So we have S-Off now. Therefore, there are no excuses not to be supported in Cyanogen minus the source code and Offical OTA of the ICS update. Am I correct? Miui, Cyanogen, and AOSP/AOKP . I hope the ball starts rolling because I'm estatic!!! Post in and tell me the truth and your opinion.
The ball has been rolling. S-Off has nothing to do with AOSP/AOKP. DMeadows and I'm sure others has been working on a Cyanogenmod port for some time now. Protekk recently joined the quest as well. Read up in the dev section
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So we have S-Off now. Therefore, there are no excuses not to be supported in Cyanogen minus the source code and Offical OTA of the ICS update. Am I correct? Miui, Cyanogen, and AOSP/AOKP . I hope the ball starts rolling because I'm estatic!!! Post in and tell me the truth and your opinion.
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s-off doesn't mean AOSP, MIUI, etc.
As stated about a thousand times before the RIL, which is what is holding us back, is not going to be any easier to get with s-off.
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why do people keep saying that s-off gets us asop? Who started that rumor lol!
S-Off = Hboot fully unlocked.
Aosp/Aokp = RIL source needed, not S-Off.
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why do people keep saying that s-off gets us asop? Who started that rummer lol!
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*Rumor
I thought s-off installed aosp+ and the ril-amajigger.
I kid.
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Where's markus?
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Where's markus?
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He disappeared as soon as the 2 things he was complaining about not having were actually happening,coincidence? I think not
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He disappeared as soon as the 2 things he was complaining about not having were actually happening,coincidence? I think not
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pretty sure he was forced into the rezound witness protection program and is under a new assumed alias, lol
*sigh*
I think my question may have been worded incompletely/wrong. What I'm asking is, since we have S-Off, won't people like cyanogen be MORE likely to support us since you wont have to flash hboots and what have you to change roms and radios and such? I understood the whole RIL problem holding AOSP back a long time ago. I'm talking about "Official" support.
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I think my question may have been worded incompletely/wrong. What I'm asking is, since we have S-Off, won't people like cyanogen be MORE likely to support us since you wont have to flash hboots and what have you to change roms and radios and such? I understood the whole RIL problem holding AOSP back a long time ago. I'm talking about "Official" support.
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Its Def not going to hurt $50 phone and now S-OFF should bring a few developers.
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By the way... please save all the comments trying to make it seem as though I never read this forum. I do. I'm not a developer and I only understand so much of what it means to achieve things. I'm new to HTC. Motorola was much simplier to flash things, so this dev unlock and s-off stuff is all new to me. Do I get it? yes. Has it taken a while? Yes. Do I understand why the RIL is the bottleneck... only that I know whats needed to fix it is in the offical source that we don't currently have so it can have the right files and commands. So seriously, please stop the *sigh*, "We've covered this one thousand million times", "Omg not this again" comments. I'm a mature adult. I'd like to talk to some who are also.
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im sure he made a new account and is still among us
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By the way... please save all the comments trying to make it seem as though I never read this forum. I do. I'm not a developer and I only understand so much of what it means to achieve things. I'm new to HTC. Motorola was much simplier to flash things, so this dev unlock and s-off stuff is all new to me. Do I get it? yes. Has it taken a while? Yes. Do I understand why the RIL is the bottleneck... only that I know whats needed to fix it is in the offical source that we don't currently have so it can have the right files and commands. So seriously, please stop the *sigh*, "We've covered this one thousand million times", "Omg not this again" comments. I'm a mature adult. I'd like to talk to some who are also.
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what do you expect from us when someone with 8 posts, asks a question incorrectly? We can't guess what you intended to say, and we had every right to be annoyed with what you posted as your original post has been asked "about a million times."
I also take personal insult from the fact you are referring to me as immature as you tried to quote me there, when you are the one who can't even articulate a question to ask what you "claim" you intended to say.
Good day!
I don't think the s off is going to bring any devs that wouldn't have taken on the project while it was s on. Most of the devs who walked away from the rezound early on did so because early on the user base was rude, demanding, appreciative, and many were unintelligent and appreciative.
