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I have seen a few others mention this, any idea on why some of us are loosing 10% of our battery when we reboot?
I'm thinking next full charge, I will do a battery stats erase in clockwork recovery.
mycomputerisjunk said:
I have seen a few others mention this, any idea on why some of us are loosing 10% of our battery when we reboot?
I'm thinking next full charge, I will do a battery stats erase in clockwork recovery.
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It seems like every time I reboot I lose at least 5% battery.
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It seems like every time I reboot I lose at least 5% battery.
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same here.
has anyone else noticed that this phone takes ForEVER to charge? My evo would nearly fully charge in an hour and a half, I think my Tbolt, first real charge, took 3 hours.
nosympathy said:
same here.
has anyone else noticed that this phone takes ForEVER to charge? My evo would nearly fully charge in an hour and a half, I think my Tbolt, first real charge, took 3 hours.
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Ive never had a phone charge that fast so its def not specific to the Tbolt.
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Ive never had a phone charge that fast so its def not specific to the Tbolt.
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yeah my iPhone 4 would go from 15-20% to full in maybe 2 hours, on a bad day, and my evo would go from 20% ish to full in an hour and a half.
Guess I am just a little spoiled maybe.
The phone might do a "quick" charge to 80 - 90 percent, and then go into a trickle charge. I can get to the mid 80s in a couple of hours but then is slows down after that, which is a good thing.
I'm seeing the same thing as far as loosing 5-10% on a reboot. Seems like there are still some issues with the battery life on this big guy.
Dan
wait you can unplug your phone? j/k
the boot time stock is way too long... the system is loading so much junk it takes alot out of the battery... my guess is checking all the radios and such uses alot of battery and thats why the phone has the fastboot option
Here some info.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=871051
Its also better to charge with a car charger or in the wall. USB in pc does take forever if you are noticing it takes longer this could be a reason.
I was going to post this, very annoying to lose that much battery on reboot. On my evo you would gain charge while rebooting on the charger...
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TNS201 said:
Its also better to charge with a car charger or in the wall. USB in pc does take forever if you are noticing it takes longer this could be a reason.
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This is true. If I recall correctly, according to USB spec a device can draw about 100mA from a USB port without negotiation. With proper negotiation, the current draw can go as high as 500mA.
The stock HTC charger is rated at 1A (1000mA). So at least on paper, the wall charger is twice as fast as a USB port with proper installation. If negotiation is unsuccessful, the wall charger can be 10x faster than a USB port that isn't properly detecting the phone.
I'm a truck driver, I work 12-16 hours a day. I use my bolt to listen to my hometown radio shows, and slacker when they aren't on.
Is it a bad thing to have it plugged in all day? I read once its fully charged it runs off the charger power..
Thoughts?
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Someone did a test and after being fully charged the phone resorts to a trickle charge so you should be okay but probably.not the best thing for your battery.
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miketoasty said:
Someone did a test and after being fully charged the phone resorts to a trickle charge so you should be okay but probably.not the best thing for your battery.
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so i came from the evo 4G where people threw hissy fits both ways. There were people who would claim left and right that it is bad for the battery, that the battery will catch fire, melt, explode, what have you, and then there was the other like 80% of us who used trickle charging with out a problem.
personally, and what I seemed to notice, the like 6 people who actually claimed to have issues with trickle charging had purchased and were using super cheap chinese batteries.
So i am going to disagree, and say there will be no issue with trickle charging unless you start using cheap chinese batteries, and even then the percentage chance of you having an issue is so minor.
I have noticed that until it gets to 100% it gets awfully hot. If I leave it charged/plugged in all day its cool to the touch.
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zipkicker said:
I have noticed that until it gets to 100% it gets awfully hot. If I leave it charged/plugged in all day its cool to the touch.
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looking at battery monitor widget my phone after hitting 100% charge is pulling 180 or less mA while "idle" and the temp sits about 32-33C. Seems to keep the Voltage very very steady. Whatever HTC did I really doubt it will hurt your phone in anyway.
I don't think it will hurt the phone. I do think it will make the battery have even less life though. I.e, when you finally do unplug it, the battery won't last very long. Batteries need to be charged and discharged often to work well.
