Okay so somebody I know had the most dumbest idea ever and thought if he spliced the charger wire and connected it to the car battery thinking that it wouldn't hurt his phone. The phone instantly turned off and rebooted and dropped 30% in battery charge. He restarted it and turned back on with 30% more charge. He was able to use a friends charger to try to charge it again, but phone would not charge anymore. Once the phone died, the phone was done and wouldn't come on. He figured he fried the battery so he bought a new one. The new and charged battery worked until it died. Once it died he yet again still can't charge.
So I am trying to help him out and take it apart to see if I can see anything. I am a computer electronic engineer, so I know what I need to know. But since I don't work with phones I don't know a whole lot about them. So what do you guys think could of happened? I kinda figured a resistor that connects to the battery has blown maybe. But I want some advice on what to look at inside the phone. I don't know where the electrical current flows first inside the phone.
Phone works fine with no problem but just will not charge. Any of you guys have an idea?
I guess Samsung didn't think they needed to put in a "do not attach to car battery" disclaimer...
Why did he want to use the car battery in the first place?
P. S. Sorry I don't have any insights.
Or a car battery with a red circle with a line through it saying don't do this.
I am betting that you are correct though in that he probably blew *ahem* melted a resistor. You can probably get the mother board specs on-line somewhere, as this is an older phone so proprietary rules might still be in effect but I doubt it by now.
Worse comes to worse, just email Samsung and see if they have any info. At least they will get a chuckle and you'll be famous bc they will forward the email all around the company.
I'm sorry to say...but this post made my day xD
I literally LOLed xD
Ya i couldn't stop laughing. made my day too. but he connect it to the car because his electricity was turned off in his house.. lmao i guess he had an important phone call to make. but alright thanks guys
Did a standard car charger not occur to this friend?
This is too funny.
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Did you check with a usb cable if the phone is detected ? If it work then usb port is ok and look inside for more damage if not then usb port is fried and wont ever be able to charge until its changed.
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Ok, so at 1am I plugged my phone it ... I verified the other end was connected to the wall (it was glowing blue) ... so I go to sleep thinking "it'll be fully charged when I wake up, oh boy oh boy!"
I wake up, and check my phone - it's warm as if it's been charging. But there's only 10% battery life left ... I was like "WHAT THE HECK?!"
This never happened to me with the Treo 650, 700wx / p, Pro, or HTC P3050, P4000, P3540 ... so is it just this battery, or just this phone?
I COULD take the phone in, but I don't want to because I'll get a refurb unit - even though I just spent $700 on this one this month - so I don't want to do that. Ideas folks?
P.S. I'm using stock Telus 6.1 ROM
Same here man, and it freezes when its done charging, or the charging light [the ring light] keeps going on even when its 100%? any help would be greatful ;(
also keyboard keeps freezing lol..
Since I hadn't had a response from anyone here, I went to Telus wh ile I was in the mall ... they say it's probably a charger issue, and not a phone / battery issue ... They will exchange, free of charge, my battery OR charger, but if I want to swap a unit, it'll be a refurb ... I told them "I just spent $700 on this phone, I WILL NOT take a refurb."
Ah well I'll take the charger tomorrow.
The world is out to get my TP!
eh? I went to sprint and they said i should leave the phone and they can check whats wrong with it.. but i cant if its OEM, and since its OEM we all cant have the same problem? sorry i researched and everyone says different things. Some say to much flashing to you got a defective devise or you need to update your radio or something something i duno i quit!
I posted a similar issue (have a sprint touchpro) about the activesync just dropping or the phone just disconnecting from the computer while charging on the USB charging cable, they claim "we've never heard of this issue". I wonder if this isn't exactly like the Mogul that had bad pins in the USB port that would disconnect that device while connected.
So far, haven't been able to find a satisfactory answer.
I had the same issue
When I received my first TP in February, I experienced this 3 times. I took it back into Sprint and they sent me a new in-the-box replacement. I kept all the accessories and just sent back the mobile itself (as I was instructed). Consequently, I've been using the OLD charger (never unwrapped the new one) for almost 4 months without experiencing the same issue. So, I'd have to say it was the handset. Also, once I noticed the charger cable fell out of the phone very easily after experiencing the heating-but-not-charging issue, so perhaps it has something to do with the fit of the male/female mini-usb.
Sorry if this has been already posted but I kinda need to express my anger. lol
So my rooted Rezound's battery (running CleanROM 2.3) died today while i was working. So being the dude I am I put it on the charger. It's been on a charger for the past 30ish minutes and it still wont turn on or give me any type of led indicator telling me that the phone is being charged.
