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read this: the purpose of this post is to let folks know that if you htcdev unlock with s-off,your device will go back to reading unlocked until you relock it,at wich time it will read relocked,just like before you s-offed.
what does this mean?! if you dont care about getting back to a locked state for warranty purposes,then it doesnt mean anything. if one of the big reasons that you s-offed in the first place was to get back to locked,then,as the title says,dont unlock with htcdev after s-off. you can install recoveries and hboots via hboot in a PH98IMG files,or you can install available patched hboots to enable engineering commands.
i hope this helps clarify it for those who were confused by the title. my intention was not to cause panic,simply to educate folks in what id found,as i know the subject of locked/relocked is very important to some.
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ok,i have been posting in several threads that the unlocking after s-off is no big deal. i still maintain that.
however...
on my other s-off,htcdev devices,reflashing the hboot/running an RUU makes the device locked again. after more discussion with con,i decided i better test if i was gonna keep saying it.
i stand corrected!
i started by flashing back the 2.11.000 hboot and unlocking it. i flashed it again. still unlocked.. hmmm. so i flashed jp patched hboot,now juopunutbear flashed 2.11 back. still unlocked. hmmm.
so i relocked. reflashed 2.11. still relocked. uh oh. flashed the eng hboot. now relocked eng 2.11.20005,lol... relocked engineering hboot. flashed the 2.05.0000 ship hboot. still relocked.
at this point i ran the entire RUU for 2.01.605.11. still relocked
i plan to try flashing the leak ruu,then 2.01.605.11 again,but for now,im tired. 6am comes very shortly.
i should have known this phone would somehow be different
moral of the story is that if you are one of the folks whom care about your hboot saying locked,dont unlock it
sorry for any misconceptions based on my experiences with other devices
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ok,i have been seen posting in several threads that the unlocking after s-off is no big deal. i still maintain that.
however...
on my other s-off,htcdev devices,reflashing the hboot/running an RUU makes the device locked again. after more discussion with con,i decided i better test if i was gonna keep saying it.
i stand corrected!
i started by flashing back the 2.11.000 hboot and unlocking it. i flashed it again. still unlocked.. hmmm. so i flashed jp patched hboot,now juopunutbear flashed 2.11 back. still unlocked. hmmm.
so i relocked. reflashed 2.11. still relocked. uh oh. flashed the eng hboot. now unlocked eng 2.11.20005,lol... unlocked engineering hboot. flashed the 2.05.0000 ship hboot. still relocked.
at this point i ran the entire RUU for 2.01.605.11. still relocked
i plan to try flashing the leak ruu,then 2.01.605.11 again,but for now,im tired. 6am comes very shortly.
i should have known this phone would somehow be different
moral of the story is that if you are one of the folks whom care about your hboot saying locked,dont unlock it
sorry for any misconceptions based on my experiences with other devices
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I am betting you can s-on the phone then re s-off and have it say locked. Or someone could edit an hboot to just say locked.
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nosympathy said:
I am betting you can s-on the phone then re s-off and have it say locked. Or someone could edit an hboot to just say locked.
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im sure it can be edited,im sure thats how we became locked again after s-off. and yeah im certain re-s-off-ing would do it too
i dont personally care,my device has no mfg warranty and its kinda neat to me that it appears to stay unlocked thru up/downgrades,and if i want to run the eng or patched hboots,i still can.
i just wanted to prevent others who do care from becoming entrapped back in the situation because of other advice i may have given. should have tested first,spoke later
When I did my S-OFF I was on 2.11 hboot and the ICS firmware. I flashed the juonoptioeefianwefo hboot and then the ENG hboot and old firmware patch. My end result was it saying "locked" in hboot.
I was rather pissed off since I the reason I flashed the ENG hboot was so that it would say "unlocked" instead of juonoptionaofewhf.
My warranty is voided several times over in other ways* so it doesn't matter much to me and after the huge amount of time getting the darn wire trick to work I was rather proud to have my phone say S-OFF and "unlocked".
