[Q] Is the Amaze's battery life inherently bad? - HTC Amaze 4G

By inherently bad, I mean are there some extra power sucking hardware components that were just poor design choices (processor/screen) and therefore can't be remedied through software fixes?
I understand that the sensation has decent battery life, whereas the amaze does not. Yet the Amaze should have a more recent processor and a larger battery. So I just want to make sure before I buy that if I'm willing to add a custom rom and use juice defender this will make the Amaze no more power hungry than its direct competitors.
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I'm thinking most of the drain is coming from the extra work caused by Sense. Custom ROMs do help with battery since they are debloated and all but when we have something AOSP, battery life should be much better. I had experience with my old Moto Cliq where Motoblur would just chug battery. It wasn't until we got AOSP or CyanogenMod that the battery life was acceptable. You could also buy an extended battery like Anker. With the ICS leak, I heard some people report better battery due to better management with the dual-core CPU.
To summarize, we can extend battery life greatly. I'm not sure if there are any hardware stuff that causes shorter battery life though.
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It's only bad if your going to play one of the new console quality games out there or anything else that really going to push that dual core 1.5mhz chipset. Imagine powering your laptop with a battery the size of the one in your phone that's what you get. Get a car charger grab a Pocket seized power pack from Amazon for $10th or an extra batt and you'll be fine. Either that or just text make some calls & listen to some music and let all that power chill & you'll make it all day no problem. Push it hard & it's dead in 2hrs. But the things it can do are crazy. This thing has more balls than my laptop. Just my 2 cents.

I don't believe that the Amaze's battery is inherently bad. I was able to get 10 hours off of Beast Rom with moderate usage.

I talk a lot on Skype with my relatives sometimes. It's much cheaper for me because I'm using the T-mobile 5 gigs of 4G at $30. Lots of data but only 100 minutes.
So I'm pretty familiar with the battery life. With the new ICS leak my battery life has improved a lot. Still had a green bar on the battery even after using Skype on 4G for over an hour. I do however keep a charger at home, car and at work.

lamenramen said:
By inherently bad, I mean are there some extra power sucking hardware components that were just poor design choices (processor/screen) and therefore can't be remedied through software fixes?
I understand that the sensation has decent battery life, whereas the amaze does not. Yet the Amaze should have a more recent processor and a larger battery. So I just want to make sure before I buy that if I'm willing to add a custom rom and use juice defender this will make the Amaze no more power hungry than its direct competitors.
Thanks
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On stock yeah the battery life is HORRIBLE, I am a average user and it use to last me 6-8 hours and sometimes less. After switching to Energy rom my battery improved GREATLY, I had anywhere between 12 to 16 hours.
With the new ICS leak that came, I notice stock had improved significantly over previous GB stock ! I just switched over to Revolution, checking it out to see how it is although I much prefer the Energy rom simply because of the 5x5 layout.

F9zSlavik said:
On stock yeah the battery life is HORRIBLE, I am a average user and it use to last me 6-8 hours and sometimes less. After switching to Energy rom my battery improved GREATLY, I had anywhere between 12 to 16 hours.
With the new ICS leak that came, I notice stock had improved significantly over previous GB stock ! I just switched over to Revolution, checking it out to see how it is although I much prefer the Energy rom simply because of the 5x5 layout.
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Wow, thank you for the reassurance. I was getting 6-8 hours as well. I am highly skeptical that a ROM could make that much of a difference, (going from 12-16) but I am happy to try.

I have noticed on some days prior to the pics leak that I would get 10+ hours and some cays I would get maybe 5 Max. Bone stock btw. Since the update I am killing that thing. I was able to go 6 and that was with the radio off, no sync, nothing. Only thing running was a podcast. Then again for the first time I was able to get 12hrs via radio off. I don't know I am personally not too happy with the radio update. Regardless I am glad I have the leak and I'm glad there is a place like this where I am giving so many options and get to learn more about this phone.
Thank you xda members glad you are here

i get great battery everyday. since day one by far the best phone i've owned in every aspect but the battery life for me is incredible.

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Well... here's my results
Stock GB Amaze: After 10 hours (with moderate use) I was at 20%
Unlocked bootloader.. installed NRG's GB ROM (still waiting a bit to upgrade to ICS.. mainly waiting for radio issues to be resolved)
Before I had to plug in for the night, I was at 13hrs54minutes with 30% battery left and MUCH MUCH MORE awake/screen time (total screen ON time was at about 3hrs45minutes) than the test with stock..
So yeah, the ROM you're running makes a GIGANTIC DIFFERENCE.

Does the energy gingerbread and the energy ice cream sandwich rom get the same battery life? Have the ICS Roms been maximized for battery life like the gingerbread Roms have?

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Is the Amaze batter life THAT bad?