It has improved, there's a lot of really respectful and brilliant rezound users, and there's a lot of great devs among us, but as a whole, maybe due to the marketing of such nice hardware being based on "beats" there's still a lot of drama and unneeded crap being stirred up by a few bad apples.
The aosp ball started rolling last week again with protekk deciding to take on RIL, and others will also contribute to the effort.
S-off is greatly appreciated by me and a huge help to the community as a whole. But it's definitely not what was holding up AOSP in my opinion. I don't know any devs who would be asked to help out on the RIL by a friend of theirs and would say "no way I'm touching that because that phone is s on with an oem unlocked bootloader.
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Not to be pessimistic, but do you mean unappreciative?
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Seems protekk is hard at work for us according to his twitter.
Nosympathy: Please do not take it as a personal insult. I do appreciate all the devs on here and I know that there are surely some who are not mentioned anywhere on the the forum who deserve praise. My problem is that there is no reason to post if all you're going to do is put down the question. If you have a problem answering the question... just don't answer it. A non constructive answer... is no answer at all. I've read thread after thread where unknowing people ask questions about things that only people who read this forum constantly know. Is the information somewhere in the depths of this forum... yeah I'm sure its tucked away somewhere, but you know what? Sometimes its just easier to ask, so please don't take it personal, just let someone else answer if you don't want to answer it. I'm not referring to any particular person. Quite honestly, I'm tired of seeing threads where 3/4 of the posts are this nonsense bashing people about something already posted somewhere else. Isn't that what the moderators are for? Yeah. I'm not gonna sit here and get flamed for an honest question, and getting your panties in a wad because you don't like me quoting you in response to your reply that didn't help anything at all...
I do appreciate ALL whom have made even the slightest contribution to this phone. However, it doesn't make you mightier than God, nor does it give you a right to blow smoke over everyone.
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As title says did i miss something?? Is it all the noob questions? or the constant same question asking or maybe Devs stepping it up a notch in competition between themselves I just remember the old eris days not being like this
Chingys gone
Team Bamfs gone
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idk i came from a htc inspire on att that had any rom u can possibly name to the thunderbolt which is dying slowly
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As title says did i miss something?? Is it all the noob questions? or the constant same question asking or maybe Devs stepping it up a notch in competition between themselves I just remember the old eris days not being like this
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perhaps because a lot of people make threads without doing the proper research??
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perhaps because a lot of people make threads without doing the proper research??
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Like that won't happen when Rootzwiki is bigger?
kriskmk said:
perhaps because a lot of people make threads without doing the proper research??
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Yes this is the reason, devs are starting to resent each other because noobs are doing what they always have. Genius.
Devs love to dev. If they don't do it here, you can find them by doing a little searching. The problem is like any work place, organization, etc.....basically anywhere people are involved with other people everything gets ****ing political.
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idk i came from a htc inspire on att that had any rom u can possibly name to the thunderbolt which is dying slowly
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troll attempt is pathetic...
its great the devs want to leave because they are open to make their own rules. they are mad that admins arent doing their job and getting pissed off and packing their bags. now, they are making their own sites and are going to tear noobs a new one every time something is asked. so therefore, the users are going to leave.
nothing will last without users, these developers do great work but when users leave so do donations and people willing to try their roms out.
Maybe the famous enough that they don't need xda anymore lol, who knows man you will get some either way, developers come and go, life changes all the time, you notice more if your a flashaholic like I used to be I got tired of flashing more then on ROM at day so I enjoy life more and actually use my phone more often pics look great on this phone BTW
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I just realized that this thread is titled, "why IS so many devs." lol good one
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its great the devs want to leave because they are open to make their own rules. they are mad that admins arent doing their job and getting pissed off and packing their bags. now, they are making their own sites and are going to tear noobs a new one every time something is asked. so therefore, the users are going to leave.
nothing will last without users, these developers do great work but when users leave so do donations and people willing to try their roms out.
