I have s-off, what can i do now. Was it only to get the *locked* back?
One big deal for a lot of people is that you will be able to make and restore nandroid backups without having to seperately go into hboot and flash the kernel (boot.img) for what you're restoring.
Also people want to be able to download and flash roms in a single file and installation process. Once devs begin packaging them for s off, you won't do the old two file method of rom in recovery followed by PH98IMG.zip in hboot.
Everything will be included in recovery.
And to me the big deal is that you can flash the latest ice cream sandwich radio firmware by flashing the RUU, and whenever you want you can how back to the gingerbread radio firmware and gingerbread roms. As opposed go how its always been where once you upgraded there was no going back for radio firmware.
Also people will tell you that's the reason that we don't have a lot more developers on our device is because of s off. I personally think that's wishful thinking, and the user base is a reason a lot of devs walked away, but I'm passing along the information since its posted constantly that once s off is achieved there will be a line of devs a half mile long begging to get to the rezound.
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CharliesTheMan said:
One big deal for a lot of people is that you will be able to make and restore nandroid backups without having to seperately go into hboot and flash the kernel (boot.img) for what you're restoring.
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Quick question, Charlie. I came from the Dinc and am used to backup/restore including the kernels. If I were to do a backup right now(already did), after being s-off, will it include the kernel? Or, does something in the process need to be modified before the kernel is included in the backup? I have a feeling it will be included right off the bat, but just curious.
You can flash one of the awesome splash screens in my thread in the theme section
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Quick question, Charlie. I came from the Dinc and am used to backup/restore including the kernels. If I were to do a backup right now(already did), after being s-off, will it include the kernel? Or, does something in the process need to be modified before the kernel is included in the backup? I have a feeling it will be included right off the bat, but just curious.
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Backups done by amon ra included the kernel you just couldn't restore it without con's nandroid helper. So when you go to backup and it lets you select what to backup, make sure boot has an x next to it.
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nosympathy said:
Backups done by amon ra included the kernel you just couldn't restore it without con's nandroid helper. So when you go to backup and it lets you select what to backup, make sure boot has an x next to it.
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Thank you. That's what I didn't have to do on the Dinc, because I used CWM. I'll make sure to have this checked in Amon Ra. Although, I think it's checked by default.
No sympathy is correct, I actually meant to add that and I forgot because I was try to wrap up the book I wrote in that post.
He and gadget have posted boot animations as well as I believe the other guy was Andybones.
I've flashed two of no sympathys splash screens I believe as well as the bamf splash screen I'm running now.
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Does S-Off mean we have a better chance of getting RIL working on AOSP possibly? I think I kept reading that AOSP wasn't ever going to be possibly until we got S-Off.
Also how the hell did we get S-Off? Did HTC release it, or did someone find a bootleg way to get S-Off with their own research? I was on XDA like a day or two ago before S-Off was ever mentioned then all the sudden we have it.
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Does S-Off mean we have a better chance of getting RIL working on AOSP possibly? I think I kept reading that AOSP wasn't ever going to be possibly until we got S-Off.
Also how the hell did we get S-Off? Did HTC release it, or did someone find a bootleg way to get S-Off with their own research? I was on XDA like a day or two ago before S-Off was ever mentioned then all the sudden we have it.
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Some guys advocate that AOSP devs will flock back to the rezound if we have s off.
We got s off because some developers from a completely different device put in a crapload of time and effort in order to figure out the exploit and then test it on our devices.
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Some guys advocate that AOSP devs will flock back to the rezound if we have s off.
We got s off because some developers from a completely different device put in a crapload of time and effort in order to figure out the exploit and then test it on our devices.
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*bow* hats off to those developers then.
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Some guys advocate that AOSP devs will flock back to the rezound if we have s off.
We got s off because some developers from a completely different device put in a crapload of time and effort in order to figure out the exploit and then test it on our devices.
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The flock of new developers may be wishful thinking honestly. But I'm thankful to the guys who figured this exploit out. Genius
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One big deal for a lot of people is that you will be able to make and restore nandroid backups without having to seperately go into hboot and flash the kernel (boot.img) for what you're restoring.
Also people want to be able to download and flash roms in a single file and installation process. Once devs begin packaging them for s off, you won't do the old two file method of rom in recovery followed by PH98IMG.zip in hboot.
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This is my main reason. My Rezound loves the radios and Incredikernel. So I did a mixture of the 3, s-0ff, ics firmware, & Ineffabilis. Also just re-packed a GB rom that included kernel boot.img flashing and it worked BEAUTIFULLY. No PH98IMG flashing done at all.
Also, can always go back to Rezrom Ex 3.4 via nandroid without issue.
Does anyone know if we will be able to get the mount points changed for sdcard and sdcard2? I know recovery reads the actual sdcard, but for apps backing up data, it all goes to the internal "sdcard". More than once have I gotten in a rush and forgot to backup my internal sdcard. just hoping we can get that changed around.
Someone should know this
Is there anything to gain with supercid on this device?
