Bootloader unlock without voiding HTC warrenty? - HTC Amaze 4G

*Saw this earlier... was wondering if anyone has tried this with our Amaze yet?
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Original thread with link to download
And if anyone hasn't tried it...anyone willing? haha
I really want to give some custom ROMs a go but i'm a little weary about voiding the warranty on my brand spankin' new amaze
*** Looks like it doesn't work for the amaze... bleh going to unlock with htcdev I guess

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I guess I dont understand why anyone would jump through those hoops on the Amaze when you can very easily unlock the bootloader of the Amaze using HTC Dev, and its fully reversible by loading a stock RUU back on the phone. I can see the benefit of this for a phone that doesnt already have a method of unlocking, such as the Evo3D on Hboot 1.5. But again, I guess I dont understand what purpose does this serve for the Amaze?
I had an Evo4G that i had rooted forever, and very easily put it back to stock every time I needed to take it back to the store for a 'mechanical malfunction'. The guys in the store even knew what I had done, but said that the manufacturer cant really tell it was rooted, nor will they really care cause theyre just going to overwrite the flash anyways.

usafmaverick said:
I guess I dont understand why anyone would jump through those hoops on the Amaze when you can very easily unlock the bootloader of the Amaze using HTC Dev, and its fully reversible by loading a stock RUU back on the phone. I can see the benefit of this for a phone that doesnt already have a method of unlocking, such as the Evo3D on Hboot 1.5. But again, I guess I dont understand what purpose does this serve for the Amaze?
I had an Evo4G that i had rooted forever, and very easily put it back to stock every time I needed to take it back to the store for a 'mechanical malfunction'. The guys in the store even knew what I had done, but said that the manufacturer cant really tell it was rooted, nor will they really care cause theyre just going to overwrite the flash anyways.
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The entire purpose of the HTCdev unlock tool (and the reason it's online) is so that HTC can keep a database of exactly WHICH phones have been unlocked... this is done for warranty reasons (Can't have people bricking their phones messing with them, then sending them back under warranty)
The benefit is that you unlock without HTC having any idea that you actually unlocked... at least as far as I know... I'm new to this scene so honestly I could be wrong.. but that's what i get out of it after reading a bit.
Unfortunately this method does NOT work on the Amaze.. so we are stuck with basically telling HTC "Hey, I'm going to mess with my phone!".. some people simply don't want to do that.

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Easiest way to root evo 3d now that the bootloader is unlocked

anyone know an easier way? -.-
i unlocked the bootloaders with HTC.
can someone please move this to the right section? sorry.
Post in the q&a and you'll find out. Plus revolution really is not hard if you follow the video.
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jordan23945bulls said:
anyone know an easier way? -.-
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Wrong section, please pay attention to where you are posting next time.
In regards to your question, there really isn't an "easier way". The AlphaRev tool is one of the easiest I have ever seen. I suppose if that is too hard you could void your warranty and go the HTC route(Not Recommended).
i already did it with HTC. i want clockwork or something.
*sigh*
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ugh i want CWM installed
jordan23945bulls said:
anyone know an easier way? -.-
i unlocked the bootloaders with HTC.
can someone please move this to the right section? sorry.
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Since you followed HTC's method you are stuck as of right now. Their method unlocks your bootloader, but still has a NAND lock keeping you from flashing to different partitions. This situation is similar to the OG Evo if I'm not mistaken. Just wait around and a root method should appear.
Sent from my HTC Hero making C.R.E.A.M.
dastin1015 said:
Since you followed HTC's method you are stuck as of right now. Their method unlocks your bootloader, but still has a NAND lock keeping you from flashing to different partitions. This situation is similar to the OG Evo if I'm not mistaken. Just wait around and a root method should appear.
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thank you! ugh i really hope it does, i hate not being rooted.
Shoulda used Alpharevs revolutionary. Sorry. Not bein a ass. But you may have to wait awhile. Give it some time someone will fix it for ya.
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You will see claims from people in these forums that they were able to root and install recovery using HTC's unlocking, but those are false claims. All of those posters had been previously rooted using revolutionary.io. No one that took the OTA on a phone that hadn't previously been unlocked have been successful installing a custom recovery.
