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I currently have an XDA and want to upgrade to something but I want to get a device that can do everything I want it to. I am going to list a description of what I want and specific questions I have for you guys about how I can achieve each:
The Phone
It should have bluetooth, wifi, sd slot, integrated or detachable (but usable) keyboard would be nice. The speakerphone should work and should be able to get loud. The phone should sound good; people should not say to me "what's up with your phone?"
1) I am currently playing with an HP 6315 but the phone sounds like crap, especially if you turn up the volume all the way on the speaker phone. Do other devices sound good as a phone?
2) The keyboard on the 6315 is also pretty useless. The buttons are just too small. Has anyone used a detachable or bluetooth keyboard with usably large buttons that works well?
Car Kit
I would like to be able to get into the car, "dock" the PDA and have it charge and connect to my GPS (Tom Tom of course, it's the best right?). I do not want to have to manually connect the cable to the bottom of the PDA; I want a cradle type connection. I would like hands free cell phone access through this same connection. This same connection would also connect the PDA's audio output to my stereo via an FM transmitter or possibly a direct connection. I would also like a 2nd touch screen display (either wired or bluetooth) that could be mounted up on the dash to make GPS easier to view and use.
1) Are there any PPC PE car kits with a cradle like I am describing?
2) Do any of these have the ability to connect to a Tom Tom GPS receiver through that same base? I just need to break out a serial connection right?
3) If the answer to #2 is no, can I just take the car kit apart and connect some wires to my Tom Tom GPS receiver? Are there just TX, RX, and GND connections that I can just wire up?
4) If there is not an FM transmitter, are there audio connections that I can break out and wire up myself to do that too? Maybe just wire the hands free speaker to the FM transmitter?
5) Are there any external VGA screens for pocket PCs? I know WM2003SE supports VGA now but do they exist and are they touch screen?
Bluetooth Headset
I would like a headset that I can wear all day without looking like a major dork. I think it is impractical to have a headset in your pocket when the phone starts ringing. There is no way you can get that thing out and on your ear in time. Is there anything that I can just wear around my neck that could pickup me talking without wearing anything on my ear? I would also like this device to turn itself on as soon as it hears any audio output from the Pocket PC device, especially when the phone is ringing. I would like it to turn on quick enough that I can actually hear the audio, not 2 seconds later. I would also like it to turn itself off when I hang up. It should also have a button that can initiate Microsoft Voice Command. Ideally I would use the bluetooth headset as my phone. I would answer calls, hang up calls and initiate voice dial all with the headset. I would only pickup the PDA when I wanted to use it as a PDA. I would never again hold that screen up to my ear! I would also like this headset to be able to pair with my pc so I can use my VoIP softphone on the pc to make phone calls.
1) So is there a headset that you don't have to put in your ear?
2) If the answer to #1 is no, has anyone considered getting a hearing aid just for this purpose and getting a loop set? I just don't want to be carrying a headset in my pocket all day then having to fumble around for it when the phone is ringing. Maybe this isn’t as big of a problem as I suspect.
3) I have never used a bluetooth headset so I don't know much about them. Do bluetooth headsets turn themselves on automatically when the phone rings?
4) Is there a bluetooth headset that I can answer and hang-up the phone with?
5) Is there a bluetooth headset that I can initiate Microsoft Voice Command with?
6) Even if my "over the ear" phobia can't be resolved, is there anyone who never has to put the screen up to their ear because their bluetooth headset works so well?
7) Has anyone paired any bluetooth headset to their computer to make phone calls via VoIP?
Synchronizing
I will be synchronizing with my exchange server with up to date notifications enabled. So WM2003 will be required. When I am at my desk I would like for the Pocket PC to stay on my belt, but detect that I am in the office and start doing desktop sync via bluetooth (or wifi). The device should be able to pair with the headset and the desktop computer at the same time.
1) Is this desktop bluetooth sync thing I am describing possible?
2) Can a device pair with multiple devices at the same time? How many can it pair with?
mate, some asnwers to your questions...others may have other opinions or ideas...
1) I am currently playing with an HP 6315 but the phone sounds like crap, especially if you turn up the volume all the way on the speaker phone. Do other devices sound good as a phone?
ANS - i use the xda2; though the loudspeaker isn't as good but generally i'm satisfied with it. but i never put the phone to my ear since i use a bluetooth headset (more comments on that one below)
2) The keyboard on the 6315 is also pretty useless. The buttons are just too small. Has anyone used a detachable or bluetooth keyboard with usably large buttons that works well?