My laptop at home stays plugged in all the time. And when I unplug it, it lasts about 10 minutes on the battery. lol
keeverw said:
I don't think it will hurt the phone. I do think it will make the battery have even less life though. I.e, when you finally do unplug it, the battery won't last very long. Batteries need to be charged and discharged often to work well.
My laptop at home stays plugged in all the time. And when I unplug it, it lasts about 10 minutes on the battery. lol
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uh, false statement is fasle.
http://www.laptoptravel.com/Article.aspx?ID=214
your laptop battery is probably not a lithium-ion battery. Please read said link. Your laptop battery is a NiMH which has the "memory" your talking about. Our cellphones have Lithium-Ion batteries.
nosympathy said:
uh, false statement is fasle.
http://www.laptoptravel.com/Article.aspx?ID=214
your laptop battery is probably not a lithium-ion battery. Please read said link. Your laptop battery is a NiMH which has the "memory" your talking about. Our cellphones have Lithium-Ion batteries.
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No, my statement was 100% true. It might've been irrelevant because it's a different type of battery, but it was not false as you said.
I have read that LiOn batteries do not develop memories as bad as other types, but they still do to some extent. FWIW.
If you watch your phone, it stops charging when its full. I often pull the phone off the charger with less then 100 charge due to this and this is also why the bump charge will bump it back up too 100%
So leaving it plugged in ask day will have no harmful effects at all.
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R1lover said:
If you watch your phone, it stops charging when its full. I often pull the phone off the charger with less then 100 charge due to this and this is also why the bump charge will bump it back up too 100%
So leaving it plugged in ask day will have no harmful effects at all.
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actually battery monitor widget says the opposite. My phone continues to charge after hitting 100%. It doesn't do what my evo would do stock, where it would charge to 100%, let the phone die to 90% and then charge back to 100%.
R1lover said:
If you watch your phone, it stops charging when its full. I often pull the phone off the charger with less then 100 charge due to this and this is also why the bump charge will bump it back up too 100%
So leaving it plugged in ask day will have no harmful effects at all.
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now how do you bump charge a tbolt that when powered off and u plug into a charger boots into recovery instead of staying off?
full instructions r1lover would be awesome bc i want to try "bump charging" but not gonna make my own unplug and plug in instruction since i never have done it before lol.
RafficaX said:
now how do you bump charge a tbolt that when powered off and u plug into a charger boots into recovery instead of staying off?
full instructions r1lover would be awesome bc i want to try "bump charging" but not gonna make my own unplug and plug in instruction since i never have done it before lol.
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Personally I never shut my phone off, it's on 24/7/365, if I don't want to be bothered it goes into silent mode but is always on.
For me, I plug the phone in every night when I go to bed... when I wake up, I unplug it for a minute and then plug it back in. Normally when I wake up it's anywhere between 95-100% showing.... Once I'm done getting ready I grab the phone and off I go with a full charged battery.
Unlike some phones the android phones have never kept a 100% charge while plugged in... this is one thing I do miss from the iphone, it always kept it at 100% while plugged in. The android phones stop charging when it get's to 100% and start again at an unkown %.
There is no magic... the only reason for unplulgging it is to start the charging process again.
what's the exact name and publisher of that battery widget? i'd like to take a look at it.
gsxr1kmatt said:
what's the exact name and publisher of that battery widget? i'd like to take a look at it.
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its battery monitor widget in the market. Its a white box with a green battery on it.
nosympathy said:
actually battery monitor widget says the opposite. My phone continues to charge after hitting 100%. It doesn't do what my evo would do stock, where it would charge to 100%, let the phone die to 90% and then charge back to 100%.
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Use the built in battery widget and see what you get.. it will display the actual percentage on the screen.
I doubt it's a problem, it should be capable of switching to a trickle or over to powering vs. charging in the circuitry. The worst thing you can do for these relative to the charge is drain them completely and let them sit drained. These days for the longest life, you'd keep it at around 3/4 charged, but it's not a huge difference in life usually. The reason for that is lithium batteries hold a native charge by default.
keeverw said:
No, my statement was 100% true. It might've been irrelevant because it's a different type of battery, but it was not false as you said.
I have read that LiOn batteries do not develop memories as bad as other types, but they still do to some extent. FWIW.
