Can someone explain or send me a link to understand the differences between the three location options?
I keep getting the stand alone GPS "warning" and it's annoying. I've unchecked in the settings, but doesn't want to stick
Thanks in advance
Verizon Location Services (Tower Location) - obtained from data collected from local Cell Towers. This is less accurate but quick. This info is used combined with aGPS to give the GPS sensor a head start in quickly locating your location.
Stand Alone GPS - uses the location obtained from your GPS in your phone. Generally very accurate as long as you have access to the satellites. Working indoors can be iffy especially if in a large building. Uses battery power WHEN being accessed. Uses aGPS to give it a head start which is obtained from...
Google Location Services - Uses location information that Google can determine based on network access to websites etc... Wifi hotspots... etc. Typically less accurate and can be widely inaccurate at times as it may use the "address" of the IP block you are using which may not be anywhere near where you are.
Personally, I leave GPS on and leave it at that. IF it is being used, the GPS Satellite will show in the notification bar area and uses more power. If the satellite icon is not showing, it is not using power.
Thanks krelvinaz, that is exactly what I was seeking. Will follow your lead and leave the GPS alone.
Follow up question, how do you stop the "stand alone" GPS warning that comes on quite often
pmgreen said:
Thanks krelvinaz, that is exactly what I was seeking. Will follow your lead and leave the GPS alone.
Follow up question, how do you stop the "stand alone" GPS warning that comes on quite often
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There's an option not to show that, I just forget where
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Everybody has been stating that they got GPS to work, but only some left instructions. I hope this helps. Thanks to those that gave me advice on how to get this working.
Make sure unter "External GPS" that the "GPS Program port:" has "COM4" selected. Leave "Hardware" alone which is the next tab over.
Then under "Access" make sure "Manage GPS automatically" is checked
Live Search for some reason wouldnt work until I got in my car and drove away from my house. Right when I drove away, the GPS kicked in, and worked as if I had an external GPS. My settings for Live Search are "GPS COM4".
In order for TomTom to work, you first have to get your GPS location in Live Search, then launch TomTom, and then TomTom will work fine as if you had an external GPS.
My TomTom settings are "NMEA GPS receiver" then "com 4" then baud is "9600".
These are the steps i took to get GPS working with the new ROM update using the internal GPS. Havent been able to test the Rev A yet. But it seems everybody is stating that is working fine, but only some were able to get GPS working.
Hopefully this will help you all to get GPS working with the new ROM. W/o me doing these steps, I wasnt able to get GPS working. Also please note that I had to leave my house for it to work. With my Bluetooth GPS receiver I could get a location in live search or Tomtom w/o leaving the house. But for the internal GPS, i had to leave the house.
Have you tried with google maps. For some reason i can get GPS signal in my house with google, but not with live. Also, under the GPS hardware, does yours say none, and baud 9600 or 4800?
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Never mind, I got it working, live just connected in my house. I have baud set to 4800, don't think it really matters. (anyone know what baud is anyway, and what the best settings are?). I wish there was a way to do this without live though.
baud is just another word for bits per second, its the connection speed of the hardware, since its internal it probably wouldnt make much of a differnce
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Everybody has been stating that they got GPS to work, but only some left instructions. I hope this helps. Thanks to those that gave me advice on how to get this working.
Make sure unter "External GPS" that the "GPS Program port:" has "COM4" selected. Leave "Hardware" alone which is the next tab over.
Then under "Access" make sure "Manage GPS automatically" is checked
Live Search for some reason wouldnt work until I got in my car and drove away from my house. Right when I drove away, the GPS kicked in, and worked as if I had an external GPS. My settings for Live Search are "GPS COM4".
In order for TomTom to work, you first have to get your GPS location in Live Search, then launch TomTom, and then TomTom will work fine as if you had an external GPS.
My TomTom settings are "NMEA GPS receiver" then "com 4" then baud is "9600".
These are the steps i took to get GPS working with the new ROM update using the internal GPS. Havent been able to test the Rev A yet. But it seems everybody is stating that is working fine, but only some were able to get GPS working.
Hopefully this will help you all to get GPS working with the new ROM. W/o me doing these steps, I wasnt able to get GPS working. Also please note that I had to leave my house for it to work. With my Bluetooth GPS receiver I could get a location in live search or Tomtom w/o leaving the house. But for the internal GPS, i had to leave the house.
