I just bought the Atrix 2 today
Could someone tell me why there is little to no support for ics on the Atrix 2? I thought the hardware was pretty much the same as the Atrix 4G which is the basis for most of the work done on the photon.
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tsdeaton said:
I just bought the Atrix 2 today
Could someone tell me why there is little to no support for ics on the Atrix 2? I thought the hardware was pretty much the same as the Atrix 4G which is the basis for most of the work done on the photon.
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The atrix 2 actually has very different hardware. Atrix 1 has tegra 2, and atrix 2 has a TI Omap processor.
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The atrix 2 actually has very different hardware. Atrix 1 has tegra 2, and atrix 2 has a TI Omap processor.
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Wow thanks! Last time I read anything on the Atrix 2 was before it came out and I swear they said it was going to have the same tegra 2 as the first Atrix and the photon. Do you know anything about this processor? Most of the devs on the Atrix 2 forum are first timers and progress for ics is horribly slow. One of the slowest of any current high end popular phone (that I've noticed). Calling and texting seem to be the only thing keeping it in pre alpha stage.
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Ok I just found out what's holding them back. They can't seem to figure out how to unlock the bootloader. Once that's unlocked roms should start flying
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Same processor as Bionic, RAZR, and Droid 4. Moto tend to go for consistent hardware platforms across multiple carriers and form factors.
Those bootloaders are a *****.
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Yea I've noticed lol.
I have one more question then I'll finish off this thread.
They said the calling and SMS not working on cm9 is due to not having an ics radio. I don't understand why the radio would be the issue. Every device I have right now running ics is using a gingerbread radio and the calling and SMS has always worked from the beginning without a ics radio.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1427026
This is the closest thing the Atrix 2 has to an ics build. Its a port from the cdma Droid 3. Its extremely early with only 10 pages. From what I've gathered they can't seem to get the rom to work with their GSM radio. I know this isn't the right place to be discussing this considering this is not the atrix 2 and nowhere near related to the Atrix 2 but out of all the phones I've had, the devs and users on the photon seem to be the most knowledgeable. We need someone with knowledge of this sorta of thing to help get this phone going. What steps should they go through to convert the cdma rom for their GSM device? I haven't had sleep in two days so I can't seem to word this right lol so please if you have the time could someone who knows anything about this sorta thing take a look. Just read the first 2 pages. The other 8 pages are just random people asking if its working yet lol.
They seem to have given up for the most part and decided to just wait for a leak of ics for the device which according to Motorola is during the same quarter as the photon. I honestly believe they could have it up and going without the leak. Joker did it with the Atrix and the photon with no Motorola ics support so I know they can do it too for the Atrix 2
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So I'm hoping when the verizon atrix hits soon we'll be getting more dev support. What do you guys think?
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i really don't think their will be because of the bionic but hopefully they are similar enough so that we can cross-develop if thats the right word
Right but if the bionic has a similar boot loader it could help, but they are supposed to be getting a verizon atrix.I figure since there are more devs on verizon phones we might get a big push.
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Right but if the bionic has a similar boot loader it could help, but they are supposed to be getting a verizon atrix.I figure since there are more devs on verizon phones we might get a big push.
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I really hope verizon has more sense then to take the atrix as well as the bionic..
Check out the android community news, there going to be releasing the droid 3 and the atrix soon.
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yea I saw it after posting I'll be calling my CSR monday morning and talking her into releasing me from my contract or giving me some concessions to stay pretty sure verizon's version will be better supported on all fronts
hey the motorola photon its official, its like atrix BUT it supose had UNLOCKED BOOTLOADER!!!! and GingerBread so wtf with atrix... IMO photon should be the atrix
this its the source
http://www.androidcentral.com/motorola-photon-4g-has-unlocked-bootloader-sports-gorilla-glass
U might wna hold up on bn happy bout that. Droid life says hold on before celebrating they have new details
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from motorola..
Motorola: While the Motorola PHOTON 4G software does not include an unlockable/relockable bootloader, we intend to include this feature in software releases starting in late 2011 where operator and channel partners will allow it. Apologies for any confusion.
This does not mean they will unlock the Atrix bootloader
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1117273
Photon is on lockdown too... read up...
http://www.androidcentral.com/motorola-photon-4g-initial-hands
bump...
Is it bad that I'm happy it's just as crippled as our phone? Kind of like "Hahahaha now you know how I feel."
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Motorola: While the Motorola PHOTON 4G software does not include an unlockable/relockable bootloader, we intend to include this feature in software releases starting in late 2011 where operator and channel partners will allow it. Apologies for any confusion.
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That would probably be one of the major selling points of the incoming Motorola handsets in late 2011, so we can expect unlockable software on Atrix after approximately 3 to 6 months?
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Never knows but for now no more motorola for me, the thing its I love htc but they don't make so many phones for at&t bands that are for ny country so I'm kind stuck.