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They do not have memory. I dug up an old article I wrote nearly 6 years ago where I touch on that fact even notebookforums.com/thread94560.html
Hi everyone,
Im running cherryblur 1.4d obviously rooted and unlocked. I've been running it like this for over a month now and its been great but a week ago my phone stopped charging up to 100% when I let it charge overnight. It reaches 90% and stops. I have a charger that charges the phone and an extra battery at the same time and it has worked great since I got it and the only way to get the batteries to go to 100 is to take the batteries out of the phone and put 5hem to charge in the battery slot. Please help me guys. Its not the battery because I have another battery and it won't charge fully either. I'm going crazy with this I've looked everywhere and haven't found anything
Charge your phone to its fullest capacity (I guess that would be ~90 for you)
Wipe battery stats in recovery, reboot.
Let the battery drain completely, until the atrix shuts off. Watch a bunch of videos or something.
Recharge back to full capacity, hopefully 100%
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Charge your phone to its fullest capacity (I guess that would be ~90 for you)
Wipe battery stats in recovery, reboot.
Let the battery drain completely, until the atrix shuts off. Watch a bunch of videos or something.
Recharge back to full capacity, hopefully 100%
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You might also want to try charging the battery with the phone switched off, when it reaches 100% remove the battery and wait for the no battery icon to appear on the screen. Then re-insert the battery and leave to charge for another hour or so.
After doing this, boot into CWM and clear the battery stats. This should fix your problem.
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You might also want to try charging the battery with the phone switched off, when it reaches 100% remove the battery and wait for the no battery icon to appear on the screen. Then re-insert the battery and leave to charge for another hour or so.
After doing this, boot into CWM and clear the battery stats. This should fix your problem.
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Mine won't charge to full unless I'm using the charger that came with it, ALL other chargers stop at 95-98%.
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Make sure the other chargers are kicking out at least 700ma the moto charger kicks out 850ma.
Any less than 700ma and you'll not get a full charge, a lot of 3rd party chargers only 500ma which will not work too well.
poppygt said:
Mine won't charge to full unless I'm using the charger that came with it, ALL other chargers stop at 95-98%.
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try to charge on dock, the most powerful charger
bazzarooney said:
Make sure the other chargers are kicking out at least 700ma the moto charger kicks out 850ma.
Any less than 700ma and you'll not get a full charge, a lot of 3rd party chargers only 500ma which will not work too well.
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^ This. Most people don't realize that they can't use just any charger with some phones, this phone being one of them. It requires a certain amount of juice running through it to charge properly, which is why if it's dead it won't charge from a USB port.
You may also want to try out the following thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1198333
Thank you guys I'm in the process of trying the first suggestion I'll see if it charges fully tonight
Also if you are swapping batteries, the battery stats will continuously get messed up. It will be trying to configure the two as one and that could make this a reoccurring problem for you
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Oh that could be it as well because the second battery I got drains quickly (or it shows that way) and spends the other half of the battery life (8~10hrs) at 1%
Ok guys turning it off and charging fully and then unplugging and plugging again, and wiping battery stats after worked perfectly. Thank you!
For anyone who has this problem you can wipe battery stats with the battery calibrator program or in CWM and then you must drain the battery after wiping the stats.
When I charge my phone it only charges to 99%. I'll leave it in for a while, come back and it's only at 99%. Either charging in the wall, or on the computer. It used to make it to 100% then all of a sudden it just stays at 99% regardless how long it charges. So the charging light always stays on and never lets me know when it's fully charged.
Any idea why?
Thanks.
Mine does that too once in a while, randomly.
But the Sensation would do that to randomly.
Dunno why.
Battery is strange...
I get that too. But eventually it will get to 100%. There has been times where it was charged to 100% then suddenly drop to 99% even though it still plugged in.
Did you get your phone recently? I'm thinking its because the battery needs to be conditioned.
Mines always does that, as soon as I unplug it it jumps to 98%. Im hoping ARHD fixes this
I've installed Battery Widget (from Market) and it reports 100%. I plug in every night and in the morning it reads 100%.
zellroot said:
Mines always does that, as soon as I unplug it it jumps to 98%. Im hoping ARHD fixes this
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ARHD, what is that?
nguyendqh said:
ARHD, what is that?
