pure CM9 vs CM9 builds like hydrog3n or resurrection - Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

hey guys I'm trying to make my way around to all these roms to try for myself. just wanted to get a headsup on what to expect? what are some differences between pure cm9 and cm9 builds like hydrog3n and resurrection.
like I had cm7 on my sgs1 and it had built in BLN that didnt rape battery, I'm not seeing that on my hydro rom. also getting a weird bug where task manager pops up over lockscreen when unlocking .. anyways ill drop some thanks rep to anyone who gives feedback
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pure cm9 is pure、fast and clean,even without file Exploerer.
Hydrog3n and Resurrection build is based on AOKP,which have more setting about UI and CPU/IO control

soraxd said:
hey guys I'm trying to make my way around to all these roms to try for myself. just wanted to get a headsup on what to expect? what are some differences between pure cm9 and cm9 builds like hydrog3n and resurrection.
like I had cm7 on my sgs1 and it had built in BLN that didnt rape battery, I'm not seeing that on my hydro rom. also getting a weird bug where task manager pops up over lockscreen when unlocking .. anyways ill drop some thanks rep to anyone who gives feedback
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They are all AOSP based, most of the AOSP based ROMs for the SGS2 at least use the device setup from CM9 and usually add their own tweaks and themeing to it, but the overall experience is going to be similar, keep in mind however that CM9 updates on a fairly regular basis (nightlies aren't every night atm, but close) whereas some of these other ROMs may take weeks to incorporate new AOSP features. As for BLN you would need a custom kernel for this, CM stock doesn't currently support it, also on the SGS2 BLN holds a wake lock where on the SGS it did not, this will cause far more drain on the SGS2 than you experienced on the SGS, unfortunately this doesn't appear avoidable.

Pure CM9 > Update Faster
CM9 builds like hydrog3n > Have AOKP, more tweak as the above said
CM9 builds like resurrection > Have AOKP merged with gapps
i dont use google service, just sync contact and mail from Google, so i choose in between hydrog3n and CM9
finally,i choose to use Pure CM9 as it updated faster.

Hydrog3n is a very good rom. A lot of tweak and a cm9 base. But the battery life is not optimized for this time.
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A good place to start here would be to read each ROM's thread. We have enough clutter and non-meaningful conversation as it is. We don't need anymore lazy users asking for the Cliff Notes.
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Possibilty for a pure android ROM?

Would it be possible to get android in it's most purest form. Like the ones you see on Nexus phones and Google phones?
No touch-wiz, Samsung bloatware etc etc...
Just plain android as google made it.
CyanogenMod 7?
have you not heard of AOSP and Cyanogenmod?
I was about to post something similar.
I'm looking with a pure android rom too with the stability and performance of a stock rom, if not better ...
I was looking for the same thing a few months ago.
I don't like cyanogen mod as they add a few things to the menus and applications (and at the time it was only in alpha for GSII) ... I was after a completely stock AOSP rom without any changes.
Then I can across oxygen rom which I use now, it's very stable and is 99% AOSP, there's a few extras but they are hidden in the settings menu, so you wouldn't know it wasn't stock AOSP unless u saw the boot animation or new the AOSP settings menu off by heat.
http://forum.oxygen.im/
Highly recommend it unless anyone else knows of a better 100% AOSP stock rom.
svenerator said:
Would it be possible to get android in it's most purest form. Like the ones you see on Nexus phones and Google phones?
No touch-wiz, Samsung bloatware etc etc...
Just plain android as google made it.
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You just need to look in the development forums.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1183063
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1310479
Cm7 is asop with stuff you would want anyway added.
For example sd card support, oc/uv etc.
Building a aosp rom would mean taking cm7 and removing useful features, you can just take cm7 and make it looks like asop, theres apks for the stock launcher, and themes are not hard to find.
Just remove apks for the dsp etc.
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veyka said:
Cm7 is asop with stuff you would want anyway added.
For example sd card support, oc/uv etc.
Building a aosp rom would mean taking cm7 and removing useful features, you can just take cm7 and make it looks like asop, theres apks for the stock launcher, and themes are not hard to find.
Just remove apks for the dsp etc.
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CM7 is not stable on the S2. I get lockups and freezes everytime I'm in the app drawer.
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nixeon said:
I was looking for the same thing a few months ago.
I don't like cyanogen mod as they add a few things to the menus and applications (and at the time it was only in alpha for GSII) ... I was after a completely stock AOSP rom without any changes.
Then I can across oxygen rom which I use now, it's very stable and is 99% AOSP, there's a few extras but they are hidden in the settings menu, so you wouldn't know it wasn't stock AOSP unless u saw the boot animation or new the AOSP settings menu off by heat.
http://forum.oxygen.im/
Highly recommend it unless anyone else knows of a better 100% AOSP stock rom.
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+1 this. Thanks, after seeing the ICS event, it made me want stock Android again. Can't wait for the source to drop and all our phones get some ICS love.
And a pure aosp rom would have similar problems at first, building a rom without opensource drivers is really hard!
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I've linked him to 2 AOSP ROMs already.