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You act like the developers need users, when it fact, it's the other way around lol. Developers first and foremost develop for themselves and then later share what they made with the world. No Rom developer is getting rich off this, it's a hobby.
There's a reason you dont see developers asking where the users are, but you see plenty of threads from users asking that question.
Users will go where the developers are or they wont get their work.
Devs are probably sick of all the useless comments people post that are useless. The flaming and so on...
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If developers wish to leave xda wishes them the best of luck, thread closed.
I guess, since the thread in the dev section is closed, we need one here where we can discuss, ask, etc. everything regarding the matter, till they open the other one back... Just saw that they have completed testing on Rezound, Vivid, Raider, Sensation, Amaze of course, and 1 or 2 more devices. This is going to be massive!
Hope after they rocked the forum, they would occasionally give us some updates on their progress, so many people are waiting for this...
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I guess, since the thread in the dev section is closed, we need one here where we can discuss, ask, etc. everything regarding the matter, till they open the other one back... Just saw that they have completed testing on Rezound, Vivid, Raider, Sensation, Amaze of course, and 1 or 2 more devices. This is going to be massive!
Hope after they rocked the forum, they would occasionally give us some updates on their progress, so many people are waiting for this...
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Check the OP of Fuses and Globaltrons thread... That's where ALL updates will be. Really, the only update needed is "hey, s=off script works safely and is now ready for release." They have given several updates for those that want to read the thread. What else do you really want? I mean, it will be released when it's released, and until then, we don't bug the OP about it, we don't post in their thread, and we just wait patiently. Idk why that's so hard for some people. I mean damn, they had to lock the thread. Smh. It sounds like you already know about the updates, since u just posted that they're waiting on just a couple more devices to work...
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No, I posted that testing has finished for all mentioned devices + 1 or 2 more, which names I just didnt recall. Also, this thread is for people who want to comment on s-off and everything about it, dont forget that the original s-off thread was closed because people just couldnt stop posting comments despite globatron's request. Thats the whole point here.
p.s. besides, they have the same thread in Rezound's General Forum because the real one in the dev section is closed as well. i dont see a reason why cant we have one here too... its not about patience, its just a forum, dude
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No, I posted that testing has finished for all mentioned devices + 1 or 2 more, which names I just didnt recall. Also, this thread is for people who want to comment on s-off and everything about it, dont forget that the original s-off thread was closed because people just couldnt stop posting comments despite globatron's request. Thats the whole point here.
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Yeah I posted a thread like this too... It was deleted by the Mods...
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Well, if they have such threads in other forums, we should have one too, otherwise where would we discuss it? in the original s-off thread? well, some people tried and mods got pissed
What is there to discuss? S-Off will be released when they are ready, and even then, it doesn't mean much for people who aren't devs. Am I missing something here?
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What is there to discuss? S-Off will be released when they are ready, and even then, it doesn't mean much for people who aren't devs. Am I missing something here?
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So if you have nothing to discuss don't come here. Other's may wish to chat about it. That's what forums are for. Let those who want to chat about it do so here.
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So if you have nothing to discuss don't come here. Other's may wish to chat about it. That's what forums are for. Let those who want to chat about it do so here.
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+1...So much negativity on these forums
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So if you have nothing to discuss don't come here. Other's may wish to chat about it. That's what forums are for. Let those who want to chat about it do so here.
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Did I say I had nothing to discuss? No one answered me when I asked if I was missing something about S-Off for us non-devs, so is there actually anything to discuss? Am I not letting anyone chat about it in this thread? Last time I checked, I'm not a mod and I didn't lock down this thread.
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Did I say I had nothing to discuss? No one answered me when I asked if I was missing something about S-Off for us non-devs, so is there actually anything to discuss? Am I not letting anyone chat about it in this thread? Last time I checked, I'm not a mod and I didn't lock down this thread.
