Clockwork recovery without root - AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717

In theory, can i flash clockwork to my.unrooted phone and then flash roms via the.sd card?
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Root isn't required for flashing custom recovery, since it is flashed either through Odin or ADB. I believe any ROM you flash short of the leak will come pre rooted. If you wanted to I guess you could uninstall busy box and super user, but I don't know what would happen
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You need root ability to use the functions within custom roms....I think if you did that,you would end up having a million errors...lol...are you just curious to see if its possible?...or actually wanting to try this?...I wouldn't recommend it...The process of rooting is very easy and unrooting is just as equal....

wish777 said:
You need root ability to use the functions within custom roms....I think if you did that,you would end up having a million errors...lol...are you just curious to see if its possible?...or actually wanting to try this?...I wouldn't recommend it...The process of rooting is very easy and unrooting is just as equal....
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lmao.... Roms are prerooted, all of it is included in the zip. and if it ain't i wouldn't flash anything made by that "dev"
VonEsch said:
Root isn't required for flashing custom recovery, since it is flashed either through Odin or ADB. I believe any ROM you flash short of the leak will come pre rooted. If you wanted to I guess you could uninstall busy box and super user, but I don't know what would happen
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You don't need root to flash cwm with Odin, you do however need root to push cwm with adb.
Once you have cwm, all you need to do is wipe and flash the ROM. Like i said above, the ROM is rooted, so when you boot up you'll have root.
The only reason to root before flashing is if you wanted to use titanium backup.

Didn't know that, I avoid ADB for fear of typos, good information to know though, thanks.
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VonEsch said:
Didn't know that, I avoid ADB for fear of typos, good information to know though, thanks.
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Typos dont work haven't you ever used a command line before?

Eric-1987 said:
Typos dont work haven't you ever used a command line before?
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Thanks but I have been an Linux admin for years.
You are correct. "Some" typos will simply provide an error output. But beware that not all of them do.
Everyone, please be careful what commands you put in.

Eric-1987 said:
Typos dont work haven't you ever used a command line before?
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DOS yes, ADB a while back, I'd just hate to kill my phone and have the wife say "see what happens"
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Eric-1987 said:
Typos dont work haven't you ever used a command line before?
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a nice dd with wrong parameters easily hard-bricks your phone... (ask dsmitty)

Thus, i can use heimdall and flash clockwork, wipe and install a rom? Noob here...just wanted to simplify...THANKS FOR THE HELP!
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[CWM] Bootstrap Recovery