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Will the process get any easier for s off I am a noob with this s off and roms in general for the rezound because I have yet to flash a new rom on
This phone it came with clean rom 3.7(bought on swappa) and I have no clue what some ppl are taking I came from a tbolt easy to flash rooms so was the razor but I'm just so lost with this phone
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Will the process get any easier for s off I am a noob with this s off and roms in general for the rezound because I have yet to flash a new rom on
This phone it came with clean rom 3.7(bought on swappa) and I have no clue what some ppl are taking I came from a tbolt easy to flash rooms so was the razor but I'm just so lost with this phone
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the process now is easy. takes hardly any time. the wire trick isnt bad at all took me twice to get it with paper clip is all
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Will the process get any easier for s off I am a noob with this s off and roms in general for the rezound because I have yet to flash a new rom on
This phone it came with clean rom 3.7(bought on swappa) and I have no clue what some ppl are taking I came from a tbolt easy to flash rooms so was the razor but I'm just so lost with this phone
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This process is DEAD SIMPLE ... Just time consuming if you can't get the "wire Trick" timing down.
All devices are different. All I can suggest is READ ... READ ... READ
Since you don't really even know what you want to do ... S-Off can wait. Then maybe a different s-off process may be available when you DO need it. I doubt it will be "easier" though.
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the process now is easy. takes hardly any time. the wire trick isnt bad at all took me twice to get it with paper clip is all
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Alright I may give it a try but I hope someone comes up with a YouTube tutorial of the whole process ...I dont want to insult devs saying its to hard because I know how hard they worked and I appreciate it ..I'm just confused lol
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One big deal for a lot of people is that you will be able to make and restore nandroid backups without having to seperately go into hboot and flash the kernel (boot.img) for what you're restoring.
Also people want to be able to download and flash roms in a single file and installation process. Once devs begin packaging them for s off, you won't do the old two file method of rom in recovery followed by PH98IMG.zip in hboot.
Everything will be included in recovery.
And to me the big deal is that you can flash the latest ice cream sandwich radio firmware by flashing the RUU, and whenever you want you can how back to the gingerbread radio firmware and gingerbread roms. As opposed go how its always been where once you upgraded there was no going back for radio firmware.
Also people will tell you that's the reason that we don't have a lot more developers on our device is because of s off. I personally think that's wishful thinking, and the user base is a reason a lot of devs walked away, but I'm passing along the information since its posted constantly that once s off is achieved there will be a line of devs a half mile long begging to get to the rezound.
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Wow it's been a long time since I was last s-off...until now! But surely they haven't managed being able to flash a rom and a new hboot along with a radio all in recovery?
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Is EXT4 recovery compatible now with our S-Off rezounds?
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This is beginning to get out of control with all of the thread jacking and such with mainver issues. Anyway, read on.
NEW INFO: FLASH THIS: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=23169557&postcount=4\
PROBLEM SOLVED!
Old info if you care:
Q. What is MainVer?
A. MainVer is a string that HBOOT keeps track of that keeps the latest version of the RUU or PH98IMG.zip that has been flashed.
Q. Why does HTC have this?
A. In order to prevent downgrading with an RUU.
Q. I haven't run an RUU. How was my MainVer updated?
A. There are 2 reasons your MainVer could have been updated at this point.
The Original ICS Leak
DSB's new BAMF Rom (downloaded 1/17/2012 or later)
The original ICS leak that some of you flashed was still in RUU image form. Unfortunately, this was distributed with an updated MainVer string in the android-info.txt. When this was flashed, the new MainVer string was recorded into your device. DSB for some reason also included this new android-info.txt in his kernel PH98IMG.zip that is packed with his rom. I am not quite sure why he did that.
Q. What does this mean for me?
A. See new text at the top
Q. Why won't devs just add the new mainver to their roms to make my life easier?
A. They could, but then they would be forcing everyone to have this problem, not just you. It would also prevent everyone from using an RUU to repair their phones until a new one came out.
More Info:
No matter if you are going GB->GB or GB->ICS or ICS->GB you will need to have the correct mainver for your device. If you aren't having trouble going from rom to rom right now, you shouldn't even be looking at this guide. But if you got your mainver updated, you need to replace the android-info.txt for every single rom forever (until a new RUU comes out and it is safe to unify everyone's mainver)
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That was quick! Nice work, Con. Hopefully this will help everyone out having these issues. I'll make sure I bookmark this page to link to if anyone should have issues. Thanks!
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That was quick! Nice work, Con. Hopefully this will help everyone out having these issues. I'll make sure I bookmark this page to link to if anyone should have issues. Thanks!
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Thanks! That is a good idea about the bookmark. Ill do that too.
Yeah I had to answer this question a few times... this Q/A should make it easier.
I want to be sure I understand this correctly. If I flash an ICS rom I need to use the android-info mainver source 3.10.605.7 and if I want to revert back to a stock rom I need to use the android-info mainver source 1.02.605.6?
I have not installed any ICS roms yet, waiting for some more of the bugs to get worked out. I've been reading where many people are having issues with installing ICS roms and struggling with reverting back to stock.
I will try to make that more clear. Hold on.
I make a motion to sticky this thread. Anyone 2nd this motion?
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con247 said:
I will try to make that more clear. Hold on.
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Thanks Con for the quick reply! I like to look over these forums and make sure I'm understanding some of the issues that are currently going on. I've been flashing roms for awhile but still consider myself a noob. Thanks again!
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I make a motion to sticky this thread. Anyone 2nd this motion?