*apparently living in a high humidity area is enough to trigger the wetness seals.
jefffeely said:
When I did my S-OFF I was on 2.11 hboot and the ICS firmware. I flashed the juonoptioeefianwefo hboot and then the ENG hboot and old firmware patch. My end result was it saying "locked" in hboot.
I was rather pissed off since I the reason I flashed the ENG hboot was so that it would say "unlocked" instead of juonoptionaofewhf.
My warranty is voided several times over in other ways* so it doesn't matter much to me and after the huge amount of time getting the darn wire trick to work I was rather proud to have my phone say S-OFF and "unlocked".
*apparently living in a high humidity area is enough to trigger the wetness seals.
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Yeah high humidity trips em lol. I had an iPhone 3G back in the day trip both the headphone Jack and charging port water markers on a 70% humidity day.
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The number of things that can happen to invalidate your warranty really is annoying. My cousin has a completely stock Inspire that is stuck on hboot but AT&T won't touch it because it has a small ding in the case from when she dropped it.
After S-OFF (GB stock, amon ra, rooted system), I erroneously thought I needed to unlock. Then I locked the bootloader for any future OTA update and it showed Relocked.
I reinstalled the ENG hboot, but it still shows Relocked.
I asked in the sbear chat room, and the answer was
there is no simple way to get the ENG hboot to change from displaying Relocked to display just plain Locked.
But...It is just cosmetic and doesn't really matter.
Howard
No offense to OP, but can you change the title of this thread? It scared me.
I ran the S-OFF method yesterday in 7 minutes with no issues. I was on the new firmware and BAMF 2.1. I chose to keep the 2.21 HBOOT. I had to unlock via HTC in order to flash recovery after performing the S-OFF method. Some folks are saying that you to do not need to unlock once you have S-OFF. All I can say is that I could not flash recovery without unlocking the phone.
I don't know what any of this means...
I just think this makes it more confusing for people..
Mine said 'Locked' after S-Off so I just unlocked it and everything seemed better..
Irieone said:
No offense to OP, but can you change the title of this thread? It scared me.
I ran the S-OFF method yesterday in 7 minutes with no issues. I was on the new firmware and BAMF 2.1. I chose to keep the 2.21 HBOOT. I had to unlock via HTC in order to flash recovery after performing the S-OFF method. Some folks are saying that you to do not need to unlock once you have S-OFF. All I can say is that I could not flash recovery without unlocking the phone.
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That is because you kept the stock hboot which doesn't allow for fastboot commands without being unlocked. By choosing one of Jp's hboot's or the eng hboot you could have installed recovery without unlocking. I did the same thing. So I went back to s-on and redid the s-off procedure and installed jb's hboot. Now I am s-off and locked again. Whew!
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Irieone said:
No offense to OP, but can you change the title of this thread? It scared me.
I ran the S-OFF method yesterday in 7 minutes with no issues. I was on the new firmware and BAMF 2.1. I chose to keep the 2.21 HBOOT. I had to unlock via HTC in order to flash recovery after performing the S-OFF method. Some folks are saying that you to do not need to unlock once you have S-OFF. All I can say is that I could not flash recovery without unlocking the phone.
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I second this. I had to unlock before I could flash recovery. I don't care that my phone says unlocked, just wanted to point out that for one reason or another some have had to unlock again.
Good usage of Smileys.
I agree with scotty, my hboot says locked and I have s-off so far I have flashed everything except for ruu's. Even recoveries worked.
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I was on the latest firmware and RezROM ICS. Performed S-OFF and never seen an option to install JB-Hboot so I didnt. At that time mine said UNLOCKED/TAMPERED.
Then after a couple of days of reading and trying to decide what to do next I decided to RUU down to the latest official and as soon as that was finished I went back to boot loader and it said LOCKED / S-OFF. I flashed the ENG Hboot with no issues and Now it says LOCKED / VIGOR PVT ENG S-OFF RL.