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I have everything working but tom tom 6. It says no GPS device what gives? Do you have to have Live search running in the background for tom tom to work. I close Live Search after aquiring five satellites then launch tom tom 6 and all I get is no GPS device. hehe I know this is a beta and not a release rom. I have no Idea how people can aquire a satellite in their home. Shesh I have a huge solarium and still have to go outside.
what do u mean you get five satellites? Also to answer your question, what i do is after getting the GPS fixture in Live Search, I just click start and go to Tom Tom, without doing anything to live search. It seems to close automatically when I open Tom Tom.
Does anyone know if the GPS signal comes via the Sprint towers or is my phone communicating directly with the satellites in the sky? I ask because getting a signal inside my house seems unreal.
GPS signals come from satellites which is why the signal degrades when you move inside, eventually becoming nonexistent or unreal.
When someone says they are getting five satellites it means that is how many signals their device is receiving and using to triangulate its position. It requires at least four satellite signals to triangulate a current position and the more signals it can pick up on the more accurate the triangulation.
Ks.
when i said "unreal" i meant unbelievable i have a globalsat BT308 (which is kind of old, i bought it in 2000 or 2001) and theres no way i would ever get a signal inside.
so even if i go out of sprint reception area i can still communicate with the satellites right?
For some reason I always have to setup the GPS device in TomTom. It works but as soon as I close TomTom it looses the GPS settings. Then I have to run through the setup again...
Anyone else having the same issue?
My GPS wasn't working at all until I turned on GPS location under the phone menu. Location Settings under services.
Once I turned that on my GPS started picking up satellites with in 5 seconds sitting in my house.
Does Anybody know how to get the GPS to work with iGo 2006? I am having no luck at all getting iGo to recognize the GPS device.
TomTom appears to have a bug where it does not see the port windows gps port sharing is showing because the hardware port is set to none (I think it's actually com1 for the real hardware). As a result until something OPENS the port for tomtom, it's unable to attach to it. Until this is fixed you have to launch some other program that does work first and leave it open for tomtom to open the port.
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TomTom appears to have a bug where it does not see the port windows gps port sharing is showing because the hardware port is set to none (I think it's actually com1 for the real hardware). As a result until something OPENS the port for tomtom, it's unable to attach to it. Until this is fixed you have to launch some other program that does work first and leave it open for tomtom to open the port.
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Thanks for the update. =)
Cheers!
Livesearch.
Hey guys,
Does anyone have the latest livesearch.cab
I tried to download it right now, but it keeps getting stuck.
Probably microsoft servers.
Thanks
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when i said "unreal" i meant unbelievable i have a globalsat BT308 (which is kind of old, i bought it in 2000 or 2001) and theres no way i would ever get a signal inside.
so even if i go out of sprint reception area i can still communicate with the satellites right?
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Theoretically, you should be able to get a GPS signal anywhere in the world.
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Theoretically, you should be able to get a GPS signal anywhere in the world.
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I understand that they can selectively disable regions now. (read about it in the paper when they unfogged the signals) so conceivably,we wouldn't be able to use our moguls in iraq or afganistan.
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I understand that they can selectively disable regions now. (read about it in the paper when they unfogged the signals) so conceivably,we wouldn't be able to use our moguls in iraq or afganistan.
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I think what they do is place devices selectively in those locations that send out false GPS signals to confuse the NAV devices. (probably from ground based stations or on moving convoys that are trying to NOT be detected)
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Hey guys,
Does anyone have the latest livesearch.cab
I tried to download it right now, but it keeps getting stuck.
Probably microsoft servers.
Thanks
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http://mobile.search.live.com/client/download_manual.aspx
the automatic download from live.com hasn't worked for me for a while either. it gets to around 15% and stalls...
Has anyone gotten Garmin Mobile XT to work with the internal GPS?
I am going to hold off on Flashing and give DCD some time to mature the release since I already have a G10 bluetooth reciever and have no issues but it would be nice to be able to leave that in my car and use internal when I'm not in my own car.
As far as i know...these are govt sats that are "open to the publuc." In a state of emergency or other situation, they can be blocked or certain areas can be blocked so only, say, certain govts/military could use them. This was the only way the us govt was willing and able to let the gen pop use the sats.
Alright, so I'm not sure if this has been covered or not, used search but haven't really found anything helpful. When I'm using Google maps with my data plan (T-mobile US), I get a GPS location roughly a mile from my actual position. However, when I enable wifi, my position auto-corrects to within a few hundred feet.