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Yeah, definitely a 2nd for very this useful post. Especially since a lot of the ROM threads are getting off topic because of this. I saw Scott posted a link to this thread in his release posts. Good idea for the Devs to link back here too
Yeah this needs to be stickied...
Con... here is a post I did explaining Mainver... It is a bit more simplified, might be easier to follow for the new guys. (it also explains what RUU files are and what they do)
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RUU files are the official software releases from HTC.
RUU files are signed. (They give proper "official" codes to hboot to get past the s=on security)
This means that they can flash all parts of the device, even the bootloader and radio firmware, which we can not normally flash because it is write locked. (do to s=on we can't flash them even with root)
Sometimes people have issues and need to get the phone back to pure stock so they use the RUU.
Mainver is data on the software version number of the kernel (I believe... it may be for some other part, either way it is version info)
Think V1... V1.2... V1.5... V1.5.5
Because of s=on we are not allowed to "downgrade/revert" to older software versions.
The leaked ICS build has a newer Mainver, some people flashed the leak unmodified, and that changed the Mainver info. Now they need to use a special trick to trick the s=on security to allow flashing of older kernels. The ICS ROMs we have now, have been modified so they do not change the Mainver. This makes it easier to go back to GB or switch to other ROMs.
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I am sorry but I am trying to make sense of all this. I am on Scott's CleanRom 2.1 will I need to use these instructions to go back to my stock room? This is my first HTC, I've only had Motorola phones up till now and I hate to admit it but this is all a bit over my head. I have been studying these forums for the last 2 days and I really have no clue how to use the backup I made of my stock GB Rom or even what kernel to use. I do regret not waiting to mess with this phone. Any help is greatly appriciated and I love all the work you have all put into this phone. Thanks in advance.
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I am sorry but I am trying to make sense of all this. I am on Scott's CleanRom 2.1 will I need to use these instructions to go back to my stock room? This is my first HTC, I've only had Motorola phones up till now and I hate to admit it but this is all a bit over my head. I have been studying these forums for the last 2 days and I really have no clue how to use the backup I made of my stock GB Rom or even what kernel to use. I do regret not waiting to mess with this phone. Any help is greatly appriciated and I love all the work you have all put into this phone. Thanks in advance.
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You're pretty much good because Scott's ROM does not update your MainVer. This is only for those ROMs that updated the MainVer. All you will need to do is restore your nand and flash the stock rooted kernel with Scott's Clean Flash tool. It's really more simple than you would think. You can find the Clean Flash tool and the stock rooted kernel in the dev forum. Just make sure that there is no PH98IMG.img on your ext sd card before you try to revert to your nandroid. Once you have restored your nand, you need to get to HBoot using the clean flash tool to make sure that you flash the stock rooted kernel. If you have the PH98IMG on your ext SD card, you would be kind of boned. Hope this helps a little.
So I flashed BAMF once, but it was weeks ago and I've since been using GingerSense without any issues, and that flashed fine after I tossed his boot.img back on, and then again after I did a full wipe a few nights ago. Is there any way to easily tell which mainver we're currently on? I'm assuming I'm ok since I haven't had to do anything else while flashing his ROM, guess I just wanna make sure.
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So I flashed BAMF once, but it was weeks ago and I've since been using GingerSense without any issues, and that flashed fine after I tossed his boot.img back on, and then again after I did a full wipe a few nights ago. Is there any way to easily tell which mainver we're currently on? I'm assuming I'm ok since I haven't had to do anything else while flashing his ROM, guess I just wanna make sure.
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I believe mainver only changed if you flashed rezound cubed 1.0.2. If you didn't flash that, like I did, you should be fine.
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Well if that's true then yeah I'm ok, I see 1.0.2 is from 1/17 and I know I flashed it well before that, so I guess that explains why I haven't had any issues. Thanks!
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Well if that's true then yeah I'm ok, I see 1.0.2 is from 1/17 and I know I flashed it well before that, so I guess that explains why I haven't had any issues. Thanks!
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Thanks, I added that date to the OP
It worked
Wasabi, I appriciate you giving me the little extra i needed to get back to stock. Thanks for the help.
So, is the MainVer stuck at the higher version number even if you manually flash the older boot.img from the PC?
The boot.img is independent of the mainver. Once you have it set higher, it can never go back. Possibly on an S-OFF device, but that would be pointless.
Oh thrill. So no ICS for us who flashed the dsb kernel? I hope the real HTC ICS is out soon then.....
Due to WiFi issues on the release day OS, I took the 1.22 OTA and screwed root. I knew it would happen but the fixes outweighed the issues. I waited to see if root would be achieved via Regaw or the like since I didn't want to lose any of my configuration. Now... Sense 4.1 was just too tempting to pass up and since I wasn't rooted anyways, I went for it.
I decided to attempt root and start from scratch anyways as I was having random app issues and some bloat problems.
The root method from HTC Dev worked flawlessly on the new new OTA and I was able to load TWRP and SuperUser via fastboot (instructions can be found by searching as I did).
So now here is the question: where does this leave me as far as flashing ROMs... Obviously I am aware that I am S-On and know those limitations. My issue is if and where any limits may apply now that I am HBOOT 1.19. Will I be stuck with only 2.13 ROMs that we're built based on the new HBOOT or can I flash any Rom based on 2.13 (or even older revisions)? I cant risk bricking so I am asking to be cautious as well as your answers providing any new users coming in with new phones running the latest OTA.
