Firstly, I apologize if this is a total annoyingly noobish post, but I've not encountered this issue before.
Currently when charging, my phone hangs at 99% for over an hour before hitting 100% charge. Additionally, when not charging, the phone will hang at 9% charge for longer than expected and rapidly deplete below 9%.
Info that may be pertain to the problem:
When I got my Rezound and the extended battery, the first thing I did was root the phone and flash Amon Ra.
I waited for the battery to fully charge, then I flashed CleanROM Kang Tapped Edition. I finished my general phone setup and app install stuff and had about 15% battery left (it was now about 8am, pulled an all-nighter.)
An hour later, I get a phone call and what amounted to literally 9 straight hours of phone talk time with only that small amount of battery left. I had to be plugged in pretty much the whole time and I think when I had under 10% battery when I finally got off the phone.
I have tried wiping battery stats after hitting full charge in Amon Ra as well as using the battery calibrator app. After I fully charged and cleared stats, I waited for the phone to deplete the battery before fully charging (I try to let it charge uninterrupted).
The issue still seems to behave exactly the same. Is it possible that I messed up the battery some by talking with low charge and plugged in for 9 hours?
Thanks in advance for any info or advice.
Try reflashing your ROM. I had the same issue with my phone. Assuming your rooted, try zep's battery calibrater script.
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keynith said:
Try reflashing your ROM. I had the same issue with my phone. Assuming your rooted, try zep's battery calibrater script.
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I am rooted. Looking inside the Die Hard Battery Calibrator script seems to just clear battery stats, which, I believe, happens when the phone is fully charged anyways.
I have been trying the app "Battery Calibration", which also clears battery stats.
There is also the option to wipe battery stats from Scott's tweaks, as well as Amon Ra.
I guess after all the conflicting viewpoints I've heard regarding battery stats, I'm about as confused as ever. I thought that battery stats merely stores data about the power usage, and doesn't actually affect how the OS reads the battery percentage. It boggles me that the OS wouldn't just know the battery voltage, and therefore the remaining charge. Unless batteries have varying voltage (like the Rez 3.7V battery vs the 3.8V battery), this should be more accurate than whatever the hell it is doing.
I'll give the script a shot, I'm just perplexed.
Anybody know of a widget that shows just the mV? Then I can forget about these darn percentages.
*EDIT* Battery Monitor Widget can do mV, among other things.
I wonder if I should try the HTC method contained in the link below:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=712990
Here is some word on battery stats from a Google employee:
https://plus.google.com/105051985738280261832/posts/FV3LVtdVxPT
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So I have just flashed the CM7 ICS Themed BETA, wiping everything.
I then charged to 100 percent, and used Battery Calibration app.
I have just setup some apps, and I have lost 10% battery life in 40 minutes
Display is using 85% battery life apparently.
Please help?
It can take up to a week to fully calibrate the battery. Since the battery doesn't have memory the phone has to get a feel for how much juice it actually has. Try it for a few days running the battery down and then charging it to full without unplugging. If that doesn't work you might want to try charging all the way then reflashing and immediately do a calibration.
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Yeah, I'd calibrate the battery - wouldn't hurt.
Ideally always flash on a 100 % full battery to avoid problems like yours..
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Ideally always flash on a 100 % full battery to avoid problems like yours..
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Cheers guys I've taken this all on board.
I'm on 13hrs on battery, its showing 16pc. Battery calibration app shows 3609mv however. This doesn't seem right to me. Am I correct in assuming the phones battery power is the mv listed and no battery is more like 100mv??
Could anyone explain the 'mv' term to me?
Is 0mv when it powers down? Is this indicative of power?
Thanks.
Lithium ion batteries never fully discharge. If they did the battery would not recharge again.
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mv referers to mV, as in Milivolt. Most li-ion batteries are rated at 3.7V or 3700mV. A nominal full charge should be around 4.2V or 4200mV.
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So I have just flashed the CM7 ICS Themed BETA, wiping everything.
I then charged to 100 percent, and used Battery Calibration app.
I have just setup some apps, and I have lost 10% battery life in 40 minutes
Display is using 85% battery life apparently.
Please help?
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That's 35 minutes of active use. 10% isn't outside the realm of the possible.
I usually can go a full day on 60% battery, but this morning Facebook, the interwebs and text messaging put me from 100% to 77% in the course of 30 minutes. Draining 10% in 45 minutes does not seem out of the realm of possibility
I get mine to last around 20-26 hrs on a single charge, of course depending on use. but i hardly leave the house and dont use it a whole lot. One thing to make sure of is setting up profiles on SetCPU and/or undervolting. i just posted my setup on another thread. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=20284361&postcount=28
so after you clicked the battery calibration button and it said calibration successful, you're wondering why the battery is dropping so fast under use right away?
