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Hi everyone
A lot of Chinese (non licensed) phones won't allow paid apps to be downloaded from the android market. On the other hand, I DO have a Chinese "no name" phone that downloads everything, including paid apps.
I'm trying to find out where all the information is located how the android market identifies the android device and either allows to download paid apps or denies it
My first guess of course was the build.prob, my friend copied the build.prob from my (paid apps download working) phone to his paid apps non working phone, NO SUCCESS, he still can't download any paid apps with my build.prob.
So, I'm guess there have to be other files(?) that also play a role on how a phone is recognized by the market?
Any suggestions?
Thanks
I don't think you are using official market...
And cheating is not recommended here
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melvinchng said:
I don't think you are using official market...
And cheating is not recommended here
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Excuse me?
Of course I am trying to download paid apps from the official market, where else would I download paid apps?
And what you do mean by cheating? I don't want to cheat anyone, all I want is to fix a phone so I can buy apps from the OFFICIAL android market with that phone as well
Edit: Maybe I should keep it simpler? Here's the situation:
The official android market lets me buy apps when I am using my Chinese Phone A
When I try to buy apps with my Chinese Phone B, the download won't work, I can only download free apps.
What I want is to be able to buy apps with phone B as well. Nothing illegal, I just want to give Google some of my money
ColonelZap said:
Excuse me?
Of course I am trying to download paid apps from the official market, where else would I download paid apps?
And what you do mean by cheating? I don't want to cheat anyone, all I want is to fix a phone so I can buy apps from the OFFICIAL android market with that phone as well
Edit: Maybe I should keep it simpler? Here's the situation:
The official android market lets me buy apps when I am using my Chinese Phone A
When I try to buy apps with my Chinese Phone B, the download won't work, I can only download free apps.
What I want is to be able to buy apps with phone B as well. Nothing illegal, I just want to give Google some of my money
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The main problem is that google doesnt allow China based phones to do this. There are reasons for this. It could also be that the phone tells the market where you are based on location.
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The main problem is that google doesnt allow China based phones to do this. There are reasons for this. It could also be that the phone tells the market where you are based on location.
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That's what I'm trying to bring out. Because it is non licences phone, it won't allow you to do so. Even it is open source, phone maker still need to buy the license (Android 2.3 and above, the higher the os is, The more expensive it is. 2.2 and below is free ) from Google.
You can try using amazon if you want to burn some cash.
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Because it is non licences phone, it won't allow you to do so.
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Like I wrote before, I DO have a Chinese phone that is definitely not licensed ( a Xperia Arc S clone) and that phone lets be me buy my apps
When I check all my devices on my pc when I login to the market, it is listed as "unknown" but still I can download any paid app I want to.
So, somehow this phone is identified as "o.k.", while other Chineses phones are not.
I'm just trying to find out what file(s) on the phone is responsibe for that, it can't just be the build.prob, I don't know this but I have the feeling the information must also be somewhere else?
Also, it can't be a valid or invalid IMEI because the same problem exists with some tablets pcs. Some are able to download paid apps, some are not and none of the have a GSM unit build in and there no IMEIs present.
That's why I was asking here, I was hoping somebody might know more about how the android market identifies a device
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Like I wrote before, I DO have a Chinese phone that is definitely not licensed ( a Xperia Arc S clone) and that phone lets be me buy my apps
When I check all my devices on my pc when I login to the market, it is listed as "unknown" but still I can download any paid app I want to.
So, somehow this phone is identified as "o.k.", while other Chineses phones are not.
I'm just trying to find out what file(s) on the phone is responsibe for that, it can't just be the build.prob, I don't know this but I have the feeling the information must also be somewhere else?
Also, it can't be a valid or invalid IMEI because the same problem exists with some tablets pcs. Some are able to download paid apps, some are not and none of the have a GSM unit build in and there no IMEIs present.
That's why I was asking here, I was hoping somebody might know more about how the android market identifies a device
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What is your arc s clone 7th and 8th imei numbr and you current phone 7th and 8th imei number?
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ColonelZap said:
Like I wrote before, I DO have a Chinese phone that is definitely not licensed ( a Xperia Arc S clone) and that phone lets be me buy my apps
When I check all my devices on my pc when I login to the market, it is listed as "unknown" but still I can download any paid app I want to.