ANS: which is probably one thing why i think i won't be getting the mda3...but i have used a foldable keyboard or used my laptop (with a 3rd party software) to use the keyboard and mouse to control the xda2
Bluetooth
1) So is there a headset that you don't have to put in your ear?
ANS: i used to have the jabra but found it to be weird having to wear it on my ear all the time. plus if i wear it for long periods, i develop a "cramp" on my ear...and had some issues with bonding when activesync was being done. i NOW use the O2 headset; see attached pic. i like it because it's very discreet; it just clips on my collar / shirt and i let the headphone dangle inside my shirt pocket. or i can holster it on the clip-mike. the headset can receive or end calls, so when i'm driving i don't have to hold my pda. don't have any issues with it; no bonding issues, reception is great, mike is sensitive, etc.
23) I have never used a bluetooth headset so I don't know much about them. Do bluetooth headsets turn themselves on automatically when the phone rings?
ANS - yes, when the phone rings, it's immediately transferred to the headset and all i have to do is switch it on to receive the call (for my o2 the switch is on the headphone), or click it twice to reject the call.
4) Is there a bluetooth headset that I can answer and hang-up the phone with?
ANS - i think most of them do...
6) Even if my "over the ear" phobia can't be resolved, is there anyone who never has to put the screen up to their ear because their bluetooth headset works so well?
ANs - love my O2 headset and my bt is on 24 hours a day but when my headset is charging then i have to take the xda to my ear
Syncing
1) Is this desktop bluetooth sync thing I am describing possible?
ANS - yes, you're talking about the bluetooth-activesync method. i'm using it via my diffusi bt dongle; works great and no need for cables. the only limitation i see is possibly the range since the xda and the laptop can't be separated for more than 30 or so meters. but syncing is very easy and convenient via bt...oh and the great thing about bt-activesync is that you can turn off the screen of your pda and still the laptop is synced. saves you on battery time...
2) Can a device pair with multiple devices at the same time? How many can it pair with?
ANS: not sure here but my xda is paired with my headset, my laptop and my tomtom...oh and my wife's ericsson...
hope that helps.
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zlester said:
I currently have an XDA and want to upgrade to something but I want to get a device that can do everything I want it to. I am going to list a description of what I want and specific questions I have for you guys about how I can achieve each:
The Phone
It should have bluetooth, wifi, sd slot, integrated or detachable (but usable) keyboard would be nice. The speakerphone should work and should be able to get loud. The phone should sound good; people should not say to me "what's up with your phone?"
1) I am currently playing with an HP 6315 but the phone sounds like crap, especially if you turn up the volume all the way on the speaker phone. Do other devices sound good as a phone?
2) The keyboard on the 6315 is also pretty useless. The buttons are just too small. Has anyone used a detachable or bluetooth keyboard with usably large buttons that works well?
Car Kit
I would like to be able to get into the car, "dock" the PDA and have it charge and connect to my GPS (Tom Tom of course, it's the best right?). I do not want to have to manually connect the cable to the bottom of the PDA; I want a cradle type connection. I would like hands free cell phone access through this same connection. This same connection would also connect the PDA's audio output to my stereo via an FM transmitter or possibly a direct connection. I would also like a 2nd touch screen display (either wired or bluetooth) that could be mounted up on the dash to make GPS easier to view and use.
1) Are there any PPC PE car kits with a cradle like I am describing?
2) Do any of these have the ability to connect to a Tom Tom GPS receiver through that same base? I just need to break out a serial connection right?
3) If the answer to #2 is no, can I just take the car kit apart and connect some wires to my Tom Tom GPS receiver? Are there just TX, RX, and GND connections that I can just wire up?
4) If there is not an FM transmitter, are there audio connections that I can break out and wire up myself to do that too? Maybe just wire the hands free speaker to the FM transmitter?
5) Are there any external VGA screens for pocket PCs? I know WM2003SE supports VGA now but do they exist and are they touch screen?
Bluetooth Headset
I would like a headset that I can wear all day without looking like a major dork. I think it is impractical to have a headset in your pocket when the phone starts ringing. There is no way you can get that thing out and on your ear in time. Is there anything that I can just wear around my neck that could pickup me talking without wearing anything on my ear? I would also like this device to turn itself on as soon as it hears any audio output from the Pocket PC device, especially when the phone is ringing. I would like it to turn on quick enough that I can actually hear the audio, not 2 seconds later. I would also like it to turn itself off when I hang up. It should also have a button that can initiate Microsoft Voice Command. Ideally I would use the bluetooth headset as my phone. I would answer calls, hang up calls and initiate voice dial all with the headset. I would only pickup the PDA when I wanted to use it as a PDA. I would never again hold that screen up to my ear! I would also like this headset to be able to pair with my pc so I can use my VoIP softphone on the pc to make phone calls.