Easy answer my friend, when you first use the battery calibration app, the first cycle (when phone is being used) will always drain a lot faster than the 2nd and 3rd time around.
The battery calibration app, wipes the battery stats, and makes a new one, however that does take at least 1 - 2 times of a full charge/discharge of the battery. There is a battery tread in the atrix general forum i believe for cailbration steps, etc to go about successfully doing a complete calibration when flashing from rom to rom.
Hope this helped
Hmm, maybe I am just upset that I have to charge every night.
Coming from a BlackBerry 9780 I could go 2 days with semi-heavy use.
I am now using the official Motorola cable, and only charging from very low to full.
Thank you for the advice.
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So I have just flashed the CM7 ICS Themed BETA, wiping everything.
I then charged to 100 percent, and used Battery Calibration app.
I have just setup some apps, and I have lost 10% battery life in 40 minutes
Display is using 85% battery life apparently.
Please help?
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Try getting one of these:
4800mah extended battery
1900mah extended battery
Problem Solved.
Bluetooth radio was killing my battery. WiFi is fine leaving it on as it disables in stand by, but bluetooth was absolutely draining everything.
thanks for the update
I agree, 10% loss in 40 minutes of active usage is not bad. If the OP had better battery life before he flashed to new ICS themed CM7 beta rom, maybe the new rom is to blame??? I'd OC/UV, possibly with the latest faux123 kernel.
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Problem Solved.
Bluetooth radio was killing my battery. WiFi is fine leaving it on as it disables in stand by, but bluetooth was absolutely draining everything.
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Thanks for the tip!!!
Not sure why, but I restarted my phone and it went from 50% down to 5 % power? Had it on the charger all night and it was still at 5%?? Took it off the charger for a few hours and im still at 5%. Tried wiping stats and had no luck? Any Help??
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Not sure why, but I restarted my phone and it went from 50% down to 5 % power? Had it on the charger all night and it was still at 5%?? Took it off the charger for a few hours and im still at 5%. Tried wiping stats and had no luck? Any Help??
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Drain all battery and charge it from zero. Let it be fully charged before starting it. If you run CWM you can wipe battery state.
Your question is in wrong section in the forum. Try starting the thread in General.
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+1 this -- and some additional detail...
Wiping battery stats does NOT improve actual battery life. If done properly, and coupled with a calibration cycle, it can increase the accuracy with which your battery reports its current charge. Ideal process is as follows..
Charge to 100%
Reboot into CWM
wipe battery stats under" advanced"
Reboot
Charge back to 100%
Let it DIE (go to 0%) from normal use, DO NOT charge it during the cycle
Re-charge to 100% and you're all recalibrated.
From the sound of it, don't be surprised if your phone sits at 5% for hours. After the calibration, your battery history should be a relatively smooth, downward sloping curve.
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Check Settings>Battery Information>Battery Usage and see if a process named RILD is using a high percentage of your battery usage. That process - a very necessary Motorola radio daemon - is wreaking some havoc by causing very rapid battery discharge and also preventing normal charging.
No solution for you but thought I would let you know before you try too many different "solutions" needlessly.
Thanks!
Jim
I tried searching this in a number of places. I couldn't find what I was looking for, although it didn't help I had trouble using the right words to search for it with, but here goes.
I'm running CleanROM Reborn 1.1, I love it! Other info is also in my signature. Once I turned on the percentage number for my battery level, I really started to notice this.
The number will stay at a number for awhile sometimes, even when I use it, then other times it will jump several points within a minute. It doesn't drain consistently. Anyone have any insight or suggestions? It's more annoying than anything else. My battery life is alright.
I would've tried wiping battery stats, but I hear that doesn't really do anything.
Thanks.
download Battery Calibration from the Google Play Store, then charge your phone to %100. open the Battery Calibration app and calibrate it. There is also instructions inside the App if my instructions are unclear
Im going to try this but for some reason mine only go to about 96%. Never 100% lately so I am not sure if I should do it then or just leave it charged until it is 100% and hope it gets there.
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Im going to try this but for some reason mine only go to about 96%. Never 100% lately so I am not sure if I should do it then or just leave it charged until it is 100% and hope it gets there.
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Not to hijack the thread, but the phone is designed to fully charge and then discharge to 95% and then charge to 100% again, rinse, and repeat. This is to keep the battery from becoming destroyed by overcharging. Maybe that's what you are seeing, Bambino.
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Iceman248 said:
The number will stay at a number for awhile sometimes, even when I use it, then other times it will jump several points within a minute. It doesn't drain consistently. Anyone have any insight or suggestions? It's more annoying than anything else. My battery life is alright.