I also made a backup of RezROM before all this. Restored my backup, flashed the firmware patch, flashed PH that came with RezROM and rebooted and have had no issues at all.
I am not in a 4G area so I might actually have the issue others were having with 4G dropping out. Will have to wait and see.
zone23 said:
I don't know what any of this means...
I just think this makes it more confusing for people..
Mine said 'Locked' after S-Off so I just unlocked it and everything seemed better..
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Ditto
I was/am on the stock GB firmware, completed S-OFF, phone said locked (still on stock GB HBOOT), I unlocked it ... no problems since.
HowardZ said:
After S-OFF (GB stock, amon ra, rooted system), I erroneously thought I needed to unlock. Then I locked the bootloader for any future OTA update and it showed Relocked.
I reinstalled the ENG hboot, but it still shows Relocked.
I asked in the sbear chat room, and the answer was
there is no simple way to get the ENG hboot to change from displaying Relocked to display just plain Locked.
But...It is just cosmetic and doesn't really matter.
Howard
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I saw you sign on. Did they ever answer my question about running the tool multiple times?
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Irieone said:
No offense to OP, but can you change the title of this thread? It scared me.
I ran the S-OFF method yesterday in 7 minutes with no issues. I was on the new firmware and BAMF 2.1. I chose to keep the 2.21 HBOOT. I had to unlock via HTC in order to flash recovery after performing the S-OFF method. Some folks are saying that you to do not need to unlock once you have S-OFF. All I can say is that I could not flash recovery without unlocking the phone.
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No,I won't change the title. To some folks its important to stay locked. I will try and clarify the op later today.
You don't need to unlock to install a recovery. It's easily permanently flashed via a PH98IMG,or fastboot booted via the jpbear patched hboots.
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dmoses1969 said:
I was on the latest firmware and RezROM ICS. Performed S-OFF and never seen an option to install JB-Hboot so I didnt. At that time mine said UNLOCKED/TAMPERED.
Then after a couple of days of reading and trying to decide what to do next I decided to RUU down to the latest official and as soon as that was finished I went back to boot loader and it said LOCKED / S-OFF. I flashed the ENG Hboot with no issues and Now it says LOCKED / VIGOR PVT ENG S-OFF RL.
I also made a backup of RezROM before all this. Restored my backup, flashed the firmware patch, flashed PH that came with RezROM and rebooted and have had no issues at all.
I am not in a 4G area so I might actually have the issue others were having with 4G dropping out. Will have to wait and see.
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I'm in the same situation. There's a thread here on how to fix it but I guarantee your 4G is whacked. I flashed back to a GB stock ROM then flashed an ICS ROM. Seemed to work okay when in my 3G only area but I visited a 4G area yesterday and it was just messed up. I flashed the latest GB RUU and did a reset from the stock hboot, flashed JuopunutBear hboot for GB, then AmonRa 3.15 and CleanROM DE. I'm going back to a 4G area tomorrow so if it doesn't work I'll post in that thread. Could just be me but everything about the phone seems better/cooler/faster after the RUU.
TheEnzyteGuy said:
I agree with scotty, my hboot says locked and I have s-off so far I have flashed everything except for ruu's. Even recoveries worked.
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I've flashed JuopunutBear hboot (GB and ICS), eng hboot, stock hboot, AmonRa, a nandroid, and a few roms after locked/s-off and have had no problem. Just flash eng or juopunutbear hboot before flashing recovery and you're good to go.
Edit: I was on the appropriate firmware when flashing the GB and ICS hboots.
Recovery can still be flashed as a PH file on the regular HBOOT.
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HTC having last laugh?
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I have an Evo 3d with HBOOT 1.5 and S-OFF. I want to get to 1.4 S-OFF but I can't find how I can set S-OFF back to S-ON, so I can proceed with the downgrade instructions located here... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1547695
Search and google are not helping too much as there is too much noise talking about getting to s-off and not trying to get to s-on.