Hey All,
I was just wondering if they could post some of their impressions of the Amaze's battery life. According to the engadget's review it's horrid. 5hrs of use? that can't even last half a day. Mind you, the Amaze has a bigger battery than the sensation
(google Engadget Amaze)
I currently have the Sensation and the battery life was "bearable". It was at the limit of what's acceptable for battery life. After I undervolted the cores (-62.5mV), i'm having amazing battery life (10-12 hours of usage with data/email/text/light surfing/calls). If I upgrade to the Anker battery, it's going to be sweet.
I was originally going to upgrade to the Amaze but the battery life scares me. Can anyone so a comparison between the GS2 or post some real-life usage stats of the battery? If it's really that bad, i might just have to get the other option which is the GS2.
I think its normal
the desire hd have that battery live, the sensation too....the amaze have exactly the same battery
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I think its normal
the desire hd have that battery live, the sensation too....the amaze have exactly the same battery
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Agree
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goonx said:
Hey All,
I was just wondering if they could post some of their impressions of the Amaze's battery life. According to the engadget's review it's horrid. 5hrs of use? that can't even last half a day. Mind you, the Amaze has a bigger battery than the sensation
(google Engadget Amaze)
I currently have the Sensation and the battery life was "bearable". It was at the limit of what's acceptable for battery life. After I undervolted the cores (-62.5mV), i'm having amazing battery life (10-12 hours of usage with data/email/text/light surfing/calls). If I upgrade to the Anker battery, it's going to be sweet.
I was originally going to upgrade to the Amaze but the battery life scares me. Can anyone so a comparison between the GS2 or post some real-life usage stats of the battery? If it's really that bad, i might just have to get the other option which is the GS2.
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i think its great actually..
I don't think it's any worse than any other (most recently, Sensation - like the others here).
Eclipsex2 said:
I think its normal
the desire hd have that battery live, the sensation too....the amaze have exactly the same battery
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I agree. I've had several Androids, and this one seems about average. I can burn through a full charge in 5-6 hours of heavy use, or go all day with the phone mostly on standby. Like any other Android, I charge whenever I have the opportunity. I would love to have the battery life of my BB9780.
that sounds better... engadget made it sound really really bad. I was wondering what was making the phone consume so much power. It's essentially almost the same hardware as the sensation except for a few new upgrades.
does anyone have their battery graph to share?
Usually, I take anything reported by Engadget as not reliable ...
It is very clear that if it is not an Apple product, they will find a way to criticize...
2ndHalfCor said:
I agree. I've had several Androids, and this one seems about average. I can burn through a full charge in 5-6 hours of heavy use, or go all day with the phone mostly on standby. Like any other Android, I charge whenever I have the opportunity. I would love to have the battery life of my BB9780.
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It was true with old blackberries, but if you take Torch and similar to Android or iPhone, you will notice that multitasking is killing a battery phone, as well as its capacitive screen.
Old blaberries were bearing strong battery life, as it was doing nothing in background (and in foreground ... sorry, joking).
BUT, I'm using a Desire (first gen) and waiting to upgrade to Telus Amaze. What I can say, is the ROM, by what it integrates as processes and apps running, is the culprit. I tried Cyanogenmod, then LeeDroid, and depending on the version, one was better than another... for now, last LeeDroid version is GREAT!!!
Q.Entity said:
Usually, I take anything reported by Engadget as not reliable ...
It is very clear that if it is not an Apple product, they will find a way to criticize...
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Gizmodo is far worse than Engadget about this, but Engadget has gotten noticeably skewed lately.
It seems normal to me--same run time as my Vibrant on CM7/Vibrant 4g on custom Froyo/ N1 on Sense. 5 hours? They were hitting it harder than the fist of an angry god. I play music 9 hours straight, games, sms, calls. 9 HOURS.
I personally find it exceptional, especially right out of the box.
I use 25% screen brightness and black background.
2G only.