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Are you serious? Why would I even pay attention to your trolling? Perhaps people in the Rezound forum have nothing to discuss either, they just hit 340+ comments in 5 days, cuz just have some time to waste. If the original s-off thread here was opened, Im sure it wouldve had 10 extra pages after globatron's request, but if its a separate thread then "yeah, what's in there to discuss"? Well, Im not a kindergarten teacher and wont explain the same thing over and over...
Ok children, lets all take a deep breathe
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Great discussion...a discussion about whether or not to have a discussion and how to breathe.
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Great discussion...a discussion about whether or not to have a discussion and how to breathe.
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AKA "pointless *****ing" lol
but yes, s=off will be a good addition for those whom like to make there phone 100% customizable. (boot logos, hboots, radios, etc....)
My question is of a serious nature.Even though Im not exactly new here I am new to the Rezound section.I noticed earlier that a thread I was reading was shut down.It was shutdown mid-read and i have a question about that.
It seems that one person whined about dmeadows asking for donations not for himself but for another awesome developer who has the ability to bring something everybody wants but nobody else has the ability to deliver including the gentleman who got the thread shut down.
Maybe a Mod can help me understand the rules.As long as xda has existed these sorts of "Help a Dev help us" threads have existed and were perfectly ok.See Here:
http://www.google.com/cse?q=bounty+...59-1#gsc.tab=0&gsc.q=bounty thread&gsc.page=1
But one thread gets closed down because someone who is a well known donation hound complains because they arent getting the attention and/or donations.If you are going to apply your gestapo tactic rules to one apply them to all,not just when your buddy complains to you about it in a pm.Im genuinely confused about this.I read and reread the rules and dont understand where it says this is acceptable behavior.
that whole situation reminds me and hopefully reminds the one who's allowed themselves to be intimidated to "practice before you preach"
I'm not really sure whats going on around here recently... people are acting all sorts of edgy in Rezound land. All I can say is - WOW. I'm starting to think humanity is devolving quickly.
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or is the correct word de-evolving??
As I said in another thread:
The donations for Protekk were merely made to purchase him a Rezound, with this Rezound he could work on the RIL. NOT AOSP/AOKP Roms. What he does after is his choice.
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I believe I may have made a mistake myself and posted in the wrong section.Please feel free to move this or even delete it after I get an answer.
I completely agree. all were willing to contribute to a cause. can't get progress going without the device.also just because there's unfinished projects doesn't mean someone deserves to be put on the spot like that.
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I completely agree. all were willing to contribute to a cause. can't get progress going without the device.also just because there's unfinished projects doesn't mean someone deserves to be put on the spot like that.
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Agree wholeheartedly.
the overall point is to be a team and help each other not go after someone which is clearly a rule they broke themselves. breaking one rule to publicly point out another rule which is still questionable broken or not is not why we're here. this behavior needs to stop and we need to be a team if we are going to make goals happen
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the overall point is to be a team and help each other not go after someone which is clearly a rule they broke themselves. breaking one rule to publicly point out another rule which is still questionable broken or not is not why we're here. this behavior needs to stop and we need to be a team if we are going to make goals happen
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You are absolutely right.What I fail to understand is that prior to this incident there was a gazillion and one Bounty threads dating back to the beginnings of Android threads here on XDA and there wasn't any issue with it till someone got jealous.I think it just violates to the core everything Android is supposed to be about when someone gets their panties in a wad over pure jealousy.
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You are absolutely right.What I fail to understand is that prior to this incident there was a gazillion and one Bounty threads dating back to the beginnings of Android threads here on XDA and there wasn't any issue with it till someone got jealous.I think it just violates to the core everything Android is supposed to be about when someone gets their panties in a wad over pure jealousy.
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I'm sure if the bounty was for Cyanogen, this would be a different scenario.
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bob24260 said:
You are absolutely right.What I fail to understand is that prior to this incident there was a gazillion and one Bounty threads dating back to the beginnings of Android threads here on XDA.I think it just violates to the core everything Android is supposed to be about when someone gets their panties in a wad over pure jealousy.