I would've tried wiping battery stats, but I hear that doesn't really do anything.
Thanks.
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I've noticed this too on Ics leak roms. It sips power with screen off, then drains quickly when on sometimes and hardly at all other times. Mine just sat at 82% for the past 20 minutes, then dropped to 76% over the past five. I've heard battery calibration is bunk, but I'll try the previously mentioned app and see.
Some roms do not use a percentage because they are so inaccurate and cause the user to obsess
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A little info on batteries
The important thing to remember about Lithium Ion batteries is that when you do charge them, bring them up to full charge before taking them off the charger.
They all have a circuit board in them that remembers a full charge. (If you've every taken one apart you'd see this) When you charge them this chip will restore the amount of power that has drained.
Partially charging them will screw up this function. And screw up the battery.
Deep Cycling is good for them but not all the time. Once a month is good for them.
A good rule of thumb, but not absolutely necessary is to discharge them 50% and then bring them up to a full charge. Obviously this is not always possible when playing video games or watching movies. I always try to leave it on the charger when watching movies in the cradle.
There is an app on the Market called Battery Repair. It makes an attempt to reset this chip on the battery by meticulous monitoring the charge and capacity left in the battery. Running diagnostics and setting the battery to its best state. Its the only one out there that does this.
Battery Calibration app is good if you change roms or batteries alot.
Here is what it does:
Calibration needs to be done after flashing a new ROM, but you can calibrate any time you think your battery is miscalibrated. This program does it by removing the batterystats.bin system file. The OS generates a new clean batterystats file soon, thus any fake information from the previous ROM is removed.
It's suggested, but not necessary, to let the phone fully discharge after calibration, then charged to 100% without break.
The app shows your actual battery status, and only allows you to start the calibration (i.e. removes the file) when it's fully charged, unless you force earlier calibration.
The voltage meter can be useful too. Full charge is around 4200mV.
For some odd reason my battery icon shows 71%, but if I go to batt status it shows 62%. I flashed a diff batt mod and it changed to the new one, but it's still on 71%. Any ideas how I can make it show the correct status?
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For some odd reason my battery icon shows 71%, but if I go to batt status it shows 62%. I flashed a diff batt mod and it changed to the new one, but it's still on 71%. Any ideas how I can make it show the correct status?
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let the phone run till it dies and then charge it. that should reset the battery gauge.
Legacystar said:
let the phone run till it dies and then charge it. that should reset the battery gauge.
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Will try that....thanks!!!
Never let the battery drain to zero, it's bad for you battery. These aren't the old Ni-Cad batteries from the 80's but Lithium ion batteries If you want to reset the battery stats just download Battery Calibration from the play store. Charge phone to full and then hit Calibrate and it will reset your stats. Unless something is different with the GS4 or their TW OS any newly installed rom should have this done after installation
Here is info on what you should know about today's batteries.
http://batteryuniversity.com/
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Never let the battery drain to zero, it's bad for you battery. These aren't the old Ni-Cad batteries from the 80's but Lithium ion batteries If you want to reset the battery stats just download Battery Calibration from the play store. Charge phone to full and then hit Calibrate and it will reset your stats. Unless something is different with the GS4 or their TW OS any newly installed rom should have this done after installation
Here is info on what you should know about today's batteries.
http://batteryuniversity.com/
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doing it constantly is bad, once will not effect it.
Eric214 said:
Never let the battery drain to zero, it's bad for you battery. These aren't the old Ni-Cad batteries from the 80's but Lithium ion batteries If you want to reset the battery stats just download Battery Calibration from the play store. Charge phone to full and then hit Calibrate and it will reset your stats. Unless something is different with the GS4 or their TW OS any newly installed rom should have this done after installation
Here is info on what you should know about today's batteries.
http://batteryuniversity.com/
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The statement about li-ion not being akin to ni-cad is correct. The rest is not.
No app is capable of battery calibration. The myth of wiping battery stats to calibrate the battery was clearly and concisely debunked a year and a half ago. Apps such as Battery Calibration ate pure snake oil, as they do not affect battery indication in any way, shape, or form. Additionally, there is absolutely no benefit to wiping battery stats after flashing a rom.
The fact of the matter, as verified by Battery University, is that a complete discharge/charge cycle is the only method of "calibration" available to an end user. By performing a single cycle, the charge and discharge flags are reset. Only a single cycle is needed and this is something that need be performed more than a few times a year, as it wail shorten the battery's serviceable lifespan.
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Ummm I said if you want to reset you stats not actually calibrate your battery. That app to clear stats is called Battery Calibrator. Never did i say calibrate battery
Eric214 said:
Ummm I said if you want to reset you stats not actually calibrate your battery. That app to clear stats is called Battery Calibrator. Never did i say calibrate battery
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There is a far easier way to clear battery stats. Charge to phone to full or near full, and then unplug it. Voila! Regardless, wiping battery stats is not going to do anything for the op.
