Hey so I know that there was already a forum about battery life on the Rezound, but it was a bit outdated when it came to sense 4 roms. (S-OFF)
Here is so far my best combination to get the best battery!
Flash the newest leak here
http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/0...-0-3-for-the-htc-rezound-includes-new-radios/
twice by placing it in the root of your SD card and entering fastboot. Make sure to flash this twice!
Then I did a factory reset just to be safe. Flash the correct recovery you want then install the AWESOME team PkMN Rom
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1630696
MAKE SURE TO KEEP THE KERNEL from the rom! It runs smooth and super cool
So far im at 73% with 6 hours, which may not seem like much; but it was way much more than what I was getting before
codenaruto said:
Hey so I know that there was already a forum about battery life on the Rezound, but it was a bit outdated when it came to sense 4 roms. (S-OFF)
Here is so far my best combination to get the best battery!
Flash the newest leak here
http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/0...-0-3-for-the-htc-rezound-includes-new-radios/
twice by placing it in the root of your SD card and entering fastboot. Make sure to flash this twice!
Then I did a factory reset just to be safe. Flash the correct recovery you want then install the AWESOME team PkMN Rom
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1630696
MAKE SURE TO KEEP THE KERNEL from the newest leak! It runs smooth and super cool
So far im at 73% with 6 hours, which may not seem like much; but it was way much more than what I was getting before
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What did you do about the rom installing its kernel when you flashed it? You removed it?
That ROM doesn't create the phxxx file to flash so there is nothing to erase.
So in otherwords u would flash the Rom then the flash the latest update, bc if u r soff pkmn Rom installs old kernal.
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Since we are now S-OFF we no longer need the PBxxx.img file to reboot into bootloader to install the kernel.
the kernel gets installed with the ROM.
you also don't need to worry about kernels when doing a nandroid back-up from say, ICS to a GB ROM, any more.
so to the OP, you are running the older kernel, unless you installed the new leak kernel afterwards, which I would like to know if you did, because I tried running the newest leak boot.img(kernel) on the PkMn ROM and it wouldn't boot.
i believe that in scott's thread to the stock rooted version of the latest update he has the PH98IMG that is the kernel. You could just install PKMN and then install that throught the HBoot
dalvear88 said:
i believe that in scott's thread to the stock rooted version of the latest update he has the PH98IMG that is the kernel. You could just install PKMN and then install that throught the HBoot
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it wouldn't boot up for me, perhaps others will have better luck.
andybones said:
it wouldn't boot up for me, perhaps others will have better luck.
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i'm gonna try it now. I have S-off on the phone by default so i hope it works lol. i'll let ya know in a few if i have the same results. I was thinking that would work but i may be wrong....
Yes like Andy said, if you're s off the kernel is flashed from recovery when you flash the rom. That's what I was asking if you removed but that answered my question. I was thinking there was a ramdisk difference in the sense 4 kernel and the stock sense 3.6 kernel. I know you said you flashed the RUU like you would for s on, but since theres an "(S-OFF)" in your post I was thinking you were s off and flashed the pokemon kernel with the rom, which would just mean that you're loving the same kernel everybody else is running who hasn't run the lasted leak hboot update.
It's scary that people just flash away without knowing what their doing...
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it wouldn't boot up for me, perhaps others will have better luck.
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I would think it wouldnt boot for anybody. The pokemon rom is sense 4, so you need a sense 4 kernel. The latest leak is a sense 3.6 kernel. In theory it shouldnt work at all.
If you do exactly what the OP says, step by step, the pokemon rom overwrites the latest leak rom and its kernel in its entirety. so he is just running pokemon rom.
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Yes like Andy said, if you're s off the kernel is flashed from recovery when you flash the rom. That's what I was asking if you removed but that answered my question. I was thinking there was a ramdisk difference in the sense 4 kernel and the stock sense 3.6 kernel. I know you said you flashed the RUU like you would for s on, but since theres an "(S-OFF)" in your post I was thinking you were s off and flashed the pokemon kernel with the rom, which would just mean that you're loving the same kernel everybody else is running who hasn't run the lasted leak hboot update.
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^^^This^^^^ Ding Ding Ding
mjones73 said:
It's scary that people just flash away without knowing what their doing...
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I agree, but it's a lot less harmful is you're s-off. The only thing that can really hurt you are radios and bootloader. S-on is a different story.