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It does. It was a move that is similar to Apple trying to stomp out competition by patent trolling. And believe me, that particular developer has just lost a lot of respect from the community. I for one have no problems saying publicly that I don't condone that behavior, nor will I support developers who engage in that kind of activity.
I believe the problem was the phone was purchased and the thread wasn't closed. And there were references that people should donate some extra cash to protekk
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I believe the problem was the phone was purchased and the thread wasn't closed. And there were references that people should donate some extra cash to protekk
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ok well this could have been it. but there are other ways to go around this. one is if you just click the report button and tell the mod that he received the phone and that it should be closed.
what they did was go in and flame the $h|T out of Dmeadows, when all they had to do was suggest to him that he needs to contact the mods to close it.
this is why i wont post stuff on xda anymore. it seems like there are more people out to flame then just help. most of the people just jumped on the ban wagon when a dev was involved. all the dev had to do was pm meadows and that would have been it. but he just wanted to post so everyone can see how much of a BA he was. that is not needed at all.
Wow. I just saw the thread with the people involved. Shocked at who it was and what they said.
A simple PM wouldve helped. When you come out your face like that you lose really quick.
Ijs, d helped us get joelz here and joelz work has helped the complainer and others out and im sure prot would done the same . Its messed up really, and i can see what people mean with how the community is going down, especially when the devs are part of it too, smh. Lol crazy.
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ok well this could have been it. but there are other ways to go around this. one is if you just click the report button and tell the mod that he received the phone and that it should be closed.
what they did was go in and flame the $h|T out of Dmeadows, when all they had to do was suggest to him that he needs to contact the mods to close it.
this is why i wont post stuff on xda anymore. it seems like there are more people out to flame then just help. most of the people just jumped on the ban wagon when a dev was involved. all the dev had to do was pm meadows and that would have been it. but he just wanted to post so everyone can see how much of a BA he was. that is not needed at all.
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i really dont know what to do on here but i guess i jumped on the bandwagon and i apologize for that im not to familiar with the rules.i think that scott has lost a lot of respect from the rezound community
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I believe the problem was the phone was purchased and the thread wasn't closed. And there were references that people should donate some extra cash to protekk
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I understand what you're saying there and I partially agree but the part I am most agitated about and have a hard time understanding is the fact that one person is being told they are breaking the rules by asking for something that doesn't yet exist,but that same thing he is getting ripped on for has occurred over and over since Androids beginnings on XDA but it was never made an issue of before and allowed to happen by mods and administration alike.But when one person who out of pure jealousy makes an issue out of it,the rule is then enforced.
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SO glad that people see that a simple PM would have been a better choice. You guys give me hope that XDA can be fixed.
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Flaming doesnt get us anywhere. Plus D was trying to do a good thing for the community. HE got the ball rolling on getting the correct people involved and bringing more options and development to our phones.
I dont want to add anymore and i know im breaking a rule by attacking one individual. This should note be considered a flame, but as an inspiration to RELAX. We are all trying to achieve one goal.
who complained? was it markus?
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SO glad that people see that a simple PM would have been a better choice. You guys give me hope that XDA can be fixed.
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I dont' think XDA is the real problem... its just a few bad attitudes in here. XDA has the largest user base, meaning there's a larger pool of potential trouble-makers. It does surely get annoying from time to time, but if everybody on XDA simply moved to another forum, the same drama would likely just follow the users...
I'm not really sure there is a solution, except for ignoring the trouble makers..
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who complained? was it markus?
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Nah, just check the get protekk a rezound thread and you'll see.
any new of a JB rom for the note?
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any new of a JB rom for the note?
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It will come when it comes.
XDA Rules....
Suzook1 said:
any new of a JB rom for the note?
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#1 - DON'T ASK FOR ETAS!
#2 - DON'T ASK FOR ETAS!
#3 - IF YOU WANT IT SO BADLY - MAKE IT YOURSELF! DON'T EXPECT OTHERS TO HAND YOU A ROM ON A SILVER PLATTER DAYS AFTER THE CODE IS OUT.