Before you say "try a different charger or cable" I have, multiple times.
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Advise?
The phone won't charge a that's completely dead right away. Leave it plugged in longer.
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Sorry if this has been already posted but I kinda need to express my anger. lol
So my rooted Rezound's battery (running CleanROM 2.3) died today while i was working. So being the dude I am I put it on the charger. It's been on a charger for the past 30ish minutes and it still wont turn on or give me any type of led indicator telling me that the phone is being charged.
Before you say "try a different charger or cable" I have, multiple times.
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There are many threads on this already...
The rezound, mostly ones with a 3.8v battery not the 3.7v batteries cannot charge a dead battery.
Check some of the other threads as there were a bunch of different little tricks people tried. I just don't remember them all.
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well the odd thing is i have a 3.7V battery. Its been on a working charger now for over an hour and still nothing.
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well the odd thing is i have a 3.7V battery. Its been on a working charger now for over an hour and still nothing.
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Sorry to hear about the battery issues. I've heard of alot of people complaining of the same problem. Most just went to Verizon and had them replace the battery but having a phone that dies and won't recharge would be my biggest worry (why is HTC letting these kind of issues happen?).
Some said they fixed the issue by throwing the dead battery in a Thunderbolt for a bit to charge it up. So if you cant find a fix, either have them replace the battery, or take it in the store and ask them to put it in a thunderbolt for like 20 minutes while you wait?
Sorry that I couldn't come up with a better fix for you. I wish you luck.
Honestly I'd take it back to Verizon and get them to replace/fix it.
I just read another post with a possibly fix. I will not be held responsible if it doesnt work or messes something up
Unplug charger
remove battery
plug charger in
insert battery (while charger is plugged in)
except i hit the power with no battery in it idk if it makes a difference but yeah..
^^^ worked for me
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I just read another post with a possibly fix. I will not be held responsible if it doesnt work or messes something up
Unplug charger
remove battery
plug charger in
insert battery (while charger is plugged in)
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I wish I saw this before I paid $14 for the overnight shipment of my replacement.
Mine froze and died while playing a game, then would not charge or turn on at all. In fact, my extended battery was in when it died, and it wouldn't turn on with the standard battery either. When I got my replacement, I tried both and only the extended worked, so I had to go to VZ to get a replacement standard battery. My phone must've used some sort of battery ESP to kill the standard when it died.
Quick side rant and warning: 1. WhyTF am I paying for overnight shipping on a like-new replacement model of a $300 phone that died during normal use? Horse dookie.
2. If you do need a replacement, dont activate a 3g phone during the down time...it kills the SIM card and they dont send another one!
I think I can help
plug your phone into the charger and take off the back cover. Now with the phone plug in take the battery out and put it back in and leace the back cover off now you should see the orange light on the front come on. If this works hit the thanks button.
try the fix listed above and if that doesnt work a verizon store should be able to help you test your battery/phone and order you a replacement under warranty if neccessary
Me personally would wip out some split cables and force that **** on lol but yea batteries can be charged as long as some form of reasonable electricity touch the correct pins....
I had this happen once, my son ran it dead playing games. I think it must have over heated. I was using the extended battery and was able to put the regular battery in and it worked. I did give it a half hour to cool down first...
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Well kinda...
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When my phone is plugged into the wall there is no charging light or anything. No white light in any senario. Last night my default battery was at about 9% so I pulled it and used my 2nd battery. No problem. Then I went home, charged the second in the phone went to put the first battery in and nothing. No matter what I do the 1st battery is completely unresponsive. I then go to put the fully charged second battery in the phone AND STILL NOTHING! Left the phone on the charger with battery 1 over night. Neither battery is working again this morning.
Both batteries should be able to boot the phone but I got nothing. Any ideas?
I was about to try the USB cable trick to prime a dead battery, but why? I have a full second battery that still isn't working
GRRRR
Are the battery contacts on the phone clean and in good condition? Could try cleaning the connector with rubbing alcohol. I really don't know what to suggest besides that. Figured I'd reply since this thread as almost 200 views but still no replies.
Hope you can get this figured out but it seems asking a question is kind of pointless now. Unless you are complaining about no ICS you won't get much of a response anymore it appears.
Does it charge if it pluged in to a computer?
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Well some how I had it working for the last month but its back to this again.
