Difference between JuopunutBear Hboot and Eng Hboot - HTC Amaze 4G

Hey guys I wanna know the differrence between the two. Thanks in advance
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I believe an eng hboot is an engineering hboot so it has more freedom to flash different images I may be wrong but that was what I read. And it has more options in fastboot and bootloader mode. Heard it is easier to brick with it though.
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ebatr8 said:
I believe an eng hboot is an engineering hboot so it has more freedom to flash different images I may be wrong but that was what I read. And it has more options in fastboot and bootloader mode. Heard it is easier to brick with it though.
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S-OFF alone makes it easier to brick. I don't think it really matters what HBOOT it is as long as you're S-OFF. ENG from what I understand, has more advanced fastboot commands.

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[Q] How to tell...

the difference between eng hboot and ship hboot? I need to unroot and s-on but i dont know if i have the eng hboot
It's a good idea to just use the latest RUU before unrooting, that way you know for sure everything is how it needs to be.
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YoMaMa7467 said:
the difference between eng hboot and ship hboot? I need to unroot and s-on but i dont know if i have the eng hboot
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The easiest way I can think of would be to compare the version numbers it shows at the top of the bootloader screen.
The second way which comes to mind would be to examine the type of information it dumps from certain commands. This is probably a less than ideal approach.
xHausx said:
It's a good idea to just use the latest RUU before unrooting, that way you know for sure everything is how it needs to be.
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couldn't agree more! latest RUU is available at: http://www.goo-inside.me/shooter/ruu
Rght know I have the 1.4 hboot which ruu keeps that hboot while making it stock? Also thanks for all the help guys really appreciate it.
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Engine h-boot and revolutionary h-boot

I currently have the eng h-boot I ran revolutionary many months ago and then flash the eng h-boot. My question is this can I flash back to the revolutionary h-boot without running revolutionary and will I lose s-off? I tried searching but I'm on the xda app and could not find what I was looking for. Thank you in advance for any help
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mjohnson4580 said:
I currently have the eng h-boot I ran revolutionary many months ago and then flash the eng h-boot. My question is this can I flash back to the revolutionary h-boot without running revolutionary and will I lose s-off? I tried searching but I'm on the xda app and could not find what I was looking for. Thank you in advance for any help
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I don't know about getting back to the revolutionary hboot, but you can get back to the hboot that's almost the exact same as revolutionary, hboot1.4, by flashing a pg86img.zip through your bootloader. If you haven't had any issues with the ENG bootloader, there's no reason to need to change it though. It's up to you.
here's a link to both the hboot1.4 and eng hboot (just choose the one you want to download, both of them are in first post) http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1192306

new bootloader question

i know i have been around long enough to know this but for some reason i can't think of the answer. i have rooted many phones and am content with flashing roms and thats about it. i have the new 2.89 firmware with the stock ics rom from virus and can't figure out, if i am already s-off but my new bootloader is locked is there a reason to want to unlock the bootloader if i am already s-off? i never really paid attention if it was locked before.
S-off > locked, so you're good to go.
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Any benefit to s-off AND unlocked?
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sand1303 said:
Any benefit to s-off AND unlocked?
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Could be, but none that I know of.
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flash Juopunutbear hboot from: http://unlimited.io/hboot-downloads/
The JB hboot is similar to an Unlocked bootloader, but supports more commands & doesn't need you to unlock the bootloader via HTC Dev.
Since you are S Off, you can flash hboots & don't ever need to unlock via HTC dev again.
kgs1992 said:
flash Juopunutbear hboot from: http://unlimited.io/hboot-downloads/
The JB hboot is similar to an Unlocked bootloader, but supports more commands & doesn't need you to unlock the bootloader via HTC Dev.
Since you are S Off, you can flash hboots & don't ever need to unlock via HTC dev again.
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It's hboot method work in ICS?
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Roca22 said:
It's hboot method work in ICS?
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Yes. The wire trick still works to get s-off.
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Eng hboot 2.27?

i was wondering if there is an eng hboot 2.27 or a patched version that allows fastboot commands? i like my bootloader to say locked but had to unlock it after upgrading my firmware.
keolawills said:
i was wondering if there is an eng hboot 2.27 or a patched version that allows fastboot commands? i like my bootloader to say locked but had to unlock it after upgrading my firmware.
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2.27 hboot? latest i know of is 2.25..... is this the latest ota for global capabilities?
antp121 said:
2.27 hboot? latest i know of is 2.25..... is this the latest ota for global capabilities?
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Yup. I'm watching unlimited.io like a hawk.
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will you post something when/if there is one available?
Honestly, I found a locked s-off hboot to be sufficient. The only thing I can't do is flash recovery, so I keep TWRPs PH98IMG.zip on hand. Fastboot isn't needed that much after s-off.
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spitzaf said:
Honestly, I found a locked s-off hboot to be sufficient. The only thing I can't do is flash recovery, so I keep TWRPs PH98IMG.zip on hand. Fastboot isn't needed that much after s-off.
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I use fast boot frequently actually. Much easier imo. I know there are ways around not having to use fast boot commands but it can be a pita. Don't matter really since I unlocked my bootloader and i can get it to say locked again.
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Snuzzo said:
Yup. I'm watching unlimited.io like a hawk.
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What exactly are you waiting for?
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SR3TLAW said:
What exactly are you waiting for?
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A new juopunutbear hboot. Itll open the phone up again! Untill then, you cant have eng commands on the latest ota
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antp121 said:
A new juopunutbear hboot. Itll open the phone up again! Untill then, you cant have eng commands on the latest ota
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you can use fastboot commands you just have to be unlocked through htcdev.
keolawills said:
you can use fastboot commands you just have to be unlocked through htcdev.
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Why unlock if s-off?
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keolawills said:
you can use fastboot commands you just have to be unlocked through htcdev.
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you need an eng hboot to do fast boot commands. thats why they are still using 2.25 and not 2.27
synisterwolf said:
you need an eng hboot to do fast boot commands. thats why they are still using 2.25 and not 2.27
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Yep...the jbear 2.25 works fine on the update. Have it on mine currently. I also made a zip to flash back to 2.27...lol
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Yep...the jbear 2.25 works fine on the update. Have it on mine currently. I also made a zip to flash back to 2.27...lol
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i wonder what they did from 2.25 to 2.27. idk if the GSM ability needed something in hboot to make our phone a global phone or not.
If there are any devs out there that want to chime in, im all ears. i want to know what the difference is if they know.

Can you simply flash lower hboot version if you're s-off?

I'm on 1.53.0007 and I just got s-off with the wire trick. Does that mean I can just flash a lower hboot version without trouble?
yes you can
Any hboot you desire.
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Without trouble
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Yes. There is a thread with all hboots just flash via bootloader
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