The SIIIs SVoice looks like the first app that can compete with Siri in a GUI and asthetic front. Is it likely to be ported over for other roms? I imagine it will depend on how deeply it's integrated into Wiz, or whether or not it's a stand alone app?
For standard ICS Touchwiz Sansung Device, it should be able to do so, but to make it a standalone app like VLingo being ripped from a SGS II or A Note to another device, it may not work, exactly due to the reason you specified on how deeply its integrated.
That amongst a few more features is what I would like to see ported over to the Note or the SGS II.
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Just started reading up on this os. Its open source and able to run android apps. Anyone heard anything else about this?
Heard of it, didn't know it could run android apps. I know samsung has some devices planned for it.
After further research, it seems like samsung is the main horse behind the OS. Sort like google is to android. Looking at samung's history with software, i'm less than excited for tizen. I love their hardware, but i despise touchwiz. Hoping the GS3 touchwiz will be better.
Samsung Galaxy S2 can run it
EDIT: http://www.ubergizmo.com/2012/05/tizen-on-samsung-galaxy-s2-hd/
looks like a a uglier version of android, like a android 1.5 fork. What can tizen offer?
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Hello everyone,
I did a little research before opening new thread,but I couldn't find anything simiral to my question.
So,my question now!I am planning to buy an Android Device.And yes like most of the people I am in a dilemma.Now before you hasten to answer my question let me explain this : I am not looking for an answer according to hardware specs or any kind of benchmarks.What I am looking for is the following :
I really like the stock look of the ICS(yes the one that Galaxy Nexus has).So I was wondering if there is anyway to get rid of the Touchwiz from Galaxy SGSIII.After a small Google research that I did it seems that a user is not able to get rid of Touchwiz unless it replace it with another Launcher like the Launcher Pro.So what I found out that the only way to do this is to flash the phone with a custom rom,which will not contain any OEM launchers or any other third party launchers.To make this clear once and for all I am not lloking any kind of launcher that will make SGS III look like Galaxy Nexus's stock launcher,I am looking only for the stock launcher only.
So I was wondering if there is any custom rom to get rid of touchwiz and leave all the other goodies that Samsung has included like the Smart-Stay(the one that tracks your eyes in order to keep the screen on),All share,etc,... in SGS III or the only way is to buy the Nexus?
If you buy the SIII you can simply install Nova Launcher or Apex Launcher (Both available in the Play Store).
Both those launchers look exactly like the one found on the Galaxy Nexus, just with more options for customization.
Installing the launcher will hide the Touchwiz Launcher, but leave other parts of Touchwiz/Samsung software intact (Such as the smart-stay feature, S Voice, etc.).
Okay I have two questions.First,is it possible with these two launchers to have the three buttons(back button,home button and the multitask button) like the Nexus has?(Yes I know that the SGS III has the same three dedicated buttons,but I really love those three Nexus buttons)Second,are this launchers consume too much Ram or they will work without lags like touchwiz?
Okay,I know that I am not allowed to do this,but I am posting this to give to my thread a little push.Yes I know I am not the only memebr in this forum and there are 4 milllion other members.
use the search button maybe some devs at the s3 forum made one already
dude people did compare these two phones many times already.
and... unless you are a higher ranked, people most likely avoid you.
the s3 is sexy, big and yes i had hands on. Gnex is also sexy and yes i had hands on. The s3 is a little more advance so it gets a plus, but the galaxy nexus would be my choice because i look in the long run. Gnex gets updates first and its google's flagship phone as iphone is to apple.
Gnexs are coming next week preloaded with jelly bean while some people dont have ics yet. If you are like some people who can afford to buy a new phone every month then get the s3, but if you plan to go the two years get gnex
So the S2 is out of the question? The S2 probably has more custom rom than both put together (or it would at lease be close )
Hi guys,
can you help me understanding the main pros/cons for going with Samsung JB or an AOSP rom on the Galaxy S3?
I've tried searching the forum but without luck, anyone got a thread link where this is covered?
My first Samsung (S3) phone is on its way by mail, and I'm trying to decide which type of rom to choose.
Off course I see the obvious stuff like:
Open vs Closed source
Stock vs Custom UI
But, except for the above; why should I choose an optimized (de-odexed, de-bloated etc. etc.) Samsung JB rom over an AOSP rom?