The only syncs I have are FB, Gmail and Exchange. I've disabled the unnecessary stuff like weather stocks and FB contact integration as well as Picasa sync and I can easily get a full day out of it and come home with 60% battery life left.
I'm not a heavy user but I'm very happy with the battery life. I'm excited to get in and start ditching bloat.
Since you have sensation u can use sensation,s battery for amaze. I bought an anker battery of sensation, it works perfect on my amaze
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Totally disagree.
goonx said:
Hey All,
I was just wondering if they could post some of their impressions of the Amaze's battery life. According to the engadget's review it's horrid. 5hrs of use? that can't even last half a day. Mind you, the Amaze has a bigger battery than the sensation
(google Engadget Amaze)
I currently have the Sensation and the battery life was "bearable". It was at the limit of what's acceptable for battery life. After I undervolted the cores (-62.5mV), i'm having amazing battery life (10-12 hours of usage with data/email/text/light surfing/calls). If I upgrade to the Anker battery, it's going to be sweet.
I was originally going to upgrade to the Amaze but the battery life scares me. Can anyone so a comparison between the GS2 or post some real-life usage stats of the battery? If it's really that bad, i might just have to get the other option which is the GS2.
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I have a sensation and a Amaze, the amaze is a much more impressive device and has the best battery life I've seen since I started using the HD2 back in the day. Normal use last me almost a full twenty four hours, with sync mail every two hours/weather. And since it was released about four weeks ago, tmo has already released three updates and told me another is coming very shortly to add the wi fi calling feature, and also stated that HTC will be giving us a new update to take us to ICS.
Compared to the sensation, the amaze is a real peice of hardware, the sensation just feels cheap to me and it's battery is very poor. I'm selling my sensation and keeping the amaze. You'll like it if you get one. Peace. V
Thanks for all the replies! If I can get someone to buy my sensation, i'll be definitely buying the Amaze. I live in canada so unfortunately i can't check it out in person but it sounds like a great piece of hardware.
The only thing i might miss is not having the the SAMOLED on the GS2. Resolution vs. Colour saturation.
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I have a sensation and a Amaze, the amaze is a much more impressive device and has the best battery life I've seen since I started using the HD2 back in the day. Normal use last me almost a full twenty four hours, with sync mail every two hours/weather. And since it was released about four weeks ago, tmo has already released three updates and told me another is coming very shortly to add the wi fi calling feature, and also stated that HTC will be giving us a new update to take us to ICS.
Compared to the sensation, the amaze is a real peice of hardware, the sensation just feels cheap to me and it's battery is very poor. I'm selling my sensation and keeping the amaze. You'll like it if you get one. Peace. V
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I have the Sensation and upgraded to the Amaze last week. I never received any updates. What three Tmo updates are you referring to?
How is it that you are getting a full day on a charge? I have the brightness turned down, all Htc widgets off, and simple use and barely get 10 hours until its down to 20%. It is an improvement over the Sensation but imo, not in the battery department.
Set your network mode to GSM only. There is little to no use to high speed data if it's just idle receiving emails.
I use the Curvefish widget 2g/3g on/off which brings me to that part of the wireless networks menu for easy change so if time is a factor and I want to surf, I'll turn it on.
If that doesn't do it for you, dupliacte some of the settings and see if there is a change.
I did no battery "training" with mine either.
To answer to the thread title:YES, MY BATTERY S***!
I have disabled almost any sync ( left gmail...I buy android only for that) and in 30 minutes my battery passed from 40 to 15. just doing some Skype chats. I can afford two batteries..or plug it while at work..but I unplugged at 4 pm...at 8.30 was at 15% alarm! I went out of office at 6...what could I possibly do wrong? Sgs2...I am coming soon..
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2h at Starbucks listening to YouTube and few Skype calls = 60% battery
Even my sensation wasn't doing that bad ... Wtf is it made of ...pudding maybe ??
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That doesn't even arrende bad to me...you were streaming a lot
at the end.
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Amaze is a power hog and other issues

