T-Mobile Subscribers, I Need Your Help on Chosing A New Phone - Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I'm on T-Mobile USA. Pretty soon I want to get a new phone. Currently, I have the MyTouch4G which will go to either my mother or my girlfriend.
Now, I know of the One S coming, but in all honesty, I'm let down by it - no expandable memory, battery, and no NFC chip. I can live with the battery, but the memory and the chip break the deal. Now, I know you guys will argue the memory. Fact is, 16GB is not enough for me. I know about drop box, too. That's fine when I'm in the US and have unlimited data. It's not fine, however, when I travel to say... Nigeria and only 1GB of data costs $17. DropBox and Google Music isn't so appealing when you consider that. So, memory argument shut down.
So, that leaves me to believe that currently with T-Mobile, the total package phone is the Amaze. I root my phones, ICS and Sense 4.0 will be there either way. I have the two now on the MyTouch4G.
Now, since the One S isn't a flagship phone, do we have any speculation on what's coming after the One S? Please tell me we do...
Can the international One X work on T-Mobile USA's 4G network? I can live with the One X, but from what I understand, AT&T's One X won't work on T-Mo's 4G.
So, hit me with advice!

Don_Perrignon said:
I'm on T-Mobile USA. Pretty soon I want to get a new phone. Currently, I have the MyTouch4G which will go to either my mother or my girlfriend.
Now, I know of the One S coming, but in all honesty, I'm let down by it - no expandable memory, battery, and no NFC chip. I can live with the battery, but the memory and the chip break the deal. Now, I know you guys will argue the memory. Fact is, 16GB is not enough for me. I know about drop box, too. That's fine when I'm in the US and have unlimited data. It's not fine, however, when I travel to say... Nigeria and only 1GB of data costs $17. DropBox and Google Music isn't so appealing when you consider that. So, memory argument shut down.
So, that leaves me to believe that currently with T-Mobile, the total package phone is the Amaze. I root my phones, ICS and Sense 4.0 will be there either way. I have the two now on the MyTouch4G.
Now, since the One S isn't a flagship phone, do we have any speculation on what's coming after the One S? Please tell me we do...
Can the international One X work on T-Mobile USA's 4G network? I can live with the One X, but from what I understand, AT&T's One X won't work on T-Mo's 4G.
So, hit me with advice!
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People don't seem to like the Amaze for whatever reason. I would wait for the samsung sg3, unless, as you seem to imply, you're htc only.
an unlocked gsm one x should work on t-mobile; double check the frequencies just to be sure.

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[Q] A few questions on the Atrix

Just wanting to know a few things:
1. Do all apps support the "Move to media" option in manage apps, or is it similar to the stock FroYo Move to SD?
2. If I got one I would get it from Mobicity in Brisbane (Google mobicity atrix) would the option under colour saying no physical branding be a Bell Atrix? I have heard they are harder to hack etc. Would it be better knowing I'm getting an AT&T by getting their branding on the phone?
Thanks (Sorry I can't post links, I would, but I'm only new)
smnfrstr said:
Just wanting to know a few things:
1. Do all apps support the "Move to media" option in manage apps, or is it similar to the stock FroYo Move to SD?
2. If I got one I would get it from Mobicity in Brisbane (Google mobicity atrix) would the option under colour saying no physical branding be a Bell Atrix? I have heard they are harder to hack etc. Would it be better knowing I'm getting an AT&T by getting their branding on the phone?
Thanks (Sorry I can't post links, I would, but I'm only new)
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I can only answer #1 for ya. No, only certain apps will allow moving to media area (built in /sdcard)
But in reality, I have what I consider a ton of apps installed and still have nearly a gb of phone storage remaining so it's just about a moot point..
Thanks. That's a bit of a let down, but still good. I've got a desire with about 20 apps installed and 15mb free, so anything more than that is awesome!
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You won't need to worry about space on the Atrix. At last count I have a total of 452 apps, a couple of gigs of music, pictures, and videos on my internal sdcard, and still have over 5GB of free space.
This isn't the AT&T Atrix which is the MB860.
http://www.mobicity.com.au/motorola-atrix.html
This is the ME860. I believe that's from the Chinese/Asian market.