Basically you have an unlocked bootloader, now you will have to wait for someone to come up with an exploit like "rage against the cage" from the Evo to unlock the nand and attain s-off. If you had the original Evo 4g you will remember that in order to root you had to use unrevoked or Toast's method. Something similar to that will now be needed.
For those reading this your best option is to hold off using HTC's unlocker and if you haven't taken the 2.08 update use revolutionary.io to unlock your phone and if you did take the update or have a phone that came with the update, wait for an update to revolutionary.io.
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Say what? If you're not contributing in a positive way, please leave the insults at home... for your cat. Thanks!
JDAWS said:
(So what 10) Oh I can root my phone I'm so cool now! Really son? You probably wear your star trek costume at the same as worshipping your phone! Get a life
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Please look up.
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lol im saying man
not sure why people rush to htc unlock and THEN wonder how to do things...
but ok, i'll just refer to the other guy for the correct answer to this thread:
Since you followed HTC's method you are stuck as of right now. Their method unlocks your bootloader, but still has a NAND lock keeping you from flashing to different partitions. This situation is similar to the OG Evo if I'm not mistaken. Just wait around and a root method should appear.
better?
SayWhat10 said:
lol im saying man
not sure why people rush to htc unlock and THEN wonder how to do things...
but ok, i'll just refer to the other guy for the correct answer to this thread:
Since you followed HTC's method you are stuck as of right now. Their method unlocks your bootloader, but still has a NAND lock keeping you from flashing to different partitions. This situation is similar to the OG Evo if I'm not mistaken. Just wait around and a root method should appear.
better?
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I completely agree that many of the new users do often get a bit excited and "rush" to root or unlock their devices (without fully understanding or reading directions) and end up in a lurch. But not a single person on this forum should log in to make a person feel bad or incompetent. If you see someone that jumped the gun and is lost, please help them. If you can't, then just let someone who can do it. We are all here to learn and help each other out. Let's stick to that and everyone will be happy.
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I completely agree that many of the new users do often get a bit excited and "rush" to root or unlock their devices (without fully understanding or reading directions) and end up in a lurch. But not a single person on this forum should log in to make a person feel bad or incompetent. If you see someone that jumped the gun and is lost, please help them. If you can't, then just let someone who can do it. We are all here to learn and help each other out. Let's stick to that and everyone will be happy.
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Amen! I totally agree.
Furthermore, vBulletin, phpBB, Wiki* and most technologies used to share and publish information and content are just terribly inefficient in regards to topics like these (Android, rooting, development, tech, etc.). Newcomers simply can not come into forums like these and find the info or content they want consistently. You can tag, break stuff up into sub-forums and make stickies like 3M 'til your blue in the face but until you fully understand a noob's thought process and behavior and have the software reflect that we forever will have these problems.
One temporary resolution is to try to change the one variable we can change in this equation. That is to try to cease the negative comments since we already know noobs and their questions are a constant.
Do not use the HTC root method, just use the Revolutionary method and before doing so download and copy TWRP and a ROM and flash in HBOOT\Recovery
root with s-on
Like an idiot, I unlocked my bootloader via official HTC way. I have not rooted my phone with revolutionary, my phone was completely stock. I was able to flash CWM via fastboot and install superuser via CWM.

[Q] Anybody using HTC root method bring their phone in for warranty work?

My dad, sister, mom, and I, all have evo 3ds, and so far there's been 3 replaced by sprint due to touch screen problems.. 2 for my sister and 1 for my dad. and I wanna root my phone, had a rooted hero before and it was fun customizing and such.. but as many issues as these phones are having I really don't wanna root it and then have a problem and have sprint not fix it. we don't have insurance on our phones. anybody have an HTC unlocked 3VO and bring it in for repair?
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I personaly never brought my phone in for servicing but its simple to unroot once rooted via htc unlock. There's many threads explaining the process. I follow zedomax's tutorials on htcevohacks.com. Go check it out.
Only thing with unroot the HTC method is that it now shows "RELOCKED" instead of "LOCKED". Not sure if they will pick up on that.
Gotcha.. I think I might take the risk. as of now my phone is working good, let's hope it stays that way..
So long as you have a stock ROM when you bring it in for your hardware problems, you should be okay.
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just got s-off? please read this.