So, I made a switch from HD2 running android to Amaze hoping it will have a better battery life coz of its juicy more 1730mAh battery, more power efficient s-lcd screen and the fact its an native android device (which the hd2 wasn't) but its been barely 2 days and I'm seriously disappointed with it.
I'm have a moderate usage which includes calls, pandora, youtube and net surfing but it barely lasts till evening and the usage is actually less than what i did on HD2 coz I don't have put any games on Amaze yet. I had lots on HD2. With HD2 I could easily pass through the day and still have about 10-20% battery left at night and this was on its anemic 1230mAh battery
I do realize the HD2 was rooted and was running CM7 and had all kinds of custom kernels and stuff. So is stock Sense and HTC kernel the culprit here ?
I've already ticked in the setting for Power efficiency under power settings which turns off auto sync (I have google and facebook sync same as I had on HD2) and using auto brightness with the least setting, but neither of them are helping
One thing I noticed in current widget log and current widget display, is the power drain in standby hardly goes below 100mA anytime ? According to me, this seems to be the issue hogging the battery as on HD2 it used to be <10mA most of the times with occasional spikes...but in Amaze every value is like more than 100mA. Does the faux kernel and custom ROMS helps with this, a lot ?
Ideally I should try it myself and see, but don't want to unlock the bootloader and stuff just yet as if the things are going to be like this, I may as well sell it and put in some more money and switch to other side (sgs2)
The other theory I have is the CPU on HD2 is single core 1GHZ while Amaze is dual core 1.5ghz. Gingerbread doesn't have proper dual core support so things will improve when ICS comes ?
Also on a side note, is there a problem with earphones having L shaped jack on Amaze ? My primary headphones monster turbine pro which have L shaped jack don't have a very good fit in it and small amount of force seems to disconnect the headset from phone. Its really annoying, although my other earphones which have a straight pin don't have this issue. But its not the earphone problem either as I don't have this issue with turbine's in my mp3 player and HD2 ?
The stock battery was horrific for me so I bought the Anker 1900mah battery from ebay and It's far better than stock...I'm at 15 hours with 47% left...Tasker is helping a lil also.
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Hmmm didn't think i would have to upgrade the battery just after buying it, although seems something wrong is with the battery though...maybe HTC just bloated its spec to 1730
Yea, I have advanced task manager with auto-kill, but its really the same with it or without..
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Hmmm didn't think i would have to upgrade the battery just after buying it, although seems something wrong is with the battery though...maybe HTC just bloated its spec to 1730
Yea, I have advanced task manager with auto-kill, but its really the same with it or without..
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Try letting the battery discharge completely until phone turns off, and then plug it up and let it charge to 100% without unplugging it.
My stock battery last 12-16hrs depending on use. I also have an Anker 1900mAH last a good 18-20 if I charge it inside the phone. If I charge it with the Anker charger it last about 8hrs.
Guys what about the current widget numbers ? Have anyone of you got it or can get it to see how is the drain like for you guys?
No matter how strong the battery, if its going to [email protected], it won't last very long. 18-19 hrs on after market 1900mAh battery isn't very impressive figure either
I'm not quite sure of this drain, is the fast 4g on Amaze the culprit just like LTE
Also let me know if you guys have stock or custom ROM ?
Mafioso said:
One thing I noticed in current widget log and current widget display, is the power drain in standby hardly goes below 100mA anytime ? According to me, this seems to be the issue hogging the battery as on HD2 it used to be <10mA most of the times with occasional spikes...but in Amaze every value is like more than 100mA. Does the faux kernel and custom ROMS helps with this, a lot ?
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i assume youre talking about cell standby? you WANT this number to be high on the list
You should use a battery saving app like juice defender or battery fu.
Personally, I use battery fu and I have gotten more than 20 hours of battery, on stock battery, running on stock phone, unrooted.
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I havent had any battery life issues with mine. Before rooting I could go the whole day on a charge but it would be close to dead around 10PM. I'm still getting used to the new ROM I flashed but battery life has definitely improved.
I would recommend opening the task manager and killing off some unneeded apps.
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I havent had any battery life issues with mine. Before rooting I could go the whole day on a charge but it would be close to dead around 10PM. I'm still getting used to the new ROM I flashed but battery life has definitely improved.
I would recommend opening the task manager and killing off some unneeded apps.
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Task managers kill battery life even more
Is it bad if I use the HTC task manager, I only use it to kill the browser which stays open even if you hit back
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Using task managers to kill an app that you don't want running isn't bad, I think its the continuely killing all apps every 30 minutes that makes it worse.
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i assume youre talking about cell standby? you WANT this number to be high on the list
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I'm not sure why this should be high
It should be low ? A high number would mean its losing more power during standby...
Guys, There are 2 school of thoughts about task manager...I agree task manager may consume more battery if you look into the theory how android works...but I've tried with and without task manager it doesn't make much of a difference from what I observed
Also what about L shaped jack earphone issue? Is it fine for everyone else?
I have the same issue my battery lasts 6-8 hours MAX with intermediate use....juice defender, tried every rom and different kernels.
My brother Easily gets 16-18 hours with intermediate use (galaxy s2) same processor. I know his battery is a little bigger but I didn't think his battery life would triple mine -__-
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Is it galaxy s2 tmo version?
I checked out there forum too and things are not looking very good there also with many people reporting horrible battery life
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Task managers kill battery life even more
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I use the HTC one that came with the phone and kill apps that consume a lot of resources in the background.
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Is it galaxy s2 tmo version?
I checked out there forum too and things are not looking very good there also with many people reporting horrible battery life
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Yeah the tmo version. My brother gets amazing battery life. I've seen him pull about 30 hours with super low useage.
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This phone is anything but a battery hog. Energy 3.10.12 release has these results to boast.
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What kernel?
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This phone is anything but a battery hog. Energy 3.10.12 release has these results to boast.
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Hi Glacier,
Thanks for the update That seems reassuring...
I've been researching on Amaze battery quite a lot, I think current widget numbers are misleading because even in Airport mode it shows more than 100mAh drain, which is not possible..
I've found out another app...My battery drain analyzer written by a fellow member here at XDA
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.WazaBe.android.BatteryDrain
It basically calculates the drain rate in %/hr, basically measures how much time does it take for battery to take 1% dip...
I've found for my amaze its close to 1.6-3%/Hr when in standby, when phone is not woken up during the period...I think its on a higher side but acceptable still...Can any member with a custom ROM/kernel also report his/her number..
BTW I've seen the numbers on TMO SGSII in their forum, this number is roughly the same there too ~ 2%/per hour for most users...