The following link shows this model as having Android 2.2.1 Chinese as embedded operating system.
http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=2889&c=motorola_atrix_me860_motorola_olympus
CaelanT said:
You won't need to worry about space on the Atrix. At last count I have a total of 452 apps, a couple of gigs of music, pictures, and videos on my internal sdcard, and still have over 5GB of free space.
This isn't the AT&T Atrix which is the MB860.
This is the ME860. I believe that's from the Chinese/Asian market.
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According to the Mobicity website, the one I'm looking at is the ME860, but I don't know if that means that if I go the AT&T branding means that I get the MB860. The only advantage I can see from getting the ME860 is the quad-band 3G (I live in Australia so there is one carrier using 850/2100mHz and the rest use 900/2100mHz Dual band 3G), so if I want to change carriers this could be useful.
I might contact Mobicity to find out if the AT&T branding means MB860 and if the ME860 has any Chinese language on it.
So I checked with Mobicity and they said that the website had errors. They are actually selling the MB860 with either AT&T branding or no branding. I asked which rom they ran on each and the AT&T branded one runs the same rom AT&T uses, where the unbranded one uses Moto's stock rom. If they are both the same price which would be better? I don't care about the AT&T logo because it's fairly easy to remove.
I've also seen some people using the AT&T Atrix have "AT&T Atrix" as the carrier when using it with another carrier. Would this occur if I got the AT&T branding?
If you plan on using it with telstra, then you'll have no problems with reception on the AT&T atrix as they use the 3G 850 mhz band. However, if you plan on using vodafone/optus then you won't get 3g in the country/rural areas as they use the 900mhz band. It'd probably be good for you to check the 3g coverage maps if you plan on going with optus/vodafone on the AT&T atrix.
I went against going with mobicity as nobody I talked to had any idea what version of the atrix they're selling. Originally they were selling just the AT&T version but since the telstra version came out they updated their site and were telling me that ALL their versions were quadband, including the AT&T branded one. They were also charging $20 extra for the AT&T version for a while.
I ended up ordering it from gsmnation a few days ago as it was cheaper and I know what I'll be getting. I'm going to be using optus but the AT&T version has better developer support so I figured that was a better incentive rather than rare occasion that I'll actually go visiting a rural area. I was using a tri-band iphone 3g for 3 years before this anyway.
So if you want better support from developers, probably faster updates and you aren't worried about the fact that it doesn't support optus/vodafone in the country then I'd go with the AT&T atrix.
According to them they don't sell the quad-band version (http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/forum-replies.cfm?t=1564501&p=58#r1144), but that doesn't bother me, as I'm looked into Telstra for another 15 months or so. That means the only thing I'm worried about are updates (which as you mentioned the AT&T one would get more and faster) and the support for custom roms down the track (Gingerblur supports this already). So looks like I will go with the AT&T if I get one.
Well luckily I didn't buy it from mobicity then. The person I spoke to said that the atrix was now quadband, even their website showed the same until you alerted them about it. So yeah, I guess that makes the decision a lot easier for you.
devize said:
Well luckily I didn't buy it from mobicity then. The person I spoke to said that the atrix was now quadband, even their website shows the same (previously it said only tri-band). So yeah, I guess that makes the decision a lot easier for you.
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Lucky indeed! I have heard that Telstra is selling a quad-band version, although it's hardly selling, more like ripping off at $840 or $59 a month.
Have you got your Atrix? I've heard some people using the AT&T Atrix with another provider get "AT&T Atrix" as the carrier up the top left corner of the screen. Just wondering if this is true or not....
Since Mobicity says ME860 on their website, and they tell you themselves this is wrong and they are selling the MB860, I would definitely verify all the information on any phone you purchase first in :
Settings > About Phone
CaelanT said:
Since Mobicity says ME860 on their website, and they tell you themselves this is wrong and they are selling the MB860, I would definitely verify all the information on any phone you purchase first in :
Settings > About Phone
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Will do! Although it doesn't really bother me as I won't be using the added 900mHz frequency anyway. But still, better to get what you ask for!
So if I got the AT&T branded one would app sideloading be disabled, as it it using AT&T's rom? If it is, then how easy is it to enable?
smnfrstr said:
So if I got the AT&T branded one would app sideloading be disabled, as it it using AT&T's rom? If it is, then how easy is it to enable?
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You just use GladEnabler. Easy peesy!