We've tested and can confirm this bootstrap recovery is working. Thank you to bane449 for testing. The recovery is a straight APK pull from the Droid X2. Worked thanks to the similarities between devices.
Instructions and download:
http://briefmobile.com/motorola-photon-4g-root-custom-recovery-now-available
Looks successful to me: DroidX2 Recovery GFAN.COM V2.5.1.8
And it booted back into Android properly, even
So what will this allow me to do? What are its advantages? What are the risks?
sub2k1 said:
So what will this allow me to do? What are its advantages? What are the risks?
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CWM allows users to easily install unsigned update packages. This will open up the Photon to pseudo-ROMs, all sorts of modifications, and more.
Forgive my ignorance but what is a "pseudo-Rom"?
kennethpenn said:
CWM allows users to easily install unsigned update packages. This will open up the Photon to pseudo-ROMs, all sorts of modifications, and more.
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I know what ROM's are, never heard anyone say psuedo-ROM.
Lokifish Marz said:
Custom ROMs (if available for the Photon) like MIUI, CM7 etc...
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mikeyinid said:
I know what ROM's are, never heard anyone say psuedo-ROM.
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Psuedo meaning "not really" a ROM. A locked bootloader will prevent true custom ROMs, but P-ROMs will be possible.
P-ROMs are based off of stock files and modifications. They don't replace the kernel or modem.
Yup i installed this and rebooted into recovery mode. It worked just fine for me. What happens if Sprint releases an OTA update? Can i recover root access or downgrade with this? Sounds like I can't because I can't modify the kernel.
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I can't seem to get mine to reboot into CWM. I run the apk, hit install recovery, says installed sucessfully, hit recovery mode and it reboots back into system.
b-reezy said:
I can't seem to get mine to reboot into CWM. I run the apk, hit install recovery, says installed sucessfully, hit recovery mode and it reboots back into system.
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Make sure your device is plugged into the wall charger when you do Reboot Recovery. That's the only way it'll work since it's a bootstrap recovery.
kennethpenn said:
Make sure your device is plugged into the wall charger when you do Reboot Recovery. That's the only way it'll work since it's a bootstrap recovery.
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Can you explain why this is? I'm a little confused as to what makes a "bootstrap recovery" different from a regularly flashed "recovery.img".
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Can you explain why this is? I'm a little confused as to what makes a "bootstrap recovery" different from a regularly flashed "recovery.img".
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Caveats:
This is not a *real* recovery. The way this recovery works is by hijacking portions of your boot process during system initialization and starting into recovery instead. So, if you hose your system *COMPLETELY* you will need to SBF. Specifically, if your logwrapper, logwrapper.bin, or hijack binary are missing from /system/bin, you will be screwed.
This is from koush himself concerning droid x/2 bootstrap. I would seriously wait til an sbf surfaces before flashing any of these "psuedo-ROMS" or even just deleting any system apk's. Just my opinion.
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Yup i installed this and rebooted into recovery mode. It worked just fine for me. What happens if Sprint releases an OTA update? Can i recover root access or downgrade with this? Sounds like I can't because I can't modify the kernel.
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Does the phone need to be rooted first in order to installl this recovery apk?
Is this "ClockworkMod" recovery, or something else? If it's CWM, what version?
So what specifically did this do to my phone? What files were modified to allow this to run at bootup? Anybody have any info on this (just in case I want to return my phone to stock.)
mediawiz said:
Is this "ClockworkMod" recovery, or something else? If it's CWM, what version?
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This is CWM bootstrap. Original one was on the Droid X, created by Koushik Dutta. Then it was ported to the Defy. Then to the Atrix. Next, the Droid X2. Now, the Photon 4G.
V2.5.1.8
Sbf is gonna be your friend when it comes to unrooting and restoring. It will pop up soon.
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So what specifically did this do to my phone? What files were modified to allow this to run at bootup? Anybody have any info on this (just in case I want to return my phone to stock.)
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Once I'm in CWM, is it safe to unplug the charger or does it need to be connected until I exit and reboot?
beartrap said:
Once I'm in CWM, is it safe to unplug the charger or does it need to be connected until I exit and reboot?
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You can unplug.
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My phone hates me, want to help?

Well, I have tried to flash my phone with cm7 for the last 3 days and when I go to reboot recovery it freezes at the LG screen and I am forced to pull my battery possibly bricking my phone. Does anyone, I mean anyone have a safe sure way to flash my phone? And I have no pc access.....srry
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You need a computer. Either you didn't install recovery right. Or you're too impatient. Sometimes it hangs for a minute or so.
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omgpk said:
Well, I have tried to flash my phone with cm7 for the last 3 days and when I go to reboot recovery it freezes at the LG screen and I am forced to pull my battery possibly bricking my phone. Does anyone, I mean anyone have a safe sure way to flash my phone? And I have no pc access.....srry
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use terminal emulator and reflash your recovery with flash_image. you got a bad flash or a bad download of the recovery it sounds like.
there is a slim chance you aren't rooted correctly too, in which case it won't let you flash the recovery until you get permanent root. hopefully this isn't the case.
Pretty dumb question what's flash image n just incase how do I check. For a permanent root?
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omgpk said:
Pretty dumb question what's flash image n just incase how do I check. For a permanent root?
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My advice is not to do ANYTHING until you are at a computer and have at least a half an hour available. This sounds like your first time flashing a ROM, take some time to look up key terms and such, your patience will reward you greatly. It is difficult to flash without a computer. Go to a friends house, a library, something and do it from there. To check if you have root, download the app root checker from the market. Then, after confirming root status, work from there and flash a new recovery by pushing it through ADB. Then, place the ROM on the sd card and flash it through your recovery, then Google Apps. If you follow everything I say, and it still doesn't work, come back to this thread or send me a PM and we will go from there. Look into guides before posting, not trying to be mean, but they are there for a reason.

[Q] droid dna busybox zip?