1) So is there a headset that you don't have to put in your ear?
2) If the answer to #1 is no, has anyone considered getting a hearing aid just for this purpose and getting a loop set? I just don't want to be carrying a headset in my pocket all day then having to fumble around for it when the phone is ringing. Maybe this isn’t as big of a problem as I suspect.
3) I have never used a bluetooth headset so I don't know much about them. Do bluetooth headsets turn themselves on automatically when the phone rings?
4) Is there a bluetooth headset that I can answer and hang-up the phone with?
5) Is there a bluetooth headset that I can initiate Microsoft Voice Command with?
6) Even if my "over the ear" phobia can't be resolved, is there anyone who never has to put the screen up to their ear because their bluetooth headset works so well?
7) Has anyone paired any bluetooth headset to their computer to make phone calls via VoIP?
Synchronizing
I will be synchronizing with my exchange server with up to date notifications enabled. So WM2003 will be required. When I am at my desk I would like for the Pocket PC to stay on my belt, but detect that I am in the office and start doing desktop sync via bluetooth (or wifi). The device should be able to pair with the headset and the desktop computer at the same time.
1) Is this desktop bluetooth sync thing I am describing possible?
2) Can a device pair with multiple devices at the same time? How many can it pair with?
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Interesting reading, you certainly have put some decent thought into this. Let me share my experience with a bluetooth headset:
I have the Jabra BT200. It is a very comfortable unit, more comfortable than anything I have tried out there. I am using it with my iMate PPCPE and it works pretty well. 1 out of 20 times when the phone rings, the call for some reason won't get transferred to the BT headset. -But I can live with that. The sound quality is not as good as a regular wired earpiece. Using the BT headset will put an additional and noticeable strain on your phones battery resulting in less battery life before you need to recharge. I can answer and end calls from the Jabra BT headset but it does not work with MS Voice Command (Which I would discourage use of for other reasons: It's Not stable on the iMate, makes it hang needing hard reset) meaning you can't press a button on the headset and speak to the phone through the headset. The battery life of the Jabra is about 1 hour of talk time or abuot 1 day of standby with a couple of brief conversations during the day. The only complaint about he Jabra BT200 pertains to how I choose to use it: I usually don't waer it unless I'm on a call. When the phone rings, it sometimes takes too long to get the headset out of my pocket and properly on / in my ear. The little gel-like thing that goes in the ear rotates too easily.
mate,
regarding:
"The battery life of the Jabra is about 1 hour of talk time or abuot 1 day of standby with a couple of brief conversations during the day. The only complaint about he Jabra BT200 pertains to how I choose to use it: I usually don't waer it unless I'm on a call. When the phone rings, it sometimes takes too long to get the headset out of my pocket and properly on / in my ear. The little gel-like thing that goes in the ear rotates too easily."
i guess this depends on a mate's usage; but are you sure about the 1-day battery life? like i mentioned i used to have a jabra (bt200) and the standby would be around 3-4 days...that's why the bt250 came out which boasts a standby power of around 8-10 days. just curious...
oh and i didn't like fiddling around in my pocket when the phone rang...specially with the ear gel/bud sometimes rotating...or even coming off when i did get it out of my pocket.... that's why i changed headsets.
Robson said:
mate,
regarding:
"The battery life of the Jabra is about 1 hour of talk time or abuot 1 day of standby with a couple of brief conversations during the day. The only complaint about he Jabra BT200 pertains to how I choose to use it: I usually don't waer it unless I'm on a call. When the phone rings, it sometimes takes too long to get the headset out of my pocket and properly on / in my ear. The little gel-like thing that goes in the ear rotates too easily."
i guess this depends on a mate's usage; but are you sure about the 1-day battery life? like i mentioned i used to have a jabra (bt200) and the standby would be around 3-4 days...that's why the bt250 came out which boasts a standby power of around 8-10 days. just curious...
oh and i didn't like fiddling around in my pocket when the phone rang...specially with the ear gel/bud sometimes rotating...or even coming off when i did get it out of my pocket.... that's why i changed headsets.
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Yeah, I'm pretty sure about the 1 day usage. I usually get right around 1 days worth of standby, talk w. BT headset, checking email and playing a couple of games. -But that's fine for me. I have never found myself in a situation where I couldn't charge my iMate overnight so 1 full day of somewhat serious use is just fine for me.
So my headphone jack on my wizard is busted, and I really need to listen to some tunes, and I don't have a warranty, and do not want to take it to a repair.
