on her phone occupied no more than 2.5GB.
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Here are two screenshots from the analysis app. I just don't understand why there's such a discrepancy!
Is it normal?
She's using stock 6.0 rom, using sdcard as internal.
Any pointers would be much appreciated.
Thanks in advance!
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Have you tried cleaning your cache.
Also I know this is not recommended by many but installing the 360 security lite app and cleaning usually clears up space without deleting any data. This has always worked for me on the stock ROM. For course once you clean up your phone delete the app cause it's really shady.
ayush rao said:
Have you tried cleaning your cache.
Also I know this is not recommended by many but installing the 360 security lite app and cleaning usually clears up space without deleting any data. This has always worked for me on the stock ROM. For course once you clean up your phone delete the app cause it's really shady.
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Thanks for your suggestion buddy.
Just tried with 360. It did clean up some space, but it was mainly cache and random useless files. Charming, but unfortunately not what I needed.
The internal memory still seems to be lacking these 2 phantom gigabytes and I really have no idea where they might have gone.
Meh!
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ygtenos said:
Thanks for your suggestion buddy.
Just tried with 360. It did clean up some space, but it was mainly cache and random useless files. Charming, but unfortunately not what I needed.
The internal memory still seems to be lacking these 2 phantom gigabytes and I really have no idea where they might have gone.
Meh!
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On reading your post again, it struck to me that the pre-installed apps (Moto Display, Google, YouTube etc.) hog a lot of space. It was becoz of this I had rooted my phone and used system app Uninstaller to remove the Google apps I didn't use.
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Definitely! I already disabled all the apps my mum doesn't need.
But again, the problem does not lie in the actual space the apps take! It's just that the data partition says that is 4.5 gigs full, but when I try and look up what is taking up all this space it says there are only 2.5 gigs of apps (apk+data+cache) since I moved everything else on the SD card.
So, again, where are these 2 gigabytes?
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ygtenos said:
Definitely! I already disabled all the apps my mum doesn't need.
But again, the problem does not lie in the actual space the apps take! It's just that the data partition says that is 4.5 gigs full, but when I try and look up what is taking up all this space it says there are only 2.5 gigs of apps (apk+data+cache) since I moved everything else on the SD card.
So, again, where are these 2 gigabytes?
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I knw this will be an inconvenience but try and format device. I've noticed that often when I phone is updated thought an OTA without wiping data, so issues arise.
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That's what I did in the end. Thing is, I didn't update through ota, I flashed the update manually. Seems like it's fixed now, but I'm not 100% sure.
Thanks for the help buddy.
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