Hey guys,
I know ill get a biased opinion here but my galaxy note just died on me and don't really want to get another as I see it as an opportunity to get something new.
The galaxy note was everything I wanted a real big screen and very quick. What I hated was the button placement of power and volume, plus I found it hard to adjust the volume without switching the phone off and vice versa. Also the fact I had no room on the bottom or sides to rest my fingers or manouver the phone, I would always accidently hit one of the capacitive buttons. And lastly the phone was very hard to use with one hand but that was expected and touch wiz is absolutely disgusting.
When I saw the one x come out I thought great I really like that phone looks good and specs are awesome. When I went to the phone shop and picked it up it didn't feel that good or even look as good as the photos. Yet as I was holding it my eyes kept peering over at a very good looking phone..the xperia s. As I was trying to examine the one x, my eyes couldn't stop looking at the xperia s. The one main downfall for me and the one x that I could see from holding the dummy phone was that i'd run into the same problem with not having enough room to rest my fingers down the bottom. I mean I can't understand what manufacturers are thinking when designing phones with capacitive buttons..I actually hate them but if they're gonna be there we need some room to where our fingers can avoid an accidental touch. With the galaxy series its worse because you can accidently hit the home button in your pocket as you pull the phone out and at the same time end up pressing the capacitive buttons...real frustrating.
Anyway I read through a few threads here namely the one regarding if anyone was dissapointed with their purchase and the one main downfall was the capacitive buttons only responding to precise touches, I for one would see that as an advantage
I guess my question is I was comparing this handset to the galaxy nexus which I hate because its only 16gb and has the same button layout as other sammy phones or the htc one x. The other thing that draws me to the xperia is not only is it damn sexier than both the others but the price here in aus is much better.
The HTC will fetch for around 650;
The nexus around the same as HTC;
And the xperia is around the 450 mark.
Huge difference, but it leads me to wonder is this Sony's top phone if so why is it so cheap? It was from my understanding, launched just this month along with the one x?
Would anyone here think I'd miss .3 of an inch in size that I'd get from the other two or is the screen/camera that much better in the other two to justify the massive price difference?
Thanks for any feedback
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1584736
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1611053&page=2
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1606804
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1599273
Read this post
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=25140647&postcount=20
Many came from SGS2 or HTC One X to SXS and they are happy.
Read topics, there is many opinions.
Thanks for those links mate
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Dear lucky SGS II owners,
i'm thinking to replace my beloved N1 with a SGS II. The only thing is: I'm a little bit hesitant because of the size of the device. How does it feel while you have in in your trouser pocket? Usually I just put it into my pocket (without protection case or similar). I had the chance to play with a DHD and HD2, which are having similar sizes but weren't able to make a reality check with them (both were tied at the store-table).
Whats your view on this? Thanks in advance,
das_spektakel
IMHO you cant really feel it in your pocket, I find the device thin enough and light enough that it doesn't feel like you are carrying around a brick.
Although I have had to check a couple of times that I have actually put my phone in my pocket as you can forget its there...
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IMHO you cant really feel it in your pocket, I find the device thin enough and light enough that it doesn't feel like you are carrying around a brick.
Although I have had to check a couple of times that I have actually put my phone in my pocket as you can forget its there...
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Wow, thanks for your fast reply. A step further in buying it
First time its bigger next time you no longer notice .
jje
phone size with 4" screen and phone size with 4.3" screen is only a "little" bigger!
but your eyes will notice the HUGE .3 screen difference!
this is why i will never buy another phone with screen less than 4.3". wait, galaxy S2 is only 4.27" but i'm really unhappy with my htc inspire, that brick is heavy!, not comfortable to hold!
It's bigger than my old HTC Desire (same as your nexus one), but it's also lighter (116g vs 135g) and thinner (8.49mm vs 11.9mm). So really it doesn't feel like you're carrying a huge phone.
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It's bigger than my old HTC Desire (same as your nexus one), but it's also lighter (116g vs 135g) and thinner (8.49mm vs 11.9mm). So really it doesn't feel like you're carrying a huge phone.
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i agree, i had desire hd before and even tho the screen is the same it not only feels smaller to hold the thiness and weight makes it a sleek size handset that you wont find anything like this.
i found the desire hd big,fat,heavy brick and soon moved to iphone 4, now SGS2 and i couldnt be happier!
Thanks to you all for your replies. This is very convincing - so......... let's buy it
Yea thanks guys. Ill be getting one of these bad boys next week.
Cant wait to start modding and theming it.