ok,weve had s-off for a couple days now,and ive see quite a few questions on various threads that make me wonder why the posters even wanted s- off int he first place,other than following the crowd like lemmings. lots of "what do i do now,why is my hboot this or that..."
i feel all the new rooters need to see this:
please be careful!
you can now have complete control of your phone. you can chage whatever you want since its not doing ANY security checks at all. as such you have a much greater responsibility to know what your flashing and why,and that your files are 100% unmolested and uncorrupt.
please be aware that a bad bootloader or radio flash can and will brick your phone,possibly beyond recovery.
you do not any longer have the s-on safety net of htcdev.
im seeing alot of flip-flopping bootloaders around,and most folks dont even know why they want the eng hboot.please think about this.its risky-flashing a a new bootloader is prolly THE biggest risk you can take on your devices,as without a bootloader NOTHING will load. i.e.,you have a brick. if your current bootloader suits your needs(ie boots youre phone and supports the fastboot commands you regularly use) then why are you changing it?
s-off is awsome,i know but again,i just want all the noobs that have been asking various question to realize the the seriousness of having this privelege is. have fun flashing roms and slpash screens,but be extremely cautious/careful with the important parts of your device.
-make sure you know what your flashing,and why
-make sure you have an md5 summer and use it.
-if you just asked "whats an md5??" then learn it
-make sure you are comepletely comfortable with all procedures for things you do.
last and not least,please ask any questions BEFORE your phone makes a short lil buzz,shuts off,and wont come back on
A nice friendly reminder. I appreciate it Scotty and I think this should be stickied to avoid people bricking phones.
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Someone had to say it.
I am of the opinion that if you cannot fully support your device on your own and do more than basic troubleshooting, you should not take the risks associated with modifying your firmware. I see posts from people who obviously can't handle basic troubleshooting and I am sure after the S-OFF announcement and instructions there are definitely some bricked phones out there, which Verizon is going to replace on their dime.
So I echo the OP ... Please be careful, and accept the consequences of your actions.
Great post Scotty. I'm glad you took the time to write that. Hopefully people will read it.
Checking md5 is super important.
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Scotty, excellent info for everyone, not just the noobs, as some people don't realize they are still noobs.
Mods, this should be stickied when you get a chance.
Thank you for writing up this excellent post.
Something else that I think should be mentioned is that Verizon/HTC should not be eating the costs of these phones. If you decide to jump voltage on your phone and get stuck in a boot loop and then screw it up trying to fix it, then you need to step up and take responsibility, as the poster above mentioned. You don't have to tell Verizon you were s offing your phone, just tell them you tore it up. They will help you save some money one way or another if you talk to them, and if there's not an option for that hit up craigslist.
For those of you who may be reading this considering the pros and cons, I would wait until you actually need s off to do the process. And when and if you do it, don't do it when you are in a hurry. It's a short process but if you hit a snag and need to start over you do not want to be rushing or not paying attention.
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thanks for the posts,guys. i agree 100% if you screw up your own device trying to s-off it,or doing something stupid after,man up and pay for it. its not vzw or htcs fault.
CharliesTheMan,i espeically like your firmware download,i was planning to do something similar folks are so used to slapping on a new set of radios,they dont realize how important the rest of the firmware can be. the sensation guys have been using similar downloads for quite some time.
great guide,its exactly what we needed
A great way to check MD5 checksums is with AFV Android File Verifier. It works great and you do not have to check each file with a PC. I always download all of the files I flash from my phone, so using AFV make things much simpler.
Clay333 said:
A great way to check MD5 checksums is with AFV Android File Verifier. It works great and you do not have to check each file with a PC. I always download all of the files I flash from my phone, so using AFV make things much simpler.
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I agree completely. If you download right to your phone,AFV is a great app. I also very highly recommend it.
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Very helpful thank you. I'm one of those people who don't know what eng boot is lol
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It is unfortunate that the stock hboot blocks fastboot commands unless you htcdev.com unlock again. That is the reason for the patched hboots. The S-OFF team I believe is working on a patched 2.11 hboot so the engineering hboot won't need to be used. So it will basically be the same as the 2.21 patched hboot they have for ICS.
Alright, so I am on gingerbread hboot, and have all of the files I need to s–off. After I get s-off, what steps do I need to take? I know this has been discussed, I and I am confident in my abilities, just want to do it right. Any help would appreciated. Thanks....