Perhaps a new light appear,i will transfer ny data plan(stupid carrier its expensive cancel the contract) now I need sell my atrix and buy the evo 3D
Thanks motorola I trust in you...
Don't take me wrong I do like the phone, its amazing fast,i like entertainment center.but I don't like what motorola do to keep customers...not sure if they will unlock bootloader late like they said I don't trust anymore
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Is the Evo 3d locked too? I assume that's the phone people on Sprint will be buying either way.
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People on Sprint would have bought it regardless. Just because it has the word EVO in it.
But HTC caved and is unlocking bootloaders.
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Htc is shipping dev's s-off sensations (unlocked bootloaders).
Really sucks to be on moto at the moment, so much potential!
Swyped from 'mount' Olympus
Bye Motorola. Can't wait to sell my Atrix. Enough of this.
^ So what would you move to?...
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Why wait, there is Craigslist and Ebay.
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^ So what would you move to?...
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Waiting for the HTC Sensation to support the bands used by major Canadian providers (850/1900). As soon as it drops I'm getting rid of my Atrix!
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Waiting for the HTC Sensation to support the bands used by major Canadian providers (850/1900). As soon as it drops I'm getting rid of my Atrix!
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Wait sensation works with 850? that are at&t bands right?i though was for tmo bands (aws)
I was looking for evo 3D
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Hopefully galaxy s2 is not to far off for att. At the moment atrix is the best on our network. I'll jump ship once something better comes along or Motorola wakes up and opens there devices up. I'll never buy another moto device till they do
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Wait sensation works with 850? that are at&t bands right?i though was for tmo bands (aws)
I was looking for evo 3D
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Read it again, buddy. I'm waiting for a version to be released that has 850/1900 3G bands. I'm scouring the internet waiting to hear more news about the Sensation or Evo 3D to be released with these bands for 3G so I can ditch the Atrix.
This is a great phone and all but I only got it to tide me over until something better came along. I had an HTC Desire Z before. And I liked it a lot better than the Atrix. Ah well... hopefully I don't have to wait much longer. I'd keep this phone if the bootloader were unlocked but it looks like there isn't much promise (yes, following the threads in the Dev forum but it looks like a ways off still).
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Read it again, buddy. I'm waiting for a version to be released that has 850/1900 3G bands. I'm scouring the internet waiting to hear more news about the Sensation or Evo 3D to be released with these bands for 3G so I can ditch the Atrix.
This is a great phone and all but I only got it to tide me over until something better came along. I had an HTC Desire Z before. And I liked it a lot better than the Atrix. Ah well... hopefully I don't have to wait much longer. I'd keep this phone if the bootloader were unlocked but it looks like there isn't much promise (yes, following the threads in the Dev forum but it looks like a ways off still).
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Oh sorry I miss read, yeah I'm young that too since I have no more options in carrier seems I can get the evo working so I will jump from the boat, I take this because power of 2 cores and promise from moto to work in bootloader, the phone its great but stuck in froyo until moto wants, and when we get gb, we must wait to see ice cream when with unlocked bootloader we can have ics no more moto for me
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Hey people!!
Just wanted to know if I can be lucky and run this baby in India on a GSM network?
If so, how and what do I need?
Someone is coming from USA...but what about the contract with Verizon??
And performance wise which is better X1, X2 RAZR or Bionic??
Thanx!
You can't run this phone on a GSM network, it is a CDMA phone.
Contracts from foreign countries are something you need not worry about.
I suggest the Droid 2 Global for use on a GSM network. My dad has one and it's great.
I think the only one of those that is a "world phone" is the Droid RAZR. All the others are CDMA (and LTE in the case of the Bionic which does take a SIM card but only for LTE). Droid RAZR seems to be GSM compatible, and has the same specs as the Bionic, as well as an improved screen.
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I think the only one of those that is a "world phone" is the Droid RAZR. All the others are CDMA (and LTE in the case of the Bionic which does take a SIM card but only for LTE). Droid RAZR seems to be GSM compatible, and has the same specs as the Bionic, as well as an improved screen.
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donlad said:
You can't run this phone on a GSM network, it is a CDMA phone.
Contracts from foreign countries are something you need not worry about.
I suggest the Droid 2 Global for use on a GSM network. My dad has one and it's great.
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RAZR is a good option...but my question is how do I run it here as it will be Verzion locked?
Also, if i unlock it, will I get official updates to next Android OS?
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RAZR is a good option...but my question is how do I run it here as it will be Verzion locked?
Also, if i unlock it, will I get official updates to next Android OS?
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Call up Verizon and say you'll be out of the country and need it unlocked. And unlocked wont do anything to updates, if you root it probably will though
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Get a Droid 3. Problem solved
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Call up Verizon and say you'll be out of the country and need it unlocked. And unlocked wont do anything to updates, if you root it probably will though
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and wont they charge me for it and also why would Verizon just give me one like that? Some under the table negotiations?