I've been absolutely fine with the pocket size, and I love the additional screen size. The only slight downside is that I find it a bit harder to hold with one hand - I used to be able to hold the Desire comfortably between the base of my finger and the top knuckle, IYSWIM - the SGS2 is just too big for this. Not that that makes me likely to give it up though . . .
It's been a grand old spree with my Evo, but I had to get a replacement device and decided to go with a new toy. It's been a while since I've had a Samsung phone (the first one I had was a Verizon Fascinate... which was a nightmare) and a friend had one and it admittedly looked really nice. I saw PA on it in my mind the moment I booked at the phone, and it is so nice on it.
The only real downsides to the phone I've nitpicked are:
1. The power button is where I'm used to having volume buttons, and it's a comically frustrating adjustment. I'll eventually get used to it, but I turn the screen off so many times when I'm trying to turn down the volume just by force of habit, it's silly. I can live with this.
2. The phone is so light! It's all plastic, and taking the battery cover off is terrifying. You can't just peel it off top to bottom, at least, I'm afraid to because I really think it would snap in half if I did. I have to go around the edges of the back to take it off. All the HTC's I've ever had were durable enough I could just pull the cover off with no worries. Also, I'm frequently worried that I'll fling the phone by accident when using only one hand. I'm used to something more dense and heavy, like the all the aluminum in the Evo. It's a definite difference in weight, and I miss it.
But, the screen is so nice on this that it's all worth it. Despite how bright the screen is on the Evo, I love the rich blacks in AMOLED screens. I can't see any pixels on this screen, and since green is my favorite color, I'm rocking a bright green nature background that the screen does perfect justice. The dark blacks against all the green makes me happy.
I'll certainly miss my ELTE. That kickstand is going to be missed sorely, but there's also a customizable LED notifier in the GSIII with a handful of color selections, a feature which I've yet to have on any of my devices. I like having new devices to play around with too, which was the real decision maker for me. It's been a fun ride though guys, I'll miss the option of Sense. It really is so much better looking than TouchWiz, but Mobile Odin is a perfect app for an S-Off substitute because of the Sammy boot loader.
Sayonara!
Tapatalked from my shiny-new GSIII
We have some of each in the house, and I do all the setup/tweaking on them. 6 of one, half-dozen of the other. Both great phones. Hope you enjoy the S3.
Also, in the comparsions I've seen, the HTC One variants actually are 3 grams or so lighter than the S3.
http://www.engadget.com/2012/05/03/samsung-galaxy-s-iii-vs-iphone-4s-htc-one-x-lumia-900/
This was a graceful exit vs others.
Good luck
This dude gave us early birds a God damn menu key during the delayed shipments with this EVO.. I remember the countless nights at the beginning testing his work to make the multitasking button become a usable menu button.
Thank you for your hard work and have fun with your new device..
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thank you, RegnierD. have fun with your new toy.:good:
Since this thread is doing a good job of attracting trolls I've cleaned and locked it.
Thread Closed.
perhaps i am being a little too demanding, but i wanna know what phone most closely resembles my "TrIXteR" as far as button/jacks go....the Atrix is my first smartphone and still works "perfectly"....but i do realize it won't last forever.....i also understand the quad-core device choices are limited, and more will come....i just want a phone has tactile features that are similar'...i am using go launcher & widget locker, so the screen layout means nothing to me, i was and will be rooted again but do not use any roms...point is any stock android will suffice as far as UI...i just know what is inevitable ...my phone will be replacedd, and wanna plan ahead...that said, screen/demention/hardware don't matter as muc as where the volume, charger, headphone, and power button are located.
Personally I'm really disliking this pattern of newer phones getting bigger & bigger.. The new GS4 has a 5" screen??!?!?!?!?!
I've grown accustomed to Atrix's 4" screen but am willing to go up to 4.5-4.7" for the replacement. Keeping other features in mind too, I'm kinda liking the HTC One X+ or the full blown HTC One. Smaller still is the slightly older HTC One V & it still has nice features
i agree...size does matter....especially when an otterbox defender is on it...
It's a tough call. I personally pay close attention to accessories, which the Atrix 4G has many.
Not having to fiddle with cords is why I liked the Atrix 4G standard dock. Wireless charging will likely be a favorite accessory as that's what most of us use the most.
In-car use is a winner also using the car dock. For new phones, having an easy to use dock will help, or perhaps a wireless charging surface, which will stop the phone from sliding around, therefore doubling as a suitable dock surface.
I would only buy a phone with a maximum screen size of 5" for one handed use. It's amazing that a human thumb can stretch that far as it is.