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Great info as always Scotty. People should know exactly what their getting into with S-Off and the consequences along with it. Going to add this to my FAQ.
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I'm just curious. How could flashing wrong Radio brick the Phone ? Is there a technical reason for it ?
I've been flashing Radio on the Samsung Vibrant like crazy with all the radio even from AT&T without a hitch.
Thank you
Thanks Scotty, the main reason I did it was because I jammed something up and needed to do a fresh install anyway. I then assumed all of the upcoming roms will be prepared with s-off assumption. (not the best reason but I got through okay) I need to do my research on MD5 so I will take your advice. Best of luck to everyone else trying to get where they want to be, even if they don't need to be.
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I'm just curious. How could flashing wrong Radio brick the Phone ? Is there a technical reason for it ?
I've been flashing Radio on the Samsung Vibrant like crazy with all the radio even from AT&T without a hitch.
Thank you
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Think of the radio like the bios on a main board. We've turned off the security check that makes sure the file is good. I beleive there is no signature check at all, so a corrupted download will still flash. A bad radio will leave you with a paper weight.
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I am S-On with the GB firmware. If I don't S-Off, will I have problems down the road flashing new ROMs? I can I still flash the ROM, then fast boot the kernal?
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Think of the radio like the bios on a main board. We've turned off the security check that makes sure the file is good. I beleive there is no signature check at all, so a corrupted download will still flash. A bad radio will leave you with a paper weight.
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I though that Hboot (Bootloader???) acts as Bios. Anyway, be safe better than feeling regret
Thanks
k_flan said:
Think of the radio like the bios on a main board. We've turned off the security check that makes sure the file is good. I beleive there is no signature check at all, so a corrupted download will still flash. A bad radio will leave you with a paper weight.
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Being technical here maybe, but a bad radio would technically just make you not have reception or data correct ? As long as your HBoot wasn't corrupted, you could flash the radios back. Big danger is if your flashing a different or corrupted Hboot right ? I am just trying to understand myself so not being argumentative just trying to get it straight with the way I understood it .

Evo 4G LTE 1.22.651.3 Root (EASY)

Anyone here on xda used this successfully??
re:
http://forums.androidcentral.com/ht...2777-evo-4g-lte-1-22-651-3-root-easy.html#anb
WTF do people take DEVs threads and post them on the her sites is beyond me. Rega's name want even mentioned. His thread was copied and pasted word for word. And the guy mentions its not his work and thanks to the guys who made it. Jezz, seriously irritates me. Not you lol. Here's the original thread you want http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1690919
Msor people here used it including myself. I used it with the older version. But the dev is a cool dude. He'll help ya in any way he can.
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reverepats said:
Here's the original thread you want http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1690919
Msor people here used it including myself. I used it with the older version. But the dev is a cool dude. He'll help ya in any way he can.
Sent Blazing w/ Viper4G
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Ah good to know.
So it works fine for partial ROOT - so you can flash ROMs etc?
Thanks.
ronnienyc said:
Ah good to know.
So it works fine for partial ROOT - so you can flash ROMs etc?
Thanks.
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Yes this will set you up to do all that. . Best part is, that it wont report to HTC that you Unlocked your bootloader. The conventional way would report it to HTC and void your warranty. It will also ssh TWRP recovery and install SU and busy box. Please, just make sure you read the directions thoroughly. Make sure u have e the correct drivers and such. About e the directions you'll see all the requirements before running the MOD. Any troubles, just post your questions there. Rega's awesome. After you'll be all set to flash ROMs and such. There are a couple of limitations without S-Off but it doesn't sound like you wanna go to far.
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Yes, I have used Rega's tool on other phones in the past. I just didn't know this was available for this 651.3 version on this phone.
Just started using the Evo LTE about a week ago, and I am hoping to instsall Mean ROM to make it a little more responsive
Also, my phone already says "TAMPERED."
Is there any way to get rid of that?
reverepats said:
Yes this will set you up to do all that. . Best part is, that it wont report to HTC that you Unlocked your bootloader. The conventional way would report it to HTC and void your warranty. It will also ssh TWRP recovery and install SU and busy box. Please, just make sure you read the directions thoroughly. Make sure u have e the correct drivers and such. About e the directions you'll see all the requirements before running the MOD. Any troubles, just post your questions there. Rega's awesome. After you'll be all set to flash ROMs and such. There are a couple of limitations without S-Off but it doesn't sound like you wanna go to far.