Thanks
Why did HTC update hboot 1.15? Because they discovered an exploit flaw that we could gain S-OFF with, which is FAR better than being on HTC Dumlock. If you are not concerned with obtaining S-OFF via LazyPanda and the like, this should not be a concern.
Also, being on the new hboot means that backwards compatibility to ROMs that are not based on the new OTA could become an issue.
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New h boot for you only means that you won't be able to get s-off for a very long time probably since nobody has figured out how to even s-off h boot 1.15 yet. You shouldn't have an issue flashing any rom from my understanding as long as it's through recovery.
Edit : I would listen to Michael on this one regarding ROMs sounds like he knows more lol.
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natefuhr said:
Due to WiFi issues on the release day OS, I took the 1.22 OTA and screwed root. I knew it would happen but the fixes outweighed the issues. I waited to see if root would be achieved via Regaw or the like since I didn't want to lose any of my configuration. Now... Sense 4.1 was just too tempting to pass up and since I wasn't rooted anyways, I went for it.
I decided to attempt root and start from scratch anyways as I was having random app issues and some bloat problems.
The root method from HTC Dev worked flawlessly on the new new OTA and I was able to load TWRP and SuperUser via fastboot (instructions can be found by searching as I did).
So now here is the question: where does this leave me as far as flashing ROMs... Obviously I am aware that I am S-On and know those limitations. My issue is if and where any limits may apply now that I am HBOOT 1.19. Will I be stuck with only 2.13 ROMs that we're built based on the new HBOOT or can I flash any Rom based on 2.13 (or even older revisions)? I cant risk bricking so I am asking to be cautious as well as your answers providing any new users coming in with new phones running the latest OTA.
Thanks
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Yes, you will be stuck flashing 2.13 roms with the 2.13 kernel. However, you can use one of the workaround methods (fastboot, flash image gui, twrp dumlock) to flashing an older kernel, and then flash roms based on a previous OTA base.
A ROM doesn't include an HBoot though, so there shouldn't be ROM/HBoot compatibility issues, right?
No, you can flash whatever version of android you want
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No, you can flash whatever version of android you want
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I don't think that's quite right (I could be wrong though).
If he wants to flash a JB-based ROM, he will definitely have to flash the boot.img separately via one of the workarounds mentioned.
If he wants to move between Sense-based ROMs, he *might* be OK. But he will not get any tweaks the dev may have made to the kernel included with his respective ROM.
I was referring to the question above me that asked about ROMs interfering with hboots
Having an old ROM on a new hboot won't cause issues.
Naturally, you need to have a working kernel for your ROM. So yes, you'll need to make sure you have the right kernel.
If he goes from any ROM to a ROM on a different base you'll have to install the correct kernel. . But I don't think that's what he was asking
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Got it. I thought you were replying in general.
natefuhr said:
Due to WiFi issues on the release day OS, I took the 1.22 OTA and screwed root. I knew it would happen but the fixes outweighed the issues. I waited to see if root would be achieved via Regaw or the like since I didn't want to lose any of my configuration. Now... Sense 4.1 was just too tempting to pass up and since I wasn't rooted anyways, I went for it.
I decided to attempt root and start from scratch anyways as I was having random app issues and some bloat problems.
The root method from HTC Dev worked flawlessly on the new new OTA and I was able to load TWRP and SuperUser via fastboot (instructions can be found by searching as I did).
So now here is the question: where does this leave me as far as flashing ROMs... Obviously I am aware that I am S-On and know those limitations. My issue is if and where any limits may apply now that I am HBOOT 1.19. Will I be stuck with only 2.13 ROMs that we're built based on the new HBOOT or can I flash any Rom based on 2.13 (or even older revisions)? I cant risk bricking so I am asking to be cautious as well as your answers providing any new users coming in with new phones running the latest OTA.
Thanks
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I'd like to re-root after taking the OTA and I've searched all over for the instructions on how to load TWRP and SuperUser via fastboot, but can't find it. Can you assist?
Thanks
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I was referring to the question above me that asked about ROMs interfering with hboots
Having an old ROM on a new hboot won't cause issues.
Naturally, you need to have a working kernel for your ROM. So yes, you'll need to make sure you have the right kernel.
If he goes from any ROM to a ROM on a different base you'll have to install the correct kernel. . But I don't think that's what he was asking
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but, a ROM includes a Kernel, so when you flash a ROM you're swapping kernels.
The only kernel incompatibility would be if you flashed a ROM then flashed a Kernel, then you have to be careful.
If anybody is absolutely certain that this isn't the case and not just guessing, let me know and I'll stand corrected.
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but, a ROM includes a Kernel, so when you flash a ROM you're swapping kernels.
The only kernel incompatibility would be if you flashed a ROM then flashed a Kernel, then you have to be careful.
If anybody is absolutely certain that this isn't the case and not just guessing, let me know and I'll stand corrected.
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That's true for 1.12, since it allows you to flash kernels through recovery. The newer versions don't. That's the reason for using the fastboot or dumlock workarounds. That being said, I haven't heard anyone confirm yet that these methods still work on 1.19...I'm interested to know.