Hi well this is my second DNA trying to root destroyed the first one lol... Well anyways the first one I downloaded supersu and busybox and figured out it didn't work and I ruined it now.... This is my second phone I have flashed the superuser and binaries. I am figuring out that I have root but its not working correctly.. mostly my changes that I need root for are not lasting through reboot I'm not losing root but I'm losing my changes as in when I delete amazon its gone but when I reboot its back. my only assumption is that its because busybox is missing can anyone confirm this and is there any possible way where I can just get the busybox zip... I have been on the busybox.net website and seen the downloads but I would like confirmation before u destroy this phone to which I hope don't not happen.
Unless you have s-off or have flashed a new kernel, the system partition is right protected, even when you think it isn't. I think that is what is causing your problem.
Why don't you flash a room that already had root/busybix installed?
c2a5nn1o4n said:
Hi well this is my second DNA trying to root destroyed the first one lol... Well anyways the first one I downloaded supersu and busybox and figured out it didn't work and I ruined it now.... This is my second phone I have flashed the superuser and binaries. I am figuring out that I have root but its not working correctly.. mostly my changes that I need root for are not lasting through reboot I'm not losing root but I'm losing my changes as in when I delete amazon its gone but when I reboot its back. my only assumption is that its because busybox is missing can anyone confirm this and is there any possible way where I can just get the busybox zip... I have been on the busybox.net website and seen the downloads but I would like confirmation before u destroy this phone to which I hope don't not happen.
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c2a5nn1o4n said:
Hi well this is my second DNA trying to root destroyed the first one lol... Well anyways the first one I downloaded supersu and busybox and figured out it didn't work and I ruined it now.... This is my second phone I have flashed the superuser and binaries. I am figuring out that I have root but its not working correctly.. mostly my changes that I need root for are not lasting through reboot I'm not losing root but I'm losing my changes as in when I delete amazon its gone but when I reboot its back. my only assumption is that its because busybox is missing can anyone confirm this and is there any possible way where I can just get the busybox zip... I have been on the busybox.net website and seen the downloads but I would like confirmation before u destroy this phone to which I hope don't not happen.
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When first unlocking and rooting my phone, I thought the same thing about busy box. But what you need to do is flash a new kernel first and foremost which will remove write protection.
I'm not really trying to flash a Rom yet personally I was waiting to see if liberty was coming but I guess it wont be coming I'm having a problem with pushing soffbin do I need do fastboot and soffbin in the same folder?
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c2a5nn1o4n said:
I'm not really trying to flash a Rom yet personally I was waiting to see if liberty was coming but I guess it wont be coming I'm having a problem with pushing soffbin do I need do fastboot and soffbin in the same folder?
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Flashing a Kernel is not flashing a rom. It just helps with battery, gives you sweep2wake, and allows you actual root access
Flashing a Kernel is not flashing a rom. It just helps with battery, gives you sweep2wake, and allows you actual root access[/QUOTE]
I'm thinking about flashing viper Rom it seems to be very stable will that fix my problem?
c2a5nn1o4n said:
Flashing a Kernel is not flashing a rom. It just helps with battery, gives you sweep2wake, and allows you actual root access
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I'm thinking about flashing viper Rom it seems to be very stable will that fix my problem?[/QUOTE]
No, again, you need to flash a kernel first so that you have write permissions
c2a5nn1o4n said:
I'm thinking about flashing viper Rom it seems to be very stable will that fix my problem?
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Reading your OP and the rest of your comments in this thread, you're all over the place. Things you are doing will not fix your original problem and trying to achieve s-off just because it looks popular and running into difficulties trying to achieve it only adds to problems and confusion. I suggest you step back, slow down and get familiar with terms before you break another phone. While a small portion of the info is EVO 4G specific, you should check these out for general knowledge:
http://androidforums.com/evo-4g-all-things-root/278898-android-partitions-kernels-explained.html
http://androidforums.com/evo-4g-all...ore-information-about-android-partitions.html
Your root is probably sticking in between boots. As we don't have any ROMs that free up the wasted space in the system folder, it's pointless for you to try to delete apps that you don't want installed. You can simply go into Settings\Apps\All and force stop them and then disable. If that doesn't work, you can use Titanium Backup and hit the middle "Backup/Restore" tab. Click on the app you want and Freeze it (this will stop it from running.) If that doesn't float your boat, you can try to uninstall it.