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I agree, but it's a lot less harmful is you're s-off. The only thing that can really hurt you are radios and bootloader. S-on is a different story.
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S-on is almost completely safe ... that's why htc did the dev unlock!
With s-off there are way more ways to brick your phone it doesn't do any checking to see if things are signed or work or anything... that is not safer than s-on.
If you don't know what your doing htc dev unlock is a perfectly fine option.
If your not running the newest kernel then the radios must be what are really making the difference
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Lol, I think you have that backwards.....
Sorry! Whoops I meant to say keep kernel from ROM. Sorry guys! Should have checked my post before
and even more,
"It turns out that this doesn't include new radios after all."
from android police
Which means that the it's just the ROM after all!
I guess this thread can be deleted then
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If your not running the newest kernel then the radios must be what are really making the difference
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unless he didn't flash the last RUU, the radios are the same from the last leak.
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This is beginning to get out of control with all of the thread jacking and such with mainver issues. Anyway, read on.
NEW INFO: FLASH THIS: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=23169557&postcount=4\
PROBLEM SOLVED!
Old info if you care:
Q. What is MainVer?
A. MainVer is a string that HBOOT keeps track of that keeps the latest version of the RUU or PH98IMG.zip that has been flashed.
Q. Why does HTC have this?
A. In order to prevent downgrading with an RUU.
Q. I haven't run an RUU. How was my MainVer updated?
A. There are 2 reasons your MainVer could have been updated at this point.
The Original ICS Leak
DSB's new BAMF Rom (downloaded 1/17/2012 or later)
The original ICS leak that some of you flashed was still in RUU image form. Unfortunately, this was distributed with an updated MainVer string in the android-info.txt. When this was flashed, the new MainVer string was recorded into your device. DSB for some reason also included this new android-info.txt in his kernel PH98IMG.zip that is packed with his rom. I am not quite sure why he did that.
Q. What does this mean for me?
A. See new text at the top
Q. Why won't devs just add the new mainver to their roms to make my life easier?
A. They could, but then they would be forcing everyone to have this problem, not just you. It would also prevent everyone from using an RUU to repair their phones until a new one came out.
More Info:
No matter if you are going GB->GB or GB->ICS or ICS->GB you will need to have the correct mainver for your device. If you aren't having trouble going from rom to rom right now, you shouldn't even be looking at this guide. But if you got your mainver updated, you need to replace the android-info.txt for every single rom forever (until a new RUU comes out and it is safe to unify everyone's mainver)
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That was quick! Nice work, Con. Hopefully this will help everyone out having these issues. I'll make sure I bookmark this page to link to if anyone should have issues. Thanks!
WasabiWa83 said:
That was quick! Nice work, Con. Hopefully this will help everyone out having these issues. I'll make sure I bookmark this page to link to if anyone should have issues. Thanks!
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Thanks! That is a good idea about the bookmark. Ill do that too.
Yeah I had to answer this question a few times... this Q/A should make it easier.
I want to be sure I understand this correctly. If I flash an ICS rom I need to use the android-info mainver source 3.10.605.7 and if I want to revert back to a stock rom I need to use the android-info mainver source 1.02.605.6?
I have not installed any ICS roms yet, waiting for some more of the bugs to get worked out. I've been reading where many people are having issues with installing ICS roms and struggling with reverting back to stock.
I will try to make that more clear. Hold on.
I make a motion to sticky this thread. Anyone 2nd this motion?
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con247 said:
I will try to make that more clear. Hold on.
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Thanks Con for the quick reply! I like to look over these forums and make sure I'm understanding some of the issues that are currently going on. I've been flashing roms for awhile but still consider myself a noob. Thanks again!
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I make a motion to sticky this thread. Anyone 2nd this motion?
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Yeah, definitely a 2nd for very this useful post. Especially since a lot of the ROM threads are getting off topic because of this. I saw Scott posted a link to this thread in his release posts. Good idea for the Devs to link back here too
Yeah this needs to be stickied...
Con... here is a post I did explaining Mainver... It is a bit more simplified, might be easier to follow for the new guys. (it also explains what RUU files are and what they do)
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RUU files are the official software releases from HTC.
