[Q] Stylus recommendations? - Asus Eee Pad Transformer Prime

I am thinking about buying a Stylus so I can take notes on my prime. I know I need to buy a certain kind but I am not sure what kind I need. Does anyone have any recommendations?
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first, dont get cheap chinese knockoffs. ive had 2 of those cheap ebay ones. and they stick to the screen and screeeeeech across it.... horrible.
i have a targus (silver body) stylus for tablets(13$ @ walmart). and it is very nice.
however to make it smooth for writing/drawing you will need an app like TouchScreenTune
you have to pay like 5$ for the license key...
but it makes the screen sensitive enough to draw a smooth round circle.
and is very quick.
good luck

If you want to use stylus for note taking...i would recommend adnoit jot pro...or dagi range of transparent tipped stylus...i hear that wacom bamboo is also good...
but the problem with rubber tipped ones is that you cannot see through to what you are writing and they are not that precise...
or you can skip all the costly ones and go make one for yourself using high density antistatic pu foam...I use this along with touchscreen tune app (thanks to the awesome developer pay him 5$ or set values every time you unlock your device) and it feels closer to normal pen as it can be...(see that forum for proper settings)
pros - ultra cheap, customizable, better performing than any i have used from the market.
cons - little less stylish, takes a few tries first time to get it right...
you can search instructables.com for detailed instruction on how to make one...you might also improve the design to your skills/liking...
Here are the Links...
http://adonit.net/product/jot-pro/
http://www.amazon.com/DAGI-Capacitive-Stylus-iPhone-P504/dp/B005HYBGKW/ref=pd_cp_pc_1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BcIupysnpzM&feature=related&noredirect=1
http://www.instructables.com/id/iPad-Stylus-also-for-Tablets-iPod-iPhone-Touc/
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1336464
http://www.nothingbuttablets.com/1638
http://www.nothingbuttablets.com/6477
here is my homemade fine tipped (almost) perfect writing stylus...

Your picture doesn't seem to want to load lol. I'll try to make my own. Just need to find some of that foam XD

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Griffin Stylus

I got one of these for Christmas and love it. No, I'm not affiliated with the company.
http://www.amazon.com/Griffin-Technology-Stylus-iPhone-touchscreens/dp/B0041D0K1Q
Great way to keep fingerprints off your shiny screen.
Doesn't look like it has a very fine point which would be the only reason I would want a stylus, for more precision... When I'm trying to grab something my steak fries are too big for..
It's got a domed tip that is squishy, so it's as precise as you want depending on pressure. The whiteboard app is the only thing I've ever seen that took advantage of a fine point and it works perfectly.
I iPad Touch came with a similar stylus. Works great. My wife got some from Taiwan that have angled rubber ends for about $0.50 a piece. They work pretty good too. Similar to an pencil eraser.
So far I haven't needed on on the G-Tab and I've got "huge" fingers.
Try it with multi memo
I have one and have used it, briefly, with an app called multi-memo for taking notes.
Those Chinese ones are so cheap. They are too light and you have to drag them across the screen minimizing accuracy. I bought it for Stickdraw, def. Not worth it. I think i'll try this one.
Is it kind of heavy or really light? I want one that's heavy like a pen.
The stylus actually has some weight to it and does indeed feel like holding a real pen, it looks and feels like a quality handwriting implement. You'd have to really work to damage the metal casing, it remains to be seen how durable the rubber dome tip will be.
Took me a few minutes to get used to the squidgy, bulbous tip but then I was navigating around, playing games with it and testing my handwriting in a paint-mode note in 'Note Everything'. If only I could find a notepad application with good handwriting recognition*, I'd be in hog heaven...
* One that actually recognizes properly formed characters, not abstract sets of strokes
I bought one of those cheap Chinese ones (3 pack for $6) and was really disappointed. Then I looked online for ways to make your own. I was familiar with using those antistatic bags from hard drives and computer components, but then noticed one method that uses a common household sponge.
I took an old metal pen I had that I really liked, but didn't have ink anymore and took the tip off. I then cut off a small cube of a new sponge (with my wife's permission) and "screwed" it into the spot where the metal tip was on the pen. Worked like a charm.
I tried it on everything from my tablet to my iPod and my phone and it worked great on everything. I playd around with the updated tablet optimized version of Autodesk Sketchbook Express and it worked out great!
There are lots of videos on YouTube of how to make them, but using a metal pen seems to be what looks best. Some of the others look terrible.
Here's a picture, in case anyone is curious. I may get a pack of a different color of sponges because I don't like yellow, but that's all my wife had at the house when I did this project.
I'm also going to retrofit those crappy Chinese styluses I got, as they have metal housings. Should work the same as the pen did. Just need to rip off the rubber heads and maybe drill out the insides to get the sponge to fit and make contact with the housing.