(Stepping down from soapbox)
Anymore questions, m8?
When It's Time Comes
I just don't get it why people so much impatient first it ICS now JB then it will be Kiwi..... I guess some people buy smart phone just to Root keep Installing rom rom rom rom and then sell their phone on Ebay or Cragslist buy New phone and the Repeat the whole process again and again lol
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I just don't get it why people so much impatient first it ICS now JB then it will be Kiwi..... I guess some people buy smart phone just to Root keep Installing rom rom rom rom and then sell their phone on Ebay or Cragslist buy New phone and the Repeat the whole process again and again lol
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Honestly I'm loving cm9 battery life is amazing and everything is crazy smooth. I can wait for jb
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The simple fact that flash won't be supported on jb I see no reason to wait or upgrade to it. Ics is perfect enough for me
THE BOSS AKA THE BEAST !
Cyanogen has already stated in his roms thread in the development section that they are actively working on jelly bean for our device. Be patient and flash CM9 and be happy because this **** is butter.
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And CM9 nightly is already smooth like butter.
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I just don't get it why people so much impatient first it ICS now JB then it will be Kiwi.....
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"Key lime pie"
Kiwi isn't dessert food enough to fit the scheme
Pretty sure the Sticky topic that states "Post all JB Info here" will have some information:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1737889
It even states all others will be deleted.
I think we can be a little harsh on people asking an innocent question who don't know all the ins and outs and drama of these boards.
He didn't ask for an ETA, he asked if there was any word.. and he got the answer that told him it's being worked on and several others being borderline rude.
Man.. these boards are a wealth of information but sometimes, I shake my head at how people treat each other.
Just my 2 cents.. worth exactly the price of the brainwave it's imprinted on.. (lol)
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I think we can be a little harsh on people asking an innocent question who don't know all the ins and outs and drama of these boards.
He didn't ask for an ETA, he asked if there was any word.. and he got the answer that told him it's being worked on and severAl others being borderline rude.
Man.. these boards are a wealth of information but sometimes, I shake my head at how people treat each other.
Just my 2 cents.. worth exactly the price of the brainwave it's imprinted on.. (lol)
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True, there is thread on the general section tht has the jb thread, is the only one open since other threads will get deleted there so keep and eye on that and what knoxter said is true since jb is out everyone is already "working on it" as we speak. Cm9 for us seems go be very stable since no known bugs have been posted by the devs but the installing of it is weird since cwm touch can't be used and my experience.with Cm9 was tht as.soon as I installed it my.external.sd card went "missing" meaning the system didn't detect it had to go to stock bc all of mybackup root couldn't b Initialized. The devs said they are working on cm10 for us so we have to wait a bit
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knoxster said:
I think we can be a little harsh on people asking an innocent question who don't know all the ins and outs and drama of these boards.
He didn't ask for an ETA, he asked if there was any word.. and he got the answer that told him it's being worked on and several others being borderline rude.
Man.. these boards are a wealth of information but sometimes, I shake my head at how people treat each other.
Just my 2 cents.. worth exactly the price of the brainwave it's imprinted on.. (lol)
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What he asked is in the realm of an ETA. It's a useless thread. People are harsh because crap like this clutters up the forum for no good reason. Also, it puts pressure on the developers, when we should just leave them develop in peace, as that will allow them to get jb working sooner.
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Guys! Give the guy some slack! You're gonna scare him off. Like alot of us, he's just excited. Be happy he posted cause we all started off asking similar questions about our G1's or Hero's. Chill out on him! And noone is putting pressure on the developers but themselves. They do it cause they wanna not cause theyre being forced to. Half this threat is informative and the other half is DOUCHE! If you dont like that he posted it then send him a link to the OG JB thread. Done.:good:
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Guys! Give the guy some slack! You're gonna scare him off. Like alot of us, he's just excited. Be happy he posted cause we all started off asking similar questions about our G1's or Hero's. Chill out on him! And noone is putting pressure on the developers but themselves. They do it cause they wanna not cause theyre being forced to. Half this threat is informative and the other half is DOUCHE! If you dont like that he posted it then send him a link to the OG JB thread. Done.:good:
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Preach it brotha!