From what I can understand custom kernels also exists for both rom types, so that wouldn't be an argument right?
I'm not familiar with the current HW support in AOSP rom's for the S3. Generally this has been where roms for my HTC phones have differed in the past. What's the status with the S3, do AOSP support most of the stuff or is there still some way to go?
Please shed some light for me :fingers-crossed:
And please don't compare specific rom's against each others. I'm trying to understand this at higher level, I will off course test several rom's and make up my own mind about what specific rom release is best suited for me.
Samsung roms will have all the things mentioned in the ads such as direct call, smart stay, multi window etc. Aosp won't have these as they are samsungs additions. Samsung will have touchwiz launcher as default, which comes with a lot of samsung only widgets. Aosp will have vanilla launcher (with some extra functions and tweaks).
Sammy roms generally have better camera than aosp. Aosp is considered to have better battery usage although I can't really tell from my experience of using both types.
Deodexed means it's easier to develop themes for, as the external odex files are repackaged into the apks directly. But it will take a while longer when booting, as odex files are meant to speed up this process. As for the actual usage, not much difference.
Debloated means getting rid of bloatware that come with your phone, sich as chaton, google talk etc. There will be quite a lot of apps that you don't use but will be present and wasting your phone resources. Debloating is done by some developers but you can do most of ot yourself as long as you're rooted.
Hope this clears things. But these are all general, as you wished it to be. Some aosp will have different launcher options etc, so will sammy roms. As for what you go with, I'll leave it up to you.
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Thanks a lot xcly, this clears up some stuff for me
You say that Sammy roms have better camera, what about the rest of the HW support on AOSP? The rest of the stuff (GPS, Accel, Gyro etc.) works ok?
From what I can gather from your post (and reading around) the choice boils down to two main points for me
HW support
Kernel (stability and performance, ofwhich battery performance is derived)
I don't care much for the 'Samsung features' (direct call, smart stay, multi window etc.) and the launcher can always be customized.
Additionally my previous experience is that the continious devlopment done on AOSP (with nightlies etc.) gives a nice feeling of continous improvement that you miss from manufacturer roms. For manufacturer roms you're relying on manufacturer relase schedules and leaks. But off course, one can argue that there is continous development through hacking, back-porting and kernel improvements for these roms as well..
Ultimately I think Ill just have to try out the most popular roms of both types before I'm able to decide what type I go with as a daily driver.
As for kernels most of then support both aosp and sammy so don't worry about it too much. Gps wifi and the lot work well on both as well.
Samsung didn't release any source code for its processor so aosp roms can never realise the full potential. Never had any trouble using aosp so I wouldn't say there is a huge difference, but I guess some advanced users will miss the hw side of things..
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Simple to say
TouchWiz UI and pure Android UI.
Other things basically are very similar
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Haha nice. All my words in a single sentence
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Here is some personal feeling about them.
As you can see from my signature that I had Nexus S and Galaxy Nexus before, and after I lost my GNex, I tried to buy a Nexus 4, but it kinda like mission impossible as it's serious outta supply, so I was forced to make compromise and go with Galaxy S III, which is very nice phone through some thing I don't like such as hardware button and soft key (because GNex uses virtual button on screen which is completely customizable ).
I have been using AOSP ROM for over a year (well, it's outta options actually as they are Google's sons but Samsung didn't make a ROM for them even they are manufactured by Samsung , and 3 month with Sammy ROM.
Even I got my S3, the first thing I have done is flash AOSP ROM and get my feeling about GNex back, but unfortunately due to some reasons, I couldn't make it become GNex-like and realize it is something fool, so I tried Sammy stock ROM.
My first feeling about it is a little prettier than AOSP ( through there's countless themes for AOSP, I am just talking about default theme ) and some Sammy features are very interesting and attractive. (IMHO, I'd say it is more user-friendly to users ) which is why I decided to stay with it , but after all these times, I didn't actually use these features much except multi windows and slide to dial...
OK, sorry for my non sense words and my bad English just can exactly express what I trying to say...
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FoxHound rom is all you need.
crDroid is the most stable Sammy Tom out there with the option of having an AOSP theme & not installing all the bloatware that Samsung Roms are notorious for.