[Q] MIUI Experience

I just flashed MIUI ICS 1.11.9 on my SGS2 and it's quite awesome. Just a few doubts. Firstly what's the difference, other than the framework, btw the stable 2.10.21 and the ICS 1.11.9? I used both and found absolutely no diff other then the strength of the haptic feedback. lol.
Also any feedback on this ROM, your experiences are welcome and I love to know any tip n tricks.
I am currently on the stock kernel that came with the ROM, could someone suggest a better kernel for speed and battery life. I've seen a lot of ppl use Siyah but it seems a little complicated. I loved speedmod but I hear it won't work with CM& or MIUI..
Finally, all apps have and option to run in compatibility mode, which is on by default. Should I leave it this way or turn this off?
MIUI is great, however, I didn't like the part where it doesn't allow you to use multiple phone books with multiple gmail accounts.
You can feel free to use any kernel that works with Cyanogenmod 7. I however recommend the default kernel. As for battery, you can use Juice Defender or something similar, works wonders.
LED Notifications issue!
I can't seem to get LED pulse notifications to work on Galnet MIUI ICS 1.11.9 or stable 2.10.21? Can someone help me out here?
The 'stable' galnet ones have all the Galnet fixes, optimizations and speedtweaks, installed. The weekly release has only some minor speed improvements.

[Q] What is the most basic ROM out there?

I'm currently using SuperNexus and love it. No bloat, pretty much a raw jelly bean OS. Everything works fine. The only thing I'm missing that I really wish I had, was the notification toggles. The app store has some apps that mimic the feature but none of them work the way I like,
So, can anyone tell me which ROM is as basic as SuperNexus, but with the notification toggles integrated?
Temasek's build
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1797109
I will check it out.
I'm sort of confused. A lot of ROMs say they are based off CM10. So is CM10 pretty much the pure Android OS with no extras? I can't find a feature list for CM10.
Yeah its based off AOSP, a lot roms use CM10 as a base depending on what hardware the cm10 was built for
Thanks. I will check out Temaseks in a second.
I am glad I found omega ROM v34, it's a nice try for me & I think I'm gonna stick with it..
Use CM10 for pure android experience. You can install notification toggle mod in your rom too if you only want that feature.
I'm also using SuperNexus too and is a great ROM for a pure stock android experience, I missed the notification toggles too but found this app and it does everything i want and even more check it out is called Notification Toggles
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...EsImRlLmo0dmVsaW4ubm90aWZpY2F0aW9uVG9nZ2xlIl0.
Liquid Smooth ROM
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I would suggest SlimBean! It's truly Basic AOSP with the main features needed! I am loving this ROM and no bugs with it at all. Check out their thread. It is one of my favourite ROMs ever, also they update it frequently.

Touchwiz Vs AOKP based roms?