Can you please point me toward a solution to change from HBOOT 1.5 S-OFF to HBOOT 1.5 S-ON?
Thank you.
JDogHerman said:
I have an Evo 3d with HBOOT 1.5 and S-OFF. I want to get to 1.4 S-OFF but I can't find how I can set S-OFF back to S-ON, so I can proceed with the downgrade instructions located here... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1547695
Search and google are not helping too much as there is too much noise talking about getting to s-off and not trying to get to s-on.
Can you please point me toward a solution to change from HBOOT 1.5 S-OFF to HBOOT 1.5 S-ON?
Thank you.
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You can brick your device!
Forgive my ignorance, but if you are s-off, why would you want to do this? I thought 1.5 s-off was just as good as1.4 s-off.
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When set at 1.5 you cant change the splash screen or radio. or other settings.
Also Bricking it is what I need to do to convert it to 1.4 BUT I cant to that until I have S-ON. Correct?
You are s-off so no need to brick, just download this copy it to sd card and flash via bootloader.
Also I could be mistaken, but I believe hboot 1.5 is perfectly ok as long as you are S-off, I am pretty sure you can flash whatever you want.
BTW the download link is taken from OP in this thread, you might want to read through it.
birddog_61 said:
You are s-off so no need to brick, just download this copy it to sd card and flash via bootloader.
Also I could be mistaken, but I believe hboot 1.5 is perfectly ok as long as you are S-off, I am pretty sure you can flash whatever you want.
BTW the download link is taken from OP in this thread, you might want to read through it.
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^Exactly this. If you read the first post of that thread (especially the gigantic red letters and what is under that), it will tell you to NOT brick an S-off phone as it will permanently brick it. You just need to flash the 1.4 bootloader.
birddog_61 said:
You are s-off so no need to brick, just download this copy it to sd card and flash via bootloader.
Also I could be mistaken, but I believe hboot 1.5 is perfectly ok as long as you are S-off, I am pretty sure you can flash whatever you want.
BTW the download link is taken from OP in this thread, you might want to read through it.
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i had the same problem as OP. i think the issue with 1.5 is even though its s-off, the bootloader is still locked and therefore a recovery cant be flashed and root cant be gained.
Ive been looking for the standalone hboot 1.4 ruu so i didnt have to do what op originally suggested
You have all of my thanks
alexjzim said:
i had the same problem as OP. i think the issue with 1.5 is even though its s-off, the bootloader is still locked and therefore a recovery cant be flashed and root cant be gained.
Ive been looking for the standalone hboot 1.4 ruu so i didnt have to do what op originally suggested
You have all of my thanks
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Ya I didn't even think about revolutionary only working with 1.4 or below that must be the problem. You are welcome for the help, I just figured most of this out about a week ago when I had to do the downgrade after unlocking with htc method.
I would fastboot oem lock then do HTC's unlock again.
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kiewee3 said:
I would fastboot oem lock then do HTC's unlock again.
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You have to HTC Unlock the device first, then do the fastboot oem lock (if you don't it will say "Device was already locked!" message)
JDogHerman said:
I have an Evo 3d with HBOOT 1.5 and S-OFF. I want to get to 1.4 S-OFF but I can't find how I can set S-OFF back to S-ON, so I can proceed with the downgrade instructions located here... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1547695
Search and google are not helping too much as there is too much noise talking about getting to s-off and not trying to get to s-on.
Can you please point me toward a solution to change from HBOOT 1.5 S-OFF to HBOOT 1.5 S-ON?
Thank you.
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If you are S-OFF you can flash any bootloader you want...no need to go back to S-on....I found a few bootloader versions on here and flashed them back and forth when trying different roms.....once your S-OFF you should never return...lol
I was thinking of taking it to Sprint for a replacement cuz of 4G not working, but then I thought, WHEN ON EARTH do I use 4G??? LOL It's always off...