Best capacitive stylus?

I've been researching on amazon, YouTube and etc for a good stylus for my future prime. Since I never purchase a stylus before and have no clue which to get can you guys recommend me a good one? From personal experience...
Jot Pro and iFaraday
I myself have done ton of research and it came down to those 2.
Jot Pro if you want take notes and want to be very accurate.
http://adonit.net/product/jot-pro/
Take a look at this video of the Jot:
http://kck.st/o8eok6
iFaraday if you want to draw and multipurpose.
Here is a video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UPgs9XAjgyY
Thanks i'm interested in the iFaraday but it seems like they aren't taking any order till the 19th. Which one have you tired diesel?
I just received my Jot Pro yesterday and so far I am liking it a lot more than any other stylus on the market (and I have tried quite a few). Very accurate, and feels great in your hand.
My only grip is that I wish it had a clip to 1) keep it from rolling off the table if you forget to "dock" it with the magnet, and 2) so it could better sit/clip to a shirt pocket.
Aside from that minor annoyance, it is a quality stylus.
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xXxDieselxXx said:
Jot Pro and iFaraday
I myself have done ton of research and it came down to those 2.
Jot Pro if you want take notes and want to be very accurate.
http://adonit.net/product/jot-pro/
Take a look at this video of the Jot:
http://kck.st/o8eok6
iFaraday if you want to draw and multipurpose.
Here is a video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UPgs9XAjgyY
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Thanks for the information, I update my Guide:
Ultimate Transformer PRIME TF201 Accessory Guide
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1377669
duckied said:
Thanks i'm interested in the iFaraday but it seems like they aren't taking any order till the 19th. Which one have you tired diesel?
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I don't have them yet but I have tried them from my buddy I have to say if you combine the Jot with the iFaraday then you have the perfect stylus.
I'm planning on buying both.
The Jot for super accurate writing/drawing and the iFaraday for multipurpose, browsing, etc.
joepic said:
Thanks for the information, I update my Guide:
Ultimate Transformer PRIME TF201 Accessory Guide
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1377669
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Thanks Joe, you are doing an awesome job updating the master list - Thanks!
So I ordered a Jot Pro earlier today...one question, can one have their hands/palms on the screen while writing? Like you would when writing on real paper? Thank you....
I got a three pack of cheap ones on eBay for. 89 cents plus free shipping. Will review when I get it.
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rockstatus90 said:
So I ordered a Jot Pro earlier today...one question, can one have their hands/palms on the screen while writing? Like you would when writing on real paper? Thank you....
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I really hope you can. If so then I'll be ordering a jot pro too.
I feel like this would have to be written specifically into whatever app you're writing on-- ignoring the first thing if multiple touches are registered or something along those lines.
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^^^true, I've been looking at note taking apps and haven't seen any that would do such...I've seen reviews for these styli and their hands are suspended....how long can one write like that? I plan to do some serious note taking with this thing, like hour long meetings...the OG transformer has a note taking app thats pretty good right?
I would like ot have this functionality, but am worried about the multi touch thing. On this I think I will wait for a few reviews of the note taking before I grab a stylus. Someone who has a stylus, or more specifically the Jot, put up a review on how it works with the Prime please once you get it.
rockstatus90 said:
^^^true, I've been looking at note taking apps and haven't seen any that would do such...I've seen reviews for these styli and their hands are suspended....how long can one write like that? I plan to do some serious note taking with this thing, like hour long meetings...the OG transformer has a note taking app thats pretty good right?
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I have read an article that said that palm canceling was baked into ICS along with other stylus features, some of which will require hardware.
I hope it ends up working like it does when using a digitizer.....how I wish the prime had digitizer hardware! Per pixel accuracy and no palm/hand issues, along with erasing.
john21511 said:
I got a three pack of cheap ones on eBay for. 89 cents plus free shipping. Will review when I get it.
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I would be careful with those. Friend got a cheap capacitive stylus for his phone, and it's sticking to the screen. I bought a fancier one (kingston I think), and while I have my complaints, it glides MUCH better on the screen.