Sent Blazing w/ Viper4G
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Im pretty new to android so forgive me, but im looking to unlock and root using this method but i see it uses htcdev.com.
am i incorrect in saying that going with htcdev.com method my warrant WILL be voided? or am i missing sumthing.
eddy0090 said:
Im pretty new to android so forgive me, but im looking to unlock and root using this method but i see it uses htcdev.com.
am i incorrect in saying that going with htcdev.com method my warrant WILL be voided? or am i missing sumthing.
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Normally with HTCDev, you're giving them your personal information, like your name, in exchange for the unlock key. With Regaw's method, it randomizes one of a hundred names, so they never actually have your specific info on file.
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Normally with HTCDev, you're giving them your personal information, like your name, in exchange for the unlock key. With Regaw's method, it randomizes one of a hundred names, so they never actually have your specific info on file.
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gotcha. thanks. one more dumb question, not really sure what s-on s-off is. and do i need to be s-off if i want to flash custom roms?
thanks again this community kicks a$$!
eddy0090 said:
gotcha. thanks. one more dumb question, not really sure what s-on s-off is. and do i need to be s-off if i want to flash custom roms?
thanks again this community kicks a$$!
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To answer the easier question first, no, you don't have to be s-off to flash roms.
As to what it is and what it means, once you go to Regaw's thread, hit his name, go to his stats, and check out the link of threads that he's started. He did a pretty good write up on what s-off is, and what it means.
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To answer the easier question first, no, you don't have to be s-off to flash roms.
As to what it is and what it means, once you go to Regaw's thread, hit his name, go to his stats, and check out the link of threads that he's started. He did a pretty good write up on what s-off is, and what it means.
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will do thanks much!
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Normally with HTCDev, you're giving them your personal information, like your name, in exchange for the unlock key. With Regaw's method, it randomizes one of a hundred names, so they never actually have your specific info on file.
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I've not utilized this process, so I'm speaking from a position of ignorance. But, regardless of the name used, etc., it would seem to me that ANY method utilized will provided the IMEI/Serial # of the handset. This said, HTC will have a record that the phone was unlocked, and would still certainly have an ability to say it is not eligible for certain warranty claims.
Am I incorrect?
Joel
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I've not utilized this process, so I'm speaking from a position of ignorance. But, regardless of the name used, etc., it would seem to me that ANY method utilized will provided the IMEI/Serial # of the handset. This said, HTC will have a record that the phone was unlocked, and would still certainly have an ability to say it is not eligible for certain warranty claims.
Am I incorrect?
Joel
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no, you're not incorrect - HTC will have the devices information on file as part of the token, but they will not have your name and registration information. This does not prove that the phone was unlocked, only that the unlock information was requested for your phone. As an fyi also, the fine print states that htc specific warranty may be voided by unlocking, not that it will be.
jbhorner said:
I've not utilized this process, so I'm speaking from a position of ignorance. But, regardless of the name used, etc., it would seem to me that ANY method utilized will provided the IMEI/Serial # of the handset. This said, HTC will have a record that the phone was unlocked, and would still certainly have an ability to say it is not eligible for certain warranty claims.
Am I incorrect?
Joel
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They will only have a record that you REQUESTED an unlock code. There is no way they can prove that you actually USED it, unless your device obviously says "UNLOCKED" or "RELOCKED" in the bootloader (which it invariably will until S-OFF is achieved for the new HBOOT).
Besides the fact that no one ever sends their device back to HTC for service, so it's not typically relevant anyway.
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Besides the fact that no one ever sends their device back to HTC for service, so it's not typically relevant anyway.
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I just did. Sprint only has a 15 day warranty on phones now (unless you purchase the insurance.) And mine was a couple months old, with a borked antenna and dropping calls. So it is off to HTC for a warranty repair/replacement.
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I just did. Sprint only has a 15 day warranty on phones now (unless you purchase the insurance.) And mine was a couple months old, with a borked antenna and dropping calls. So it is off to HTC for a warranty repair/replacement.
