Hi all,
I'm currently developing a simple alarm app. Obviously, it is essential that the user can not simply disable the app with task manager e.g. A user could accidentally close the app and therefore not get the reminder. The sound of the reminder must not go away before the user presses a few buttons in the app.
How can I do this? A non-overridable and non-closable app.
thanks so much
Because of the nature of how Android and Linux runs I don't believe this is possible as you can always force close an application. Your best option in to just have a popup or warning when the user first loads the app telling them to make sure to disable or put an exception on your app.
The stock alarm/timer app is not affected by task killers so its possible to overcome it, possibly by using an autorun condition to relaunch after its killed?
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Hi everyone!
When my phone is idle some application are starting by themselves and they consume a lot of memory! I can see them from the go launcher killer I have!
Is there any way to stop these applications from auto starting?
kakouto said:
Hi everyone!
When my phone is idle some application are starting by themselves and they consume a lot of memory! I can see them from the go launcher killer I have!
Is there any way to stop these applications from auto starting?
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Yes there is a way. The reason why these apps start by themselves is because different apps peg themselves to specific trigger events in Android. As such, when such events occur, these apps will request Android to load them into RAM and run in the background.
Example of such trigger events is "A SMS is received" I found nonsense app that start themselves ie Asphalt 5.
So how do you prevent them from starting up like that? Go install the app called Autostarts. It is a paid app though. Run the app and scroll through the many "trigger events" Disable some of the apps from starting with the said events at your discretion.
In my case, my philosophy is i start the app at my own pace, whenever i want. I don't like push notifications except for SMS. Therefore be warned prior to doing this.
DO NOT DISABLE ANY PARTICULAR APP ESPECIALLY SYSTEM APPS unless you know what you are doing.
Hi there
sorry for asking I am somewhat new to Android.
I read very often that Google Maps should be froozen because it is a battery sucker. Now I am wondering how an application could drain the battery when I actually do not run the application.
How does Android itself deal with applications and quitting them?
I read conflicting recommendations about task managers stating that Android itself deals with this better.
So what is this freezing of apps? Does it prevent Android from starting it automatically?
Thanks for any education
Claas
Android is based on multi tasking ..ie many apps can run in the background even though you are not using it at the moment..say if you are using maps and once you're done you just exit it. However maps app will be running in background if not exited in proper manner( either using the app or by going to running services in settings and force closing).
Also certain apps are configured to autorun under certain circumstances ..say for maps or Facebook app! -try keeping your wifi /data off! Go to settings/apps/running services/menu-cached process and force close Facebook,maps however once you turn on data /wifi they will run automatically! Just check it out yourself ..
Solutions for such problems could be either to use autorun managers or to freeze the app -freezing makes the app unavailable for use until you de-freeze!ie it blocks the app from running ..
Above said statements /examples are from my experiences!correct me if I'm wrong!
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Yes but be careful, if you use task killers to kill them, they may start again and this will consume more battery than the program running.
Imho the best way to go about this is the following:
- go get Quick System Info PRO from Market (it's free)
- set it up so that it places a CPU usage icon on your status bar (the notification for that icon is also animated)
- when you find the device is sluggish and CPU usage is high, tap the notification and go to the Processes tab
- sort by CPU usage
- kill whatever it is that is using the CPU
And you may also kill all tasks just once before going to bed or something, just in case.
To stop maps, use autostarts disable all maps have in there, then you can be cool
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Seems like many applications spring back up after "killing" them though the Android task manager or any of the task managers available in market. Is annoying the hell out of me. If im not using the app I dont want it to.run in the background..
I understand that messaging applications need to run in background but not all.
How do you guys make sure
that any application which you close "remains" closed until the next time you open it?
Thank me if I helped you..
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You might try Gemini app manager to disable auto start apps
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Easy Task Killer can help too..
use Easy Battery Saver too along with it!
Thanks.for your replies guys. However.i believe the main question here is,.how.to.stop these background app processes from running until the next time I start them manually.
Problem with task managers is that they stop these apps after a certain interval. Once they do, the.apps restart after 2-5 seconds. And.remain there till the next interval of the task killer is reached. This in turn take up more memory a compared to keep the running.. In addition, these apps run in the background on their own taking up a junk of memory/processor space..
Thanks again for your replies. Please correct me.if my understanding is wrong and you are feel otherwise.
Thank me if I helped you..