Ive been messing around with root privileges for a while now, an think its nearly time to flash a new rom to get rid of all the crappy bloatware that comes preinstalled, and just generally get a few more features
What features will i lose if i chose to flash an AOKP rom rather than a modified touchwiz rom? i dont want to be losing NFC, Wifi Direct, Quick toggles or anything like that really if i can help it
Is there any benefit to an AOKP rom other than its an unaltered android experience?
Thanks
DUBS73P said:
Ive been messing around with root privileges for a while now, an think its nearly time to flash a new rom to get rid of all the crappy bloatware that comes preinstalled, and just generally get a few more features
What features will i lose if i chose to flash an AOKP rom rather than a modified touchwiz rom? i dont want to be losing NFC, Wifi Direct, Quick toggles or anything like that really if i can help it
Is there any benefit to an AOKP rom other than its an unaltered android experience?
Thanks
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From my experience AOKP roms are usually noticeably faster to switch between apps, to launch apps, multitask, and the home button lag is almost inexistent so they are really quick doing most of the stuff, there is a NFC fix somewhere around here in XDA I think most of the fixes you can find them on the Paranoid Android rom or the Super Nexus rom. On the other side... With the sammy roms you get all the cool extra features AND the camera! That they really come in handy most of the time!
Touchwiz is a ... Samsung ROM (sammy) launcher , AOKP is a ROM series based on CM anyway we've got and above description is more then enough . You better visit those threads to complete your doubts instead opening a new thread . AOKP = android open kang project
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Alternative to SuperNexus (AOSP look and feel) but Samsung stock-based