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Your root is probably sticking in between boots. As we don't have any ROMs that free up the wasted space in the system folder, it's pointless for you to try to delete apps that you don't want installed. You can simply go into Settings\Apps\All and force stop them and then disable. If that doesn't work, you can use Titanium Backup and hit the middle "Backup/Restore" tab. Click on the app you want and Freeze it (this will stop it from running.) If that doesn't float your boat, you can try to uninstall it.
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Anything he does with will not stick through the boot because he doesn't really have root access. I had the exact same problem before flashing a writeable kernel. After I flashed DSB 2.5.4 [when I originally was going through the process] that corrected the whole busybox/binaries issue. Using Titanium Backup at this point is pointless as well because after he restarts his phone, they'll all be back.
Edit: Plus it will say you have root without a writeable kernel but you don't have write permissions to have things like uninstalling bloatware stick through a boot.
UrGuardian999 said:
Anything he does with will not stick through the boot because he doesn't really have root access. I had the exact same problem before flashing a writeable kernel. After I flashed DSB 2.5.4 [when I originally was going through the process] that corrected the whole busybox/binaries issue. Using Titanium Backup at this point is pointless as well because after he restarts his phone, they'll all be back.
Edit: Plus it will say you have root without a writeable kernel but you don't have write permissions to have things like uninstalling bloatware stick through a boot.
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You're right. I had assumed he had unlocked and flashed an unsecure boot image before attempting to flash su and busybox. Perhaps I did assume too much. I'll refer him to here in that case.
UrGuardian999 said:
Anything he does with will not stick through the boot because he doesn't really have root access. I had the exact same problem before flashing a writeable kernel. After I flashed DSB 2.5.4 [when I originally was going through the process] that corrected the whole busybox/binaries issue. Using Titanium Backup at this point is pointless as well because after he restarts his phone, they'll all be back.
Edit: Plus it will say you have root without a writeable kernel but you don't have write permissions to have things like uninstalling bloatware stick through a boot.
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Ok so I have to have busybox? I've downloaded the viper Rom with the boot img I'm downloading cubed 3.1.3 kernal now so I just go into recovery and flash the kernal correct I'm a noon to HTC this is entirely different than by bionic
c2a5nn1o4n said:
Ok so I have to have busybox I've downloaded the viper Rom with the boot img I'm downloading cubed 3.1.3 kernal now so I just go into recovery and flash the kernal correct I'm a noon to HTC this is entirely different than by bionic
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The Viper Rom has Stock DSB Kernel boot.img zip'd with it. You can flash that rom and flash the Stock DSB modules with it and you'd be good to go
UrGuardian999 said:
The Viper Rom has Stock DSB Kernel boot.img zip'd with it. You can flash that rom and flash the Stock DSB modules with it and you'd be good to go
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That's actually the opposite of what actually is the case. The modules are packaged with the rom and you have to flash the boot.img manually.
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Bigandrewgold said:
That's actually the opposite of what actually is the case. The modules are packaged with the rom and you have to flash the boot.img manually.
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I downloaded the boot.img and the Rom then went to recovery and only the Rom was there how do I flash the boot img manually
c2a5nn1o4n said:
I downloaded the boot.img and the Rom then went to recovery and only the Rom was there how do I flash the boot img manually
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Nvr mind I understand but do I fastboot the boot img first or after I flash the Rom
c2a5nn1o4n said:
Nvr mind I understand but do I fastboot the boot img first or after I flash the Rom
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The order doesn't matter
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The order doesn't matter
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Also on my other DNA I installed cynogen but not the bootimage and when I would try to reboot I would get messed up lines would that have caused that? If it would my brain has dropped to a new low
If using Cubed 3.1.3 you'll have to reflash the modules though, correct?
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If using Cubed 3.1.3 you'll have to reflash the modules though
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Nope still on stock kernal
I'm currently flashing viper as well right now, had to stop and go to work right in the middle of it. My apologies hahah