I had my HTC amaze unlocked with s-off and a modded hboot I then updated to a new ICS firmware to run ICS however when the firmware flashed to my phone it locked my phone and reset my hboot but still kept s-off. Is there anyway to unlock my phone again? If anyone has any help please let me know I already tried to unlock it through HTdev website and it did not work!!!
If you are s=off, then you don't need to unlock your bootloader. I'm assuming you have eng bootloader, and with that, you don't need to unlock anything.
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pharmhand said:
I had my HTC amaze unlocked with s-off and a modded hboot I then updated to a new ICS firmware to run ICS however when the firmware flashed to my phone it locked my phone and reset my hboot but still kept s-off. Is there anyway to unlock my phone again? If anyone has any help please let me know I already tried to unlock it through HTdev website and it did not work!!!
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HTC dev website is the way i did it, and it worked perfect for me. What method did you use that didn't allow you to unlock your phone?
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If any of you read correctly, he said he unlocked it before, therefore, all he has to do is place the unlock_code file in hasoon's tool's data folder and run the unlock bootloader option, voila he's back to being unlocked, though the relocking sounds kind of odd, but it could probably be due to the hboot he was using, I'm guessing was Juopunutbear's or something.
Dark Nightmare said:
If any of you read correctly, he said he unlocked it before, therefore, all he has to do is place the unlock_code file in hasoon's tool's data folder and run the unlock bootloader option, voila he's back to being unlocked, though the relocking sounds kind of odd, but it could probably be due to the hboot he was using, I'm guessing was Juopunutbear's or something.
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I did read it, the old unlock bin does not work with new ics so he has to redo everything once more....
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Well my old unlock bin worked fine for me re-unlocking on ICS, guess I was lucky, okay cool, my bad.
Yes I had hboot from Juopunutbear when I did the s-off it asked to install his hboot but after I upgraded it changed my hboot back to 1.93.0002 and it is SHIP s-off not eng which I am not totally sure what the difference is but is there a way to change SHIP back to ENG????? I am going to give HTCdev another chance and see what happens... thanks for the input and help
ok so I just tried HTCdev again and it unlocked my phone however it did a hard reset the only thing I have to do now is to have eng s-off instead of ship s-off.
pharmhand said:
ok so I just tried HTCdev again and it unlocked my phone however it did a hard reset the only thing I have to do now is to have eng s-off instead of ship s-off.
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Just flash the eng hboot via bootloader, though you don't need to, unless you plan to do fastboot commands, which the average user doesn't have much need for, hasoon's tool does everything you need, recovery, root, etc, though I do recommend 4EXT recovery, which you can easily install after obtaining root.
I decided to run the 4.03.605.2 RUU before flashing back to Neo's Adrenaline 2.0...running the RUU reflashed a stock recovery and returned the bootloader to Locked, of course, so I went to the HTC Dev site to try to unlock it. I'm sure it's already a known issue but it appears that HTC's bootloader unlock tool is down and has been for some short time with no apparent efforts on their part to fix it.
So, I'm stuck with a locked bootloader until such time as someone can find a way to flash recovery without needing to unlock...
buh, wasn't the whole point of S-OFF so you don't have to use HTC's bootloader unlocker tool?
just s-off.
Yes, but if you flash an RUU that updates HBOOT, it will relock. Doesn't change the S flag, but it does indeed lock. I've had this happen twice.
Managed to find my original unlock_code.bin. Worked perfectly, I'm back in business...
When you unlock your phone, SAVE THE UNLOCK TOKEN!!! It can be used on your device no matter what you do.
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Yes, but if you flash an RUU that updates HBOOT, it will relock. Doesn't change the S flag, but it does indeed lock. I've had this happen twice.
Managed to find my original unlock_code.bin. Worked perfectly, I'm back in business...
When you unlock your phone, SAVE THE UNLOCK TOKEN!!! It can be used on your device no matter what you do.
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I think the point he was trying to make is that if you are s-off, it overides the lock/unlock so you don't have to be unlocked anymore. S-off and locked, you can install whatever you want...