Also, performance wise, which is better?
RAZR or Droid X2 pr Bionic?
I dont like Droid 3 sorry..
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and wont they charge me for it and also why would Verizon just give me one like that? Some under the table negotiations?
Also, performance wise, which is better?
RAZR or Droid X2 pr Bionic?
I dont like Droid 3 sorry..
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I don't think there's fees, just one of the perks of having a world phone, and I would say either bionic or raze, x2 only has half the ram.
Or why not an attic, basically same as bionic but gsm
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I don't think there's fees, just one of the perks of having a world phone, and I would say either bionic or raze, x2 only has half the ram.
Or why not an attic, basically same as bionic but gsm
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He's right. Go with an already GSM phone if you're going to use on GSM. Motorola Atrix is Tegra 2 like Droid X2 but with more RAM, and Atrix 2 is TI OMAP4 like D3, Bionic, and RAZR, and has an improved screen over DX2, D3, and Bionic.
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He's right. Go with an already GSM phone if you're going to use on GSM. Motorola Atrix is Tegra 2 like Droid X2 but with more RAM, and Atrix 2 is TI OMAP4 like D3, Bionic, and RAZR, and has an improved screen over DX2, D3, and Bionic.
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also the og atrix has an UNLOCKED BOOTLOADER!
Lastly, the Razr isn't even available yet, lol. You are going to have an issue with a phone that doesn't exist, at least not physically in your hands.
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Lastly, the Razr isn't even available yet, lol. You are going to have an issue with a phone that doesn't exist, at least not physically in your hands.
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I lol'd. Srsly I don't think the RAZR Is even globabl capable, if you want a strong phone that's global I'd say Atrix or D3. Bionic and Razr prety much the same, 200 mhz difference which I'm sure is a result of the Bionic being underclocked. Im sure that'll be fixed soon since the source code has been released. Razr does have super amoled but it also is pentile, same w/ the Nexus Prime. Built in Battery in the Razr for me no bueno, and no SD card on the Nexus = da fuq.
They announced there will be European and possibly Asian versions, but it could be like what they did for the Droid 1, made 2 different phones that looked the same with different antenna's, Droid and Milestone. Either way, launch is what 2-3 weeks away, lol.
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They announced there will be European and possibly Asian versions, but it could be like what they did for the Droid 1, made 2 different phones that looked the same with different antenna's, Droid and Milestone. Either way, launch is what 2-3 weeks away, lol.
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thanx everyone...just one more question since this member mentioned it...will thee be ANY sort of difference in the hardware./software jn the Asian versions? Ofwoyherthe razor or bionic??
Thanx...i guess will have to go back to the age old game of waiting and watching...
I don't think they have released that info yet. You might want to check with your carrier.
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I don't think they have released that info yet. You might want to check with your carrier.
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Carriers in India aren't that strong a player...but I will keep a check...also, the Droid X2 is cool, but CDMA...anyway to get that working outside the current network...? I mean it will be Verizon, but here it will be Reliance...so anyway to get that working here..?
I would say, tell your friend to call Verizon and ask to have it unlocked. Once he/she gets to India they will have to give the MEID/ESN numbers to Reliance. Then, will probably have to open new service with them and get a new number. Verizon uses a specific spectrum range for CDMA, thus why the phone doesn't work on Sprint's CDMA network. The phone may, or may not be compatible with Reliance CDMA, but I could be wrong.
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I would say, tell your friend to call Verizon and ask to have it unlocked. Once he/she gets to India they will have to give the MEID/ESN numbers to Reliance. Then, will probably have to open new service with them and get a new number. Verizon uses a specific spectrum range for CDMA, thus why the phone doesn't work on Sprint's CDMA network. The phone may, or may not be compatible with Reliance CDMA, but I could be wrong.
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thanx! That helped me make my decision...Droid RAZR or Bionic. Mostly it will be RAZR.
In India, CDMA isn't as strong as GSM. Anyways...thanx everyone who replied. Every answer waw helpful. Just a question, more to myself than to U guys, why would Motorola make such a cool device wig CDMA technology and not GSM?
Anyways...
Verizon outweighs all GSM competitors in the US. They know the users typically who want the most bang for their buck android device want it on Verizon before with 3G CDMA and now 4G LTE and CDMA. Our GSM providers are horrible.
coming from sprint with a evo 4g, I am looking foward to all the roms to come soon (i hope) this is an AWESOME phone imo, only downside it didn't come with a SD card.
When is ICS suppose to come out?
... dont start please the phone JUST released.... like litterally a day ago... we have no idea lol fyi i still have my et4g on sprint lol
I still have my evo for now..probably goimg to let my mom use it since she's using a hero.