So, somehow this phone is identified as "o.k.", while other Chineses phones are not.
I'm just trying to find out what file(s) on the phone is responsibe for that, it can't just be the build.prob, I don't know this but I have the feeling the information must also be somewhere else?
Also, it can't be a valid or invalid IMEI because the same problem exists with some tablets pcs. Some are able to download paid apps, some are not and none of the have a GSM unit build in and there no IMEIs present.
That's why I was asking here, I was hoping somebody might know more about how the android market identifies a device
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Hi, I have same problem....I've buyed Star A3 from china, and the paid apps I've buied I can't download it from the market it say to me impossible download "app name" error , I've make some try....modding myself rom mixed with other phone rom I've made a success ,but the mixed rom give me a lot of problem, I've changed to default rom adn still have same problem, I've also try to change some references at build.prop and now my phone is recognized from the android market like a samsung galaxy s gt-i9000 but still no work.....
excuse for my poor english
Have you tried Market Enabler?
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pirolisi80 said:
yes I've tried
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Me, too, that doesn't do the job.
Question remains if all the impotant info in stored in the build.prob or what other file(s) might also be important in order how a device is recognized by the android market.
ColonelZap said:
Me, too, that doesn't do the job.
Question remains if all the impotant info in stored in the build.prob or what other file(s) might also be important in order how a device is recognized by the android market.
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can you pubblish here your build.prop?
edit: please
This is the build.prob from my x18i phone that lets me download paid apps:
As you seen I've tried to change build.prop with yours until the build proprites I've also delete data and cache from market apk service framework and partner setup...for a clean try...but nothing I can't download my paid app from my market....thanks whathever...excuse me ror my poor english I hope you understand my words
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No problem understandig you I'm not surprised it didn't work, I still think the information must be stored elsewhere beside the build.prob, if only I knew were, hence this thread
if it's possible can you upload system /app folder from your phone....I think is in this folder the solution...bye
pirolisi80 said:
if it's possible can you upload system /app folder from your phone....I think is in this folder the solution...bye
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You really think so? That's the last place I would have guessed.
Here you go:
http://chinamobiles.org/downloads/zap/appx18i.zip
Let us know if you find anything
You could try this solution:
http://www.slatedroid.com/wiki/index.php/Fix_Market_For_Slates#Get_AndroidID_From_A_Phone
Essentially it involves finding the androidID on your phone (or emulator) where the market works using
Code:
adb shell sqlite3 /data/data/com.google.android.googleapps/databases/gls.db "select * from meta";
and then copying that to the phone where the market doesn't work using
Code:
adb shell sqlite3 /data/data/com.google.android.googleapps/databases/gls.db "update meta set intvalue='idnumber_from_above' where name='androidId'";
It's not a ROM fix but at least it might help some people.
Im suspicious of things you can buy jenga for 10p today but i can't understand why it wants phone call permissions? Why would a game want to know my phone number and call status? I can't think of a single reason, is there one?
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sgs2_user said:
Im suspicious of things you can buy jenga for 10p today but i can't understand why it wants phone call permissions? Why would a game want to know my phone number and call status? I can't think of a single reason, is there one?
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Might have to do with this:
In Android Market Jenga Goto News Tab --> in "What new in this version":
"CHAT"
"Send a text message to your opponent with each move in an Online game"
Fair enough, i would just use the internet, not sure my what partner would need my phone number. Plenty of games use the internet without needing to know who im currently phoning, i think I'll leave this one!
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Android apps that have silly requests for permissions is the worst aspect of Android.
I rooted and installed lbe security which allows me to block some permissions after the install.and asks with a pop up for requests at other times.
You have reason to be suspicious.
Good reason.
But most of it is just collected and used to better advertise to you.
Welcome to the cloud.
With the all seeing eye.
nutpants said:
Android apps that have silly requests for permissions is the worst aspect of Android.
I rooted and installed lbe security which allows me to block some permissions after the install. you.
Welcome to the cloud.
With the all seeing eye.
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Wow man, im lucky to read this far and to gain this great tip!