I am looking into Jot Pro, since I am not a very big fan of "eraser writing tip"
Writepad has palm rejection. Also for other apps - hide your palm in your sleeve so it doesn't register as touch.
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Writepad has palm rejection. Also for other apps - hide your palm in your sleeve so it doesn't register as touch.
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I understand there are some gloves you can use as well.
I ordered the Jot Pro today. Hopefully from what I am hearing from reviews, that I will really like this one. I bought some cheaper ones in the past and was not happy with their accuracy and the thickness of the tips.
addisdar said:
I ordered the Jot Pro today. Hopefully from what I am hearing from reviews, that I will really like this one. I bought some cheaper ones in the past and was not happy with their accuracy and the thickness of the tips.
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Cheers! I ordered mine yesterday
I heard that the jot pro gets noisy when writing on a tablet.. makes a lot of taping sounds :S which would suck if ur taking notes in a meeting or in a quite environment...
i just picked up the Boxwave stylus from amazon
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000H18JWI/ref=oh_o00_s00_i00_details
cant wait to get my hands on it along with my tablet
spex714 said:
I heard that the jot pro gets noisy when writing on a tablet.. makes a lot of taping sounds :S which would suck if ur taking notes in a meeting or in a quite environment...
i just picked up the Boxwave stylus from amazon
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000H18JWI/ref=oh_o00_s00_i00_details
cant wait to get my hands on it along with my tablet
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I'd cancel your Boxwave order and get the jot pro. Yes it can be noisier, but it writes 100x better. SMOOOTH and accurate. Seriously, there is no comparison between the two.
Does anyone have the Jot or Jot Pro stylus, and if so, have you had any issues with scratches on the screen or diminished accuracy after a few weeks of use.
Is there any metal that protrudes from the plastic disc that could scratch the screen?
I have seen several comments in other places where people have said the Jot stylus has scratched their display (Amazon has a commentor that has posted a photo of the scratches caused). And I have read that the accuracy is not as good after a few weeks use.
I have done some research and contacted the manufacturer (which replied very quickly). The explanation seems to be that dirt on the screen can cause the scratches and that the plastic tip can get loose/worn out. Apparently there may have been some defective tips early on.
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This is an excerpt from my email to Adonit:
I really want to buy a Jot Pro but I am apprehensive to spend $30 if it is
going to scratch my screen, or if it is not going to work as well after a
couple weeks of use. These issues seem to be common in review comments I
have read online.
I read one review comment that said there is "a metal protrusion in the
center of the disk. It’s very noticeable." I thought the disk was plastic.
If there is a metal protrusion I can see how it could scratch the screen...
Have these issues been resolved since the Jot and Jot Pro were first
introduced? If so, what has been done to resolve the problem?
I have a tablet with gorrilla glass (Asus Transformer Prime) on order, but
even with gorilla glass, I don't want to chance scratching up my brand new
tablet.
Please advise. Thanks!
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And this is their reply:
We have tested our product extensively, and the precision disk has proven to be very safe, even after prolonged use.
However, a sharp piece of sand or grit pressed very firmly between the Jot disc and the screen will probably scratch it, so take care to maintain a clean iPad screen. If the screen is not clear of debris, it will become scratched with the use of any stylus, or even just your finger.
We don't want you to worry, so if you think it will be a problem for you, we highly recommend that you use a screen protector to protect your screen from environmental dust and grit. Please be aware that Jot does not work well with the following screen protectors, due to their extra grip surface.
* Zagg Glossy Invisible Shield (but Smudge-Proof Invisible Shield works well)
* Ghost Armor
* Bodyguardz
* Skinomi
* Wrapsol
Glossy protectors are the least compatible with the Jot. We suggest looking at the Power Support Anti-Glare screen protector; we've heard that it works brilliantly with the Jot.
We are here if you have any further questions.
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Anyway, I thought the info in Adonit's reply would be useful regarding screen protectors, etc and I really would love to hear from Jot or Jot Pro owners regarding their experiences with it.
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best stylus for use with the prime