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smnfrstr said:
Lucky indeed! I have heard that Telstra is selling a quad-band version, although it's hardly selling, more like ripping off at $840 or $59 a month.
Have you got your Atrix? I've heard some people using the AT&T Atrix with another provider get "AT&T Atrix" as the carrier up the top left corner of the screen. Just wondering if this is true or not....
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I haven't got it yet, I bought it from gsmnation on friday so I'm hoping I get it this week. I'll post back and let you know if you haven't bought one by then.

AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note really that much worse than International?

I was reading some threads last night on the International Galaxy Note and it seemed everyone was *****ing about how awful and ****ty the AT&T Galaxy Note is, with it being much less powerful and stuff.
Is this true? I'm debating rather to pay $300 for an On-Contract AT&T Galaxy Note or just getting an International Galaxy Note for $700
I understand the AT&T version has a Snapdragon CPU and an Adreno 220 GPU while the International has a Samsung Exynos CPU and an Mali MP 400 GPU. The AT&T one isn't THAT much slower/worse is it?
I have the international with the exynos. I don't really notice much difference from dual core snapdragon handsets like on the htc's. honestly, if there is a difference, would it even be significant enough to matter? I went with the international version bc I'm already on contract and didn't know what the full retail pricing for the AT&T note was gonna be.
FYI, if youre looking for a new international note, expansys has em for $669.99 after $20 coupon. The good thing is that with warranty issues, expansys says that you can send it to them, and they'll take care of shipping it to whatever country it is that handles the warranty for no charge.
Edit: Forgot to mention the AT&T note has LTE!!!
Well to be honest the only thing that bothers me about the AT&T Galaxy Note is the lack of a physical home button (I love being able to unlock my phone like an iPhone like I already do on my Desire Z)
I can't answer the question with 100% certainty, but if I had to guess I would say "no."
I'm basing this off of what I read about the Skyrocket vs the Galaxy S2. It was the same argument: Exynos vs Snapdragon. Yes, the exynos out benchmarked the snapdragon. But for day to day use, after owning BOTH phones, I can say there wasn't really much of a difference. In fact, I returned my Skyrocket and went back to the SGS2 because of how similar they were, and I wasn't in an LTE market yet.
I'm moving to Austin, TX next month, which is why I'm looking for an LTE device again, which brings me to the Note. Based off of the research I've done, the difference will be minimal.
Obviously these are different devices, but I'm guessing this is going to be another case of over-emphasis on benchmarks mixed with a case of personal pride from people picking the international, and then an LTE version of their phone coming out.
I know a few differences that will slow the phone down and bug the hell out of me when I turn it on the first time:
AT&T Navigator®*
AT&T Family Map*
AT&T U-verse® Live TV(TM)*
YPmobile®
AT&T Address Book*
AT&T Messages
myAT&T
AT&T Code Scanner
CityID*
Amazon Kindle
Facebook®
Samsung Social Hub
Qik Video Chat**
AT&T Ready2Go
Hope that root access comes REALLY FAST!!!
jpeg42 said:
I know a few differences that will slow the phone down and bug the hell out of me when I turn it on the first time:
AT&T Navigator®*
AT&T Family Map*
AT&T U-verse® Live TV(TM)*
YPmobile®
AT&T Address Book*
AT&T Messages
myAT&T
AT&T Code Scanner
CityID*
Amazon Kindle
Facebook®
Samsung Social Hub
Qik Video Chat**
AT&T Ready2Go
Hope that root access comes REALLY FAST!!!
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Haha. Well played.
Well is 4G LTE really that much better than whatever 3G the International Galaxy Note has? (I've had to use 2G/2.5G for the last 2 years because... T-Mobile sucks)
KosanRio said:
Well is 4G LTE really that much better than whatever 3G the International Galaxy Note has? (I've had to use 2G/2.5G for the last 2 years because... T-Mobile sucks)
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You can expect around 25-30mb a sec with LTE depending on where you live. I think the International note maxes at about 10? I could be wrong.
Short answer: yes.
jpeg42 said:
I know a few differences that will slow the phone down and bug the hell out of me when I turn it on the first time:
AT&T Navigator®*
AT&T Family Map*
AT&T U-verse® Live TV(TM)*
YPmobile®
AT&T Address Book*
AT&T Messages
myAT&T
AT&T Code Scanner
CityID*
Amazon Kindle
Facebook®
Samsung Social Hub
Qik Video Chat**
AT&T Ready2Go
Hope that root access comes REALLY FAST!!!