RUU files are signed. (They give proper "official" codes to hboot to get past the s=on security)
This means that they can flash all parts of the device, even the bootloader and radio firmware, which we can not normally flash because it is write locked. (do to s=on we can't flash them even with root)
Sometimes people have issues and need to get the phone back to pure stock so they use the RUU.
Mainver is data on the software version number of the kernel (I believe... it may be for some other part, either way it is version info)
Think V1... V1.2... V1.5... V1.5.5
Because of s=on we are not allowed to "downgrade/revert" to older software versions.
The leaked ICS build has a newer Mainver, some people flashed the leak unmodified, and that changed the Mainver info. Now they need to use a special trick to trick the s=on security to allow flashing of older kernels. The ICS ROMs we have now, have been modified so they do not change the Mainver. This makes it easier to go back to GB or switch to other ROMs.
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I am sorry but I am trying to make sense of all this. I am on Scott's CleanRom 2.1 will I need to use these instructions to go back to my stock room? This is my first HTC, I've only had Motorola phones up till now and I hate to admit it but this is all a bit over my head. I have been studying these forums for the last 2 days and I really have no clue how to use the backup I made of my stock GB Rom or even what kernel to use. I do regret not waiting to mess with this phone. Any help is greatly appriciated and I love all the work you have all put into this phone. Thanks in advance.
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I am sorry but I am trying to make sense of all this. I am on Scott's CleanRom 2.1 will I need to use these instructions to go back to my stock room? This is my first HTC, I've only had Motorola phones up till now and I hate to admit it but this is all a bit over my head. I have been studying these forums for the last 2 days and I really have no clue how to use the backup I made of my stock GB Rom or even what kernel to use. I do regret not waiting to mess with this phone. Any help is greatly appriciated and I love all the work you have all put into this phone. Thanks in advance.
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You're pretty much good because Scott's ROM does not update your MainVer. This is only for those ROMs that updated the MainVer. All you will need to do is restore your nand and flash the stock rooted kernel with Scott's Clean Flash tool. It's really more simple than you would think. You can find the Clean Flash tool and the stock rooted kernel in the dev forum. Just make sure that there is no PH98IMG.img on your ext sd card before you try to revert to your nandroid. Once you have restored your nand, you need to get to HBoot using the clean flash tool to make sure that you flash the stock rooted kernel. If you have the PH98IMG on your ext SD card, you would be kind of boned. Hope this helps a little.
So I flashed BAMF once, but it was weeks ago and I've since been using GingerSense without any issues, and that flashed fine after I tossed his boot.img back on, and then again after I did a full wipe a few nights ago. Is there any way to easily tell which mainver we're currently on? I'm assuming I'm ok since I haven't had to do anything else while flashing his ROM, guess I just wanna make sure.
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So I flashed BAMF once, but it was weeks ago and I've since been using GingerSense without any issues, and that flashed fine after I tossed his boot.img back on, and then again after I did a full wipe a few nights ago. Is there any way to easily tell which mainver we're currently on? I'm assuming I'm ok since I haven't had to do anything else while flashing his ROM, guess I just wanna make sure.
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I believe mainver only changed if you flashed rezound cubed 1.0.2. If you didn't flash that, like I did, you should be fine.
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Well if that's true then yeah I'm ok, I see 1.0.2 is from 1/17 and I know I flashed it well before that, so I guess that explains why I haven't had any issues. Thanks!
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Well if that's true then yeah I'm ok, I see 1.0.2 is from 1/17 and I know I flashed it well before that, so I guess that explains why I haven't had any issues. Thanks!
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Thanks, I added that date to the OP
It worked
Wasabi, I appriciate you giving me the little extra i needed to get back to stock. Thanks for the help.
So, is the MainVer stuck at the higher version number even if you manually flash the older boot.img from the PC?
The boot.img is independent of the mainver. Once you have it set higher, it can never go back. Possibly on an S-OFF device, but that would be pointless.
Oh thrill. So no ICS for us who flashed the dsb kernel? I hope the real HTC ICS is out soon then.....
Ok I'm all set now, I got everything flashed, but now I sill have question.
I started with the ENG H boot then I wen to the safer hacked one.
I'm looking for ROMS now and they have a PH98IMG file. Is that the kernel or updated firmware? I wouldn't want to flash different firmware right?
also what about the old firmware patch for ICS roms?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1614180
Do I need to be using that as Im still on the GM H boot?
and finally what about mainver errors? since Im s off will that still warn me?