Outer casing is critical in my mind. This is where the Atrix 4G fell short with it smooth plastic sides. As soon as your hands are dry, holding a smooth plastic phone in your hands is the same as clutching a melting ice cube. Therfore a phone with some amount of texture wins in my mind. In addition, the material that the outer rim to the screen is made from will determine if a shock is transmitted directly to the point of impact or transmitted evenly to the device.
I'm --> <-- this close to choosing my next phone, but knowing that the Snapdragon 800 is coming to market makes it hard to settle on something today.
I replaced mine with a galaxy note i717. Big phone. I like it. I think the galaxy s2 is basically the same phone but smaller. I replaced my wife's matrix with a pantech burst. You can get one on eBay for less than $100 USA. It has official ICS and there is development going on for cm10. note is on cm10.1. Burst screen seams better than atrix to me. Burst battery not as good and charge port is oddly placed in middle of right side
Hi
maybe u can try, nexus 4 or LG L7 that are good phones and have almost the same ergonmics
whats the better phone... pros and cons? IM gonna ask this in the htc one forum as well
I own both right now. I'm done with HTC after this phone. Terrible battery life, mediocre RF performance, and to top it off, phone is JUST getting 4.2.2. At this rate, we won't see KLP on the One until next year. Samsung released the S4 with the newest version of Android. To top it off, they saddle it with a crappy camera.
The only pros to the One are the build quality (even then, mine has gaps on the side) and the stereo speakers
Pros to the S4:
- better battery life (lasts a day easily)
- expandable memory, removable battery
- more vivid screen (if you watch videos/movies on your phone, the S4 won't disappoint)
- superior RF performance
- larger dev community
- better button placement (power button on the top is stupid on the One)
- better future resale (I only bought the One because I picked one up for cheap. The S4s are still going for $500+ on CL. The One is at $350-400 here on CL)
- software updates (Samsung already released this phone with the newest version of Android and have already pledged KLP. Plus the 4.3 rom has already been leaked)
HTC is too hung up on appearances to make a fundamentally good phone. Skip the One, save yourself the headache, get the better Samsung. There's a reason why they are #1.
It was a very easy choice for me.
Pros to Samsung:
Better company support
Much larger developer network
Shipped with latest software
Removable battery :good:
Expandable memory :good:
Samsung's momentum coming off of 2 amazing phone platforms
Cons to Samsung:
Battery door could use some structural rigidity
I personally don't care for the hidden menu layout and CSC but that is probably not even considered when comparing the two.
Pro to HTC:
Better audio processing
Better speaker placement
Aesthetically prettier
Con to HTC:
HTC was supposed to implement the One series flagship support with the release of their OneX which was a turd. It didn't get it's JB update until literally every other phone released within it's generation and the generation prior got theirs.
Carrier specific status is never good, and harms the overall growth of user development.
I believe 4.2.2 was just released for the One, I stopped caring a while ago though
Non-Removable battery
Non-Expandable memory :good:
Severe LACK of momentum coming off the slew of carrier specific OneX, OneS, OneSV, OneV, OneX+, OneSV+, One___, and all other variants within said carriers which all made the firmwares non-interchangeable
HTC's history with sporadic issues. Rezound generation had touch response issues. One___ generation(including dna) had SIM connection issues rendering the device an expensive mp3 player until reboot.
Stock UI is completely personal choice and changeable so it's neither a con or a pro.
I was in your position a few weeks ago. The only thing the one has over the s4 is the loudspeaker. I don't care about that because wear headphones when I listen to music or watch movies. The one has retarded button placement. I think I'd feel lost without a menu button. I don't even thin the build is better at all. I don't think it's possible to get a better looking phone when you put the neo hybrid case on the s4.
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Samsung's button placement is horrible. Htc's power button on top prevents from accidental wake ups. And considering right handed people are the majority, the volume rocker on the s4 is on the wrong side. It's going to take me forever to stop turning the screen off when I wasn't the volume louder!
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I should also mention that this guy on my Facebook has a One and the other day he uploaded a few pics of him at a beach and I couldn't believe how horrible they were. I had heard the camera wasn't very good but wow I never imagined it to be that lousy. On the other hand, the S4 camera is amazing, especially outside during the day.
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mario182005 said:
Samsung's button placement is horrible. Htc's power button on top prevents from accidental wake ups. And considering right handed people are the majority, the volume rocker on the s4 is on the wrong side. It's going to take me forever to stop turning the screen off when I wasn't the volume louder!