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Those "apps" that you say keep opening are actually the processes running in the background. I know of many apps that keep re-enabling their processes after killing them. (IE: Facebook, some Google stuff, and a couple games that run in real-time)
Best solution: try to go into the app's settings and see if there is an option to disable anything that would require a background service to run, IE: sync, updates... If not, then just stop killing that app. Ignore it in the list or set a task killer to ignore it. If the app keeps re-opening, you killing it all the time is only doing bad because it puts more stress on the operating system because it has to take the time to reinitialize the app/service. If you are really that anal about background running apps, set android to limit a lower amount of background apps to run.
Like asdot suggested above use Gemini App Manager to disable the apps autostart permissions. If an app is set to automatically start after a certain intent is broadcast by the system (ie, at boot, or at a change in connectivity, etc.) you can use Gemini to stop that app from automatically starting. You can stop an app from automatically running in the first place instead if trying to kill it after it has started.
I am using Skype often. And I want it to be always on in the background as it makes it easier for my family abroad to communicate with me. However either android itself or my wife keeps shutting it down (don't blame her she is not very experienced user).
Is there any app or simple way to keep Skype on all the time, that even if it is shut down manually by user or task manager or android itself I want it to keep restarting itself.
I used search but I found only thousands of topics were people trying to prevent apps from running all the time in background, I want this one to do that! I will be grateful for any help. I want it to keep running on HTC Flyer.
Anyone?
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If an app has an icon in the notification bar (which skype does), android process manager wouldn't kill it. That's why apps like tasker and 3G watchdog has an icon in the notification bar. Therefore, your wife must be using some sort of task manager to kill background processes. The solution will depend on the task manager she is using. Some task killers allow you to "white list" certain apps.
Apps can shut down even if they put icons in the notification bar, if you are annoyed by this problem you know that.
What we need are an app that can monitor and restart selected apps if they aren't running.
If an app has an icon in the notification bar (which skype does), android process manager wouldn't kill it. That's why apps like tasker and 3G watchdog has an icon in the notification bar. Therefore, your wife must be using some sort of task manager to kill background processes. The solution will depend on the task manager she is using. Some task killers allow you to "white list" certain apps.
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There is task killer included in stock ROM but whether she is killing it or whether it's system I still need something (method or app) to restart it immediately after that happens.
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This is what I want to do too, I want to keep skype on all the time, but I noticed that randomly it would be killed!!!
Are you rooted? Try uninstalling all task managers and using ES task manager with white list, and perhaps run the V6 Supercharger memory script to manage memory better, he also has a section on getting apps to run at -16 system level permissions (never be killed by system)
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Are you rooted? Try uninstalling all task managers and using ES task manager with white list, and perhaps run the V6 Supercharger memory script to manage memory better, he also has a section on getting apps to run at -16 system level permissions (never be killed by system)
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I did not rooted my flyer but I won't mind doing that if that will help. I will try your advice and let you know what results did I achieved.
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auto memory manager has an option to keep apps alive, but it needs root too.
+1 for auto memory manager I ise it too since my rom had this nasty habit to kill music while it was playing. So I use this little app and it works great.I even go more ram by tweaking the settings
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I read your first post again - it must be android killing your skype. Cause to close skype u need to logout and i think that its hard too logout accidenatlly (its not only pushing "back" button.
And i dont think that there is an app which can restart manually closed app (maybe script and an auto script launcher??)
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I tried Auto Memory.
It does give you the possibility to keep alive any process (and app), but the effect disappears eventually, like minutes after.
Keeping alive Auto Memory as well doesn't help :/
Did you apply keep alive in app process list?
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leyus said:
I am using Skype often. And I want it to be always on in the background as it makes it easier for my family abroad to communicate with me. However either android itself or my wife keeps shutting it down (don't blame her she is not very experienced user).
Is there any app or simple way to keep Skype on all the time, that even if it is shut down manually by user or task manager or android itself I want it to keep restarting itself.
I used search but I found only thousands of topics were people trying to prevent apps from running all the time in background, I want this one to do that! I will be grateful for any help. I want it to keep running on HTC Flyer.
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Have you find the solution.On my Z2 it kills messenger,whatsapp,facebook,every app which runs in the background.When i unlock it,it takes 10-20 sec to connect to messenger,or i just need to restart it,and it refresh my messages faster.
leyus said:
I am using Skype often. And I want it to be always on in the background as it makes it easier for my family abroad to communicate with me. However either android itself or my wife keeps shutting it down (don't blame her she is not very experienced user).
Is there any app or simple way to keep Skype on all the time, that even if it is shut down manually by user or task manager or android itself I want it to keep restarting itself.