Last time it just started working randomly. this time, no dice. I even tried the USB splice charge thing and its not working.
I only get a white light on my photon when plugged into my computer. Nothing from the wall, and there is no way to turn it on. I'm outside of the warranty and sprint didn't have anything to help me at their store.
its been like this for two days. I'm really frustrated.
The only thing I can suggest is to find an external battery charger, and give that a shot.
This works for me.
Strip open the usb cable on your micro usb cable. Connect the positive (red) usb wire to the data neg. (white) wire.
This will be a charge only cable.
This also allows bootstrap from computer usb port.
(on my Photon)
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well, took it to a repair shop and they fully recharged my battery with an external charger... and...
STILL NOTHING.
no lights, no response, no boot, nothing. Its totally dead.
Any ideas? I mean, this thing Is beyond bricked apparently. It wont even start!?!
well.. anyone know of a decent source to get off contract phones? I'm looking for something like a Samsung nexus s 4g for like $100 or so?
Craigslist, or maybe Swappa
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Thanks for all the help guys, I did find a Sprint Samsung nexus S 4g off amazon for about $120. Everything seems to be working alright, sold my photon back for a measly $63 to sprint...
That said, the past few days with the nexus having android 4.1 have been great. It really makes me wish that motorola wouldn't have screwed us all over. The stability and speed of stock 4.1 on a single core SOC makes me pretty sad we couldn't have this on the photon, it would have been a beast. A few other things I enjoy more are the non-pentile screen (the AMOLED looks fantastically warmer and more saturated than my gfs bionic- the same screen as the photon) and build quality (yeah, its a plastic-y samsung and I like the build quality, that says something about the poor photon IMO) I would also recommend you put NFC on your future phones "wish-list" as well, I think it'll come in handy and I've already used it at my local walgreens.
Goodbye forever moto. I'll enjoy watching your company be liquidated at the hands of google.
rbeavers said:
This works for me.
Strip open the usb cable on your micro usb cable. Connect the positive (red) usb wire to the data neg. (white) wire.
This will be a charge only cable.
This also allows bootstrap from computer usb port.
(on my Photon)
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Oh yes, I had to do that recently when my MoPho wouldn't survive long enough to boot up. Of course the wife thought I was a little crazy scavenging for a USB cable no longer needed and cutting it up, but a good feeling when she looks at me thinking "wow."
Well guys Im going to be as quick as I can.. as the title says..I got all those problems
How everything started.. Well one day as usual I went to sleep and connected my phone to the charger.. As I woke up I realised my screen phone was on which was weird cause the first I thought was some freak called me .. well I was wrong.. my cellphone was "plugging-unplugging" to the charger.. And the battery life was at 75%~.. Okay I said damn Ima fix this as I come home today.. all day went thru, MY CELLPHONE EARLY DIED (Battery got 0% in less than 4hrs) And well the first thing I thought was buying a new battery.. sadly in my country is hard to get something "Original" if that can be called.. so I bought a OEM one.. well I put it on the phone.. went to my home and when I get to charge the phone.. IT SHUT DOWN WHEN YOU PLUG IT WITH THE OEM BATTERY well I was really concern about that.. So I said hey lets give a try shutting it down and connecting it while it's off.. WELL something weird happens too.. It shows the icon of the battery trying to load the status (The circle) but it shows up- dissapear-shows up- dissapear all the time.. Well.. I guess my luck was too bad.. During the week I was dealing with those charging problems like really much all the night thinking about the phone, checking if it was connected, doing everything as possible to get 100% thru unplugs and not charging.. Well I decided to send it to a Technical Service.. BUT I didnt told him to check the phone(I was running low on money) just told him to change the USB PORT.. well everything seemed fine when he delivered it to me.. as I came home and plug the phone, everything runs cool.. TILL it gets 90%.. It just disconnected by itself, didn't charge anymore.. connected it again and did some charge to 93% DISCONNECTED AGAIN, and then when I plugged in the charger it didn't make the sound of charging.. I had to play with the "Hole" trying to make it charge..Now it isnt even moving on from 93% and it doesnt fully charge.. I MUST ADD I was running on 2.3 Gingerbread when I got my phone, after 2 months I updated it to 4.0.3 ICS And THIS WAS WHEN THE PROBLEM APPEAR.. And I thought it could be a Software problem so I updated it to 4.1.2 JB from Shostock3 and well.. Here I am with a new battery not charging, my battery dying so quick and a lot of money wasted.. Thanks in advance for some help (MY LAST IDEA IS Downgrading the Software. But u guys could give me some ideas) TY!