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I've been waiting for s-off forever, then it finally came but long story short gf saw update (hboot 1.15) and accepted and I'm wondering since there's still no s-off, and this is a very silly question but I've never used Dev unlock, is nandroid backup possible in case something does go wrong
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I've been waiting for s-off forever, then it finally came but long story short gf saw update (hboot 1.15) and accepted and I'm wondering since there's still no s-off, and this is a very silly question but I've never used Dev unlock, is nandroid backup possible in case something does go wrong
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From what I can tell... No. You have to run HTC Dev first in order to get to where you can load a recovery program at which point you will have already had to wipe your phone to factory defaults.
It's unfortunate and the main reason I waited so long to unlock this way but as previously stated, Sense 4.1 was too hard to pass on
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I've been waiting for s-off forever, then it finally came but long story short gf saw update (hboot 1.15) and accepted and I'm wondering since there's still no s-off, and this is a very silly question but I've never used Dev unlock, is nandroid backup possible in case something does go wrong
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I am amazed at how many girlfriends have their boyfriend's phone and update things... I'm beginning to think it's the same cover up as when people say, "so I have this friend who... Blah blah blah..."
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PsiPhiDan said:
I am amazed at how many girlfriends have their boyfriend's phone and update things... I'm beginning to think it's the same cover up as when people say, "so I have this friend who... Blah blah blah..."
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no, I let her take my phone for the weekend. she went camping with her her family and I dont feel comfortable knowing shes out in the middle of no where without a phone. her phone was disconnected because she lost her job 2 months ago and Im not about to pay $135 on top of my own bill
PsiPhiDan said:
I am amazed at how many girlfriends have their boyfriend's phone and update things... I'm beginning to think it's the same cover up as when people say, "so I have this friend who... Blah blah blah..."
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Hell, I don't even let my girlfriend use my phone unless she asks nicely and I always keep an eye on her.
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Hell, I don't even let my girlfriend use my phone unless she asks nicely and I always keep an eye on her.
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Mine doesn't even know how to use my phone...it's "confusing". IPhone ftw
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pbarrett said:
Correct me if I'm wrong, but, a ROM includes a Kernel, so when you flash a ROM you're swapping kernels.
The only kernel incompatibility would be if you flashed a ROM then flashed a Kernel, then you have to be careful.
If anybody is absolutely certain that this isn't the case and not just guessing, let me know and I'll stand corrected.
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Yes, every ROM includes a kernel.
But Hboot 1.15 and above do not let you flash things to the boot partition in recovery. The kernel goes in the boot partition. So you can't flash kernels normally through recovery.
If your on a sense ROM and flash an AOSP rom, the phone wont boot
If your on an AOSP ROM and flash a sense ROM, the phone wont boot
If your on an old base and flash a new base, the ROM will have issues (if it even boots)
http://androidforums.com/evo-4g-lte-all-things-root/606748-how-install-kernels-h-boot-1-15-wip.html
PsiPhiDan said:
I am amazed at how many girlfriends have their boyfriend's phone and update things... I'm beginning to think it's the same cover up as when people say, "so I have this friend who... Blah blah blah..."
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Next, we are going to hear crap like, "my pet hamster ate my nandroid thumb drive."
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I have a question.. I am s on hboot 1.15 htc dev unlocked. I want to run meanrom 3.6 but it is based off the new update. I have read you can use fast boot or flash gui to flash the kernel and than flash the Rom after that. Question is.. Is this true for my setup and is there any concern about not having actually updated everything on the update? I read stuff about a Rom or base mismatch issue..Thanks for any help..
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cherylbaker said:
I have a question.. I am s on hboot 1.15 htc dev unlocked. I want to run meanrom 3.6 but it is based off the new update. I have read you can use fast boot or flash gui to flash the kernel and than flash the Rom after that. Question is.. Is this true for my setup and is there any concern about not having actually updated everything on the update? I read stuff about a Rom or base mismatch issue..Thanks for any help..
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You got it...just fastboot flash the boot.img from the ROM, then flash the ROM in recovery and you should be all set. You shouldn't need to install the latest firmware for it to work, but it's probably recommended. That being said, since you're s-on you won't be able to anyway. Should be fine with just the kernel and ROM.
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Thanks
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If you are having issues though before you decide to take that awful journey of relocking unrooting to take that ota stop and think of the consequences and the possibility of never being able to obtain s-off...from what im reading the new base aint that exciting anyways
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time for shameless self promotion, albeit very late. i have written a short guide that explains most of the basics for flash root and recovery and i will probably update it with basic troubleshooting scenarios but then again i may not but its very thorough information
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time for shameless self promotion, albeit very late. i have written a short guide that explains most of the basics for flash root and recovery and i will probably update it with basic troubleshooting scenarios but then again i may not but its very thorough information
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U just want all the credit dont you lol j/p
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U just want all the credit dont you lol j/p
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The new radio kicks but. Solves most or all problems with LTE. The dream of s-off for hboot 1.15 is a fantasy. Even the developer for Meanrom decided it wasn't worth waiting for an s-off that will probably never come and took the latest ota to bring his new phone up to date with the complete firmware package. Mikey was s-off and completely bricked his phone by accidentally putting the old firmware zip on his sdcard and flashed it. His replacement phone came with 1.12 and instead of going with s-off he decided to take the ota and keep it s-on. That way, he will have to flash just like the 1000 other users that use his rom. Yes, I am happy I am s-off, but if you aren't, you might as well get the full use of your phone and take the ota, unlock your phone again, and install MeanRom.