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New Amaze Android Revolution HD ROM by mike1986?
This happens with many devices. I have not seen this yet on my Amaze but I am sure at some point it will happen. Try turning the phone off and charging it to 100% then power it on also try running the battery all the way down and letting it charge to full UNINTERRUPTED over night. If those dont help you can always try another rom with better battery management or go into a t-mobile store and get a battery replacement if your battery is still under warranty. Hope this helps
HTC does this on a lot of phones. It is a safety default to keep the battery healthy and safe. I had this issue with the Evo. The only way to fully charge a battery is to have other a wall charger or a SBC kernel.
its the best sense rom known to man in my opinion.
daswahnsinn said:
HTC does this on a lot of phones. It is a safety default to keep the battery healthy and safe. I had this issue with the Evo. The only way to fully charge and battery is to have other a wall charger or a SBC kernel.
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My stock battery is 3.8v, and it only goes to 100% if I charge it in the phone. If I use my wall charger, it shows up at 99% when I put it back in my phone. I have two aftermarket batteries that show about 98% when charged from the wall. I am thinking that the phone charging circuit is set for 3.8v, and might possibly overheat the aftermarket batteries (3.7v). I saw one review that said these batteries melted the top of his SIM card. I'm not planning on trying that; I use the stock, charging every night, and swap the spares in if I run out of charge during the day.
I just remember hearing the same stories when I had my evo. You could charge for hours and unplug it and it would almost immediately drop to 99 or 98. So my previous statement may or may not help.
I charged mine over nite and woke up to it being 99%, left it for another hour or two and it hit 100%. I would say to leave it a little longer to get that last 1%.
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For anyone who is running quicksense, if you want better battery life, charge your phone completely and go into recovery > Advanced> wipe battery stats. And done!
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RZJZA80 said:
I charged mine over nite and woke up to it being 99%, left it for another hour or two and it hit 100%. I would say to leave it a little longer to get that last 1%.
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I find that if my phone its powered off while charging, it shows 100. If powered on, it shoes 99.
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this is normal for lithium ion batteries...it also depends how the manufacturer perceives the battery...some manufeacturers say that your phone is 100 percent but it might only be around 95-98...overcharging lithium ions are bad...also some manufacturers say you have 10 percent left while you might actually have 15 or maybe to percent left...this is a fail safe method to shut off the phone and keep the battery from draining completely WHICH IS REALLY REALLY BAD FOR LITHIUM IONS...OVER CHARGING THE BATTERY IS BAD TOO...perhaps htc's thresh holds are a little different and actual to the real battery life.
also not a good idea to use your phone or any lithium ion device while its charging
powering off your phone to charge it overnight is the best idea to give you lithium ion a long life but this is not practical. this is why it says 100 percent when you turn off the phone and 99 when you're phone is off....it confuses the phone: " A portable device must be turned off during charge. This allows the battery to reach the set threshold voltage unhindered, and enables terminating charge on low current. A parasitic load (which means using phone or turning screen on while its charging) confuses the charger by depressing the battery voltage and preventing the current in the saturation stage to drop low. A battery may be fully charged, but the prevailing conditions prompt a continued charge. This causes undue battery stress and compromises safety."
http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/a..._ion_batteries
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=19651965&postcount=7
Anyone know how I can get my battery back to charging to 100%? I flashed nuetrino yesturday and had to restore my backup, now my phone wont charge past 78% even though it still says charging.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1198333
Take battery out, plug phone into wall charger, then put the battery back in the phone. Let it charge for an hour.
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Its charging to 4200mV but only saying it's at 78% and still charging. I tried the Juggernaut fix before and it actually killed my battery life. ill try taking the battery out and plugging it in to the wall.
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sunshine1982 said:
Its charging to 4200mV but only saying it's at 78% and still charging. I tried the Juggernaut fix before and it actually killed my battery life. ill try taking the battery out and plugging it in to the wall.
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I had your same problem after chain flashing about six ROMS, and that fixed it for me
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Alcapone263 said:
Take battery out, plug phone into wall charger, then put the battery back in the phone. Let it charge for an hour.