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We're not going to scare him off, he's got nearly 400 posts, I doubt he would leave because somebody told him not to ask for an ETA. And he should probably know that threads like this are useless. People have to learn somehow that threads like this should not be posted, period.
And you can't say people asking for stuff doesn't put pressure on the devs, as we've already had two top notch devs leave xda due to people asking too much of them and posting stupid stuff. If people don't learn the in's and out's of xda, more devs will follow.
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We're not going to scare him off, he's got nearly 400 posts, I doubt he would leave because somebody told him not to ask for an ETA. And he should probably know that threads like this are useless. People have to learn somehow that threads like this should not be posted, period.
And you can't say people asking for stuff doesn't put pressure on the devs, as we've already had two top notch devs leave xda due to people asking too much of them and posting stupid stuff. If people don't learn the in's and out's of xda, more devs will follow.
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Damn! They left? That's messed up. If i were a dev i'd tell people messaging me "either pay me a bill or two or just wait in line like everyone else" haha
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True, there is thread on the general section tht has the jb thread, is the only one open since other threads will get deleted there so keep and eye on that and what knoxter said is true since jb is out everyone is already "working on it" as we speak. Cm9 for us seems go be very stable since no known bugs have been posted by the devs but the installing of it is weird since cwm touch can't be used and my experience.with Cm9 was tht as.soon as I installed it my.external.sd card went "missing" meaning the system didn't detect it had to go to stock bc all of mybackup root couldn't b Initialized. The devs said they are working on cm10 for us so we have to wait a bit
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I use CWM touch to flash each and every nightly...
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I use CWM touch to flash each and every nightly...
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U.got the latest on a zip file?
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I think we can be a little harsh on people asking an innocent question who don't know all the ins and outs and drama of these boards.
He didn't ask for an ETA, he asked if there was any word.. and he got the answer that told him it's being worked on and several others being borderline rude.
Man.. these boards are a wealth of information but sometimes, I shake my head at how people treat each other.
Just my 2 cents.. worth exactly the price of the brainwave it's imprinted on.. (lol)
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Right on!
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A bar of soap in a sock for Private Pile.
dsb9938 does some great work. As a (non-Android) developer myself, I know how frustrating it can be when software issues arise, especially when you have ungrateful users that feel like they are entitled to a piece of software that is developed for free by someone in their spare time that asks for nothing in return. It's disgusting. This is why we can't have nice things.
I hope that dsb9938 decides to come back. We need people like him to help unlock our devices full potential. Screw the whiners. Let them be drown in their own misery.
I agree with you... But this thread is getting locked in 3-2-1 BOOM!
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I was really dissapointed when I see closing threads of DSB. I was using his great kernel. He made so much for us... WTF. I missed a lot. Is there anything we can do to deal somehow the issue with this lurke69 ??
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Melodycd said:
I was really dissapointed when I see closing threads of DSB. I was using his great kernel. He made so much for us... WTF. I missed a lot. Is there anything we can do to deal somehow the issue with this lurke69 ??
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His account us temporarily disabled but he could probably make a new one or something since its not IP banning
Ban him. Pure and simple
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Brilliant guys.. at least get the guys name correct..Lol
If you can't handle the heat get out of the "kitchen".....
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So there is no thread for *****ing so I am making myself one. I absolutely hate to no end that a couple of douchefags can ruin a good thing for everyone. One such big douchebag is that retard Luke666. How can he go in and start *****ing to a good dev like DSB who is doing so much good work for little to nothing or free. I am absolutely pissed of the outcome of the situation but I respect DSB's decision to move away from the jumpsuit and hope one day he can change his mind. I am from the rezound forums which had so much bull**** go on. I wish everyone that wants to run thier mouth would just scream at theirselfs in the mirror or bang their head on a door frame its all just BS but ok then we cant all get what we want. If a mod can close this thread as not to cause I flame war it would be great I just needed to get this off my chest. I hope everyone, well everyone but Luke667 had a Merry Christmas and has a Happy New Year
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And this comment makes you better than Luke 666 or Luke 667 or Luke1333? This is the issue with xda members. If you don't have something good to help the situation out don't say anything. Name calling isn't the answer.