[Q] Official ICS battery life vs GB battery life

So I'm on stock LA4 GB. Contemplating flashing LPQ and wondering beforehand how the battery life is?
I have BT/Wifi/3G on all day with about 1-2hrs of calls max in a day and on GB I reach around 20% battery at 6pm. Phone leaves charger at 8am.
What's to expect with LPQ? Any firsthand experiences so far?
I did not tested yet the LPQ in full radio but so far I am liking its battery life performance.
let's wait for others input..
Cheers,
Unwired
ics standby time is normal and most likely same like gb rom in term of battery life.
but usage time ,ics seems to eat more juice ..
but i believe after several cycle of full charge + calibrate , it'll be normal too. just like gb
I installed it and I'm about to start my day.. Right now it's pretty nice. G+ update fixed the crashes but I'm unable to detect my Bluetooth earpiece and that's a deal breaker as I need it for when I get calls while driving.
I installed LPQ yesterday and I'm going back to GB 2.3.6 because of the battery life. With GB I could last almost 16 hours of moderate to heavy use. Today, with moderate use, it lasted me roughly 8 hours. This is a deal breaker for me because I'm on the move all day long.
It was a disappointment because it looks almost as GB but with lots of glitches on my favorite games and apps, battery drainage, and crashes. I guess I was expecting something more like Vanilla Ice Cream Sandwich. I wish there were no OS fragmentation on stock Android. Something more like iOS. My iPod Touch from two years ago looks exactly the same as my mother's brand new iPhone 4s.
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I installed LPQ yesterday and I'm going back to GB 2.3.6 because of the battery life. With GB I could last almost 16 hours of moderate to heavy use. Today, with moderate use, it lasted me roughly 8 hours. This is a deal breaker for me because I'm on the move all day long.
It was a disappointment because it looks almost as GB but with lots of glitches on my favorite games and apps, battery drainage, and crashes. I guess I was expecting something more like Vanilla Ice Cream Sandwich. I wish there were no OS fragmentation on stock Android. Something more like iOS. My iPod Touch from two years ago looks exactly the same as my mother's brand new iPhone 4s.
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I have to agree, battery life seems abysmal compared to KK5 2.3.6 or even LA4 (which to me was worse than KK5)
It's good if you got no sync or data but then that's not the point.
ICS is really pretty and all but if I get half a day out of my phone it doesn't matter.
That's from 4 days worth of experience
There are too many variables to say objectively. Like comparing roms & kernels, whether they be GB or ICS. Any comparison will be purely subjective.
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There are too many variables to say objectively. Like comparing roms & kernels, whether they be GB or ICS. Any comparison will be purely subjective.
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I would agree however I have the exact same apps installed as before with the same setup. Only difference is I'm using facelock and I'm playing a little more with the phone because ICS is new but barely. So I'm hoping they get out an update soon that smoothes out the battery life
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i think the difference in terms of battery life between gb and ics is custom kernel. kernels like speedmod or phenomenal 4.0 extreme help alot. since ics has no such kernels ((
i installed ics and i'm pleased that is stable. if u want battery life than my advice - STICK WITH GB
Stand by time is almost the same but when you use the phone either playing with it or whatever ICS eats the battery.
How on earth can you measure battery life when the rom is not even a week old and the battery has not had chance to recalibrate itself .
jje
JJEgan said:
How on earth can you measure battery life when the rom is not even a week old and the battery has not had chance to recalibrate itself .
jje
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Changed to a week now has it, next it'll be a month old
JJEgan said:
How on earth can you measure battery life when the rom is not even a week old and the battery has not had chance to recalibrate itself .
jje
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I don't mean to act like a spoilt kid, but when I'm going to work and using my phone as usual and it starts beeping about low battery ~2hours earlier than usual I feel a bit concerned and that's what I'm voicing out here.
If you have any advice concerning the recalibration and how to accelerate it I'd gladly take it over waiting for weeks.
Also when you're talking about recalibration as necessary, you mean that the phone/battery would think it is at x% when it's in fact at (x+y)% at any time t?
I sure hope that's what it is.

[Q] Was anyone expecting a better battery?