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Alcapone263 said:
Take battery out, plug phone into wall charger, then put the battery back in the phone. Let it charge for an hour.
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This will definitely fix the problem, but only temporarily. Next time it drains down and I try to charge it up again, it stops at 80-85%. But when you look at the battery stats, it shows 4200.
I've tried wiping the battery stats, applying the Juggernaut fix, following the steps in the ultimate batttery guide -- still have the problem. I even switched back from CM7 to stock ROM and can't seem to shake this issue.
Just totally kill it and then recharge it fully.
Thats what I do whenever I get this problem.
data/battd/
delete "cc_data. cc_fata_old. powerup."
reboot
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delete "cc_data. cc_fata_old. powerup."
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I am having the same problem since updating to gingerbread. Will try deleting files above. First time I´ve seen that advice.
Just an update. Temporary fix for me only. Phone still charges only to 60% after a recharge.tried everything so far with no results.
I switched from the ics mod cm7 to nuetrino and also drained it fully. It now charges to around 93ish%, but my phone normally charges to only about 95-97% even when it was on stock.
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this method works to set your current level to 100% or 99%. just did it with 67% remaining and rebooted to see 99% battery. tried wiping batt stats and plugging in without booting but it still saw the batt as full.
luckily i was just experimenting so i had backed up all three of those files and restored them and was back to 67% after reboot. so i'm charging it to the max my phone sees now (87%) and then deleting the files to set that as the new 100%.
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this method works to set your current level to 100% or 99%. just did it with 67% remaining and rebooted to see 99% battery. tried wiping batt stats and plugging in without booting but it still saw the batt as full.
luckily i was just experimenting so i had backed up all three of those files and restored them and was back to 67% after reboot. so i'm charging it to the max my phone sees now (87%) and then deleting the files to set that as the new 100%.
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Let me know if it sticks after a full discharge and recharge. I deleted the files while i was at 100%, maybe if should have done it while stuck at 60%.
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Let me know if it sticks after a full discharge and recharge. I deleted the files while i was at 100%, maybe if should have done it while stuck at 60%.
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I also just deleted the files, i had a full charge (showing 93% (and thats been the highest in weeks!)), i will post back my findings as well
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4 hours later, full brightness and no screen timout, i am down to 1%.... just waiting for the phone to turn off. i want to post my results so you guys can see when you come on next... the longest part now is going to be the full 100% charge, which i have not had in weeks.... fingers crossed!
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Well I have been stuck at 93% for the last 30 minutes or so. looks like if you let the phone go dead or power down, it reverts back, or there is something else causing. this issue
It seems to me deleting those files results the same as removing the battery while charging and placing in back.both tips gets you back to 100% but only temporarily for some of us. After a discharge it will not charge to 100%, just as before. I have no idea what is causing it, but my phone battery is about to die from overcharging. like everyone else, it started after a flash.but for some reason it is permanent for some users. Will be getting a new phone if I cannot solve the problem. If anyone had any insights feel welcome to contribute.
ya... after leaving it charge overnight, mine is only at 94%.... so this is only a temp, VERY ttemp fix.
i was thinking the other day, my dad has an Atrix also, his is BONE stock. i was thinking about switching batteries for a day and see what happens.... what do ya think?
Casper34 said:
ya... after leaving it charge overnight, mine is only at 94%.... so this is only a temp, VERY ttemp fix.
i was thinking the other day, my dad has an Atrix also, his is BONE stock. i was thinking about switching batteries for a day and see what happens.... what do ya think?
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Worth a try, I was going to buy a new battery to see if it solves it. from what I have read it is a problem with motorola battery driver and gingerbread. Let us know how it went. Maybe a new battery somehow resets it back into working.
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Worth a try, I was going to buy a new battery to see if it solves it. from what I have read it is a problem with motorola battery driver and gingerbread. Let us know how it went. Maybe a new battery somehow resets it back into working.
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well.... JUST found out that he had his phone on charge all night and guess what.... STUCK AT 90%!!! He has a BONE STOCK, no rom, no root, no nothing, OUT OF THE BOX, Atrix. So thats a twist in this issue. he said he took his battery out with the phone off and when he put it back in, it was 100%. he just told me that the other day it went to 80% charge.