[Q] I think I have two recoveries running parallel

So I had originally had TWRP/Hyperdrive on my phone, and switched to CWM/Cyanogenmod. I noticed now that I seem to have two different recoveries on my phone, because if I hold up+home+power I can go to a different version of CWM Recovery than if I use the Rom Manager app to boot into recovery. How would I rectify this? Would it involve wiping the /boot partition? I don't know where/how recoveries are stored so I don't understand how I can have two.
Doing a fresh install of a ROM has not resolved this by the way. And actually currently, I can't hold the buttons and boot into recovery at all, it gets stuck on the Samsung logo. I can only get into recovery via Rom Manager or Reboot options if I'm in android.
Markstache said:
So I had originally had TWRP/Hyperdrive on my phone, and switched to CWM/Cyanogenmod. I noticed now that I seem to have two different recoveries on my phone, because if I hold up+home+power I can go to a different version of CWM Recovery than if I use the Rom Manager app to boot into recovery. How would I rectify this? Would it involve wiping the /boot partition? I don't know where/how recoveries are stored so I don't understand how I can have two.
Doing a fresh install of a ROM has not resolved this by the way. And actually currently, I can't hold the buttons and boot into recovery at all, it gets stuck on the Samsung logo. I can only get into recovery via Rom Manager or Reboot options if I'm in android.
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I would just Odin back to stock MDK and start fresh and choose whichever recovery suits you. I had to do the same a while back myself
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Mistertac said:
I would just Odin back to stock MDK and start fresh and choose whichever recovery suits you. I had to do the same a while back myself
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I've done that so many times.
Markstache said:
I've done that so many times.
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My fault ...I see where you adressed that in the last part of your post. I'm no expert either on how recoveries are stored and executed.
I would think though that flashing stock mdk would fix this as it did for me. I used ROM manager to install cwm then I flashed Philz and haven't had a problem since. Hope someone else can help you.
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Mistertac said:
My fault ...I see where you adressed that in the last part of your post. I'm no expert either on how recoveries are stored and executed.
I would think though that flashing stock mdk would fix this as it did for me. I used ROM manager to install cwm then I flashed Philz and haven't had a problem since. Hope someone else can help you.
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The only way to fix is to Odin back to factory image and start over.
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cbmggm said:
The only way to fix is to Odin back to factory image and start over.
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Yea that's what I said before too but the op said they've done that many times with no luck...
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The only way to fix is to Odin back to factory image and start over.
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That's what I would have figured would fix it, because I'm pretty sure that's supposed to wipe /boot, but I found out I cannot flash kernels on my phone for some reason and when having to fix softbricks while experimenting with why it doesn't work and flashing different kernels, I had to do that whole process so many times I can go from softbrick back to where I'm at now in about 20 minutes.
Is your device in factory mode when using touchwiz roms?
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Is your device in factory mode when using touchwiz roms?
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I have no idea what you mean, and I'm not using anything touchwiz based anymore.
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I have no idea what you mean, and I'm not using anything touchwiz based anymore.
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OK...well try something real quick for me...use a root manager and open your efs folder...are the files still there...if not your efs folder has been formatted to the incorrect format... That would explain funky recovery issues and not being able to flash kernels...that's the only things I can think of
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OK...well try something real quick for me...use a root manager and open your efs folder...are the files still there...if not your efs folder has been formatted to the incorrect format... That would explain funky recovery issues and not being able to flash kernels...that's the only things I can think of
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It sure is there and has files in it.
What is that folder? Should I delete the contents?
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It sure is there and has files in it.
What is that folder? Should I delete the contents?
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Definitely don't delete your efs folder. Actually it's good practice to back it up
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It sure is there and has files in it.