The Galaxy S III unit is certainly big enough. When they said they would improve the battery life on their next Galaxy, I was thinking at least 2,300 mAh. A small gripe, but something to be desired.
I can't complain with 7 hours of screen on time..
How long do you need your phone to last? A bigger battery would always be nice but I'm definitely not complaining. I average around 4-5 hours of screen on time from one charge on complete stock with good brightness. Do we really need more?
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The battery is very good..it`s a smartphone not a nokia 3310
MrIwik said:
How long do you need your phone to last? A bigger battery would always be nice but I'm definitely not complaining. I average around 4-5 hours of screen on time from one charge on complete stock with good brightness. Do we really need more?
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The question is, do we really need less? There's already small 4.3" display phones that run over 3,000 mAh. With the size of this unit, they simply could have taken to task their claim of wanting to improve battery life a little more sufficiently. The more powerful these devices get, the more demanding their battery life is.
Diaze said:
The battery is very good..it`s a smartphone not a nokia 3310
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lol do i miss the days of nokia..my battery used to last almost 4 days. but alas all good things come to an end..its the era of android now nokia iphone and the rest are just old news
megagodx said:
The question is, do we really need less? There's already small 4.3" display phones that run over 3,000 mAh. With the size of this unit, they simply could have taken to task their claim of wanting to improve battery life a little more sufficiently. The more powerful these devices get, the more demanding their battery life is.
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The DROID RAZR also has a non-removable battery which probably contributes to that.
Removable or not, it's still been done. I'm not saying this phone should go 3,000+ mAh; as that would sacrifice body thinness, but they probably had more to work with that they didn't utilize.
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Removable or not, it's still been done. I'm not saying this phone should go 3,000+ mAh; as that would sacrifice body thinness, but they probably had more to work with that they didn't utilize.
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Possibly, but apparently the general population cares more about thin devices than battery life.
Either way, I'm generally not going to use the phone for 7 hours everyday so it makes no difference to me.
Honestly, I expected less than what I am getting from the battery life, so I am more than happy. You also have to remember, battery life is a big selling point for the next models. I am certain they could have easily tweaked the design/battery and given this phone another 10+ hours standby or something like that, but that limits the sales features for the next model. You want to make your new device good but not so good that the next new model doesn't seem as impressive.
Tachikoma_kun said:
Honestly, I expected less than what I am getting from the battery life, so I am more than happy.
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Same. I've been using mine plenty today since 7 in the morning (can't call it heavy usage, but definitely was not "light") and it still has over 60% (its now the end of the day here). Couldn't be happier with the battery.
Well... obviously I could, but I definitely can't complain.
I wish mine was gd too.. but kworker processes are draining my battery life yet no ideas how do resolve yet...
I get 11 hours at 60% yesterday, so that's excellent on stock Rom with all the bloat, sure cm9 Rom at same hours and same use was still 86% and I always leave bt gps wifi and full brightness always on
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Removable or not, it's still been done. I'm not saying this phone should go 3,000+ mAh; as that would sacrifice body thinness, but they probably had more to work with that they didn't utilize.
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Probably Samsung will bring an extended battery(+modified back cover) just like they did with the sgs2... having said that I have no problems the battery life with the stock battery
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Don't forget The SGS3 battery is 3.8v, whereas the SGS2 battery is 3.7. If you look at the watt hours, SGS3 is just under 8, where as stock 1650mah battery is just over 6. 33% increase in batter size!
I'm rooted and running stock Vodafone rom (OTA update), but I've frozen a lot of the rubbish (and installed siyah kernel!). I'm getting very good battery life with 3-5 hours of screen on. Basically, it's not ever once not "got me through the day", even when I first got the phone and I was abusing it.
Standby times could be slightly better, and there are some other issues that are draining battery (fast dormency is a pain in da ass!!), but considering the SGS3 is fresh out the battery life is amazing!
When I use the internet I'm using about 12% of the battery per hour which is pretty damn good and fairly close to S2 so I've got no complaints, and the last update made a noticeable improvement on battery, but the only real complaint is the battery takes over 2 and a half hours to charge so more than ever I do need a spare battery for those times I get caught short on charge.
I noticed a big improvement in battery life with the stock rom I9300XXALF6 + modem I9300XXLF5. Using only for calls, on average, by 10 hours consumes 10% of the battery.
This battery is big and enough for day to day use but when i want to watch some episodes I'm always carrying a backup charger.
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I noticed a big improvement in battery life with the stock rom I9300XXALF6 + modem I9300XXLF5. Using only for calls, on average, by 10 hours consumes 10% of the battery.
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Some here - 1 hour/1% with moderate use (a few calls, messages, random goofing). (att, stock rom, int. version, sync off, auto brightness)
Im quite satisfied, battery is like just as i expected

[Q] What is the best ROM + kernel?