I have been using SuperNexus Build 5 for a few months now: great ROM, very light and super stable.
But obviously, being AOSP-based, I miss the Samsung proprietary features (radio, better camera, etc.)
I'm wondering if there is any ROM based on Samsung stock (and therefore incorporating all the Samsung features) providing plain vanilla Android experience, just like on Google's Nexus devices, as SuperNexus does.
I've tried CodecROM, but it is still too heavily themed for my taste.
Try installing those mods on InsertCoin
Customized ROM Cleaner
4.2 Apps
JB Domination
Tried http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2005845 ?
Frag1le said:
Tried http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2005845 ?
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I'll definitely give it a try.
Thanks!
FoxHound 1.6
degiovab said:
I have been using SuperNexus Build 5 for a few months now: great ROM, very light and super stable.
But obviously, being AOSP-based, I miss the Samsung proprietary features (radio, better camera, etc.)
I'm wondering if there is any ROM based on Samsung stock (and therefore incorporating all the Samsung features) providing plain vanilla Android experience, just like on Google's Nexus devices, as SuperNexus does.
I've tried CodecROM, but it is still too heavily themed for my taste.
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I'm using FoxHound Rising 1.6 right now since last friday and I have to say that It's really nice, provide Aroma Installer a lot o tweaks and a nice Original Android look and feel. I can use the FM radio, it brings updated google apps and all the Sammy's features that I tried until now works.
The only bug that I've found is when I tried to add an event for a contact like a birthday, the contact app got a FC.
All the rest are fine until now.
Here you can read about the features http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1708371
If you want to try it you can get it from here http://www.gearengine.it/?dl_name=http://www.gearengine.it/wordpress/FoxHound/GSIII/FoxHound_Rising_1.6_Full-Essential_JellyBean.zip.
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degiovab said:
I have been using SuperNexus Build 5 for a few months now: great ROM, very light and super stable.
But obviously, being AOSP-based, I miss the Samsung proprietary features (radio, better camera, etc.)
I'm wondering if there is any ROM based on Samsung stock (and therefore incorporating all the Samsung features) providing plain vanilla Android experience, just like on Google's Nexus devices, as SuperNexus does.
I've tried CodecROM, but it is still too heavily themed for my taste.
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You should try ultimarom. It exactly what you are looking for. On flashing you can select which app you want and which you don't.
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Try using any of the Sammy based roms and use holo locker and holo launcher. That's what I do and I haven't looked back.
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xmrenegade7 said:
Try using any of the Sammy based roms and use holo locker and holo launcher. That's what I do and I haven't looked back.
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but it won't change settings and other apps
rl421403 said:
You should try ultimarom. It exactly what you are looking for. On flashing you can select which app you want and which you don't.
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Wow! Tried UltimaROM v8.0 and I love it!
Thanks a lot for the suggestion! :good:
degiovab said:
Wow! Tried UltimaROM v8.0 and I love it!
Thanks a lot for the suggestion! :good:
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I had been using UltimaROM for the same reason you are.
Before UltimaROM, I tried almost all roms here but I could not find anyone that close. It's a great rom.
Right now I am trying SuperNexus 2 rom from last 2-3 days. It's very light and feels very smooth. You might want to try it if you are romholic.
rl421403 said:
Right now I am trying SuperNexus 2 rom from last 2-3 days. It's very light and feels very smooth. You might want to try it if you are romholic.
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Indeed I tried SuperNexus 2 (since I've been using SuperNexus Build 5 for months I'm a huge fan of Faryaab's work), but the way Android 4.2.1 manages the sdcard is awful (I do not really believe multiuser is needed for a smartphone... maybe it's useful for tablets).
Overall I could not find any significant improvement with 4.2.1 so I decided to stay with 4.1.2 and UltimaROM seems to me the best 4.1.2 Samsung-stock based rom with possibility to get AOSP look and feel (and now I have radio, working camera, voice recorder, etc.).
Thanks again!
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(and now I have radio, working camera, voice recorder, etc.).
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Yep, I miss that too.
I will be re-flashing Ultima this weekend.
alternative to stock rom
I really don't like the stock look of the phone. The lockscreen is the only exception. So, I'm exactly looking to go as much as possible away from stock Samsung appearances.
I recently used UltimaRom, which I believe is one of the best I've tried so far, but the stock dialer, contacts etc menus made me go back to Resurrection Remix or ReVOLT tipe of roms. Now, because I'm new at this whole customization thing I'll put some possibly silly questions below.
Here we go:
1. Can I put stock samsung apps like radio, s memos etc, etc. on a random rom? That way to avoid changing the whole rom.
2. What is a AOKP based rom and is that the type of rom I should look for? RRemix and Revolt both are AOKP based roms and their appearance is nice, but i experience fc's with them. There two roms have different dialer, contacts and during call look that I like better that any stock rom.
3. It is possible to use Sammy-based rom and just somehow replace the terrible menus with the menus from like RR and Revolt, but keep their custom looks.
I am struggling already few weeks to find working, lite, fast rom, that will be as far as possible from samsung-based roms, but at the same time stable and reliable daily driver.
I'm am not so much into experimenting with roms, more into finding one and sticking with it from that point on. I tried a lot of roms already - RR,Revolt, MIUI, UltimaRom and others. They are all either stock but stable or pretty customized but experimental. Please give me some advice.
Thanks.
Samsung Galaxy S3 I9300
xmrenegade7 said:
Try using any of the Sammy based roms and use holo locker and holo launcher. That's what I do and I haven't looked back.
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That's not the same thing at all...
gneus said:
2. What is a AOKP based rom and is that the type of rom I should look for? RRemix and Revolt both are AOKP based roms and their appearance is nice, but i experience fc's with them. There two roms have different dialer, contacts and during call look that I like better that any stock rom.
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AOKP (android open kang project)/AOSP (android open sorce project) is base android platform. And AOKP/AOSP based roms means they use base Android platform and add some additional features from their own like adding some apps or some theme/styling. If you like vanilla android look then you should try CM10.1 because that's base of most AOSP based roms.
gneus said:
1. Can I put stock samsung apps like radio, s memos etc, etc. on a random rom? That way to avoid changing the whole rom.
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Samsung phone apps will only work on samsung based roms. They will not work on other roms because samsung based apps only work with touchwiz framework (by samsung) and unless you add touchwiz framework support in other roms, apps simply will not work and you will experience FC. But there are always alternative apps available, so I don't think it's a big deal.
gneus said:
3. It is possible to use Sammy-based rom and just somehow replace the terrible menus with the menus from like RR and Revolt, but keep their custom looks.
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There is also a themeing platform for Samsung based roms, it's JB DOMINATION if I am not wrong. This framework styles some general elements in samsung rom to provide feeling of AOSP platform. Rom developers used this framework and styled their rom to develop a good balance between samsung features with AOSP looks.
If you are a developer, you can try modifying any rom but if you are looking for a existing samsung rom to completely look like AOSP then you are out of luck. I don't think there is one.
As I mentioned above, if you are fond of AOSP looks then you might want to try CM10.1 rom. You will get clean android system.
I have tried many roms in past 3 months and I can only vouch for CM10.1 and SuperNexus 2. Both of these are good roms and do not include any unnecessary apps or styling. But give you great Android experience.

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