I've already edited /etc/gps.conf for US usage, just wondering if there is a way I can get the GPS to work accurately with my data plan. I'd use GPS Status to try and reset it, but my android build (shubCraft 1.5 CyanogenMod) freezes up, haha.
If anybody can direct me to a possible better android build with accurate GPS or help fix mine without changing builds, I'd be greatly appreciative ^.^
I know GPS isn't fully accurate on the HD2, but I figure if the wifi can get accurate readings, why not the Data plan.
have you got the gps settings correct?
On my (UK) phone the gps is more accurate than my old Navman, and also a lot faster. It updates routs changes in about 3 seconds and is accurate to about 50 yards or less. I use IGO8, but the settings used are
Com 4
manage gps automatcally
gps hardware port none baud rate 4800
I have not used the HTC gps tool, quick gps or google maps
So like everyone else, I have been having problems with the GPS on fascinate like other Galaxy S devices. However, on EB01 it works the best I have seen it work.
From a few other suggestions that I have gathered from these forums and my testing, here are the results of my testing. I compared the Fascinate against Motorola Droid that I have laying around running CM GB nightly 40.
Test settings
Wifi, 3G radios were OFF to measure pure GPS performance. GPS Test app was left running for 10 minutes with the phone screens on.
Fascinate - GPS turned on from settings menu, google location services on, VZW location services on
Droid OG - GPS turned on from settings menu, Use wifi networks ON.
Results after 10 mins
Fascinate - Satellites Used 7 or 8/10 - Accuracy 13.9 ft
Droid OG - Satellites Used 7/10 - Accuracy 39.4 ft​
GPS turned off from settings on both phones. Phones turned off for 10 minutes. Put away in closet away from window (might be too extreme, but had to make sure they were away from a clear view of the sky). Phones started again. GPS' enabled from settings menu.
Fascinate like earlier is able to get a quicker fix from the satellites.
Phones left running for 10 mins. Similar results observed as above.
So the GPS chip in the Fascinate is more accurate when it works.
To get the GPS working, I have noticed that it needs to be turned on from the settings menu. Turning it on from notification bar doesn't work
I guess thats cool. Good thing I have wifi 24/7 when I get lost?
How is this a how-to?
I see the "GPS is good when it works" part, but not the "how to get it working" part. Unless the "how to" is "turn it on in the settings".
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I see the "GPS is good when it works" part, but not the "how to get it working" part. Unless the "how to" is "turn it on in the settings".
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yes that's it
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yes that's it
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Really?
This thread is pathetic. If you want to express that you're getting good GPS results, post in General. This is not a how-to.
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Really?
This thread is pathetic. If you want to express that you're getting good GPS results, post in General. This is not a how-to.
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one would think, more people would step in development section looking for a mod for fixing GPS issues
But this isn't a mod. There is no "how to".
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But this isn't a mod. There is no "how to".
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I see other How to's in here, but a mod can move it to general, if people want it there.
Thanks man.....I figured it out from your first post....turning it on in settings works for me vs notification menu. I just learned "HOW TO" get the gps working on my SF consistantly.....seems like the right place to post this.....I guess some folks on here have nothing better to do but police the posts on the forum and fling there sarcasim...must be bored...Hey...every little bit of info helps.....
Before EB01 it wasn't necessary to go into the Settings to turn on VZW location services to get a GPS lock- you only needed to enable it in the windowshade.
I've already seen many who needed this info. Its a justified post it just lacks info in the 'How-To' part.
I get a lock just fine turning it on just from the pull-down menu. Running Super Clean 2.4.
I still get horrible accuracy. "Accurate to 2100 meters" *sigh*
For some reason I can't get a lock with wifi off.. But with wifi + gps enabled, I get an accurate lock within seconds.
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Really?
This thread is pathetic. If you want to express that you're getting good GPS results, post in General. This is not a how-to.
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Well I, for one, appreciate the tip. I was always using the notification bar to turn GPS off & on.
THanks!
When I use the drop bar to activate and then start gmaps, it takes forever, or maybe never connects. Though if I use the drop bar and then an app called GPS Essentials and look at the satellites tab, it locks in a few seconds. Its seems to be dependent on the apps that are looking for a gps position. I know on my old Omnia, gps settings were in gmaps, maybe gmaps has bad settings for our phone?
this makes sense that it would be this way, when you turn on the gps in the settings menu, you have to agree to it's terms. not so much when you turn it on via the status bar.