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I guess if you don't want to pay Sprint the $35 to have them fix it, then yes, you'd have to send it back to HTC, but if they determine there's nothing wrong with the phone, they just send it back to you unfixed, and at your expense. That's why I'm going to try and never send anything back to them .
reverepats I never took any credit it was not brought up on AC before so I was just trying to help people out because there was a lot of threads of people asking how to root the new update so i dont get why your mad about this? Far as being a word for word copy it was not so dont go there some things may be close but I put up a link to his thread and gave credit

[PSA]Public Service Announcement!!!!

Greetings! I hope you are having a fine day!
I am writing this to try to alleviate future issues for some of you.
Sunday night, I posted instructions for installing a certain update manually. Now, I am S-Off, and just assumed when I wrote it that anybody else flashing stuff like that would be too. This was apparently my mistake.
So in an effort to try to prevent future problems I am writing this, and hoping many of you will read it, and pay attention. Although I know that usually doesn't happen.
So, here we go:
If you are planning to manually flash anything other than a ROM, you should be S-Off. There is no excuse not to be, and no reason you shouldn't do it.
First, it's completely reversible. Second, it removes the "Unlocked" message from your phone.
It prevents the mainver older issue.
It lets you pretty much flash anything you want, whenever you want, as long as the phone is physically able. This means, if you flash something and it goes wrong, you can flash backwards to what you had before.
After S-Off, you DO NOT HAVE TO UNLOCK!!!!!! I cannot say this enough. S-Off is a step beyond unlocking. This is why we do it!
Reverting to S-On is as simple as flashing a full, released, OTA RUU and issuing a fastboot command to change the flag. Although the only reason I could see to do that is to return the phone.
If you aren't sure that a set of directions apply to you, ask first!
If you are following the directions, and something goes wrong, STOP!!!!!! Do not guess what to do, or try to go backwards unless you know for a fact it will work. Go online and ask for help. If you ask properly, somebody will help you. Some people live for the chance to help others.
When asking for help, say what you had before you started, what you were trying to do (with a link), what step you were on, and what the unexpected result was. POST THE EXACT MESSAGES!!!! Not an abbreviated version.
If a post does not specify that you need to be S-Off, read through the instructions before you start. If you see anything to do with a PH98IMG.zip file, or going into HBOOT, assume you should S-Off first. Simply to be safe.
I know this was all disjointed, but I was simply posting my responses to issues I see all too often that could easily have been avoided, or resolved much easier.
So, to sum up.
S-Off Your Phone!
Thank you!
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So, to sum up.
S-Off Your Phone!
Thank you!
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Exactly. Plus educate yourself.
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also, to add on, if you want to revert to s-on, RUN AN RUU FIRST!!!!!! it will brick your phone if you s-on on a modified/unsigned hboot!! although it is reversible (as i did tonight...derp) it was annoying. also if you want a guide on how to unbrick a rezound bricked by writing security flag 3 with an unsigned hboot, or caused by a damaged hboot via interrupted OTA update/RUU flash on a S-ON device, i will gladly do it, all props to meadows btw
Thanks for the write up.
To be honest I am not sure what to do to update my firmware from that 100mb ota after reading that thread several times. Or if I even need to if I don't have a use for the gsm stuff. I am s-off though.
Edit: I forgot to mention, I am running ics firmware on the viper rom.
If I were a dev, I wouldn't include any options for s-on. It's simple to do, safe enough, and not scary at all.... It makes everyone's life much easier.
Nice thread, dsb9938, and right on point. Problem is, nobody reads. Nobody looks at the threads above and nobody searches. Alright, not nobody, but not enough people. The way I see it, if you are going to take the responsibility for manipulating the innards of your $200 handset, the least you could do is poke around for the right way to do things before just messing around and thinking Dad will buy you a new handset when you bork it. This Dad won't.
XDA is for people who take responsibility. If you can't handle that, please go play in someone else's sandbox.
If I had a dollar for every post in another current thread here that reflects users not reading posts only a page above, not checking stickies first, not using the search function, or just plain trolling, I could buy several Rezounds just to mess with and still have money left over for a Nexus 7.
/end rant
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hgoldner said:
Nice thread, dsb9938, and right on point. Problem is, nobody reads. Nobody looks at the threads above and nobody searches. Alright, not nobody, but not enough people. The way I see it, if you are going to take the responsibility for manipulating the innards of your $200 handset, the least you could do is poke around for the right way to do things before just messing around and thinking Dad will buy you a new handset when you bork it. This Dad won't.