So don't mess with the software just yet ...
So when you say play with the "hole" does it mean the phone's connections port is damaged? because if it is damaged and it cannot hook up firmly then all bets are off.
But if that is not the case, I would try a different charger.
Try hooking up your phone to your computer, and see if your computer's USB will fully charge the phone. Just leave it and see what happens. If it did, then you got a bad charger, and need to get a new charger.
If I'm not mistaking those chargers have 5 volt ~0.7-1.0Amp output requirements so read about them and be mindful of the output requirements.
Good luck,
Hey guys, it's been awhile since I asked a question, but here I am, lol.
In a nutshell, I'm pretty sure something in my device (hardware) is fried, but I thought I'd see if anyone knows better.
The problem is my device seems to be sending power out of the usb port, and doesn't connect to the pc or recognize it is charging correctly.
This also applies to download mode (windows says device has malfunctioned) and when powered off (there is no battery that shows up when plugged in). In order to power back on after turning it off, I have to remove the battery, then reinsert it while holding down the power. I can't think of much that could have caused this, other than I was visiting places with high humidity levels. One unusual thing that happened before this started was my device rebooted into safe mode when playing bad piggies. That was really weird since I have tried booting into safe mode before, but thought samsung must have disabled it for some reason. I have already tried wiping data and flashing a new kernel/rom. Obviously I can't re-partition since I can't connect to my computer in download mode. What do you guys think? I think it is time for a new device.
EDIT: I should mention that it started behaving normally yesterday for about 5 minutes, but then it went back to this.
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In a nutshell, I'm pretty sure something in my device (hardware) is fried, but I thought I'd see if anyone knows better.
The problem is my device seems to be sending power out of the usb port...
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I'm 99.9% sure that under normal conditions that an Android device should never power the USB port. Source of speculation. If it is indeed powering the USB, then you've either got a really wonky firmware installed, or some sort of hardware issue. I'd try to make sure that it's sending power out before going further (especially if you can't charge it, the battery will be dead soon). After this test, I'd keep the battery out for a while, just to be sure it's not going to short anything.
One thing I've noticed in my tinkering is that taking a device apart, then putting it back together again can mysteriously fix problems (although 75% of the time the fix is temporary). If you suspect water damage, opening it up and letting it air out might help. I want to say there are certain cleaners that are great for cleaning up any water spots that might be shorting things out, but I've never had to try myself.
That's all I can think of right off. Good luck.
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I'm 99.9% sure that under normal conditions that an Android device should never power the USB port. Source of speculation. If it is indeed powering the USB, then you've either got a really wonky firmware installed, or some sort of hardware issue. I'd try to make sure that it's sending power out before going further (especially if you can't charge it, the battery will be dead soon). After this test, I'd keep the battery out for a while, just to be sure it's not going to short anything.
One thing I've noticed in my tinkering is that taking a device apart, then putting it back together again can mysteriously fix problems (although 75% of the time the fix is temporary). If you suspect water damage, opening it up and letting it air out might help. I want to say there are certain cleaners that are great for cleaning up any water spots that might be shorting things out, but I've never had to try myself.
That's all I can think of right off. Good luck.
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Yeah, I'm working on taking it apart right now. With my limited experience on electronics, I would be willing to bet it's a capacitor that's gone bad somewhere. That wouldn't be a problem on a desktop since I could just solder a new one in, but I don't think I have the skill to do something in such a small scale, not to mention I don't think you can even buy them that small.
The same thing happened to me, and I had to send it in for repair. Luckily, I was still in warranty. Also, are you sure it's not the charger cord?
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The same thing happened to me, and I had to send it in for repair. Luckily, I was still in warranty. Also, are you sure it's not the charger cord?
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I've tried multiple cables, and I'm unfortunately out of warranty.
Upon disassembling and cleaning with rubbing alcohol, it seemed to be working properly, with the exception of computer connection. However, I plugged it into a DC car charger (leaving the charger itself unplugged from an outlet), and the light came on again (which is what I was talking about when I said it was sending power out), and now it is acting weird again. I guess I'll take it apart and clean it again...
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I've tried multiple cables, and I'm unfortunately out of warranty.
Upon disassembling and cleaning with rubbing alcohol, it seemed to be working properly, with the exception of computer connection. However, I plugged it into a DC car charger (leaving the charger itself unplugged from an outlet), and the light came on again (which is what I was talking about when I said it was sending power out), and now it is acting weird again. I guess I'll take it apart and clean it again...