I tried Vigor360, and though I hate Sense, it was.. okay...except battery life was worse than on my Thunderbolt. I've tried flashing different kernels but more problems usually arrise out of the blue and I have NO CLUE which kernels are actually good , good as in they actually male an effort to improve the battery life. I'm currently on a CM9 ROM and holy hell! The keyboard lags and battery life is ATROCIOUS ! I haven't even hardly installed any apps!
I tried Newt's One XXX, v5.1.1 but couldn't stand the minor bugs, but I assume battery life on that ROM is way worse than on Vigor360 (since usually, the higher the version of Sense, the worse it is on the battery) when I had a galaxy Nexus, the picture quality was a joke, but I made it well through the day with it! I'm not getting an extended battery. The phone is thick enough -.-
My current usage is about 7 hours,an hour and a half of screen time, battery is at 7%. I can sort of stand sense 3.6 so long as it isn't theme. What ROM/kernel combo do you guys use to get through the day, or did I make a mistake getting this phone? (No offense)
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I tried Vigor360, and though I hate Sense, it was.. okay...except battery life was worse than on my Thunderbolt. I've tried flashing different kernels but more problems usually arrise out of the blue and I have NO CLUE which kernels are actually good , good as in they actually male an effort to improve the battery life. I'm currently on a CM9 ROM and holy hell! The keyboard lags and battery life is ATROCIOUS ! I haven't even hardly installed any apps!
I tried Newt's One XXX, v5.1.1 but couldn't stand the minor bugs, but I assume battery life on that ROM is way worse than on Vigor360 (since usually, the higher the version of Sense, the worse it is on the battery) when I had a galaxy Nexus, the picture quality was a joke, but I made it well through the day with it! I'm not getting an extended battery. The phone is thick enough -.-
My current usage is about 7 hours,an hour and a half of screen time, battery is at 7%. I can sort of stand sense 3.6 so long as it isn't theme. What ROM/kernel combo do you guys use to get through the day, or did I make a mistake getting this phone? (No offense)
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going to need some things from you:
1. are you s-on or off
2. what firmware are you on
3. do you like sense or aosp more
edit: 7 and 1/2 hours screen time. that is awesome for the REZ. the HD screen is what kills the battery the most. if you can get 7 hours then bravo.
He said he is averaging 7hrs of use with 1.5hrs screen time which is pretty bad. Believe it or not, newts one xxx has probably the best battery life for the rez. I can easily get 14hrs with 3hrs screen time with stock battery. Yesterday I got 17 hrs with 5.5hrs screen time on extended battery. That is probably the best Rom atm and sense 4+ is much more appealing to the eye. All I can say is if you don't like sense, you bought the wrong phone. People will forget about this phone before aosp/aokp is perfected, even though they are making great progress. I can never get any kernels to work right either. Leaving stock kernels is usually best. As with any android phone, you have to work for battery life
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He said he is averaging 7hrs of use with 1.5hrs screen time which is pretty bad. Believe it or not, newts one xxx has probably the best battery life for the rez. I can easily get 14hrs with 3hrs screen time with stock battery. Yesterday I got 17 hrs with 5.5hrs screen time on extended battery. That is probably the best Rom atm and sense 4+ is much more appealing to the eye. All I can say is if you don't like sense, you bought the wrong phone. People will forget about this phone before aosp/aokp is perfected, even though they are making great progress. I can never get any kernels to work right either. Leaving stock kernels is usually best. As with any android phone, you have to work for battery life
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Wow!! The big reason I have this phone is.. well..
Had a Nexus, broke it and sold it for $75, relative let me use an iPhone 4... I lasted a week before caving and bought a Thunderbolt for $90.
I couldn't stand the ancient android OS and the phone was having random data drops, so I got Verizon to replace it with another thunderbolt. The replacement had the same issue + the vibrate motor decided when and when not to work. The guy on the phone was like "well, since you've had several replacements of this phone, we're gonna see about sending g you a different phone to resolve your issues once and for all, but the phone you receive won't come with a battery cover or battery." I told him I had a battery cover and battery for a Rezound and asked if that could be sent to me, he said "sure, we should be able to do that."
This phone killed my 32GB microSD card :'(
I have S-OFF. I prefer AOSP, but they seem get get home horrendous battery life.
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He said he is averaging 7hrs of use with 1.5hrs screen time which is pretty bad. Believe it or not, newts one xxx has probably the best battery life for the rez. I can easily get 14hrs with 3hrs screen time with stock battery. Yesterday I got 17 hrs with 5.5hrs screen time on extended battery. That is probably the best Rom atm and sense 4+ is much more appealing to the eye. All I can say is if you don't like sense, you bought the wrong phone. People will forget about this phone before aosp/aokp is perfected, even though they are making great progress. I can never get any kernels to work right either. Leaving stock kernels is usually best. As with any android phone, you have to work for battery life
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didnt see that lol. sorry. work sucks today.
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I have S-OFF. I prefer AOSP, but they seem get get home horrendous battery life.
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newt's sense 4 roms are great on battery life. but when i moved to cm9 i now get about 18hours of life with a little under 5 hours screen on. im running rage 1.9.1.
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I tried Vigor360, and though I hate Sense, it was.. okay...except battery life was worse than on my Thunderbolt. I've tried flashing different kernels but more problems usually arrise out of the blue and I have NO CLUE which kernels are actually good , good as in they actually male an effort to improve the battery life. I'm currently on a CM9 ROM and holy hell! The keyboard lags and battery life is ATROCIOUS ! I haven't even hardly installed any apps!
I tried Newt's One XXX, v5.1.1 but couldn't stand the minor bugs, but I assume battery life on that ROM is way worse than on Vigor360 (since usually, the higher the version of Sense, the worse it is on the battery) when I had a galaxy Nexus, the picture quality was a joke, but I made it well through the day with it! I'm not getting an extended battery. The phone is thick enough -.-
My current usage is about 7 hours,an hour and a half of screen time, battery is at 7%. I can sort of stand sense 3.6 so long as it isn't theme. What ROM/kernel combo do you guys use to get through the day, or did I make a mistake getting this phone? (No offense)
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When asking for help you usually shouldn't trash every kernel/rom made available to us by our hard working devs. Also, your theory on the sense number being higher = higher battery usage is way false. Sense 4 & sense 4.1 were actually designed to decrease battery usage and lag so I would stick with one of those. Also, try underclocking your cpu and changing governors.