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I think the point he was trying to make is that if you are s-off, it overides the lock/unlock so you don't have to be unlocked anymore. S-off and locked, you can install whatever you want...
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That's what I thought too, but I tried to flash recovery after running the RUU...got the "not allowed" error; unlocked, and had no issue.
To my knowledge, all S-off does is "break" the locks on certain partitions, such as boot, so they can be written from recovery...and allow flashing of radios and HBOOT without a valid signature. Recovery itself is what decides what you can flash in terms of ROMs...the stock recovery won't flash anything but an original signed .zip.
Next time just flash the the jupunto bear hboot it makes everything easier and all you need is the s off to flash it. I do it right after running any ruu
I ran the latest ruu,was s-off,locked bootloader,and flashed the recovery without any problems. You can try to push it through adb if anything
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I keep my phone unlocked all the time.
I can ruu with an unlocked bootloader because I have s-off.
The ruu process always leaves my phone in its unlocked state.
I never bother using jbear hboots, as they don't accomplish anything useful that anyone is likely to use. It gives some additional fastboot commands that nobody is using. If someday I need a jbear hboot command, then I'll flash it. Otherwise it just seems to be extra work, and it appears to have complicated your life.
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jayochs said:
buh, wasn't the whole point of S-OFF so you don't have to use HTC's bootloader unlocker tool?
just s-off.
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No, the instructions at hbear's website list being htcdev unlocked as a prerequisite along with being stock and rooted, before even attempting the s-off procedure. Soff is something in addition to unlocked.
The jbear hboot acts like it is unlocked, whether the phone is locked or unlocked. Supposedly this will fool Verizon that your returned borked phone was not tampered with - well until Verizon notices jbear written on your hboot screen.
However, running a ruu will install a stock hboot.
Personally I think jbear hboots are a waste of effort. They are not going to fool anyone at Verizon because jbear is displayed on the hboot screen.
If somehow you go back to s-on with the jbear hboot still installed, then you are,oops, permanently bricked.
The additional fastboot commands one gets with the jbear hboot are not being used, not even by developers during their Rom installation procedures.
After every ruu, you need to repeat the htcdev unlock, and reflash the jbear hboot. This is extra work.
Everytime one flashes an hboot he is taking a bricking risk. if the flashing fails for any reason, like you pulled out the battery or battery runs out of power, or your file got corrupted, then you have an unrecoverable brick. That's why OTAs refuse to install on a low battery charge.
S-off + htcdev Unlocked are wonderful, but I think the concept of modified hboots should be reconsidered.
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Howard
HowardZ said:
I keep my phone unlocked all the time.
I can ruu with an unlocked bootloader because I have s-off.
The ruu process always leaves my phone in its unlocked state.
I never bother using jbear hboots, as they don't accomplish anything useful that anyone is likely to use. It gives some additional fastboot commands that nobody is using. If someday I need a jbear hboot command, then I'll flash it. Otherwise it just seems to be extra work, and it appears to have complicated your life.
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No, the instructions at hbear's website list being htcdev unlocked as a prerequisite along with being stock and rooted, before even attempting the s-off procedure. Soff is something in addition to unlocked.
The jbear hboot acts like it is unlocked, whether the phone is locked or unlocked. Supposedly this will fool Verizon that your returned borked phone was not tampered with - well until Verizon notices jbear written on your hboot screen.
However, running a ruu will install a stock hboot.
Personally I think jbear hboots are a waste of effort. They are not going to fool anyone at Verizon because jbear is displayed on the hboot screen.
If somehow you go back to s-on with the jbear hboot still installed, then you are,oops, permanently bricked.
The additional fastboot commands one gets with the jbear hboot are not being used, not even by developers during their Rom installation procedures.
After every ruu, you need to repeat the htcdev unlock, and reflash the jbear hboot. This is extra work.