I know its off topic but THNKS =)
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I agree,
you have to be suspicious.
Even better than LBE (and the best if combined) is CyanogenMod with the possibility to block ALL the permissions (have to consider which you block btw => FC's)
But games want to know your phone status to be able to pause when a call is coming in, I guess... Not sure though.
Muta
Ah will try that nut pants!
Ah yes, phone interruption, that will be it!
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Wich permisions can i block?
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Any you don't like i guess as long as it doesn't break the app
So i saw a single player game that wanted my Gps...why? And can it access Gps history?
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just root your phone and download denied permissions
How is an app that has automated settings for denied permissions going to help ME understand wich permissions i can block.
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The same goes with me...
You can block anything that a phone may not support (any developer that makes an app that crashes because you have no internet should not bee installed)
I remove everything I don't like (which is everything) and bring back what I'm willing to allow if it FC's.
Google needs to have developers give full reasons for required permissions.some developers already do that, they are the ones I support.other I email to ask and i am fully willing to rate badly if no response.
Some one should start a Android full disclosure group to work together to get the info every one wants.
And get start up control (or something like that) you would not believe how many apps fire up when you get a text or change your network connectivity.
If any one knows of a Android security website or forum post it here.I have not found one worth reading.
You suggestion seems like it could benifit loads of people. It seems like you already have a good grasp what 2 ask the developers for. Maybe you can make up an format for me and others who are willing to email devs to get some awnsers.
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I've had my i9100 for 5 months and just rooted last month. Before that I was on windows mobile, after10 years using a wm phone I bailed on ms forever because of all the unacceptable "features"of windows phone. I believe in security and being anonymous as possible to big corporate interests.Android being open source was my only choice as apple is closed and militant about it, even more so than Ms. (and imagine my horror to see all the permissions on my phone)
But to be honest I know much more about what I don't like than I know how to fix it.
I do know that Google makes more money from advertising and knowing the actions and preferences of its users than any other company in history.the app developers make as much money or more from advertising than from selling their apps.and in sure some make money by learning what you like and don't.
And almost none of them will abandon that source of cash.
When ics is out and ready for my device I will go to cm9ics and it's security options built in the kernel.
I hope some one builds a locked down Android that randomly fakes all the privacy questionable permissions so all apps work.but I don't think that will ever happen. None of the big movers in the phone market want that.
As for finding out why a developer asks for a permission just mail them and ask.if you don't like the answer uninstall and rate it why you removed it.
some times permissions are there for options that you may love like your keyboard needing your contact list so it can spell your friends names. But is there really a reason for that keyboard to have internet access?
Carrier IQ brought into the open just what your phone might do with it you knowing.sadly most phones don't need an extra app to monitor your every move.
Don't even get me started on the"cloud" and all the bad things it represents.
as I learn more I'll share more but right now I feel like a very big man in a very small boat fishing for information in a very big sea.
Good luck out there
I totally understand your feelings. And agree on most of it. I wrote an essay about digital privacy a few years back. The thing is i know my every digital move is being monitered and stored. I think your best option is to build a cutom rom .. maybe 1 wich feed the apps with bogus information. That way you can get the apps you like help the developers get random data/ advertising revenue and stay anonimous.
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Hi, I'm looking for a lock app for my phone and this one seems to be the best, ton of useful features, and i have installed and used it before and loved it.
However upon reviewing the permissions, i've gotten a bit cautious. It has quite a few permissions which seem shady, any i'm aware that as it locks any app you choose it may need to access certain permissions, without these permissions it may not be able to lock a specific app but some of the permissions seem off.
It does have between 1 - 5 million downloads, and every review, including my personal opinion, seems to be positive but the permissions seem odd.
I've emailed the dev to see what he says, but i'd like some second opinions
Smart App Protector - Google Play Page
is it safe?
For me several permissions make no sense (why this app need access to my sms, personal info or the phone dialer?).
If the developer answers your email, please let us know
I use this app, that does basically the same thing and doesn't require a lot of permissions:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.domobile.applock
I've actually used this app myself (great one btw ) and I was cautious at first about the Permissions but then I figured that it probably needed them for example;
One of the Permissions is "Read SMS".