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He said he is averaging 7hrs of use with 1.5hrs screen time which is pretty bad. Believe it or not, newts one xxx has probably the best battery life for the rez. I can easily get 14hrs with 3hrs screen time with stock battery. Yesterday I got 17 hrs with 5.5hrs screen time on extended battery. That is probably the best Rom atm and sense 4+ is much more appealing to the eye. All I can say is if you don't like sense, you bought the wrong phone. People will forget about this phone before aosp/aokp is perfected, even though they are making great progress. I can never get any kernels to work right either. Leaving stock kernels is usually best. As with any android phone, you have to work for battery life
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People need to stop judging battery life based on screen-on time and hours of use. It varies per person depending on how many accs/apps are syncing. I am tired of all this "better battery" and comparing usage time. If you want more battery, stop syncing on all apps/account. I wish people would stop posting screenshots of their usage. It just means they don't use their phone as much in terms of accs and apps running. Stock rom/kernel best for stability.
richii0207 said:
People need to stop judging battery life based on screen-on time and hours of use. It varies per person depending on how many accs/apps are syncing. I am tired of all this "better battery" and comparing usage time. If you want more battery, stop syncing on all apps/account. I wish people would stop posting screenshots of their usage. It just means they don't use their phone as much in terms of accs and apps running. Stock rom/kernel best for stability.
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It might vary somewhat, but screen-on time and total time are still good yardstick level indicators of battery charge longevity. It's not like when you sync your google account your battery only lasts 1/3 as long - it's maybe a 10% difference, depending on your signal strength, if you're on wifi, etc.
Dr. Hax said:
Wow!! The big reason I have this phone is.. well..
Had a Nexus, broke it and sold it for $75, relative let me use an iPhone 4... I lasted a week before caving and bought a Thunderbolt for $90.
I couldn't stand the ancient android OS and the phone was having random data drops, so I got Verizon to replace it with another thunderbolt. The replacement had the same issue + the vibrate motor decided when and when not to work. The guy on the phone was like "well, since you've had several replacements of this phone, we're gonna see about sending g you a different phone to resolve your issues once and for all, but the phone you receive won't come with a battery cover or battery." I told him I had a battery cover and battery for a Rezound and asked if that could be sent to me, he said "sure, we should be able to do that."
This phone killed my 32GB microSD card :'(
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Try reformatting the sd card on your computer via a card reader.
Rage ROM 1.9.1 is a good ROM, nice and smooth. I got about 2 and a half hours of screen on time with that ROM and Snuzzos Funky Kernel. Very nice combination.
If you want to be real fancy you can build a CM10 ROM. There's a guide for it in the Dev section. (Well, the guide is to make CM9, but it's easy to modify the commands to make it build CM10 instead). I get about 3 hours and 15 mins of screen on time on average with the stock battery, no kernel modifications or anything fancy. Brightness is at 25%. I ran it with brightness on 100% for a day and got about 2 hrs and 15 mins of screen on time.
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People need to stop judging battery life based on screen-on time and hours of use. It varies per person depending on how many accs/apps are syncing. I am tired of all this "better battery" and comparing usage time. If you want more battery, stop syncing on all apps/account. I wish people would stop posting screenshots of their usage. It just means they don't use their phone as much in terms of accs and apps running. Stock rom/kernel best for stability.
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As much as you dislike this method of determining battery life, it is really the only way to gauge battery life on a forum. You are right that it also depends on apps syncing and such but a Rom that can get 12hrs with 3hrs screen time is more battery friendly than a Rom that can do that same12hrs but with 1.5hrs screen on time with the same setup and usage.
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How much battery account sync uses is dependent on just how popular you are we have push sync. This isn't Android 1.5 wen're talking about. Push sync uses very little battery.
And sure, I could build a CM10 ROM, but won't it basically be useless cause most things will be broken or barely working?
I've been running it as a daily driver since the 12th. It's surprisingly stable. No random FCs or anything. There are some graphical artifacts while watching streaming video like on YouTube and Project Butter isn't working, but it's still pretty smooth. Bluetooth calling isn't working either, but nor is it on AOSP ICS either. That's pretty much it for problems.
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And just to clarify, I'm not.dissing ROM's or developers, in fact, I'm going to admit, I'm a huge Newtoroot fanboy lol. Maybe its cause I've known of him since the Droid Incredible! But I've been running One XxX Rom for about a day now and battery life is still pretty bad, what are some good Sense kernels for battery life?
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And just to clarify, I'm not.dissing ROM's or developers, in fact, I'm going to admit, I'm a huge Newtoroot fanboy lol. Maybe its cause I've known of him since the Droid Incredible! But I've been running One XxX Rom for about a day now and battery life is still pretty bad, what are some good Sense kernels for battery life?
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Try snuzzo's 1.6rc2 kernel with it . I am on ecliptic Rom, but have run Newts and switched to that kernel on both. It's in his funky kernel thread.
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I have tried all the sense roms and Nilsp business sense 4.0 gives me the best battery life
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I have tried all the sense roms and Nilsp business sense 4.0 gives me the best battery life
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That's good. About average for a sense 4+ Rom
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SteveG12543 said:
Rage ROM 1.9.1 is a good ROM, nice and smooth. I got about 2 and a half hours of screen on time with that ROM and Snuzzos Funky Kernel. Very nice combination.
If you want to be real fancy you can build a CM10 ROM. There's a guide for it in the Dev section. (Well, the guide is to make CM9, but it's easy to modify the commands to make it build CM10 instead). I get about 3 hours and 15 mins of screen on time on average with the stock battery, no kernel modifications or anything fancy. Brightness is at 25%. I ran it with brightness on 100% for a day and got about 2 hrs and 15 mins of screen on time.
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how the heck are you guys getting these ridiculous screen on times with the stock battery?? the best ive ever gotten WITH AND EXTENDED BATTERY is like 3hr screen on time and ~13 hours unplugged with countershrikes AOSP and Funky Kernel
and no where near that with my stock battery
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how the heck are you guys getting these ridiculous screen on times with the stock battery?? the best ive ever gotten WITH AND EXTENDED BATTERY is like 3hr screen on time and ~13 hours unplugged with countershrikes AOSP and Funky Kernel
and no where near that with my stock battery
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I've been wondering that myself lol. I haven't done anything different; same apps, same sync settings, same display brightness, just the ROM + kernel is different. I'm not even undervolted like I was and I'm doing better than before lol... Must be the ROM/stock CM10 kernel I guess.
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