Everytime one flashes an hboot he is taking a bricking risk. if the flashing fails for any reason, like you pulled out the battery or battery runs out of power, or your file got corrupted, then you have an unrecoverable brick. That's why OTAs refuse to install on a low battery charge.
S-off + htcdev Unlocked are wonderful, but I think the concept of modified hboots should be reconsidered.
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Howard
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You are wrong in so many ways Howard.please everyone font bother reading this post.
Ok jbear hboot is not meant to fool Verizon. It's meant to provide fastboot commands even while the bootloader is locked.
As for op,I can confirm after running the ruu,you will still have to unlock to flash your recovery, if you still have your unlock code file you can unlock with that just like you did the first time .
Oh and the HTC website always does that just keep trying like every hour or so, if you can't find that unlock file they e mailed you
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I am s-off and locked. And have been able to flash everything under the sun with no problems
The jb hboots are used not to fool Verizon, but to allow people to use fastboot commands like, "fastboot flash recovery (filename.img)" after s-off.
If you are s-off with stock hboot you can't run those commands.
Like Howard said, if you are on the jb hboot and you run the s-on command...then you're bricked. So those people with jb hboots are told to run a RUU first. Like Howard says, there are some risks to flashing things...its also risky to put your phone in your shirt pocket when you are around water.
Now, you can unlock your device after s-off (like Howard did) and use those commands with the stock hboot. However, if you want to return it to Verizon and you lock it, then it will read 'relocked' (i believe). I think that is the ONLY disadvantage of unlocking after s-off.
All this 'stuff' is in these threads. Some of it is personal preference and we all have a reason why our phones are configured certain ways. Just be aware of the implications.
There's no extra work on flashing jbear hboot. Right after the ruu rename the jhboot.zip to ph98img boot on hboot, flash and done. It seems you don't have a lot of knowledge when it comes into hboot stuffs.(no offense intended) And like the others guys said jbear is not to fool anyone and beside the jbear is an unlocked hboot.
socal87 said:
So, I'm stuck with a locked bootloader until such time as someone can find a way to flash recovery without needing to unlock...
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There is a flashable amon ra you can use. You don't need to unlock. You also will need to flash supersu again too because you lost root after the ruu. If you want to stay on a stock hboot, then you run things as ph98 files.
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dassh said:
There is a flashable amon ra you can use. You don't need to unlock. You also will need to flash supersu again too because you lost root after the ruu. If you want to stay on a stock hboot, then you run things as ph98 files.
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But he does need to be s-off...and I think he said he wasn't.
topgun1953 said:
The jb hboots are used not to fool Verizon, but to allow people to use fastboot commands like, "fastboot flash recovery (filename.img)" after s-off.
If you are s-off with stock hboot you can't run those commands.
Like Howard said, if you are on the jb hboot and you run the s-on command...then you're bricked. So those people with jb hboots are told to run a RUU first. Like Howard says, there are some risks to flashing things...its also risky to put your phone in your shirt pocket when you are around water.
Now, you can unlock your device after s-off (like Howard did) and use those commands with the stock hboot. However, if you want to return it to Verizon and you lock it, then it will read 'relocked' (i believe). I think that is the ONLY disadvantage of unlocking after s-off.
All this 'stuff' is in these threads. Some of it is personal preference and we all have a reason why our phones are configured certain ways. Just be aware of the implications.
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with s-off and unlocked and stock hboot
one can
fastboot boot recoveryImageFile.IMG
fastboot flash recovery recoveryImageFile.IMG
fastboot flash boot kernelImageFile.IMG
I have done these, and they work.
It makes one wonder who really needs jbear hboots.
p.s. if someday I brick my phone, I don't plan to return to a Verizon store and lie to them.
HowardZ said:
with s-off and unlocked and stock hboot
one can
fastboot boot recoveryImageFile.IMG
fastboot flash recovery recoveryImageFile.IMG
fastboot flash boot kernelImageFile.IMG
I have done these, and they work.
It makes one wonder who really needs jbear hboots.
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Yes you can flash those things. I guess that's what I was saying.