I just want to be careful not to do anything I shouldn't now that most of the safety nets are gone.
Also sorry of my questions are silly, its late at work and I've been starting at this screen all day. Its time to go.
thanks
loki993 said:
Ok I'm all set now, I got everything flashed, but now I sill have question.
I started with the ENG H boot then I wen to the safer hacked one.
I'm looking for ROMS now and they have a PH98IMG file. Is that the kernel or updated firmware? I wouldn't want to flash different firmware right?
also what about the old firmware patch for ICS roms?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1614180
Do I need to be using that as Im still on the GM H boot?
and finally what about mainver errors? since Im s off will that still warn me?
I just want to be careful not to do anything I shouldn't now that most of the safety nets are gone.
Also sorry of my questions are silly, its late at work and I've been starting at this screen all day. Its time to go.
thanks
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ROMs generally will never have firmware present unless it specifically states otherwise (perhaps somebody will release one after an OTA if there's a new firmware update). Prior to last week, we all had S-ON (well most of us) so all ROMs came with a script that would dump the boot.img (kernel and RAMdisk) into a PH98IMG.zip, then reboot to bootloader so you can flash it.
Use the old firmware patch for ICS ROMs only if you are on HBOOT 2.11 or lower.
I'm not sure about mainver issues... I don't think they matter now... but if you do get that error there's a simple fix thats been around for awhile.
I am on 2.11 so I would need the patch. Is it ok to use even it I'm not on am ics Rom, should I flash it just in case or wait until I need it.
Yeah I was kinda thinking the same thing about the mainver. Not sure either though
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loki993 said:
I am on 2.11 so I would need the patch. Is it ok to use even it I'm not on am ics Rom, should I flash it just in case or wait until I need it.
Yeah I was kinda thinking the same thing about the mainver. Not sure either though
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The patch is apart of the system so you only flash it when you are going to run a ics Rom based on the ics firmware. You already have the patch files in the Rom you are running if its GB. But when you flash a new Rom the system is wiped which is why you need to flash the patch. I hope I explained that ok.
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Thanks for this thread, answered some of my nagging questions
Andro X said:
The patch is apart of the system so you only flash it when you are going to run a ics Rom based on the ics firmware. You already have the patch files in the Rom you are running if its GB. But when you flash a new Rom the system is wiped which is why you need to flash the patch. I hope I explained that ok.
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I understand, its ok. You right though dont know what I was thinking, of course the system gets wiped.
Im debating which ROM to run now. I was going to go with one of the BAMFs, but I also would mind a senseless ROM either.
Is it wrong that I actually kinda like Sense, I just wish it didnt bog the phone at times.
Also I thinking its probably best to say on the 2.11 firmware, that way I can still run GB if I want and go to ICS ROMS too if I want with the patch.
I like sense too especially since this is my first HTC phone so its something different for me. I had Motorola's in the past. I'm on GB firmware with the eng hboot and running ics Clean Rom.
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Well Sense is certainly an upgrade for me from TouchWiz....I miss a few things but overall it is better...
I think you would be happy with CleanROM, extremely fast and reliable ICS build. You would never know it wasn't stock.
I have my own silly question...why do I need htcdev unlocked to get s-off. Just rooted and s-offed my of MT4G for the fun of it. Seems like we should be able to s-off without official unlock support
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Geoi1006 said:
I have my own silly question...why do I need htcdev unlocked to get s-off. Just rooted and s-offed my of MT4G for the fun of it. Seems like we should be able to s-off without official unlock support
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Not sure about MT4G, but I don't think the control bear program can access everything it needs on the Rezound without being unlocked. Just a guess mind you .
Geoi1006 said:
I have my own silly question...why do I need htcdev unlocked to get s-off. Just rooted and s-offed my of MT4G for the fun of it. Seems like we should be able to s-off without official unlock support
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You have to be rooted to acquire s-off. Up until this point you had to be unlocked to acquire root. Now, if you are s-off you can root without unlocking. It's a vicious circle! Lol!
I just haven't gotten to unlock since I don't have home internet access
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Im S-ON So When I Try To Flash A ICS ROM I Also Have To Flash The Rls Kernel. Well Unfortunately I Haven't Been Able To Try ICS ROMS Becouse Whenever I Try To Flash The Kernel It Says It's A Bad Package And Won't Flash. I've Re-Dwnloaded Multiple Times And Its Still Just Not Working. does Anyone Have Any Advice?