So my last option is stereo bluetooth
-I have read on many websites that you can't use a stereo bluetooth headset on your T-mobile MDA which I have. Is this true? I have the latest ROM from them (I'm too chicken to switch around my ROMS). If I won't be able to currently, how can I?
-Does using bluetooth a lot cut down your battery? If so, by how much?
-What is the best stereo blue tooth headset to use?
I'm looking for comfotableness (sp?), audio quality, and compactness (I don't want a huge bulky one)
where can I get one cheap?
-I've been poking around on other forums, and they told me to go here for the update that will let me stereo bluetooth my phone
http://www.expansys.com/ft.aspx?i=124833&thread=87
Will it work?
Thanks for your help!
Blutooth with T-mobile MDA
I have been using my bluetooth stereo head set from logitech for a while,
It just worked great good sound quality.
Recently I upgraded from WM5 to WM6 and it works with the new OS as well sounds even better.
hey,
im also in the market. but for my 8525. I also want a microphone for phone calls (do they all have this?), or fail that, both volume controls and playback control. color me subscribed
u can use stereo bluetooth w/o flashing a new ROM
idk what that link will do for you, this prog is the easiest way to get stereo bluetooth
@ryske..You can use Jabra bt620s or plantronics 590a for ur needs...I personally use 590a...
shantzg001 .. great thanks for the info. I will research all three once i get this damned thing. Also dont forget to search fatwallet and antirebate for these things!!
if u have tmobile you can use their update and be able to use bluetooth stereo but if other i would flash with a new rom or even with the tmobile one but it will come with tmobile branding.
is it possible for incomng/outgoing calls to use the same bluetooth earpiece with two devices?
if so... what brand should i get?
the two devices are a Blackstone and a Polaris.
Thats a question I would love an answer to. So far the onlt bluetooth device that i've found to do this is the Jabra BT8040. I own one and it works as advertised though with some bugs....
TechAnimal
what kind of bugs?
An example, when you're in a call with one phone and the other rings, it switches to the ringing phone without you answering, which leaves the person you were speaking to wondering what the heck happened.
TechAnimal
I could live with that... I just switch one off =)). Kidding now... it's rather rare when this happends. Just that I can't find the earpiece here... i searched each romanian online store... nothing
istoica said:
is it possible for incoming/outgoing calls to use the same bluetooth earpiece with two devices?
if so... what brand should i get?
the two devices are a Blackstone and a Polaris.
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Sure, it is called BlueAnt and I have two of them. Both the black color and the red color. Couldn't decide which one to get, so went for both colors.
However, one is sufficient!
The z9i:
http://www.myblueant.com/z9i_headset.htm
Since then they have come out with a newer model called V1, which has voice command build into the bluetooth.
http://www.myblueant.com/v1_voice_control.htm
I paid $75 each for the z9i year ago, they are now less than $40 each .
KOR!
Also, they give you a cable for firmware upgrade. When I bough mine it had v1.0 firmware on them, since then I have upgraded to v1.1
KOR!
istoica said:
I could live with that... I just switch one off =)). Kidding now... it's rather rare when this happends. Just that I can't find the earpiece here... i searched each romanian online store... nothing
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this is the head set that I use with my Trinity and my Breeze:
http://www.plantronics.com/north_america/en_US/products/mobile/bluetooth-headsets/voyager-815
and you can find it in romania too.
Jabr BT8010 can do it as well. I own one and its a pretty cool peace of toy. Especially to see on the screen of the headset who is calling and that you can even dial with this headset names from your phoneboock is very convinient. I dont want to miss it anymore.
bh10mjr
Thanks a lot! I found it at a good price here which is awsome.
Multumesc!
was my pleasure to help you.
I did buy it from vodafone, on points (was free for me)
you can try in there if you have some points.
SE HBH-DS980 works fine with two devices.
gentillo
too many wires I already ordered the plantronics earpiece. as soon as it arrives i'll let you know how it works.
it arrived
While on vacation, the earpiece arrived.
+ good sound quality
+ easy pairing
+ it pairs to more than two devices
+ accessories (it was shipped with different earbugs and earloops, to fit more customers)
= battery life
- small range: if more than 5 meters (even with direct line of sight) the call could be considered as dropped
- no car charger or USB charger in the package (uses proprietary charging socket)
I'd say it's a 8/10.
bh10mjr said:
this is the head set that I use with my Trinity and my Breeze:
http://www.plantronics.com/north_america/en_US/products/mobile/bluetooth-headsets/voyager-815
and you can find it in romania too.
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Eh?! What the deuce? I use this headset every day but never knew you can get dual connections on it?