The "reason" that I know of to use jb hboots is if you ever want to return or sell your phone in a 'locked' state, you can. If you s-off, unlock, and then relock, I think it says "relocked" on the hboot screen.
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Yes you can flash those things. I guess that's what I was saying.
The "reason" that I know of to use jb hboots is if you ever want to return or sell your phone in a 'locked' state, you can. If you s-off, unlock, and then relock, I think it says "relocked" on the hboot screen.
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ok, I suppose if you flash a stock hboot, then the hboot screen will show locked without displaying jbear.
But if Verizon sees jbear on your screen, they'll know you've done a whole lot more tampering than simply htcdev unlock.
Perhaps Verizon will be stupid enough to see unlocked and ignore the lines which say soff and jbear?
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ok, I suppose if you flash a stock hboot, then the hboot screen will show locked without displaying jbear.
But if Verizon sees jbear on your screen, they'll know you've done a whole lot more tampering than simply htcdev unlock.
Perhaps Verizon will be stupid enough to see unlocked and ignore the lines which say soff and jbear?
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I don't think verizon cares. IMHO
In my case, I'm locked, s-off, stock hboot. I can get what I want in ph98img.zip files so I don't use fastboot. I can write the s-on flag, and flash the lastest ota and my phone will be like stock, out of the box....good for some, doesn't really matter to me.
HowardZ said:
ok, I suppose if you flash a stock hboot, then the hboot screen will show locked without displaying jbear.
But if Verizon sees jbear on your screen, they'll know you've done a whole lot more tampering than simply htcdev unlock.
Perhaps Verizon will be stupid enough to see unlocked and ignore the lines which say soff and jbear?
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Verizon don't care about s-off because there's some rezound that came out s-off out of the box.
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But he does need to be s-off...and I think he said he wasn't.
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Yes, absolutely needs to be s-off for what i was suggesting. I may have mis-understood the op and subsequent posts. If the op doesn't want to s-off then unlock is a necessity but if s-offed, then the op has a choice to unlock or stay locked.
I chose to stay locked, like Topgun says, it's easier. The only difference is i did install a jbear hboot, but again that was because i think it's easier to use fastboot sometimes instead of trying to repackage something as a ph98.
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HowardZ said:
p.s. if someday I brick my phone, I don't plan to return to a Verizon store and lie to them.
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If you brick, you couldn't change your hboot anyway. Using a jbear hboot is not to be deceptive.
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Hi guys,
I have my HTC rezound S-Off and rooted. Yes, I did the wire trick and if I go to the HBOOT it says S-OFF.
I am giving up my rezound and the person that wants it want a stock ROM back.
If I am not mistaken, once you are S-Off, you can just put the stock RUU into the SD card and rename to PH98IMG.zip and reboot into the bootloader, and that should do the trick correct?
Or do I need to lock hboot first and do the whole process again?
Thanks a lot in advance,
Just like you said run a Ruu and youll be good to go... Just remember to save back up anything you want saved.
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Thanks much for confirming this!!!
I have the same question as the OP, but am rooted and S-ON. What's the procedure for getting back to stock, without the "Tampered" warning on my fastboot screen? I guess I need to do the S-Off trick, then flash a RUU?
Thank you in advance to whoever helps me.
CharFalco said:
I have the same question as the OP, but am rooted and S-ON. What's the procedure for getting back to stock, without the "Tampered" warning on my fastboot screen? I guess I need to do the S-Off trick, then flash a RUU?
Thank you in advance to whoever helps me.
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You can run the RUU without going s-off and the "tampered" will go away but it will say "Relocked". Tampered is there when you have a custom recovery.
You can s-off and then run an RUU, I'm not sure what it will say then, I think it will still say s-off. If you want it to say s-on there is a procedure to s-on again but you have to be careful so you don't brick. I don't know if it will then look like factory stock or not as far as the locked/relocked thing.
What are you trying to accomplish and why? That will help someone to point you in the right direction.