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Oh god do not want.
KosanRio said:
Well is 4G LTE really that much better than whatever 3G the International Galaxy Note has? (I've had to use 2G/2.5G for the last 2 years because... T-Mobile sucks)
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Sure if youre in a full lte coverage area, much faster data. But yes I agree with other posters, performance difference should be minimal to daily users. Now gamers is a different story but how many of us play COD MW3 or whatever on our devices. As for the physical button on the international one, as nice as it would serve to unlock the phone, its just another moving part that can collect dust/liquid etc as some iphone users have experienced.
Oh and main hope for me is that enough dev's show up with super fast roms
if youre in an lte market, I'd say the lte would be a significant difference from hspa+. Just because you can't achieve speeds on h+ like you can on lte. Even if you don't live in an lte market, it wouldn't hurt to have lte capability in case you travel or they set up one in your area.
I wish samsung wouldve put in dual 3g band radios on the international note so we can jump to tmo if needed just like on the galaxy nexus.
jpeg42 said:
I know a few differences that will slow the phone down and bug the hell out of me when I turn it on the first time:
AT&T Navigator®*
AT&T Family Map*
AT&T U-verse® Live TV(TM)*
YPmobile®
AT&T Address Book*
AT&T Messages
myAT&T
AT&T Code Scanner
CityID*
Amazon Kindle
Facebook®
Samsung Social Hub
Qik Video Chat**
AT&T Ready2Go
Hope that root access comes REALLY FAST!!!
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to be honest most of that crap can easily be removed before you ever root so I dont know what the big deal is on that.
As for the other forum ranting about ours as apposed to theirs I would imagine its the same ol same ol trying to make them selves feel better about their phone by putting down another. The Exynos is way better on GPU and processing but for a every day to day user you probably wont be able to even tell the difference outside of benchmarks. IMO mainly DEVS and maybe heavy gamer's maybe the only ones to notice. The functionality of the phone is the same and so is the screen, resolution, memory and storage. the biggest difference is processor and modems.
bkeaver said:
to be honest most of that crap can easily be removed before you ever root so I dont know what the big deal is on that.
As for the other forum ranting about ours as apposed to theirs I would imagine its the same ol same ol trying to make them selves feel better about their phone by putting down another. The Exynos is way better on GPU and processing but for a every day to day user you probably wont be able to even tell the difference outside of benchmarks. IMO mainly DEVS and maybe heavy gamer's maybe the only ones to notice. The functionality of the phone is the same and so is the screen, resolution, memory and storage. the biggest difference is processor and modems.
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Hmmm, I thought on my Captivate there were issues removing those apps before it was rooted. But was a couple years ago, so hopefully I am wrong. I know it is small, but just seeing those in my app drawer drive me nuts.
jpeg42 said:
Hmmm, I thought on my Captivate there were issues removing those apps before it was rooted. But was a couple years ago, so hopefully I am wrong. I know it is small, but just seeing those in my app drawer drive me nuts.
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they changed that you can now side load and remove most bloatware without rooting
jpeg42 said:
Hmmm, I thought on my Captivate there were issues removing those apps before it was rooted. But was a couple years ago, so hopefully I am wrong. I know it is small, but just seeing those in my app drawer drive me nuts.
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If you use an alternate launcher, say go launcher ex for example, you can hide apps in the app drawer, which will at least take care of the aesthetic cluttering until you can fully remove them, which I assume wont be long at all.
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jpeg42 said:
Hmmm, I thought on my Captivate there were issues removing those apps before it was rooted. But was a couple years ago, so hopefully I am wrong. I know it is small, but just seeing those in my app drawer drive me nuts.
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Yes, you can now remove most of the AT&T crap ware. Only a very small number of them can't be removed, especially the hidden one (City ID and Tethering Manager for example).
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welchertc said:
If you use an alternate launcher, say go launcher ex for example, you can hide apps in the app drawer, which will at least take care of the aesthetic cluttering until you can fully remove them, which I assume wont be long at all.
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Even with TW, you can create folders and move all the AT&T apps into one folder so that you won't see them.