Those people that chime in and say the latest ota isn't worth it sure haven't tried it. This phone is so smooth now it is indescribable. The radios alone are worth it, but HTC did a great job with this update. Sense 4.1 and Android 4.04 are a grat combination.
^
Are you still s-off with all the latest firmware and base Rom?
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Hi guys,
Im sorry if this irritated your eyes.
Im new with android and i got my phone from my friend, a second hand phone.
Can you please let me know about my phone information about my phone ROM, and i read about kernel also hete in forum?
I did attached a screenshot. Thanks in advance.
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Vascoti said:
Hi guys,
Im sorry if this irritated your eyes.
Im new with android and i got my phone from my friend, a second hand phone.
Can you please let me know about my phone information about my phone ROM, and i read about kernel also hete in forum?
I did attached a screenshot. Thanks in advance.
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Seems stock, we need a screenie of the kernel and baseband version to tell you what firmware version you have although it looks like the ics ota.
Boot into bootloader by
1. Pull battery and replace
2. Hold volume down + power until hboot shows up
3. Look at s off/s on status, radio versions and if it says unlocked or tampered at the top.
Tampered means there is a custom recovery installed and probably rooted, this is good if you wanna flash a ROM.
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Hi squirrel!
Thanks for your explanation.
I wil do it now.
Wait me.. (lol..)
Many thanks!
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Hi mate,
Got the ss using wifey's phone camera.
Please let me know. And can i do more with this rom or should i flash it and change it?
Thanks!
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I have another ss from the setting thingy..
Hehe.. Many thanks for explanation.
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Looks like you have the leaked global ics ruu firmware from mid 2012 and a rom based on it. Since you are still s-on, you may find it difficult to revert back to anything older (such as the official ics). The kernel looks to be the one included in the leaked ruu as well.
Hi mate,
Is that mean something? Bad or good maybe?
So the step is make it s-off, flashing the rom, and.... Am i right?
I dont get any trouble with thia phone. I just want to know are there any better setting than i have? If not maybe i'll stick with this one. (for battery and performance maybe)
Looking forward from you all...
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Looks like you have the leaked global ics ruu firmware from mid 2012 and a rom based on it. Since you are still s-on, you may find it difficult to revert back to anything older (such as the official ics). The kernel looks to be the one included in the leaked ruu as well.
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I dont want to revert back to official. I want to move forward as long it will give me a benefit by changing the phone settings/installed i have now.
If you please willing to tell me the step, i'll do the rest myself.. Hehe.
Wich is first? Make it s-off?
Thanks..
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Vascoti said:
I dont want to revert back to official. I want to mobe forwars as long it will give mr a benefit by changing the phone settkng i have now.
If you please willing to tell me the step, i'll do the rest myself.. Hehe.
Wich is first? Make it s-off?
Thanks..
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1. S-off. You may have to relock to perform the s-off. I can't remember. Go do your research before starting.
2. Flash venom Rom. This is an ics Rom with zero bugs.
3. Flash the team bamf kernel (made by same developer) this kernel will increase your battery life by about 50%
Good luck
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Piaband said:
1. S-off. You may have to relock to perform the s-off. I can't remember. Go do your research before starting.
2. Flash venom Rom. This is an ics Rom with zero bugs.
3. Flash the team bamf kernel (made by same developer) this kernel will increase your battery life by about 50%
Good luck
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Oke Piaband..
So the s-off first.
Thanks mate.
Going to start a little adventure here on forum.
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S off might come off as confusing..
It's not necessary some kernels will flash via ph98img (the bootloader will search for this and ask you to install the update)
Joelz (maker of viperrez and bamf kernel) has implemented this in his rom and kernel.
If your s on, normally you would need a computer to flash the boot.img separately via fastboot commands (search more about using adb and fastboot)
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Vascoti said:
Oke Piaband..
So the s-off first.
Thanks mate.
Going to start a little adventure here on forum.
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You don't need to s-off. S-off makes flashing a ROM a little easier by automatically flashing the kernel afterwards, but as was mentioned, these days a lot of ROMs make the kernel file for you and the phone goes to hboot and you just accept the update and it flashes it for you.
s-off makes it easier to brick your phone. So it may be better to stay s-on until you get the hang of the Rezound way of doing things. I'm s-on and on the same global leak and I have no problem with it. The ROM I run, EclipticRez makes a PH98IMG file for the kernel so it's easy peasy.
So you are probably ready to flash a ROM. But I would check what recovery you have on there. Boot into bootloader as you did before then navigate to recovery. The two main ones used for the Rez are Amon Ra and TWRP. Amon Ra is currently at v3.16, I don't know about TWRP but you can find it in the Development section and find out. Then once you know you have the latest recovery you can flash a ROM. There should be instructions in the thread for how to flash the ROM and if you need the kernel separately the dev usually posts it for download, otherwise you have to pull it out of the ROM and flash it using fastboot.
Seems a lot to learn.
But, thank you guys.
I will keep searching the forum to find out more info before i decide to flash.
Thanks for al advices and nice to know you all here.