I am looking for the best stylus for use with the prime. I read the best stylus was the 'jot pro' so i bought it and i am not at all satisfied with it. I can write better with my finger in the asus note app.
its also really awkward to write with, with the disc an all.
What is a better alternative?
This one is very good in my opinion, since it works at any angle to the surface unlike its rubber tip counterparts.
New Trent Micro Knit Stylus
avinash60 said:
This one is very good in my opinion, since it works at any angle to the surface unlike its rubber tip counterparts.
New Trent Micro Knit Stylus
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thanks looking forward to getting this
i too bought the jot pro, returned it after 2 days. bought a targus and like it quite a bit better
i bought a bamboo one, am returning it. I'm gonna give the targus a shot.
Anyone know of a stylus that works great with a skinomi screen protector?
Just a heads up guys, after the firmware update, it looks like the jotpro works 10x better. I was about to box it up and return and gave it one more try, its now my favorite..
I have the bamboo one on the way from amazon, I'll see which I like better.
Boxwave,i am currently using this on my ipad.
EDIT:I have changed my mind,i got a free stylus with leather case for my TP from Ebay UK.
that free stylus better than boxwave. unbelievable,i cost more than 10pounds got Boxwave from Amazon UK,but a free stylus from China with high quality better than Boxwave.
Strange, and the idea was to get rid of the stylus hence adding a screen that can handle 10 fingers at once. I still think the stylus is old school technology and I can't find a thing at all why I would need one on my Prime. Now, if you bought your Prime just for taking notes...that's a lot of money just for taking notes.
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Strange, and the idea was to get rid of the stylus hence adding a screen that can handle 10 fingers at once. I still think the stylus is old school technology and I can't find a thing at all why I would need one on my Prime. Now, if you bought your Prime just for taking notes...that's a lot of money just for taking notes.
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if you bought the prime for just 1 thing, then its expensive for just one thing. i have a job where i am taking notes in meetings every day. pages and pages. it would be great to have them all filed digitally on my prime.
i didn't buy it just for that, don't be so closed minded, but its something i want to use it for. i can't take pages and pages of notes with my finger.
opentoe said:
Strange, and the idea was to get rid of the stylus hence adding a screen that can handle 10 fingers at once. I still think the stylus is old school technology and I can't find a thing at all why I would need one on my Prime. Now, if you bought your Prime just for taking notes...that's a lot of money just for taking notes.
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Who's buying these things just to take notes? That assumption is a bit of a stretch. 10 flailing sausages excel at some things, but lack the precision required for artistic endeavors or scrawling legible text in a timely manner. The stylus persists for the same reason that typing persists in lieu of voice-to-text. None are perfect for every activity/situation.
If anything, someone who uses a stylus with their tablet has the potential to engage in an even broader array of activities than their counterparts.
...and digital notes rawk, btw.
oasis9389 said:
Just a heads up guys, after the firmware update, it looks like the jotpro works 10x better. I was about to box it up and return and gave it one more try, its now my favorite..
I have the bamboo one on the way from amazon, I'll see which I like better.
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I can echo this report also, my jotpro was 'ok' before the last firmware, but after it is much better, i can actually add it to my workflow. I was also about to send it back.
I tried the bamboo, it doesn't work with the prime very well. Compare it to using on an ipad and you will know what I mean. With the prime you have to press down with so much pressure it feels like it will distort the bamboo tip. And it is very hard to maintain sufficient pressure for it to maintain contact. Ends up making dashed lines instead of solid lines. On the ipad it is smooth as butter.
I'm reading this thread as I'd like to consider using my prime with various sketch progs at work, as well as draw doodles and notes in meetings, pretty cool to just email notes with sketches right from the meeting, very useful,and a nice added feature....what are you guys using your stylus for?
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i use it for software design diagrams, website layout ideas, "chicken scratches" for later real photoshop work
i'm an architect, and in the 1.5 weeks i've had the Prime and a stylus i'm realizing how useful of a tool it can be; sketching, marking up photos from job sites, etc.
the update this past weekend has definitely improved stylus input with my jot pro.
What note taking software are you guys using with the jot pro? super note?
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What note taking software are you guys using with the jot pro? super note?
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Haven't got my Prime yet (tomorrow) but I asked the same question...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1395587
Seems SuperNote, Quill and WritePad Stylus are the best...
I plan on taking notes from meetings, extensive notes....and minor sketches, and freehand designing...
with the recent firmware update. my targus stylus actually works now! works with the skinomi screen protector.
Can anyone provide links for the jotpro and any other that work really well...
And does anyone have a jotpro and any other's to compare against after the firmware update?
I saw http://www.amazon.com/BoxWave-Slimline-Capacitive-Transformer-Stylus/dp/tech-data/B006GM57MC
Does this worth even looking at/trying out? (For $10, it's cheap enough but I don't wanna waste my time).
I really wanna use this for notes. Both for classes (math/econ, kb for most other classes) and meetings. And some sketching... among other things.
Thanks in advance!
I would prefer a smaller nib. Really need some way to write notes other than my finger thats for sure...lol