CDMA or GSM? What are you using to flash? What rom are you flashing? and why are you using that kernel? It's a little outdated...
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CDMA or GSM? What are you using to flash? What rom are you flashing? and why are you using that kernel? It's a little outdated...
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CDMA, 4EXT, A Couple ICS Roms, And I Am Useing The Kernel Becouse Since I'm S-ON I Have To Flash This So I Dont Get Reboots On Startup And Such. And You Say Is Is A Little Outdated So Is There A New Kernel For This Problem?
Have you set up 4ext to know that you are s-on? I thought since that option is there, there is no need to flash a kernel separately? I'm not to sure as I am not s-on. And I don't think there is another kernel right now. but most ICS roms run best on the stock kernel for now.
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Have you set up 4ext to know that you are s-on? I thought since that option is there, there is no need to flash a kernel separately? I'm not to sure as I am not s-on. And I don't think there is another kernel right now. but most ICS roms run best on the stock kernel for now.
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Yes I Have And There Isn't But It Seems Like Something Is Wrong With The Kernel Zip But Thanks Anyway
Flash image GUI?
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Have you tried to re-download the zip?
Threevo said:
Flash image GUI?
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????
netwokz said:
Have you tried to re-download the zip?
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Yes Multiple Times
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Yes Multiple Times
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Well, I'm not sure how much more help I can be... Have you looked into downgrading or using the new Juopunutbear method to get s-off? would make life a lot easier...
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Well, I'm not sure how much more help I can be... Have you looked into downgrading or using the new Juopunutbear method to get s-off? would make life a lot easier...
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I Have, Just Wasn't Sure I Wanted To. Have You Tried One Of These? And Thanks.
No I have not, I've been unlocked since the beginning. I know the downgrade method is fairly easy now, but still tricky. The Juopunutbear I hear doesn't require you to downgrade. So I'm not sure, just read up on both threads and see which you are more comfortable with. If you don't want to, I'm sure someone else will chime in and give more advice on your current problem.
I've tried the hboot downgrade and its was so much easier than I'd expected. After finding the right files for my phone, the whole process took me about 20 mins. Hardest part was pricking the phone LOL. After that it was just load closeones's toolkit, and it pretty much does the rest of the work for u. Just read the guide 4x and watch some YouTube view beforehand.
I did a lot of reading and read 1000x diff guides on how to flash and used so many diff flash method to het my phone out of bootloop. So by the time I got fed up and decided to downgrade, i had some decent flashing experience.
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I used the live CD and had my phone downgraded and s-off inside of an hour. As long as you can follow the directions to a T, it's painless.
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My buddy and i were one of the first among to attempt the bricking method
(scary as hell at first) and it was actually very simple. And i say first because we had only seen a few who had officially posted about it i could be wrong lol my laptop if dual booted with Linux so all i did was set up my other computer and ran the first set on that one, then ran the linux part on my alienware. The worse you can do is brick it- but then again thats what you want. I accidentally upgraded my firmware and now im 1.5 S-OFF lol doesnt bug me at all but my wife's 1.4 S-OFF as soon as mine was done. just read, read, READ before you attempt it and make sure you have every code written down or copied and its cake man! no shame in trying
Due to WiFi issues on the release day OS, I took the 1.22 OTA and screwed root. I knew it would happen but the fixes outweighed the issues. I waited to see if root would be achieved via Regaw or the like since I didn't want to lose any of my configuration. Now... Sense 4.1 was just too tempting to pass up and since I wasn't rooted anyways, I went for it.
I decided to attempt root and start from scratch anyways as I was having random app issues and some bloat problems.
The root method from HTC Dev worked flawlessly on the new new OTA and I was able to load TWRP and SuperUser via fastboot (instructions can be found by searching as I did).
So now here is the question: where does this leave me as far as flashing ROMs... Obviously I am aware that I am S-On and know those limitations. My issue is if and where any limits may apply now that I am HBOOT 1.19. Will I be stuck with only 2.13 ROMs that we're built based on the new HBOOT or can I flash any Rom based on 2.13 (or even older revisions)? I cant risk bricking so I am asking to be cautious as well as your answers providing any new users coming in with new phones running the latest OTA.