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You don't need to s-off. S-off makes flashing a ROM a little easier by automatically flashing the kernel afterwards, but as was mentioned, these days a lot of ROMs make the kernel file for you and the phone goes to hboot and you just accept the update and it flashes it for you.
s-off makes it easier to brick your phone. So it may be better to stay s-on until you get the hang of the Rezound way of doing things. I'm s-on and on the same global leak and I have no problem with it. The ROM I run, EclipticRez makes a PH98IMG file for the kernel so it's easy peasy.
So you are probably ready to flash a ROM. But I would check what recovery you have on there. Boot into bootloader as you did before then navigate to recovery. The two main ones used for the Rez are Amon Ra and TWRP. Amon Ra is currently at v3.16, I don't know about TWRP but you can find it in the Development section and find out. Then once you know you have the latest recovery you can flash a ROM. There should be instructions in the thread for how to flash the ROM and if you need the kernel separately the dev usually posts it for download, otherwise you have to pull it out of the ROM and flash it using fastboot.
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Hi feralicious,
Will check it soon.
And can i back to you with questions?
I was a BlackBerry user and ita really easy to Upgrading. Now imma lil bit mad. Haha!
(Was thinking about i installed my o2 stealth years ago and was an easy task by following this forum thread without asking or a single post.
Now droid make it harder to do..)
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Squirrel1620 said:
S off might come off as confusing..
It's not necessary some kernels will flash via ph98img (the bootloader will search for this and ask you to install the update)
Joelz (maker of viperrez and bamf kernel) has implemented this in his rom and kernel.
If your s on, normally you would need a computer to flash the boot.img separately via fastboot commands (search more about using adb and fastboot)
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I got win7 64bit.
Didnt search it yet because lil bit busy moving.
Well, i hope it wont be a problem instaling all driver and other thing to do flash, etc.
Wish me luck..
This is my first droid.. If this running well maybe will flash wifey's samsung g-tab 10.1 LOL....
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feralicious said:
You don't need to s-off. S-off makes flashing a ROM a little easier by automatically flashing the kernel afterwards, but as was mentioned, these days a lot of ROMs make the kernel file for you and the phone goes to hboot and you just accept the update and it flashes it for you.
s-off makes it easier to brick your phone. So it may be better to stay s-on until you get the hang of the Rezound way of doing things. I'm s-on and on the same global leak and I have no problem with it. The ROM I run, EclipticRez makes a PH98IMG file for the kernel so it's easy peasy.
So you are probably ready to flash a ROM. But I would check what recovery you have on there. Boot into bootloader as you did before then navigate to recovery. The two main ones used for the Rez are Amon Ra and TWRP. Amon Ra is currently at v3.16, I don't know about TWRP but you can find it in the Development section and find out. Then once you know you have the latest recovery you can flash a ROM. There should be instructions in the thread for how to flash the ROM and if you need the kernel separately the dev usually posts it for download, otherwise you have to pull it out of the ROM and flash it using fastboot.
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Mate,
It only show me blue texts around.
Wich menu should i execute?
I did a restore menu before it only asking permission to restore without any info what kind of file to restore.
Any other solution how do i find out?
I have a rom toolbox and when i go to rom mamagement and flash recovery, please see attached file. That is all the list i got.
Edit: meh,,, you mention TWRP before.
Yes it is TWRP. So i need to find the latest one on forum and compare it with mines, right?
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Hi guys,
Is this my custom recovery type?
I only seen worldclockmod there..
Please find picture attached.
And can i change it to amon ra?
Or once installed it cant be change anymore? If yes maybe im going to install amon ra because it looks more familiar?
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Vascoti said:
Hi guys,
Is this my custom recovery type?
I only seen worldclockmod there..
Please find picture attached.
And can i change it to amon ra?
Or once installed it cant be change anymore? If yes maybe im going to install amon ra because it looks more familiar?
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Yes that is your recovery. I personally like TeamWins recover because I hate using vol to scroll.
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kaliblazin707 said:
Yes that is your recovery. I personally like TeamWins recover because I hate using vol to scroll.
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You do realize that you can use the 4 buttons at the bottom (Home, menu,...) to scroll and select in Amon Ra, right? Much easier than using the volume and power buttons.
So guys...
Can i change it to amon ra?
I got a little food tutor how to s-off.
But i want to unroot first.
Well, i will be back soon when the phome wont booting. LoL
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Hello everyone!
I recently purchased a Rezound and I want to jump into rooting/modding it. Im coming from the Samsung Fascinate, and that thing was super easy to root. I've searched the forums here but I just couldn't find a root guide. I want to flash Infection rom but I really don't know how to go about it. I don't know what this s-off and s-on business is about and I don't want to do anything to my phone without further research to prevent bricking my device. My software number reads: 3.14.605.13 710RD. I am running stock android 4.0.3. Could anyone please send me in the right direction to go about flashing custom roms on my new device? Thank you!