Are you sure you don't mean multiple PAIRING? I haven't seen a headset (other than dodgy $5 nobrand ones) that can't multi-pair, it's pretty much a prerequisite of any bluetooth headsets to even make it to market these days.
But being able to connect to more than 1 host device is the challenge here...eg: listening to music via A2DP on the Blackstone and have my music automatically pause to answer a call coming in a Trinity for example...and vice versa... and if I press the voice command button, which phone does it issue the voice command to... etc..
plantronics voyager 520 with noise canceling
Hi guys, anyone here encountered this issue of a non-stereo headset (mine is an SE HBH PV705) that while playing music/audios, it would cutoff from the headset and play through the ppc-speaker at every 4-5 mins.?? Each time I'll have to press the headset button to resume listening through the headset.
...I've never had this issue with my WM5 ppc with the same headset - I can listen through the headset for hours even w/o any interruptions.
...solved.
For in car use both Nexus and Movon have products that do this - both available from amazon.co.uk or were last time I looked:
http://www.maplin.co.uk/Module.aspx?ModuleNo=227944&C=AffilWin89477&T=41513_
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Movon-MK30-Bluetooth-Hands-Free-Car/dp/B001EKMRVU
Jabra BT 8010 or 8040 do the job well with the glitches already mentioned with simultaneous calls. They have "multipoint technology" that is they poll both the handsets alternately making both think that have an individual headset paired.
I had problem with 8040 due to sweating. Sweat like hell.. and they are NOT water resistant, something you need to keep in mind if u are planning to get one.
2 devices, one headset
Yes, I also have the problem. I got a headset which can connect two mobiles, both are Nokia but I can't do that with one PPC phone and one Nokia?
What wrong or may be some setting on PPC need?
Thanks
I recently purchased the official Samsung Active Holder for my SGS2. Nicely routed the charging cable, then bought a kit to hook up the aux-out of the SGS2-charger to my radio. NICE! Music from my SGS2 through my radio while in the charger! Navigation-instructions as well!
Problem: Voicecalls still play through the phone-speaker :-( (can't hear a damn thing of what the other is saying when going 150 eehrmz 100 Km/h)
Searched somehwat, and several people reported this for several phones, however it seems the problems/solutions are phone-specific as well.
Does anyone know how to get the phonecalls routed through the AUX-out of the charger as well, just like all other audio of the phone?
Does your car have Bluetooth? If so then pair your phone, use bt for voice calls and aux for the rest.
Not sure if Bluetooth affects what happens through aux though...
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yamanote said:
Does your car have Bluetooth? If so then pair your phone, use bt for voice calls and aux for the rest.
Not sure if Bluetooth affects what happens through aux though...
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Unfortunately: No. Used a special box to emulate a cd-charger on my old Renault Tunerlist radio, to get a double tulip in... Bluetooth was just one leap too far ;-)
Ah, I guess I'm just too spoiled with my car's A2DP streaming audio
Maybe you can get one of these?
http://www.amazon.com/Motorola-HF800-Bluetooth-Portable-Speaker/dp/B0002F7I9E
Or something like that. Pair your phone, slap it on your visor and use that for calls.
That one's just an example, there's a huge selection of these bluetooth car speakers.
Could someone please confirm whether the tablet can or cannot be used as a hold-it-to-the-ear phone? Online reviews and specs seem to differ on this. Does it actually have a microphone and an ear-volume speaker in the correct places to be used as a phone held against the ear, or does it only have telephony via either loudspeaker or headset? I want to purchase one, but this is a dealbreaker for me. Many thanks.
Aidan Bell said:
Could someone please confirm whether the tablet can or cannot be used as a hold-it-to-the-ear phone? Online reviews and specs seem to differ on this. Does it actually have a microphone and an ear-volume speaker in the correct places to be used as a phone held against the ear, or does it only have telephony via either loudspeaker or headset? I want to purchase one, but this is a dealbreaker for me. Many thanks.
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It has the gsm voice radio but not the earpiece. You can use bluetooth or speaker but its just not meant to hold to your face. Although, I gotta say, I have a samsung 8 inch tablet with phone capabilities and I never used the earpiece. When I was in public it was too embarrasing to do that and at home I would use speaker. Of course most of the time I have bluetooth headphones/headset around so thats what I use. I have these 30 dollar plantronics tiny earpieces that last for 11 hours. I use for Podcasts, audiobooks, movies, music and... phone calls, always have one on me.
Many thanks for clearing that up for me. What a shame, though. I was on the verge of buying one, but I really would need to be able to use it as a regular phone (I must admit I would have no embarrassment holding it to my ear in public!). I thought I'd finally found myself an 8-inch phone, oh well.