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Why is it that pretty much every other phone on the market (LG, Motorola, Nokia) all have the power button on the right? HTC messed up on the fundamentals. Phone is too big for the button to be on the top
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Chadly said:
I was in your position a few weeks ago. The only thing the one has over the s4 is the loudspeaker. I don't care about that because wear headphones when I listen to music or watch movies. The one has retarded button placement. I think I'd feel lost without a menu button. I don't even thin the build is better at all. I don't think it's possible to get a better looking phone when you put the neo hybrid case on the s4.
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Awesome looking case! I'll have to buy it when I'm sick of my S View cover
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It's a matter of track record
At the end of the day, unless the One's superior speakers and build quality are the deciding factors for you, I recommend the GS4.
Both are flagship phones. Both are top of their class. Instead of comparing the phones, I compared the companies because this gave me a better indicator of reliability and continued support. At the end of the day, the physical differences between the HTC One and Samsung S4 are negligible and almost entirely down to personal preference. However, the difference between HTC and Samsung is major.
Dubbsy does a good job breaking down the differences in support in his comment so I won't rehash it all, but I do encourage you to take a look at it. HTC is in trouble. They have lost a lot of leadership recently, which means that they have to bring new leadership in. This always presents a problem for continuinity. This could be a very good thing for HTC going forward considering the lackluster success of their previous products. Furthermore, with the failure of the HTC First, HTC has now placed all of their eggs in one basket with the HTC One. This could in turn bode well for consumers because HTC cannot afford to abandon them. Time will tell, but until then, it is a gamble. In comparison, Samsung has a proven track record with the success of the GSIII.
Dubbsy said:
It was a very easy choice for me.
Pros to Samsung:
Better company support
Much larger developer network
Shipped with latest software
Removable battery :good:
Expandable memory :good:
Samsung's momentum coming off of 2 amazing phone platforms
Cons to Samsung:
Battery door could use some structural rigidity
I personally don't care for the hidden menu layout and CSC but that is probably not even considered when comparing the two.
Pro to HTC:
Better audio processing
Better speaker placement
Aesthetically prettier
Con to HTC:
HTC was supposed to implement the One series flagship support with the release of their OneX which was a turd. It didn't get it's JB update until literally every other phone released within it's generation and the generation prior got theirs.
Carrier specific status is never good, and harms the overall growth of user development.
I believe 4.2.2 was just released for the One, I stopped caring a while ago though
Non-Removable battery
Non-Expandable memory :good:
Severe LACK of momentum coming off the slew of carrier specific OneX, OneS, OneSV, OneV, OneX+, OneSV+, One___, and all other variants within said carriers which all made the firmwares non-interchangeable
HTC's history with sporadic issues. Rezound generation had touch response issues. One___ generation(including dna) had SIM connection issues rendering the device an expensive mp3 player until reboot.
Stock UI is completely personal choice and changeable so it's neither a con or a pro.
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Wtf?
mario182005 said:
Samsung's button placement is horrible. Htc's power button on top prevents from accidental wake ups. And considering right handed people are the majority, the volume rocker on the s4 is on the wrong side. It's going to take me forever to stop turning the screen off when I wasn't the volume louder!
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Having the power button on top means I'm accidentally hitting it when i pull it out of my pocket and it is harder to reach when I really want to push it.
Having the power button on the right side means it is right there for my thumb to press. Always available and extremely easy to push. Having the volume rocker on the left side means my middle and pointer fingers have easy access to change the volume when I'm casually holding my phone.
You could train a dog to use these buttons, but you seriously can't remember that your volume rocker is on the left? Sounds like personal problem more than an issue with the phone in my opinion.
This is coming from someone who previously was using an HTC device to the S4. Buttons are better on the S 4 than HTC devices.
I can't help but agree on the button issues. The side buttons make sense on my right hand.. I can manipulate all three buttons without looking.. much better than my Rezound.
My rezound was my last HTC phone. I have no desire to move to a phone where I can't change the battery, or storage... and have to hope for software updates. If HTC changes in the future ..OK. but right now, they just aren't an attractive option.
Button placement making your choice of phones is pretty crazy IMO. I've had my buttons all sorts of ways and none of them ever bothered me to the point I looked in the mirror and said "you jackass if you only would have bought the one with the other button configuration your life would be soo much better." I think people who are accidentally pressing buttons need to retrain their meathooks to pull their phones out of wherever they happen to be residing at the time. I do miss the dedicated camera button from my old motorolas. But again, I'll live.