Choosing a stylus

Hi
I've tried a few cheap styli and not been that impressed, bought a low cost one off amazon which had a weird chiselled angled bit and was unusable (I was so disappointed).
The next one I have tried was from the pound shop! Works OK actually but not very precise, it has a squashy rounded edge.
I think I'd like to spend up to maybe a few pounds... will let you know...
Unfortunately, I have yet to find a capacitive stylus that doesn't have the big rounded end on it. I picked up a pair of cheapos off of Amazon for about seven dollars each last year, and while mine kinda fell apart (The tip was just held on with surface pressure - a little super glue fixed that), my girlfriend's has survived all the better. Plus they double as ballpoint pens, which is kind of nice - one piece of equipment, two functions.
I've been looking into getting a replacement stylus for myself, one that's longer and more like a traditional pen (the short squat ones are a little odd for me). However, none of them have a pen-like pointing tip. All of them are the rounded rubber fingertip-style tip.
Anyone else found a pen-like tip stylus ? I did some googling and found that the nice special narrow-point S-Pen for the Samsung Note won't work with standard devices like the S2 or the HTC Amaze (which sucks, because it's a good-looking tip).
That's interesting - I wonder how the stylus on the Samsung works, is there something different about the screen to recognise that stylus?
From what I read, there's another electromagnetic layer in the digitizer that allows for that stylus to work in a pressure environment - the longer / harder you press, the more "ink" shows on the screen, kind of like when you press harder with a pencil - the wider and darker the line.
Plus, from what I read, it isn't really capacitive, since it doesn't work on other tablets / phones, which sucks. I would love a fine(r)-tip stylus.
thx for that -
sounds like a cross between an [old fashioned?] resistive screen and a capacitive one!
I have the tried the Targus, the Bamboo, and the Samsung model for the Galaxy Tab line. The Bamboo has a good shape and is only slightly heavier than the Targus model. Samsung is the heaviest and is balanced more the way a writing instrument/heavy ball point pen would be.
I don't think the tips are really all that different though. If price is an issue and you don't like the Targus style/look, I'd say go with the Samsung. It's around $20 on Amazon while the Bamboo will cost you $30. They both definitely feel more like writing/drawing tools, and because of that they are somewhat better at making marks.
On the other hand, there is no lack of do it yourself options out there.
thx! totally cool, want to make my own now!