I used search but I found only thousands of topics were people trying to prevent apps from running all the time in background, I want this one to do that! I will be grateful for any help. I want it to keep running on HTC Flyer.
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use tasker.apk
hope it helps..
I am using Lenovo VIBE k5 anf i am unable to receive notifications from hike until I open the app and keep iy in background
I've tried doing a lot of personal research before asking. I have watchdog and betterbatterystats. I found 2 apps chewing away at my battery. After using the app I always press back and then it pops up do you really want to exit and I select yes. However, I look at the processes and I will see it running in the background. Using stuff like advanced task killer (and a bunch of other killer apps) doesn't help, as soon as it kills it, the thing just spawns again. I had to force close it or sometimes reboot the phone. Is there any app that locks down these apps so it only allows process to run when the app is in the foreground and as soon as we leave it closes all aspect of that app? (I can't uninstall those 2 apps cause they are kinda essential; but by no means does it require any background process or need to be constantly running). So far it only runs in the background if I opened the app once, but if it starts to auto run I'm screwed.
Is there any app like the cydia backgrounder where I can set a whitelist or a blacklist that only lets the app run in the foreground and as soon as I press home it will stop all its process.
Autostarts in the market. It let's you see what apps start up under what conditions. I would assume you can just doable all conditions the apps can start up from and it would do as you describe.
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Autostarts in the market. It let's you see what apps start up under what conditions. I would assume you can just doable all conditions the apps can start up from and it would do as you describe.
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I have autostart doesn't work, ok I give you an example:
Groupon app. If you don't load it after a reboot it doesn't run, however as soon as you opened the app once. Theres like no way to close it.
Come-on... one of you guys must know how to close an app and prevent it from loading up after I leave the app. Isn't there anything like cydia backgrounder that I can set so apps are only allowed to load in the foreground and closes as soon as go back to the launcher???
Solution
The best solution to this is to install titanium backup. After that, create a widget in ur homescreen and select titanium backup widget (action). Then, select the action freeze/defrost/launch and after select the app ex. Facebook and create the widget. After, you will notice that the widget for the Facebook app has created to ur homescreen with a green locker. If u press on it, it will lock the app (freezed it actually) so it doesnt run. if you want to run the app, tap again on it and automatically will defrost it and launch it.
Hit thanks if i helped you
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I've tried doing a lot of personal research before asking. I have watchdog and betterbatterystats. I found 2 apps chewing away at my battery. After using the app I always press back and then it pops up do you really want to exit and I select yes. However, I look at the processes and I will see it running in the background. Using stuff like advanced task killer (and a bunch of other killer apps) doesn't help, as soon as it kills it, the thing just spawns again. I had to force close it or sometimes reboot the phone. Is there any app that locks down these apps so it only allows process to run when the app is in the foreground and as soon as we leave it closes all aspect of that app? (I can't uninstall those 2 apps cause they are kinda essential; but by no means does it require any background process or need to be constantly running). So far it only runs in the background if I opened the app once, but if it starts to auto run I'm screwed.
Is there any app like the cydia backgrounder where I can set a whitelist or a blacklist that only lets the app run in the foreground and as soon as I press home it will stop all its process.
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I just want to add some info for a better understanding even if I understand what you meant.
1. A package showing in the process list after you chose "exit" is a sign for a service running. This is not necessary bad as there are many services doing nothing but waiting for events to process (of course some service do stuff in the background and it is good to look after those).
2. In Android there is no such concept as an app, there are activities (dialogs), and services and both have pretty complex life cycles (not just opened or closed) as you can see here
But back to your question: the right way to get rid of apps you don't want/need (also called bloatware in some cases) is to freeze them. One good tool for doing that is titanium backup.
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I just want to add some info for a better understanding even if I understand what you meant.
1. A package showing in the process list after you chose "exit" is a sign for a service running. This is not necessary bad as there are many services doing nothing but waiting for events to process (of course some service do stuff in the background and it is good to look after those).
2. In Android there is no such concept as an app, there are activities (dialogs), and services and both have pretty complex life cycles (not just opened or closed) as you can see here
But back to your question: the right way to get rid of apps you don't want/need (also called bloatware in some cases) is to freeze them. One good tool for doing that is titanium backup.
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I understand the point of apps that show up and are 0% cpu usage like facebook etc. I was only using it as an example. There are plenty of other apps that do infact chew up cpu and battery after it is loaded for the first time and is unable to close the background processes (they are shown in the watchdog and betterbatterystats). So the only way is to freeze and unfreeze everytime I use these apps?