Unlocking bootloader Guide: http://www.droidforums.net/forum/ht...w-unlock-rezound-s-bootloader-htcdev-com.html
here is the latest Ruu Leak, there is an ota that is newer but the ota "over the air" update caused problems for alot of people. So its useless and just easier to use the latest Ruu and anyone will back me up on that statement: http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/0...ull-ruu-build-4-03-605-2-for-the-htc-rezound/
i recommend TWRP recovery: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1902381
and if you do decide to s-off, READ! ABOUT! IT! and make sure you know what your doing befor you attempt. ill just supply the link for you so you got something to come back to if you decide to do it: http://unlimited.io/juopunutbear.htm
i just supplied the links since its 3am in 10 minutes lol, so if you got any questions or problems just post back. i might be up and other people will help :good:
EDIT: You will need ADB to do all the above listed
bunchies said:
Unlocking bootloader Guide: http://www.droidforums.net/forum/ht...w-unlock-rezound-s-bootloader-htcdev-com.html
here is the latest Ruu Leak, there is an ota that is newer but the ota "over the air" update caused problems for alot of people. So its useless and just easier to use the latest Ruu and anyone will back me up on that statement: http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/0...ull-ruu-build-4-03-605-2-for-the-htc-rezound/
i recommend TWRP recovery: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1902381
and if you do decide to s-off, READ! ABOUT! IT! and make sure you know what your doing befor you attempt. ill just supply the link for you so you got something to come back to if you decide to do it: http://unlimited.io/juopunutbear.htm
i just supplied the links since its 3am in 10 minutes lol, so if you got any questions or problems just post back. i might be up and other people will help :good:
EDIT: You will need ADB to do all the above listed
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Thank you so much! i successfully installed infection rom and am using it with s-on buy flashing the boot.img after flashing the rom. i think i will stay away from s-off for now, but thank you again for your help
I was on the same OTA as you. Unlocked via HTCDev, flashed recovery in fast boot and superuser. From there you can flash ROMs while s-on. I went a step further using the unlimited.io website and got s-off.
If you stay s-on you need to have a computer to flash the boot.IMG from the ROM you want which is the kernel.
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Oh I see. OK I will look into that
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hey again guys, i just have a few questions.
Say if i were to want to flash a newer version of infection rom, would be okay to just wipe cache and dalvik then flash the newer version unless instructed by the dev to wipe everything? Also, since I am currently s-on, will i have to flash the boot.img everytime i flash a new custom rom or update infection rom?
luke949 said:
hey again guys, i just have a few questions.
Say if i were to want to flash a newer version of infection rom, would be okay to just wipe cache and dalvik then flash the newer version unless instructed by the dev to wipe everything? Also, since I am currently s-on, will i have to flash the boot.img everytime i flash a new custom rom or update infection rom?
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I always wipe everything but yea you should be OK. If you change ROMs you have to flash the boot.img. I didn't stay son long so in not sure about updates. Try it if it doesn't boot then you have too.
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I use http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=37061598 its the unofficial port of cm 10.1, stang is awesome enough to build an update every fourth night. So we do flash an update zip on top of our first flash and so on
If its an update to the ROM you should just be able to flash on top of it and wipe cache\dalvik cache. the only time you need a complete full wipe is if the android version changes from 4.2.2 which android version doesn't change often OR if you start having major issues.
As far as flashing the boot.img in bootloader every update. You should ask the dev or an s-on person using the rom. I wouldn't know because I s-off'd my rezound within the first 2hours of having it
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Woo! thanks a lot guys! im loving the rezound so far. great community we got here on this side of the board btw. :good:
Hell yeah. Rezound forums arnt boring like the other ones Lol
Do you want a custom kernel?
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If you stay s-on you need to have a computer to flash the boot.IMG from the ROM you want which is the kernel.
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Actually, it depends on the ROM. I use EclipticRez and Snuzzo and Hawknest have it set up to create a PH98IMG file of the kernel you choose in setup, it puts in in a folder so all you have to do as s-on is navigate to it in recovery and flash. So no need for a computer.
I've had the phone since it came out and I'm still s-on. Doesn't bother me a bit.
I looked into S-off for the Rezound and I found Hasoon2000s all in one tool kit found here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1696394
I also read about how there no more support for windows OS for s-off. I'm not familiar with linux unfortunately (something i have to check off in my bucket list someday). Is there any way to achieve s-off while using windows?
I did the wire trick on windows 7, I search for a guide for you on xda. I'll edit the post if I found something
Edit: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1612035 I found this. Its exactly what you need :thumbup:
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amom
Been a while since I've visted the fourms. Trying to update the rez. Can anyone point me in the right direction for latest amon recovery flash?
SR3TLAW said:
Been a while since I've visted the fourms. Trying to update the rez. Can anyone point me in the right direction for latest amon recovery flash?
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Here you go:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1339679&highlight=amon
v3.16 is what you want. You need to unzip it and flash it in fastboot:
fastboot flash recovery <nameofrecovery>
feralicious said:
Here you go:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1339679&highlight=amon
v3.16 is what you want. You need to unzip it and flash it in fastboot:
fastboot flash recovery <nameofrecovery>
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Thanks.
So im looking for a full featured lightweight rom that has everything working. Neo has, well, a million roms out, needing something lean. Trying to move away from sense or maybe a desensed? Ideas?
SR3TLAW said:
Thanks.
So im looking for a full featured lightweight rom that has everything working. Neo has, well, a million roms out, needing something lean. Trying to move away from sense or maybe a desensed? Ideas?
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You can try EclipticRez, I do believe there's a desensed option when installing but I'm not completely positive. If there is give it a go. It's really smooth and there's good, active support for it.