More rediculous reasons from my friend who is gettings a nokia windows phone next time because of his poor user experience with the HTC OneX he got over the GS3 because he didn't like samsung at all:
"they(samsung) are getting too much like apple"
"samsung people will blindly buy anything samsung puts out"
"feels cheap" <mind you his phone's sim card daily would stop working and to fix it he had to put a piece of tape on the back of it so the contacts would actually make reliable contact. And his 8month old was able to shift his screen up so that a line of light could be seen on the bottom side. Feeling cheap and actually being a POS are totally different. :good:
"every hipster has one(gs3 and gs4)"
"they are the apple in android's eye" <was being clever when I pointed out facts
"people need to accept change and understand that non-removable batteries and cloud storage are the future"
mario182005 said:
Samsung's button placement is horrible. Htc's power button on top prevents from accidental wake ups. And considering right handed people are the majority, the volume rocker on the s4 is on the wrong side. It's going to take me forever to stop turning the screen off when I wasn't the volume louder!
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Only if you do not use a case, which is a tad dangerous due to glass taking up most of the surface. All cases have recess areas for the buttons.
I have both and as soon as VZW gets the One I am going back to it. The S4 is a great phone with a ton of features but I seriously miss my One that I had on Sprint.
For me, the cons were better (front!) speakers, screen, and overall aesthetics. I will miss the battery life from the S4 most of all though. I had finally gotten used to the newest Sense UI too after years of going back and forth from TouchWiz and Sense devices.
Hours, days, and numerous reviews and arguments between the two as an ex-HTC"Fanboy" and absolutely despising Samsung... I have a Samsung Galaxy S4. Enough said. Lol. HTC got on my last nerve with the EVO LTE. I checked out the HTC One which was my 100% set choice when going in for a purchase until I picked it up and checked it out. Sure the OS is kind of cool and there's no lag but I don't want to cut my fingers on its horrible build or have a smaller screen after checking out the GS4 and Note II. HTC won't get my cash in the future unless they release another EVO.
I love my s4 and the only reason I would consider the one is because I prefer a smaller device and the stealth black one looks da** good. The removable battery and SD expansion won me over. I'm sure the one will have great battery life initially... But the inability to swap in a new battery in 9 or 10 months when the battery naturally starts to degrade made my decision a no brainer
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Most HTC phones are returned due to dead pixels
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I have always liked HTC phones. My last three phones have been HTC. I like they way they look, and the premium build quality of the the One X and later models only added to that. And I am one of the few that actually liked Sense. I was pretty sure I was going to get the M8... then I test drove it in the AT&T store. Why oh why HTC? No, I am not talking about the flimsy camera and the weird fingerprint reader knockoff.
1) Why occupy so much real estate with those two giant front-facing speakers? Exactly how many people listen to music on their speakerphone? Yeah, it happens in one particular community, but I don't think HTC was targeting that primarily that type of customer with this feature.
2) More importantly, what's up with the fat bezel below the screen with the HTC logo on it. I am so used to having the navigation buttons down there that kept pressing the blank areas around the logo. It seems that HTC is aware of this tendency, as touching the left and right areas triggered the buttons immediately above. However, the behavior of the HTC logo was maddeningly inconsistent. Sometimes it would trigger the area above it, sometimes not.
How do you find this "feature"? I really wish they had found a more discrete way to put their logo on the face of the phone (hey, even image-obsessed Apple does not do that). If they really wanted it on the face they should have at least put it on the top of the screen where it is out of the way.
Am I missing something about this feature, or is it really as boneheaded as it appears. This alone is making me want to buy a different brand phone. I don't like the S5 and it seems the Xperia is not going to be available in the US for a while, so as of now I am waiting for the LG G3.
There are components underneath it.
At least that's what I read a long time ago before the phone came out.
HTC M8
Their is hardware beneath, and if they were to make the screen longer the screen's ratio would be off. It is not annoying actually. This is my first HTC phone but I got used to it really fast.
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I thought it would be annoying and hated it in pictures and actually decided not to get it bc of this, but then my wife surprised me with the m8 and it doesn't bother me in the least coming from the m7. This is an awesome phone and the fastest phone ever.
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Don't even notice it
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yes these "lower bezel" complaints are ridiculous. You don't notice it at all, and it's there for a reason - some hardware (and I believe antennas) were placed there because the back was all covered with metal.
is kind of annoying during the first week or so, after that you just get used to it, but I do think that HTC should at least leave the capacitve buttons in there to justify the bezel and give us a full screen user experience.
Still occasionally bothers me when looking at other phones/manufacturers who found a way to avoid this. But then I hold their phones and am all good again.