Lol I've read no later than march 31
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Lol I've read no later than march 31
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That's for the International Note. Completely different. Since they have the Exynos 1.4GHz processor, and we have the Qualcomm Snapdragon 1.5GHz processor, the ICS for the International Note will be mostly useless to us.
Coming from previous US Samsung phones on AT&T, we will be at least 3 months behind the international version due to the fact that our devices are carrier locked, therefore AT&T has to have its go at the device and add all of the bloatware to it. It definitely sucks, but it's something we have to deal with.
Hopefully somebody can pull some ish with our Notes like LinuxBozo did for the Infuse with his HellRaiser program. If not, we are at the will of AT&T.
***UPDATE 6/26/2012***
Ok, not all the info that I got before was 100% correct. It looks like RAZR / MAXX is unlocked only for Global(GSM) use which is outside of USA. The Tmobile and ATT sims are not fully working as of right now.
We have couple amazing Devs which are working to resolve this issue.
Please PM me if you want me to update the OP.
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On the Bionic forum people found a way to activate disabled feature of couple 4g verizon phones to be able to use it on GSM networks.
Can someone test it please?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1297714
***UPDATE***
Follow this steps to make it work: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=25967009&postcount=118
Amazing...no one here has any interest in this? maybe you should have posted in the development section. This is great news if it gets working on the razr.
I posted this earlier...as far as I know it's still a work in progress but very cool nonetheless.
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Welp the Bionic can't do it for sure. Doesn't have a GSM radio... at all.
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Actually the Bionic does have a GSM radio.
The Razr, 4, Bionic all have the same Qualcomm global radio and a separate LTE radio.
The only thing preventing the Razr, Droid 4 or Bionic from connecting to GSM is the firmware.
The Droid 4 is scheduled for GSM upgrade.
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Actually the Bionic does have a GSM radio.
The Razr, 4, Bionic all have the same Qualcomm global radio and a separate LTE radio.
The only thing preventing the Razr, Droid 4 or Bionic from connecting to GSM is the firmware.
The Droid 4 is scheduled for GSM upgrade.
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I stand corrected. Well played.
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I was under the impression that we just needed the unlock code. Once we have it from say...att, then we put the sim in,enter the code and good to go...maybe its not that easy but on YouTube it looks pretty close lol.
As far as I know it's not that easy due to the fact that the GSM modem itself is disabled. Unless your talking about roaming onto the LTE network. Though ATT uses different frequencies.
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I was really surprised that people did not accept this news well. I was extremely happy to hear that we can use our phones with GSM providers since I am planing to travel soon.
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Actually if you have read the whole thread in the OP link. People are successfully using their phones in Brazil.
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Yeah. No thought about lte if I had to use GSM. I feel dumb as that's the entire point of the maxx being called a global phone lol. There's a video and it is really easy to do.
i just did it and is working perfect
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okay, I'll bite.
How to enable?
This is good news been wanting to try a maxx on att
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i just did it and is working perfect
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I think people will highly appreciate if you provide more detailed information, because there should be some differences in this hack between RAZR and Bionic.
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okay, I'll bite.
How to enable?
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Can you share that knowledge in your tech head with us too.
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this is exactly what i did and now is recognizing an at&t (old desactivated) and a tmobile sim(old desactivated) card but i need to test with an activated one. i noticed with the tmobile one a gsm networks setting appeared on my menu.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1297714&page=3
see post 29 & 30
by the way the razr needs to be running gb i was on ics leak but i didnt find any charge only mode or pc mode.
i went back to ics leak and seem to still working but like i said i need to test and activated sim card
before people start to flame im not taking credit and im not interested on any im just sharing what i did.
one more thing this is radiocomn software link:
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/6725402/RadioComm_v11.12.2_Install.msi
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this is exactly what i did and now is recognizing an at&t (old desactivated) and a tmobile sim(old desactivated) card but i need to test with an activated one. i noticed with the tmobile one a gsm networks setting appeared on my menu.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1297714&page=3
see post 29 & 30
by the way the razr needs to be running gb i was on ics leak but i didnt find any charge only mode or pc mode.
i went back to ics leak and seem to still working but like i said i need to test and activated sim card
before people start to flame im not taking credit and im not interested on any im just sharing what i did.
one more thing this is radiocomn software link:
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/6725402/RadioComm_v11.12.2_Install.msi
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Thank you I will follow it later on.
this could get interesting
Okay so, here's my predicament..I'm currently using an Atrix 2 with a regular sized SIM card and wanted to test this out on a busted VZW Razr I got from work (there's a huge crack in the screen and it was just collecting dust). If I went into an AT&T store and bought a micro-SIM, would it work?
The only reason I'm confused is because all I know that AT&T uses the micro-SIMs for is the iPad; I don't know if the structure of the SIM card changes to accomodate just data, or if voice will be able to be transmitted as well.