What is that folder? Should I delete the contents?
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No!!!!...you will lose your number and all data capability...just wanted to make sure everything was still mounting properly... I'm at a loss as to what else could be causing your issues
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I have no idea what you mean, and I'm not using anything touchwiz based anymore.
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I'd find someone like Philz or a TWRP compiler to ask if u haven't already gone that route. I'm sure one of them will know. Hopefully [emoji41]
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Something just occured to me. When flashing back to stock with odin I always use the nowipe image because it's all I can find. I think that technically means boot was never wiped. Would that explain my phenomena? Also where to find stock that will wipe?
Markstache said:
Something just occured to me. When flashing back to stock with odin I always use the nowipe image because it's all I can find. I think that technically means boot was never wiped. Would that explain my phenomena? Also where to find stock that will wipe?
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I've always used this one
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2289325
I'm not 100% if its no wipe as it doesn't say. But it you haven't tried this one yet may be worth a shot
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Mistertac said:
I've always used this one
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2289325
I'm not 100% if its no wipe as it doesn't say. But it you haven't tried this one yet may be worth a shot
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^^^this should fix you up...but backup everything you can to external SD or computer...when it says full wipe its no joke
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I've always used this one
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2289325
I'm not 100% if its no wipe as it doesn't say. But it you haven't tried this one yet may be worth a shot
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So I flashed that one via Odin, followed the guide to root and everything step by step, and now that I'm back on stock kernel and want to install CWM Recovery, I downloaded Rom Manager and hit install recovery and it says everything worked but if I boot into recovery it's just the android stock recovery.
EDIT: Another thing I thought of. Could the fact that at one point I used this method to install CWM recovery on my phone have caused there to be two different recoveries running parallel?
http://galaxys4root.com/galaxy-s4-r...on-att-or-verizon-galaxy-s4-sgh-i337sch-i545/
UPDATE: Using this method I installed the latest version of CWM Recovery Touch but Rom Manager still thinks the normal version is installed, though now if I hit reboot to recovery from the app it actually takes me to the touch instead of a separate one. Is the app dumb or do I still have an issue? Also I cannot install kernels without tripping the count and having my phone tell me I need to go to a verizon store.
http://wiki.cyanogenmod.org/w/Install_CM_for_jfltevzw
Markstache said:
So I flashed that one via Odin, followed the guide to root and everything step by step, and now that I'm back on stock kernel and want to install CWM Recovery, I downloaded Rom Manager and hit install recovery and it says everything worked but if I boot into recovery it's just the android stock recovery.
EDIT: Another thing I thought of. Could the fact that at one point I used this method to install CWM recovery on my phone have caused there to be two different recoveries running parallel?
http://galaxys4root.com/galaxy-s4-r...on-att-or-verizon-galaxy-s4-sgh-i337sch-i545/
UPDATE: Using this method I installed the latest version of CWM Recovery Touch but Rom Manager still thinks the normal version is installed, though now if I hit reboot to recovery from the app it actually takes me to the touch instead of a separate one. Is the app dumb or do I still have an issue? Also I cannot install kernels without tripping the count and having my phone tell me I need to go to a verizon store.
http://wiki.cyanogenmod.org/w/Install_CM_for_jfltevzw
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ROM manager may actually be the issue.
And as far as installing kennels I've never had an issue myself. The last link you posted is about flashing the md2 kernel in order to root the phone. Do you mean that?? Or installing say a KToonsez kernel after you're already rooted and have your custom recovery?
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Mistertac said:
ROM manager may actually be the issue.
And as far as installing kennels I've never had an issue myself. The last link you posted is about flashing the md2 kernel in order to root the phone. Do you mean that?? Or installing say a KToonsez kernel after you're already rooted and have your custom recovery?
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As in installing a KT kernel after rooting and having a custom recovery and ROM on my phone. Right now I have three 3/22 nightly cyanogen up and running but as soon as I install kt it trips the Verizon security and on have to flash back to stock kernel to use my phone. Booting into Odin and canceling out to restart does not let me get past the yellow triangle