XDA is for people who take responsibility. If you can't handle that, please go play in someone else's sandbox.
If I had a dollar for every post in another current thread here that reflects users not reading posts only a page above, not checking stickies first, not using the search function, or just plain trolling, I could buy several Rezounds just to mess with and still have money left over for a Nexus 7.
/end rant
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While everything you said is true, people just need to be nicer to each other. We are all here to help each other, no need to be mean about it. :highfive:
antp121 said:
also, to add on, if you want to revert to s-on, RUN AN RUU FIRST!!!!!! it will brick your phone if you s-on on a modified/unsigned hboot!! although it is reversible (as i did tonight...derp) it was annoying. also if you want a guide on how to unbrick a rezound bricked by writing security flag 3 with an unsigned hboot, or caused by a damaged hboot via interrupted OTA update/RUU flash on a S-ON device, i will gladly do it, all props to meadows btw
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Lol that's in giant font on the s-off tutorial.
Yet you still failed.
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wlmeng11 said:
Lol that's in giant font on the s-off tutorial.
Yet you still failed.
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I ruu'd that morning. I was playing mw3 and I completely spaced. It's all good now so does it matter?
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OK so im s-off do i need to "fastboot oem lock" before updating to the latest RUU????
synisterwolf said:
OK so im s-off do i need to "fastboot oem lock" before updating to the latest RUU????
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It kills me when people actually have no idea about things like that. I mean that's just common knowledge and could be found with a 5 minute Google search
AshtonTS said:
It kills me when people actually have no idea about things like that. I mean that's just common knowledge and could be found with a 5 minute Google search
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Google?
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86shelby said:
If I were a dev, I wouldn't include any options for s-on. It's simple to do, safe enough, and not scary at all.... It makes everyone's life much easier.
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With all due respect alienating any portion of your user base is generally not good. I'm not s-off but it's only because I haven't been around a pc that's got an internet connection. I appreciate how easy it is but there are still those of us that have life situations that haven't allowed for the whole process yet.
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Geoi1006 said:
With all due respect alienating any portion of your user base is generally not good. I'm not s-off but it's only because I haven't been around a pc that's got an internet connection. I appreciate how easy it is but there are still those of us that have life situations that haven't allowed for the whole process yet.
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You could download the stuff to your phone and transfer it via USB to your computer, or you could use tethering.
It's called being resourceful
I see you talking but all I'm seeing is talking down to people. Trying to decide where the constructive portion of this thread is.
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I agree more people need to read and remember the rules and posts like this as well. Thank you for posting this, however i do disagree with one thing. I recently upgraded my firmware to the ICS update OTA(not the ICS update itself but the update that was pushed shortly after) which updated my hboot to 2.27, Locked. All is fine until I needed to flash a boot.img because of boot manager. No big deal until I get a "remote not allowed" return on a fastboot flash boot boot.img command. For some reason I can not for the life of me create a flashable zip to be flashed in recovery, and I'm too lazy to take my sdcard out to put a PH98IMG.ZIP file on there to flash boot.img in bootloader. So I had to unlock my bootloader to perform the fastboot command needed to get my phone back. Until there is a patched hboot 2.27, you will need to unlock your bootloader, or downgrade to jb_hboot. Just my 2 cents...
Great post. Thanks for writing it up.
I tried numerous times to get s off, and it just didnt work for me. I dont have a land line or a spare phone so I am very dependant on my phone. I can't have it in non working phone.
I appreciate all the work the drvs do and all the people who help us out to make our phones top notch. However, I do like how the devs have s on and s off roms
I don't S-Off because brickings are always possible when S-Off, and S-On hasn't really inconvenienced me.
AshtonTS said:
You could download the stuff to your phone and transfer it via USB to your computer, or you could use tethering.
It's called being resourceful
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I see you talking but all I'm seeing is talking down to people. Trying to decide where the constructive portion of this thread is.
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That's definitely talking down to people. It's a big wave of arrogance emitting from this thread. Keep in mind a lot of these dudes are young Btw.
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I don't S-Off because brickings are always possible when S-Off, and S-On hasn't really inconvenienced me.
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Actually, bricking your phone, as unlikely as that is, is less likely when s-off since there are more options to recovery if you mess up.
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