I tend to play quite a bit of games on my phone, but mostly it would just be emulators and stuff (Maybe GTA III and X-Plane too) You think I'd be good with an AT&T Galaxy Note?
bkeaver said:
to be honest most of that crap can easily be removed before you ever root so I dont know what the big deal is on that.
As for the other forum ranting about ours as apposed to theirs I would imagine its the same ol same ol trying to make them selves feel better about their phone by putting down another. The Exynos is way better on GPU and processing but for a every day to day user you probably wont be able to even tell the difference outside of benchmarks. IMO mainly DEVS and maybe heavy gamer's maybe the only ones to notice. The functionality of the phone is the same and so is the screen, resolution, memory and storage. the biggest difference is processor and modems.
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Some, not most can be uninstalled. Some of the troublesome ones cannot be removed without root such as AP mobile. Is is at most a hassle though. I will most likely have both models. Do not know if that makes me unusual, but just wanted to relay my experience with my skyrocket and removable bloatware with ATT. Progress has been made but we are not there yet...
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For me, it boils down to LTE market or not. Considering equal cost: If LTE market, yes, get the ATT note. If not, I'd probably go with the international.
giantenemybird said:
For me, it boils down to LTE market or not. Considering equal cost: If LTE market, yes, get the ATT note. If not, I'd probably go with the international.
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You will want LTE in Austin. Was getting LTE down there as they tested it before officially lighting it up. Was there last week and still getting over 50 down!
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Newer Phone for T-Mobile?

I am fed up with the Nexus One and this chronic power button problem I've sent it in for four times, and no GPS. No more HTC for me.
Looking for a newer phone for T-Mobile that gets 3G or 4G. No hardware keypad, and working GPS. That's all I ask.
I thought the Moto Atrix might be it, but it can't do better than EDGE. The Photon (Sprint) seems to be only WiMAX.
It seems that T-Mo has only LG and Samsung phones, and I am not enamored with either brand.
Recommendations?
Quantumstate said:
I am fed up with the Nexus One and this chronic power button problem I've sent it in for four times, and no GPS. No more HTC for me.
Looking for a newer phone for T-Mobile that gets 3G or 4G. No hardware keypad, and working GPS. That's all I ask.
I thought the Moto Atrix might be it, but it can't do better than EDGE. The Photon (Sprint) seems to be only WiMAX.
It seems that T-Mo has only LG and Samsung phones, and I am not enamored with either brand.
Recommendations?
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I swore to myself I would never buy another samsung phone, but I ended up with a white galaxy s2 since it was the best phone at the time and it has been great so far (if you don't mind not having ICS). Perfect actually.
I have turned the Motorola site upside-down looking for a fairly current phone that would work 3G or better in T-Mo, but no luck.
Don't trust Samsung or LG, although I'm sure they make fine products. I've been very happy with Motorola phones since cellular services started. Wish for the Droid Razr, but Hate Verizon and ATT for cooperating with warrantless wiretapping.
Wow, nothing else?
Trying to determine if the Droid 4, Droid Razr, or Defy would work.
The Defy is a decent phone and really the only Moto on T-Mobile I could recommend, assuming you can find one. They are outdated as far as stock, but the Devs have kept the software up to date and are even working on ICS/CM9. I don't think the Droid models would work on a T-Mo network at all.
Get a HTC amaze and use the screen off and lock app.. then use go locker or something that allows using power AND volume buttons etc for waking.. thanks to the separate video and camera buttons you'll be up to 5 buttons configurable as power.. besides I think they (htc) are the best made phones
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I have an HTC sensation, which HTC has made 2 updated versions, the XL and something else but i have the standard one, but its 4g, 4.3" screen, hd 1080p video recording, 8mp camera, and when running the elegancia Rom which is great quality you get ics plus lots of features, call recording, WiFi calling, volume button awake. It's really a great phone, id get the newer version XL, its got a 1.5ghz processor plus more ram, I think a gig over my standard sensation with a 1.2ghz and 756mb ram. Both are great, I'm sure you can get a regular sensation for 300 bucks somewhere on the web.
Also HTC released the HTC One, don't know if they are for t-mobile, but they are the cream of the crop for the HTC line. Gonna be pricey but well worth it.
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Samsung Galaxy S2. Nuff said.
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If you really want to look for some more selection, try researching phones made for the Japanese market.
Many NTT Docomo phones have the needed 1700/2100 frequencies needed for T-Mobile 3G in the United States. I have heard of people running some of their Sharp and Toshiba phones here without issue.