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Well a friend of mine had the same issue with "stuck battery %" and that did the trick soooo just helping out with what worked for another is all. whatever
That actually didn't do the trick, as nothing relevant to reported charge is contained in the file that is wiped. While it may seem logical to ascribe the fix to a proximal act, it is actually a case of post hoc ergo propter hoc.
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There is a far easier way to clear battery stats. Charge to phone to full or near full, and then unplug it. Voila! Regardless, wiping battery stats is not going to do anything for the op.
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Neither did this. The battery calibrator app did nothing either. My phone is still showing a percent up top that is not what shows in settings/more/battery. More news, my phone showed this morning, after I unplugged it from all night charge, that it had been running on battery for 8 hours 2 minutes. The whole battery status is fubar somehow.
Just let the phone die, it works , and its easy
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Just let the phone die, it works , and its easy
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That's the only thing I haven't tried. Will do that today. Will report.
Didn't work. Gonna have to dirty flash the ROM.
My S4 (2 months old) dies with the battery at 20%. After reboot (plugged in) it still says 20%. Why does that happen? It should say 0%!
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It seems that the battery gives an incorrect fake voltage sometimes. To correct that I turned the camer flash on, using a flashlight utility, and after a few seconds I clicked the quick start button in the battery calibration utility you can access dialing *#0228#.
Now it show 11% that should almost be correct, and it's now charging. I am charging it in slow mode at 500mA just to give it a proper charge.
I'll update you as soon as I have results.
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Nothing. I think the battery is broken.
It dies at about 20%-30% and when the phone restarts, plugged in, it says it's 20%.
I recently had my Thunderbolt replaced with a refurb from Verizon. When I got the new phone I removed my old battery, which was working fine, from my old phone and placed it in my new phone. Now in the new phone I fully charge the battery and I get about 45 minutes to an hour of battery life before my phone is down to 2% battery life. However, the phone then has the same battery life as it did in my old phone, it just still says there is only 2% battery life left.
I'd tried completely killing the battery then recharging fully for about a week. The battery stats never reset.
I then rooted my phone, charged it completely and purged the battery stats. The issue persists.
Sounds like an aftermarket, non-oem battery...is it?
If it isn't a stock oem battery and especially if running ICS, it will not read correctly.
It may charge and discharge properly, but may never read accurately.
If it is an oem battery, then you got me.
Well i did this thing on my cousin's Htc Amaze a long time ago
i used die hard battrey calibirator to calibrate the battery. the phone was showing 2 percent supposed to be 170 percent so i pressed calibrate button and it worked for about a week until the battery had the same error
try doing that it might do something... or nothing at all but worth a try
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Sounds like an aftermarket, non-oem battery...is it?
If it isn't a stock oem battery and especially if running ICS, it will not read correctly.
It may charge and discharge properly, but may never read accurately.
If it is an oem battery, then you got me.
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Nope, it's the original battery I received with the phone. I'd understand if it were just time for a replacement but the fact that it stays awake at 2% for so long leads me to believe it's not actually an issue with the battery.
If you calibrate the battery incorrectly it can make the phone display the wrong amount. I did this before using die hard battery calibrator. To manually recalibrate. Discharge the phone totally and then charge it until the green light comes on. Boot into recovery and then wipe battery stats in recovery. That might help you out but I somehow doubt itm
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I tried using a battery calibration app and haven't seen any change.
I also looked for my batterystats.bin file in /data/system to manually delete using a file explorer but I didn't see it there. Does anyone know why that may be or if that could contribute to the issue?
I also looked for my batterystats.bin file in /data/system to manually delete using a file explorer but I didn't see it there. Does anyone know why that may be or if that could contribute to the issue?
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Disregard that, turns out I didn't have ES File Explorer with root permission.
Li-on batteries don't actually perform the way many people think they do. They do not discharge in a linear fashion. That's what makes metering them on the phone so complicated. As the battery ages it's non-linear output changes as well, and that's what the statistics are designed to correct for when displaying a charge level.
Here's how you know your battery is a dud.
Pay attention to the voltage. As a Li-on battery discharges it discharges in a very flat way. The battery is fully charged when the voltage curve of the battery begins to ramp up sharply. The battery is technically dead when the voltage begins to drop off sharply. What ultimately renders a Li-on battery garbage is when that fat flat spot in it's voltage/charge curve drops below a threshold that will power the device. If the battery is displaying adequate voltage for a reasonable length of time and the phone still reads inaccurate, then it's the fault of the phone.