Thanks
Why did HTC update hboot 1.15? Because they discovered an exploit flaw that we could gain S-OFF with, which is FAR better than being on HTC Dumlock. If you are not concerned with obtaining S-OFF via LazyPanda and the like, this should not be a concern.
Also, being on the new hboot means that backwards compatibility to ROMs that are not based on the new OTA could become an issue.
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New h boot for you only means that you won't be able to get s-off for a very long time probably since nobody has figured out how to even s-off h boot 1.15 yet. You shouldn't have an issue flashing any rom from my understanding as long as it's through recovery.
Edit : I would listen to Michael on this one regarding ROMs sounds like he knows more lol.
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natefuhr said:
Due to WiFi issues on the release day OS, I took the 1.22 OTA and screwed root. I knew it would happen but the fixes outweighed the issues. I waited to see if root would be achieved via Regaw or the like since I didn't want to lose any of my configuration. Now... Sense 4.1 was just too tempting to pass up and since I wasn't rooted anyways, I went for it.
I decided to attempt root and start from scratch anyways as I was having random app issues and some bloat problems.
The root method from HTC Dev worked flawlessly on the new new OTA and I was able to load TWRP and SuperUser via fastboot (instructions can be found by searching as I did).
So now here is the question: where does this leave me as far as flashing ROMs... Obviously I am aware that I am S-On and know those limitations. My issue is if and where any limits may apply now that I am HBOOT 1.19. Will I be stuck with only 2.13 ROMs that we're built based on the new HBOOT or can I flash any Rom based on 2.13 (or even older revisions)? I cant risk bricking so I am asking to be cautious as well as your answers providing any new users coming in with new phones running the latest OTA.
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Yes, you will be stuck flashing 2.13 roms with the 2.13 kernel. However, you can use one of the workaround methods (fastboot, flash image gui, twrp dumlock) to flashing an older kernel, and then flash roms based on a previous OTA base.
A ROM doesn't include an HBoot though, so there shouldn't be ROM/HBoot compatibility issues, right?
No, you can flash whatever version of android you want
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I don't think that's quite right (I could be wrong though).
If he wants to flash a JB-based ROM, he will definitely have to flash the boot.img separately via one of the workarounds mentioned.
If he wants to move between Sense-based ROMs, he *might* be OK. But he will not get any tweaks the dev may have made to the kernel included with his respective ROM.
I was referring to the question above me that asked about ROMs interfering with hboots
Having an old ROM on a new hboot won't cause issues.
Naturally, you need to have a working kernel for your ROM. So yes, you'll need to make sure you have the right kernel.
If he goes from any ROM to a ROM on a different base you'll have to install the correct kernel. . But I don't think that's what he was asking
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Got it. I thought you were replying in general.
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Due to WiFi issues on the release day OS, I took the 1.22 OTA and screwed root. I knew it would happen but the fixes outweighed the issues. I waited to see if root would be achieved via Regaw or the like since I didn't want to lose any of my configuration. Now... Sense 4.1 was just too tempting to pass up and since I wasn't rooted anyways, I went for it.
I decided to attempt root and start from scratch anyways as I was having random app issues and some bloat problems.
The root method from HTC Dev worked flawlessly on the new new OTA and I was able to load TWRP and SuperUser via fastboot (instructions can be found by searching as I did).
So now here is the question: where does this leave me as far as flashing ROMs... Obviously I am aware that I am S-On and know those limitations. My issue is if and where any limits may apply now that I am HBOOT 1.19. Will I be stuck with only 2.13 ROMs that we're built based on the new HBOOT or can I flash any Rom based on 2.13 (or even older revisions)? I cant risk bricking so I am asking to be cautious as well as your answers providing any new users coming in with new phones running the latest OTA.
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I'd like to re-root after taking the OTA and I've searched all over for the instructions on how to load TWRP and SuperUser via fastboot, but can't find it. Can you assist?
Thanks
Rxpert said:
I was referring to the question above me that asked about ROMs interfering with hboots
Having an old ROM on a new hboot won't cause issues.
Naturally, you need to have a working kernel for your ROM. So yes, you'll need to make sure you have the right kernel.
If he goes from any ROM to a ROM on a different base you'll have to install the correct kernel. . But I don't think that's what he was asking
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but, a ROM includes a Kernel, so when you flash a ROM you're swapping kernels.