Thanks all.
I have lost all confidence in HTC. GPS has never worked, mic quality is not good, and this chronic power button problem that I have sent it in four times for. Now they charge me. No more. They ditch me -- I ditch them.
I like the MIUI.us rom best, and have the vol keys set to wake. (built-in to the rom) Use Toggles to lock it. This is tolerable for now. Has recording and all the other niceties. I think it's the most advanced rom out there.
I've used Motorola phones since cellular service began, and they only ever failed if I broke them. I trust the Motorola phones and wish they worked with T-Mobile more. I will stay with T-Mobile as they did not cooperate with the government's unConstitutional warrantless wiretapping.
I'll check out the Defy. Maybe I can wait a while to see whether Moto comes out with something better. I wonder whether the Photon would work on T-Mo?
You are judging HTC off of a phone that is years old. There are many options for good phones on T-mobile. The Galaxy S2, the Galaxy Nexus if you want to pay for that, the Nexus S. I just came from the HTC Glacier which was amazing all the way around. Great GPS, no hardware issues whatsoever and a huge dev community. The Sensation is a great phone, better than the amaze from the research I have done. Almost all newer phones available aren't going to have GPS issues, so go to a store and pick which one feels better in your hands.
I am judging HTC for a phone that I paid $550 for which never could do GPS or compass, and which has a chronic and recurring power button failure that is a known design problem which HTC refuses to repair without ransom.
If a company intentionally refuses to correct their own glaring mistakes, it is dishonorable and they are no longer worthy of trust. Maybe I am just old-fashioned, and you youngsters see GETTING SCREWED BY CORPORATIONS as a natural state of life...
I do not. HTC ditches me, so I ditch HTC, and tell my friends.
A couple years ago I bought a Jaguar XK-8, a $76,000 car. Two years later it turned out that the timing chain tensioners (made of plastic) were failing on all those engines. Well that is a $15,000 repair. Jag refused to stand behind their car, and so many of us who can afford their cars, have turned our backs on them. As Dubya says, Fool Me Once... {splutter, gork} ... eh Ya Can't Fool Me Again.

Would YOU recommend the LG P769?

I am thinking about purchasing a LG P769 for use on At&t.Since it is a T-Mobile phone,I wont have to have a data plan from at&t which it forces me to have for my Atrix 2 and Galaxy Note.I plan to just unlock it and disable the data.
I've had some LG flip-phones in the past and have owned an LG Thrill which I did not really care for(I got it for free with an upgrade),but I am sure LG has improved slightly...
Is this a decent phone for the average used?I am just looking for good call quality,easy texting and playing some casual games.
Thanks in advance for any input.
PassingThruLife said:
I am thinking about purchasing a LG P769 for use on At&t.Since it is a T-Mobile phone,I wont have to have a data plan from at&t which it forces me to have for my Atrix 2 and Galaxy Note.I plan to just unlock it and disable the data.
I've had some LG flip-phones in the past and have owned an LG Thrill which I did not really care for(I got it for free with an upgrade),but I am sure LG has improved slightly...
Is this a decent phone for the average used?I am just looking for good call quality,easy texting and playing some casual games.
Thanks in advance for any input.
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As per current situation in XDA and the restricted support of P769 providers, I will "not recommend it", until LG releases P769 through its own channel, and not from other mobile operators. Read all forum and various threads and posts about P769 before you decide to buy one.
I don't foresee the same XDA support for the P769 as was seen here for the HTC G2 and HD2 Leo. Nevertheless, it is a midgrade phone running ICS (JB 4.1 expected eventually) and serves me well w/o a custom rom. It is dual core, has 1GB of ram, and is physically light. Unfortunately, it includes a bit of T-Mobile bloatware (that is easily disabled). Removal is possible, but research! ...and you probably know that T-Mobile's wifi calling will not work for you on AT&T.
Two areas of concern are the lack of a light sensor for auto-dimming and has only 2GB of internal memory (G2 had 4!). It is sold without an SD card so you will have to buy one. The lack of auto-dimming hasn't bothered me yet, but it might. The 2150mAh battery seems to help with usage life. Whether I recommend it depends on the price.