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If you can't handle the heat get out of the "kitchen".....
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This is in no way helpful
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This looks like the Rezound forum all over again. Sigh...
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This looks like the Rezound forum all over again. Sigh...
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kids who read GPL and think they are owed, and DESERVE something. people like DSB do it in his free time, and people expect paid support.
that is what this is.
All i have to say about all of this is. Anyone should be able to say there opinion. That is in a good way. If you are just writing a post to piss someone off i believe that you should be banned from the forums. No ifs, and's, or buts.
It is ridiculous anyone would grip about a mod that clearly starts off with the phrase "I am in no way responsible..." I haven't even switched from the stock rom just because I want things to work. If I was willing to explore and felt like reloading my setup to switch roms, I wouldn't *****. It is to be expected. When a new rom is released, I wait to see what the issues (if any) are before I would attempt a re-flash.
There are good devs on this board but I have seen quite a few of them get chased away by whiners and complainers. Hell, I am still using a rom from Roebeet on my GTab who used to be here but left for the same reason. He actually started his own website to build roms. It is a hobby, not a job. Don't expect stuff and you will not be disappointed.
Just remember, a lot of these whiners are the new generation who will be running this country in a few years and making it suck for all of us.
So I just picked up my replacement DNA last night and it just hit me. How am I going to unlock and root without the unsecured kernel? Or anybody else for that matter. This is bigger than first imagined if only very early adopters have root. Wow this sucks bad.
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While Luke's comments weren't "productive" , they also were not rude or ban worthy. While I enjoy dsb's work, he has a bad attitude in general and I thought it was disrespectful as well as made him look like a giant cry baby for saying he'd never release anything else because Luke asked him to have some accountability for the fact he messed up on his latest kernel, 2.3.1 which was rebooting everybodies phones. Luke may have gone about it the wrong way, but I believe he felt as I did. Felt that dsb was ignoring the fact that there was something seriously wrong with his latest kernel. Dsb had incinuated that it wasn't his kernel that made everbodies phones lock up and reboot, but it was "problems with the phone, even on stock". Nobody minds if you make a mistake and your work directly messes up phones. At least take responsibility and admit you were wrong so you can start working on a fix. Also dsb was frequently rude to commentors who did nothing wrong or acted flip towards them. This behavior is simply unacceptable especially for a recognised developer. Recognized developers represent xda and they should carry themselves with respect for others and themselves while posting on the forums, even if others don't always.
To the OP of this thread. Grow up.
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So I just picked up my replacement DNA last night and it just hit me. How am I going to unlock and root without the unsecured kernel? Or anybody else for that matter. This is bigger than first imagined if only very early adopters have root. Wow this sucks bad.
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You can still do all those things. I followed the cube kernal from day one and to me the luke guy is being made a villian here. don't know him, don't care to know him. but DSB was very sarcastic to him on the forums. that's when they both started talking crap. either way it sucks and hope he decides to return. i used all the kernals he made and ended up sticking with the unsecured. but swipe to unlock was great. unless you've read the entire cube thread don't jump to judge.
Luke *****ed about every build and he kept egging on the dev every chance he could. As noted in another thread about this, Luke was rude to the moderators too so it's not just DSB.
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Luke *****ed about every build and he kept egging on the dev every chance he could. As noted in another thread about this, Luke was rude to the moderators too so it's not just DSB.
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Luke definitely is missing a filter. Again for me this isn't about Luke's actions but Dsb's. Dsb will constantly run into lukes everywhere in life. Not just on the forums. My advice to dsb is to work on his forbearance for others.