10.1 Keyboard Case I Finally Had To Pick a Universal and so....

with complete frsutration in no keyboard case looking to ever be made for my purchase of the top tablet at the time the Galaxy Pro i have ended my search and somewhat happy.
my first purchase after exhausting months of hoping and searching led me purchase the M-Edge Stealth which upon setting up was the most impressive 3rd party universal i had ever seen. i see no reason to go into all the details that had me loving this case because very quickly i discovered it had 1 flaw that completely killed it. one of the greatest features was t he magnet safe strap and the base was magnet as well and sadly this caused the Pro to go to sleep every time i would touch it. if you push it up in the holsters it was fine but touching it or moving it and it would slide down just a hair and that hair caused the magnets to put it to sleep. i spent some time since it was such a great case trying to make it work but with much sadness i had to return it.
my next purchase and what i am staying with is the Kensington Keyfolio Pro 2 and at this pricxe i can live with the few things i would change.
quick review:
- keyboard types nice and almost all the keys for Home , Settings, Volume, Web, Music, work and go to the app i desired. it also seems to autoconnect after casing it up and opening it back up again so functionaly it is very nice
- case sadly is not a nice leather feel like the M-Edge and although not bad it feels kinda like it might carck eventually like cheap fake leather can do but only time will tell
- it is in no way as thin as the M-Edge and much bulkier than he 11" laptop i would carry but not ridiculous to me
- it has large and small corners with velcro to allow to place it wherever on the back plate that holds it which is different put nice and allows some positioning to what you like. i will say though that i was going with the small angles anyway but the large were on it and one ripped as i tried to take it off and so i know now how to handle them.
- the Logitech or Zagg of my dreams would not have allowed me to take the keyboard out and place it where i like and i see the value in this now as well
- there is no camera hole on the back put it does state that you can cut it out and they thought of this but since i dont use the back camera for anything i dont mind
anyway hope this helps out another 10.1 like me that has been frustrated with no top of the line model available.
fletch33 said:
with complete frsutration in no keyboard case looking to ever be made for my purchase of the top tablet at the time the Galaxy Pro i have ended my search and somewhat happy.
my first purchase after exhausting months of hoping and searching led me purchase the M-Edge Stealth which upon setting up was the most impressive 3rd party universal i had ever seen. i see no reason to go into all the details that had me loving this case because very quickly i discovered it had 1 flaw that completely killed it. one of the greatest features was t he magnet safe strap and the base was magnet as well and sadly this caused the Pro to go to sleep every time i would touch it. if you push it up in the holsters it was fine but touching it or moving it and it would slide down just a hair and that hair caused the magnets to put it to sleep. i spent some time since it was such a great case trying to make it work but with much sadness i had to return it.
my next purchase and what i am staying with is the Kensington Keyfolio Pro 2 and at this pricxe i can live with the few things i would change.
quick review:
- keyboard types nice and almost all the keys for Home , Settings, Volume, Web, Music, work and go to the app i desired. it also seems to autoconnect after casing it up and opening it back up again so functionaly it is very nice
- case sadly is not a nice leather feel like the M-Edge and although not bad it feels kinda like it might carck eventually like cheap fake leather can do but only time will tell
- it is in no way as thin as the M-Edge and much bulkier than he 11" laptop i would carry but not ridiculous to me
- it has large and small corners with velcro to allow to place it wherever on the back plate that holds it which is different put nice and allows some positioning to what you like. i will say though that i was going with the small angles anyway but the large were on it and one ripped as i tried to take it off and so i know now how to handle them.
- the Logitech or Zagg of my dreams would not have allowed me to take the keyboard out and place it where i like and i see the value in this now as well
- there is no camera hole on the back put it does state that you can cut it out and they thought of this but since i dont use the back camera for anything i dont mind
anyway hope this helps out another 10.1 like me that has been frustrated with no top of the line model available.
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Moko has a keyboard case on Amazon. I bought their book cover case and it is very nice.
Cheers,
Rich
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rholm said:
Moko has a keyboard case on Amazon. I bought their book cover case and it is very nice.
Cheers,
Rich
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yeah i looked at one of those but what i dont like about it:
- the kickstand - this limits position placement where the Kensington allows from straight up with keyboard in case to almost flat and stays in any position between them
- the full edge holster - i like to see the tablet with minimum corners or preferably which only comes with ones made specifically for the tablet that it snaps into place with almost no edge
- the keyboard is large with the big palm area and it does not have all the Android specific keys to launch everything which allows me to rarely touch my screen
i am not saying it isnt nice but it wasnt what i was looking for and i doubt there is an option out there i didnt research. thanks for the info though and maybe its something others might like
Samsung has neglected the Tab Pro 10.1
Its these disappointing products that brought me to just buy a stand alone keyboard option. After almost a year of traveling around the country with my Galaxy Tab Pro 10.1, throwing it in my backpack between classes, and carrying it around to camping trips and etc. I've decided that its a little too late to purchase a case or keyboard folio at this point.
Samsung really did their customers wrong by not producing a suitable keyboard/case for the galaxy tab pro 10.1. At the very list they could have worked with 3rd parties to produce these options.

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