The only kernel incompatibility would be if you flashed a ROM then flashed a Kernel, then you have to be careful.
If anybody is absolutely certain that this isn't the case and not just guessing, let me know and I'll stand corrected.
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but, a ROM includes a Kernel, so when you flash a ROM you're swapping kernels.
The only kernel incompatibility would be if you flashed a ROM then flashed a Kernel, then you have to be careful.
If anybody is absolutely certain that this isn't the case and not just guessing, let me know and I'll stand corrected.
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That's true for 1.12, since it allows you to flash kernels through recovery. The newer versions don't. That's the reason for using the fastboot or dumlock workarounds. That being said, I haven't heard anyone confirm yet that these methods still work on 1.19...I'm interested to know.
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I've been waiting for s-off forever, then it finally came but long story short gf saw update (hboot 1.15) and accepted and I'm wondering since there's still no s-off, and this is a very silly question but I've never used Dev unlock, is nandroid backup possible in case something does go wrong
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I've been waiting for s-off forever, then it finally came but long story short gf saw update (hboot 1.15) and accepted and I'm wondering since there's still no s-off, and this is a very silly question but I've never used Dev unlock, is nandroid backup possible in case something does go wrong
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From what I can tell... No. You have to run HTC Dev first in order to get to where you can load a recovery program at which point you will have already had to wipe your phone to factory defaults.
It's unfortunate and the main reason I waited so long to unlock this way but as previously stated, Sense 4.1 was too hard to pass on
om4 said:
I've been waiting for s-off forever, then it finally came but long story short gf saw update (hboot 1.15) and accepted and I'm wondering since there's still no s-off, and this is a very silly question but I've never used Dev unlock, is nandroid backup possible in case something does go wrong
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I am amazed at how many girlfriends have their boyfriend's phone and update things... I'm beginning to think it's the same cover up as when people say, "so I have this friend who... Blah blah blah..."
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PsiPhiDan said:
I am amazed at how many girlfriends have their boyfriend's phone and update things... I'm beginning to think it's the same cover up as when people say, "so I have this friend who... Blah blah blah..."
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no, I let her take my phone for the weekend. she went camping with her her family and I dont feel comfortable knowing shes out in the middle of no where without a phone. her phone was disconnected because she lost her job 2 months ago and Im not about to pay $135 on top of my own bill
PsiPhiDan said:
I am amazed at how many girlfriends have their boyfriend's phone and update things... I'm beginning to think it's the same cover up as when people say, "so I have this friend who... Blah blah blah..."
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Hell, I don't even let my girlfriend use my phone unless she asks nicely and I always keep an eye on her.
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Hell, I don't even let my girlfriend use my phone unless she asks nicely and I always keep an eye on her.
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Mine doesn't even know how to use my phone...it's "confusing". IPhone ftw
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pbarrett said:
Correct me if I'm wrong, but, a ROM includes a Kernel, so when you flash a ROM you're swapping kernels.
The only kernel incompatibility would be if you flashed a ROM then flashed a Kernel, then you have to be careful.
If anybody is absolutely certain that this isn't the case and not just guessing, let me know and I'll stand corrected.
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Yes, every ROM includes a kernel.
But Hboot 1.15 and above do not let you flash things to the boot partition in recovery. The kernel goes in the boot partition. So you can't flash kernels normally through recovery.
If your on a sense ROM and flash an AOSP rom, the phone wont boot
If your on an AOSP ROM and flash a sense ROM, the phone wont boot
If your on an old base and flash a new base, the ROM will have issues (if it even boots)
http://androidforums.com/evo-4g-lte-all-things-root/606748-how-install-kernels-h-boot-1-15-wip.html
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I am amazed at how many girlfriends have their boyfriend's phone and update things... I'm beginning to think it's the same cover up as when people say, "so I have this friend who... Blah blah blah..."
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Next, we are going to hear crap like, "my pet hamster ate my nandroid thumb drive."