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don't turn this thread into a best rom one
A quick follow up question
Just a quick follow up question regarding HW support:
Whats the status for AOSP roms regarding MHL, does it work?
I recently saw a video where a guy paired his phone with a PS3 controller and played games on his HD TV. Would this possible on non-Sammy roms?
Can't help you much on that. Never tried mhl on my s3, aosp or otherwise. You're better off asking/searching in cm thread. If it works on cm, it'd probably work on other aosp roms too.
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Pedro80 said:
Just a quick follow up question regarding HW support:
Whats the status for AOSP roms regarding MHL, does it work?
I recently saw a video where a guy paired his phone with a PS3 controller and played games on his HD TV. Would this possible on non-Sammy roms?
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You need to read the relevant rom threads or logically ask in those threads .
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This is just a thought I had. I currently have the S5 with the new Touchwiz UI. I was just wondering. Samsung has released KitKat on older devices like the S4, Note 2 and Note 3. Why do they keep the older UI on those devices? I feel like the S5 UI, as far as notification toggles, settings menu and textures, should be available to users of the older devices. One thing I have to give Apple credit for is that when a new OS, like iOS7 releases, they update the UI on all devices even 3 year old ones like the iPhone 4.
I know this is not a big deal, as our Galaxy devices do a lot more even with an older UI, I just feel like it would unify the Galaxy ecosystem more. Anyone using a phone that is less than a year old but with the latest software update should enjoy the same new UI as newer devices. I also look at HTC as an example. They are updating the One and older HTC devices from 2013 to the Sense 6 UI. Samsung really should start doing this.
Thoughts or further discussion would be great.
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This is just a thought I had. I currently have the S5 with the new Touchwiz UI. I was just wondering. Samsung has released KitKat on older devices like the S4, Note 2 and Note 3. Why do they keep the older UI on those devices? I feel like the S5 UI, as far as notification toggles, settings menu and textures, should be available to users of the older devices. One thing I have to give Apple credit for is that when a new OS, like iOS7 releases, they update the UI on all devices even 3 year old ones like the iPhone 4.
I know this is not a big deal, as our Galaxy devices do a lot more even with an older UI, I just feel like it would unify the Galaxy ecosystem more. Anyone using a phone that is less than a year old but with the latest software update should enjoy the same new UI as newer devices. I also look at HTC as an example. They are updating the One and older HTC devices from 2013 to the Sense 6 UI. Samsung really should start doing this.
Thoughts or further discussion would be great.
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Pssh. The TouchWiz user interface is laggy enough. Trying to use the one on the S5 on one of the older devices would probably make it even worse. Plus it's just another marketing ploy to try and get you to buy the newer ones. I can't stand the TW UI either way, new or old. I think it's bloated and hideous. I buy their phones for the hardware, not the software, but I'm pretty sure I'm done with them with all the recent security crap they keep throwing on there. Not allowing you to downgrade officially, Knox, locked bootloaders, etc. They still make great phones, just not for what I need.
There is ways to mod it on the older devices. I current use a note 3 with S5 UI on it. I like the new look.
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There is ways to mod it on the older devices. I current use a note 3 with S5 UI on it. I like the new look.
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oh you do? What does it look like? Can you show me a screenshot? Just curious..
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Pssh. The TouchWiz user interface is laggy enough. Trying to use the one on the S5 on one of the older devices would probably make it even worse. Plus it's just another marketing ploy to try and get you to buy the newer ones. I can't stand the TW UI either way, new or old. I think it's bloated and hideous. I buy their phones for the hardware, not the software, but I'm pretty sure I'm done with them with all the recent security crap they keep throwing on there. Not allowing you to downgrade officially, Knox, locked bootloaders, etc. They still make great phones, just not for what I need.
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IDK about that. and also older phones like the S4 and Note 3 can handle the S5 UI, the hardware would support it. I actually find the S5 UI to lag a lot less than the S4, as they have cut out a lot of the crap.
So I got this Galaxy S7 clone a month ago, and I thought whoever made this counterfeit probably forgot to replicate some of the stuff in it like the browser and keyboard, being those two were lifted off an earlier Android version. I was wondering if there are apps taken off similar clones that resemble the real deal, or if there are other applications which can be themed to look like their Touchwiz equivalents.
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