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honestly, i cannot begin to fathom what could be causing this. it seems to me samsing paid more attention to the charging port then say amazon did on the first gen kindle.
i do however, wish you the best of luck and hope you somehow manage to fix it
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I've tried multiple cables, and I'm unfortunately out of warranty.
Upon disassembling and cleaning with rubbing alcohol, it seemed to be working properly, with the exception of computer connection. However, I plugged it into a DC car charger (leaving the charger itself unplugged from an outlet), and the light came on again (which is what I was talking about when I said it was sending power out), and now it is acting weird again. I guess I'll take it apart and clean it again...
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See! Told you taking it apart and putting it back together again works... temporarily. :silly:
You're right, that does sound like power going out. Which would be super cool for powering, say, a micro USB laser pointer, but it's not so great when it should be charging. Can you double check with another device that the charger doesn't light up normally? I know my wife's laptop charger has a LED that stays on for a long time after it's been unplugged from the wall, sipping off of power left in the charger. It could be something similar with your charger.
Just a though... if power is only suppose to go into the device, then wouldn't it be reasonable to assume to that there would be a diode forcing power to only go one way? Or does it need to cycle power back to the charger? IDK, but it might be worth looking to see if something looks missing.
I read somewhere that if the battery voltage gets too low i.e. battery is totally flat, a current will flow from the device to the charger so this may be what's going on here. I didn't really understand the post as I was just whizzing through the thread, but i think the solution was to charge the device for many hours until the battery voltage was high enough for normal charging to occur. I'll try and locate the post, but it might take a while
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@iJimaniac if all of these suggestions dont work, there is the possibility to just buy another battery and a battery charger and keep switching out the batteries when they die
Maybe @henk5066 would know something about this?
From what it sounds like, your power circuit is fried and is not directing power correctly this means that you're probably going to have to replace the mainboard. however don't worry. you can get one from a player with a broken screen on ebay for about 10 $. I can p.m. you some links to products on eBay with main board working and not screen and I can post a video on YouTube that shows you how to replace the board. it's actually rather quite easy. I don't get why most people don't do that and instead buy a new one. let me know if that helps
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From what it sounds like, your power circuit is fried and is not directing power correctly this means that you're probably going to have to replace the mainboard. however don't worry. you can get one from a player with a broken screen on ebay for about 10 $. I can p.m. you some links to products on eBay with main board working and not screen and I can post a video on YouTube that shows you how to replace the board. it's actually rather quite easy. I don't get why most people don't do that and instead buy a new one. let me know if that helps
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Wow, I didn't realize a broken player is so cheap. I'll look into it, and instructions won't be needed; I've already fully dissasembled my device many times in the past, just for kicks.
Edit: could you send me those links? I'm having a hard time finding very many under $25, which is still a good price I suppose.
the broken player it's self is cheap (0.99$ if your lowest bidder and win) it is shipping that makes up for most of the cost. Just make sure you get one that says powers on, that is the main indicator that the main board is still good.
EDIT: I just looked on ebay, aparantly the person i bought my new board is out of the 4.0 player. and it looks like there is however one with a 9.99$ bid. you could raise it and get the player but that is the cheapest you will get. i will pm you a link to it.
I had the same problem
I had the same problem, what i did was, instead of charging it with the original charger, i charged it with my nexus 10 charger in download mode all through the night, and the next day it would have about 80 percent charge and it was in the system, but it drained quick when i would unplugged it, so i repeat the same procedure over several days until get to 100% and scince then i have had no problems with my SGP, hopefully i helped you
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I had the same problem, what i did was, instead of charging it with the original charger, i charged it with my nexus 10 charger in download mode all through the night, and the next day it would have about 80 percent charge and it was in the system, but it drained quick when i would unplugged it, so i repeat the same procedure over several days until get to 100% and scince then i have had no problems with my SGP, hopefully i helped you
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Interesting, i thought the devices could not charge in download mode.
On the subject of odd charging behavieor, has anyone noticed that when plugged in running cyanogenmod overclocked to 1200mhz, the micro usb port area on the player gets rather hot?
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Interesting, i thought the devices could not charge in download mode.
On the subject of odd charging behavieor, has anyone noticed that when plugged in running cyanogenmod overclocked to 1200mhz, the micro usb port area on the player gets rather hot?
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I haven't noticed excessive heat in that area.
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