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Alright I'm having a few problems where no matter what Rom or kernel I install, I'm constantly getting lag and stutters. It's very annoying cause its every Rom I've flashed. Rite now I'm on cleanrom pro latest version. I've tried the one in ky Sig, cm9, slim Rom, vigor360, Nile business 3.6 and 4, rezrom, etc. I've tried a lot and all preform the same. They all lag. How can I fix this? Maybe update ruu or something? I have the latest recovery and hboot. This is getting extremely annoying now because its every Rom. I'm planning clean Rom and funky kernel as my daily driver. I have force gpu rendering enabled. Pls help. Getting extremely annoying. Ppl with the same setup don't have this problem. And yes I wipe EVERYTHING when I flash New roms and cache boot and delvik when I flash kernels.
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Alright I'm having a few problems where no matter what Rom or kernel I install, I'm constantly getting lag and stutters. It's very annoying cause its every Rom I've flashed. Rite now I'm on cleanrom pro latest version. I've tried the one in ky Sig, cm9, slim Rom, vigor360, Nile business 3.6 and 4, rezrom, etc. I've tried a lot and all preform the same. They all lag. How can I fix this? Maybe update ruu or something? I have the latest recovery and hboot. This is getting extremely annoying now because its every Rom. I'm planning clean Rom and funky kernel as my daily driver. I have force gpu rendering enabled. Pls help. Getting extremely annoying. Ppl with the same setup don't have this problem. And yes I wipe EVERYTHING when I flash New roms and cache boot and delvik when I flash kernels.
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Owch; yeah, go for a RUU.
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Owch; yeah, go for a RUU.
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Alright where can I find the latest ota one and do I flash it just like anyother Rom or kernel?
Yea do RUU it usually fixes alot of issues.
jon7701 said:
Yea do RUU it usually fixes alot of issues.
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Alright where and how do I do that?
Quadrider10 said:
Alright where and how do I do that?
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Well it depends if you want OTA or global, I recommend the global radios since thats what most people are using now. Find the RUU which should be 4.03.605.2 and then place it on your the root of your SD as PH98IMG.zip and then it will flash.
jon7701 said:
Well it depends if you want OTA or global, I recommend the global radios since thats what most people are using now. Find the RUU which should be 4.03.605.2 and then place it on your the root of your SD as PH98IMG.zip and then it will flash.
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Oh alright. Thought it would be like a huge process. Well since clean Rom is ota, guess ill go with that im s-off btw do I wipe anything or just flash?
Well I haven't run an ruu while s-off before but I would backup your internal sd just in case. Oh also it flashes in hboot as well dont try to flash in recovery.
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Well I haven't run an ruu while s-off before but I would backup your internal sd just in case.
Sent from my Rezound fueled by jelly beans.
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Ok. Do I wipe anything tho?
No don't wipe any thing but backup your ROM since it will be wiped. Also make sure to reread my previous post since I edited it.
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No don't wipe any thing but backup your ROM since it will be wiped. Also make sure to reread my previous post since I edited it.
Sent from my Rezound fueled by jelly beans.
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Alright idk how to flash in hboot, but I will figure that out. I can't find the latest version non global that's 4.xxxxxx
Question. Rom says based off of Leaked RUU 3.11.605.22. ROM. So does that meN I should flash that version or still the latest?
This one is the latest regular non global RUU
http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/0...cream-sandwich-ruu-for-final-ota-3-14-605-12/
This one is the newest of the new,global
http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/0...ull-ruu-build-4-03-605-2-for-the-htc-rezound/
mclass55 said:
This one is the latest regular non global RUU
http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/0...cream-sandwich-ruu-for-final-ota-3-14-605-12/
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Thanks man! And that get flashed in hboot or recovery?
Quadrider10 said:
Question. Rom says based off of Leaked RUU 3.11.605.22. ROM. So does that meN I should flash that version or still the latest?
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That one you talking about is outdated
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That one you talking about is outdated
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Alright. And that gets flashed in hboot or recovery?
Quadrider10 said:
Thanks man! And that get flashed in hboot or recovery?
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Hboot and let it run twice on its own
Then I always do a factory reset and then after that you will have to load a custom recovery again so you can run a custom rom
This will not work if you used the HTC Bootloader unlock tool. Your device must be fully stock with a locked bootloader or you must have S-Off (method). Installing the RUU will wipe your data.
I'm s-off unlocked by HTC boot loader, so I can tdo it? If I can, will Ihave to unlock and s-off again?
Yes your s-off and ready to run the RUU
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Yes your s-off and ready to run the RUU
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From hboot correct?
Just want to tripple check. Will I have to do s-off again tho?