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Before EB01 it wasn't necessary to go into the Settings to turn on VZW location services to get a GPS lock- you only needed to enable it in the windowshade.
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agreed. this appears to be an EB01 bug. Once turned on in the settings turning it on/off will work from the notification bar for a while, until you reboot with the GPS off, then it doesn't work any more until you go to settings. I have the same problem w/ EB01, but not with DL09.
I finally get a lock, but it's lost within a few mins of using it.
Two quick notes:
1) If you are running SuperClean, the VZW location services setting does absolutely nothing. It is only used by Verizon apps (i.e. VZ Navigator) and Google Maps is not able to use the information obtained by VZW AGPS, so the entire service has been removed from the ROM.
2) The dropdown gps button is virtually worthless right now unless you leave google location services enabled all the time. There are multiple ways to turn on the GPS through the OS code, and the current implementation causes GPS lock to take nearly a minute longer (or never, if there is no AGPS data) than if you were to go into the Settings menu and turn it on. At some point, someone will probably mod the drop down to emulate the same method as the settings menu.
That being said, from inside my house, with all my AGPS data cleared, on a freshly cleaned and flashed phone, I can get a fix in less than 3 seconds, accurate to 20 meters without having location services turned on, using only standalone GPS data. With AGPS data, accuracy to 6 meters in 5-10 seconds. The trick is to turn it on from the Settings menu, not the dropdown.
I have searched all 4 forums using "standalone" "google gps" and "VZW gps" and get no results..
I am trying to understand which ones of these i should have checked when I am using the maps and/or navigation.. what is the difference? do i need all 3 checked?
i have tried a few combinations and aside from lock time, and minimal accuracy, they seem pretty much the same, except i cannot seem to get a lock from standalone by itself..
i also worry about how much juice all three of those services will suck from the phone.. in the search for the answer to my question, i did run across a thread that had several well known members here confirming that you can leave gps on and it wont drain battery unless you have an app running that needs it..
whenever I'm navigating i usually have all 4 checked but from that i know all you should really need is the standalone and Verizon..
googles mostly for searches and such like restaurants around you and what not but don't hold me to it!
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I have searched all 4 forums using "standalone" "google gps" and "VZW gps" and get no results..
I am trying to understand which ones of these i should have checked when I am using the maps and/or navigation.. what is the difference? do i need all 3 checked?
i have tried a few combinations and aside from lock time, and minimal accuracy, they seem pretty much the same, except i cannot seem to get a lock from standalone by itself..
i also worry about how much juice all three of those services will suck from the phone.. in the search for the answer to my question, i did run across a thread that had several well known members here confirming that you can leave gps on and it wont drain battery unless you have an app running that needs it..
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I would suggest a Google search if you want detailed info, but in short:
VZW = location based on cell towers (I believe this is only used by the Verizon Navigator software, but don't hold me to that)
GPS = location based on GPS satellites
Google = location based on mapped WiFi hot spots
I always have all three location services checked when using anything involving GPS and I have always gotten great results. Especially since I am using SC 2.9.2, and Adrynalyne added the Verizon location framework back into SC with 2.9.
I use my phone to track me while I run, and I have been very disappointed with the GPS accuracy of this phone. When I look back at the maps (I use Google My Tracks app), there are obvious mistakes and inaccuracies. Does anyone have any idea if there is specific information regarding the specs of the GPS used in the phone. There are settings I can tweak in the app I am using regarding GPS accuracy, but I need the specs of the phone's GPS to make sure I use the correct settings.
Thanks.
I use MyTracks for my job without issue and is about as accurate as it can get. You're never gonna have pin point accuracy with any GPS phone. It will get you within around 3 meters.
My advice is to make sure the GPS icon in the status bar is on and not blinking. If its not there it's using wireless to best guess your location. I've always had problems with GPS not activating properly with any ROM. Turning GPS off and on or even rebooting is the quick fix.
A good app to test GPS is called "GPS Fix" and its free in the Market.
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Thanks dude...
I went out today and it was better than in days past, so perhaps there was some anomaly the last time. I did turn location by wireless networks off with the phone, and I bet that was the biggest difference. I also changed the polling frequency to automatically adjust for best accurracy.
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