It probably needs this to be able to kick into action if somebody (or you) open the app. If it didn't have that permission then I'd presume it'd just let you in to the app. Even if you told it to ask for a password.
Just my two cents. I'm not certain about this but, thats what I figured...
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I've actually used this app myself (great one btw ) and I was cautious at first about the Permissions but then I figured that it probably needed them for example;
One of the Permissions is "Read SMS".
It probably needs this to be able to kick into action if somebody (or you) open the app. If it didn't have that permission then I'd presume it'd just let you in to the app. Even if you told it to ask for a password.
Just my two cents. I'm not certain about this but, thats what I figured...
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I agree but something like permission to make phone calls strikes me as odd, that shouldn't be necessary to bar access to the phone app. Also App Lock doesn't require this permission
BUMP, really need help with this
If anyone else is interested, i got a reply from the dev (he's korean)
Hello,
First of all, Protector has many permission, so I can't explain all.
And Free version has Advertisement,(so it has Call permission) so It has permission more than Pro version.
I hope that you believe my Protector.
Thanks.
PS. Sorry for my English.
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I'm going to use another app to block the permissions that seem odd and see if the app can still do it's job. I'll report back to say how it goes. I'm sure someone might use this in the future.
I'm using this app in pro too and wondered about the permissions... I've not had any issues so far but am interested in what you find..
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I got this further reply.
Hello,
There are no unnecessary permissions. all permission is needed for Advertisement and features.
(but Call permission isn't used but it is needed for Ad SDK default permission - Ad SDK is other company library)
Thanks.
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I trust it enough to use it, but am going to block some of the more curious permissions with this app.
If, after millions of downloads, it stays up and has decent reviews, I would trust it.
Hi all. I've been following XDA for a long time. But since i am more into the hardware i need some help with the software.
I ordered a Bedove I5 from Uredeal.com . And i am not sure if the chinese have put some code in it which make all the things that goes over the internet is send trought there servers.
Whenever i open a chat (whatsapp, fb messenger etc.) and send something. It has a time stamp of 6 hours later. And messages i receive have a normal time stamp. This also happens with multiplayer games like wordfeud. an active game says for 6 hours long that its 0 seconds ago i made a move. and after 6 hours its going to count. I even got an email from google that someone in china tried to login to my account but they blocked it. I want to use my mobile also for mobile banking but with this in my mind its just not save and i dont want to take the risk.
If i manage to make a back-up from my rom, can someone take a look at it and if possible fix it for me (clean up my rom)?
I thank the person(s) that are willing to help me in advanced.
If someone knows a link to a clean rom for my device. Feel free to post.
Edit: I couldnt find one by myself.
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IMO, its more likely a poorly written ROM than spying going on. Either way I'd steer away from Chinese imports. It's not worth it. Spend a bit more for a real phone.
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How can you comfirm that? It can be both ways. But since i use this phone people out of china try to get on my gmail acc. So by this i think your argument false.
And the quality of chinese phones are getting higher and higher. I have totally no negative points about the phone. Its a good product. It doesnt even freeze which i see at most smartphone models. Everything workes good as it should be. No wifi or connectivity problems.
Ill try to root it and make a backup so people can look at it. And confirm if its a bad rom or spying. My feeling says spying.
There are some apps on it with the title in chinese. Cant delete them without root and dont know if they contain system information or the information they send everyting to...
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Have you tried to do a factory reset?
-kinetix118
I managed to make a back-up with mtkdroidtools. The funny thing is. When i finished the back-up. I saw a function in mtkdroidtools named "remove china". I tried that button with the temp root. and it removed all the chinese apps that where in the root of the phone and that the time and everything else is ok now.
I cant place the link to the back-up since i got less then 10 posts. I can private message it to someone who can post the link to here.
- Suiding
Hello,
So i was using an app called Razzy, it's an app like Twitter but to share things anonymously. I got banned for bad language, it was my bad, i admit it.
But i just wanted to know which ways the software developers are banning users. I just rooted my phone. I tried to change android id and use different internet but it did not worked.
Any ideas?
Thanks
EDIT: Changed device id, deleted all app cache and data; it worked!