Anyways, this was quickly written and I may be back to organize and edit this post.
btw... root it and backup root with voodoo (see threads here) before an OTA update installs.
dkouzou said:
I don't foresee the same XDA support for the P769 as was seen here for the HTC G2 and HD2 Leo. Nevertheless, it is a midgrade phone running ICS (JB 4.1 expected eventually) and serves me well w/o a custom rom. It is dual core, has 1GB of ram, and is physically light. Unfortunately, it includes a bit of T-Mobile bloatware (that is easily disabled). Removal is possible, but research! ...and you probably know that T-Mobile's wifi calling will not work for you on AT&T.
Two areas of concern are the lack of a light sensor for auto-dimming and has only 2GB of internal memory (G2 had 4!). It is sold without an SD card so you will have to buy one. The lack of auto-dimming hasn't bothered me yet, but it might. The 2150mAh battery seems to help with usage life. Whether I recommend it depends on the price.
Anyways, this was quickly written and I may be back to organize and edit this post.
btw... root it and backup root with voodoo (see threads here) before an OTA update installs.
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He can get good alternate at the same or bit more cost, he just have to look around. And what if he gets phone with V10G or if V10G is unknowingly updated on V10E? He will lose root and nothing much can be done. He should better go for any HTC or Samsung Grand, a recommended at this moment.
cmahendra said:
He can get good alternate at the same or bit more cost, he just have to look around. And what if he gets phone with V10G or if V10G is unknowingly updated on V10E? He will lose root and nothing much can be done. He should better go for any HTC or Samsung Grand, a recommended at this moment.
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For $150 USD, I'd buy it (no contract), but above $200 I might consider more expensive options. I see the LG 769 now at Best Buy for $200 (no contract). He can return it if it comes with V10G preinstalled. Considering that he wishes to use it with AT&T, he will have to get it unlocked and this will drive his total cost over $200. An AT&T phone might be more economical although I don't know their selections. An AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II is about $300 (StoreSF). The cheapest I see the Samsung Galaxy Grand is around $400 online (Mobile City Online). If you know of a phone with similar or better specs to the LG 769 (min. dual core, ICS or JB, 1GB Ram) at around $200 or less (no contract), please share.
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I plan to just unlock it and disable the data.
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Never tried this. I guess you can use Wifi only for data?
dkouzou said:
For $150 USD, I'd buy it (no contract), but above $200 I might consider more expensive options. I see the LG 769 now at Best Buy for $200 (no contract). He can return it if it comes with V10G preinstalled. Considering that he wishes to use it with AT&T, he will have to get it unlocked and this will drive his total cost over $200. An AT&T phone might be more economical although I don't know their selections. An AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II is about $300 (StoreSF). The cheapest I see the Samsung Galaxy Grand is around $400 online (Mobile City Online). If you know of a phone with similar or better specs to the LG 769 (min. dual core, ICS or JB, 1GB Ram) at around $200 or less (no contract), please share.
Never tried this. I guess you can use Wifi only for data?
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U r right. At 150 u can go for it. In our country it is 310. And Grand is 350.
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i would recommend the P768 with 8MP instead of 5MP camera - although software will still take a while and Sony / Samsung is always best.
Go for it mate..got mine too 2 weeks old..and im impressed..actually i have 2 android phone one is d galaxy s advance, they almost have thesame specs.but compare to both performance.,l9 wins,,maybe becoz i already had an upgrade my sgsa to jb..but overall performance game,browse,camera,sounds,not to mention the rom memry becoz thats the only thing i ddnt like to l9 but what the devs cant do about that,,.
And compare to samsung.i just noticed that most of their new released phone have thesame looks/style and thats a plus for l9,slim and light..like other post go for galaxy grand rather l9,naahh,,i even had thought of it overnight and finally had my l9 the ff day..
All in all rating:10/10
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Based on your requirement: "I am just looking for good call quality,easy texting and playing some casual games", and if you can get 150$ price tag, definitely go for it, it should be the best bang for your buck the last 2, 3 months (USA). For 200$ price tag, it might be still best value out there, but you might want to look around more.
People here in this forum seems to always assume phone must be rooted, must have unlocked boot loaders to be a phone, but it totally depends on your usage to care about those things or not. And from your description, I would say you can live well with either of those (root might be a bonus for some adblocking and backup btw).