[Q] Need Help with Re-rooting Device

Hi all,
I previously had my GS4 rooted on JellyBean, running the stock ROM and ClockworkMod. I upgraded my phone with the Verizon update to 4.4.2 when the update came out. I am now on the NC5 build. I am now trying to root my phone again, to run a different ROM. I still have Rom Manager and SuperSU on my phone from the last root.
I tried using Towelroot yesterday. It said the root was successful. I was able to go into Rom Manager and update CWM, which also said it flashed successfully. SuperSU is working. However, when I try to boot into CWM, it boots into the stock (I think) recovery. I'm trying to run a nandroid backup before I do anything drastic.
Do I have to wipe my device, and start fresh? It seems that CWM is installed, but the stock recovery is overriding it. Sorry if this is a noob-ish question. I've been out of the Root game since my Incredible.
Leach0789 said:
Hi all,
I previously had my GS4 rooted on JellyBean, running the stock ROM and ClockworkMod. I upgraded my phone with the Verizon update to 4.4.2 when the update came out. I am now on the NC5 build. I am now trying to root my phone again, to run a different ROM. I still have Rom Manager and SuperSU on my phone from the last root.
I tried using Towelroot yesterday. It said the root was successful. I was able to go into Rom Manager and update CWM, which also said it flashed successfully. SuperSU is working. However, when I try to boot into CWM, it boots into the stock (I think) recovery. I'm trying to run a nandroid backup before I do anything drastic.
Do I have to wipe my device, and start fresh? It seems that CWM is installed, but the stock recovery is overriding it. Sorry if this is a noob-ish question. I've been out of the Root game since my Incredible.
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I believe when you accept the Verizon OTA update it locks down custom recoveries like CWM/TWRP and the only option is SafeStrap.
scrillakev said:
I believe when you accept the Verizon OTA update it locks down custom recoveries like CWM/TWRP and the only option is SafeStrap.
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Ah ha. Thanks for the reply. So can I proceed with installing SafeStrap, or do I need to uninstall CWM first?
Leach0789 said:
Ah ha. Thanks for the reply. So can I proceed with installing SafeStrap, or do I need to uninstall CWM first?
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Yea if your on a Verizon s4 running any build after MDK... which you are... SafeStrap is your only option.
Hard to say what that will do to your phone after trying to install CWM.... usually it just soft bricks it and you need to Odin back to stock...
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Mistertac said:
Yea if your on a Verizon s4 running any build after MDK... which you are... SafeStrap is your only option.
Hard to say what that will do to your phone after trying to install CWM.... usually it just soft bricks it and you need to Odin back to stock...
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I just started the process of installing SafeStrap, but maybe I will wait until I'm home from work, in case I need to Odin..
Leach0789 said:
I just started the process of installing SafeStrap, but maybe I will wait until I'm home from work, in case I need to Odin..
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May be a good idea just in case. I've seen some on here do the same as you with ROM manager and once they rebooted they were brought to the unauthorized software detected screen.... And without a recovery and a backup already made you'd be out of luck.
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May be a good idea just in case. I've seen some on here do the same as you with ROM manager and once they rebooted they were brought to the unauthorized software detected screen.... And without a recovery and a backup already made you'd be out of luck.
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It would probably be smart to remove CWM with Odin before attempting SafeStrap, correct? Is there a specific thread for removing CWM from a Verizon S4? I searched around but couldn't find anything specific to the S4.
Edit: I found a guide on NasirTech. Looks like that will work.
Leach0789 said:
It would probably be smart to remove CWM with Odin before attempting SafeStrap, correct? Is there a specific thread for removing CWM from a Verizon S4? I searched around but couldn't find anything specific to the S4.
Edit: I found a guide on NasirTech. Looks like that will work.
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Well it didn't actually install it since your kernel doesn't allow for it now but what I would do is just use Odin and start over. Can use a No Wipe file and keep all your stuff.
You could try the method you found... I'm just not familiar with it.
Hard to say really how it will act. Maybe you'll have no issues at all just be able to install SafeStrap. Maybe you'll be able to install it but then it won't boot properly into it... who knows. Both have happened to me with my recovery ( CWM ),.. and using Odin was the only thing that helped.
Good luck .. I'm sure you'll get it going
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Mistertac said:
Well it didn't actually install it since your kernel doesn't allow for it now but what I would do is just use Odin and start over. Can use a No Wipe file and keep all your stuff.
You could try the method you found... I'm just not familiar with it.
Hard to say really how it will act. Maybe you'll have no issues at all just be able to install SafeStrap. Maybe you'll be able to install it but then it won't boot properly into it... who knows. Both have happened to me with my recovery ( CWM ),.. and using Odin was the only thing that helped.
Good luck .. I'm sure you'll get it going
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Thanks! Would you mind helping me find a correct no-wipe file? I found a couple files, but since I'm a new user I can't post links here, so I can't ask anyone if its the correct file or not!
Leach0789 said:
Thanks! Would you mind helping me find a correct no-wipe file? I found a couple files, but since I'm a new user I can't post links here, so I can't ask anyone if its the correct file or not!
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Here you go!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2735172
Yup... Tulsa you're quick!! Lol
Grab the NC5 No Wipe...
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Tulsadiver said:
Here you go!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2735172
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Thanks! You guys rock.

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