HTC Desire 4G LTE (ADR6410LRA) appears in the wild

Hi together, i just noticed that the "non-verizon branded" Version of our ADR6410 seems to be available in the wild (-> on ebay.com) ... that seems to still have the identical specs as the verizon version and NOT the down-spec'ed like that "desire vc".
appologies for just snapping the pics from an ebay-offer, but it's just to show it to you for reference! HTC logo instead of our "verizon-mark". no idea about roms or unlocks for that modified ADR6410-LRA (from my side) of course. :fingers-crossed:
according to the seller:
As you see - the unit is a "6410LRA". The "LRA" stands for "LTE Across Rural America." This was ORIGINALLY a Verizon product but it was passed on to smaller regional carriers. This unit WILL NOT, NOT, NOT, NOT work on the Verizon (or Sprint) Network - NOT! You WILL need a SIM Card from one of the Regional networks to use this phone (SIM Card NOT Included) and even then we make NO guarantees of this phone being able to work on any Carrier. There are some carriers this MIGHT work on but we don't know which ones. When a Unit is Powered Up NO Carrier logo comes on the screen.
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cheers ... so what do you think about this "sibbling"?
kimba99 said:
Hi together, i just noticed that the "non-verizon branded" Version of our ADR6410 seems to be available in the wild (-> on ebay.com) ... that seems to still have the identical specs as the verizon version and NOT the down-spec'ed like that "desire vc".
appologies for just snapping the pics from an ebay-offer, but it's just to show it to you for reference! HTC logo instead of our "verizon-mark". no idea about roms or unlocks for that modified ADR6410-LRA (from my side) of course. :fingers-crossed:
according to the seller:
cheers ... so what do you think about this "sibbling"?
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I have looked at it too, its identical and should work with all our roms since its the same device and uses same kernel
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jose51197 said:
I have looked at it too, its identical and should work with all our roms since its the same device and uses same kernel
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i'm just not sure if the unluck (root etc) would work the same way. alas, not much to worry about it for myself ... since i already have my Dinc4G and here in Europe you can't buy them (regularily anyhow). was just wondering ^^
very disappointed with this phone
HTC has been disappointing me HARD as of late..
Not sure if switching back over was the right move, Samsung was great, except when they locked the s4 bootloader and there is $5,000 bounty not being claimed yet, so i doubt itll come, id rather dump this if no S-OFF and get the s4 dev edition..
I have one of these, and purchased it at an independent cell company here in east KY. So far it seems to be a good phone. Signal is good, and has all the specs I need for my use. Battery life is excellent I've been one of AT&T's faithful since the Cingular days back in the early 90's. However, just to be blunt, AT&T coverage has dropped by at least 50% over the past 5 years - hence my reason to take a stab at App Wireless App Wireless is locally owned, and actually is the oldest provider in this area. The only issue is they are somewhat higher in rates, and initial cost is higher. With that being said......
I'd love to make the switch. I still have a few months under contract with AT&T, but would be willing to pay the ETF fee. Even though App Wireless is higher in pricing, the coverage more than makes up for it. I'd much rather pay $70 for 95% coverage as to pay $50 for 50% coverage
I really need to get this thing rooted Basically just to install programs on an ext4. It surprised me as to the programs that will install to the external SD card automatically, but there are just those few that won't. Searching the forums I can't find a definitive answer on this phone. I have found where its been done on the Verizon branded, and the HTC Desire VC, plus... even the HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE.
I've searched this and other forums - is there ANYWHERE posted that this phone has successfully been rooted?
Just wanted to let everyone know that I decided to be a "rabbit", and take a chance on my new HTC Desire 4G LTE - at least that's what the independent carrier calls it. It is similar to the HTC Desire VC they offer, but the specs are closer to the HTC Droid Incredible 4g LTE.
Anyway, whenever I plugged it into a program of sorts, it recognized it as the HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE. The big difference being the Hinc is a model from Verizon, ADR6410VZW. Mine is a ADR6410LTA.
All of the other specs are identical with the exception of the CID. The Verizon is a VZW__001 that mosts posts say to SuperCID it to 11111111 to root, but the ADR6410LRA is a UTSI_005. Therefore a lot of the steps are not needed.
As of right now, my bootloader is unlocked, and the phone is rooted, and everything is working fine. I also installed TWRP. So....for those that have the LRA version instead of the Verizon, everything here applies and will work fine.
Thought this may help a few.

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