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Using the app "Battery Monitor Widget" I have determined the following....
My Droid X sleeps at -5 mA while sleeping.
My T-Bolt sleeps at -48 mA or more (usually much more) while sleeping.
Both phones run Gingerbread.
Both phones have the same apps, running.
Why does the T-Bolt draw so much more mA's?
I've turned off the 4G radio and it didn't help.
Any other ideas?
Thanks.
Your T-Bolt is not alone, mine runs in the -40's too. Recently into the high -30's with some undervolting. What rom and kernel are you using? I am on CM7.
GingerBamf Remix with Imoseyon 2.5.3test7 running Extreme and Interactive.
i have very bad standbye life on mine running BAMF froyo versions too. I really want to know what is causing the horrible drain. Nothing really shows up as keeping the phone awake or anything.
I noticed this the other night. I went to sleep around 3:30am (...after tending to crying daughter) at about 50% battery and woke up at 7am to a dead TB. Plugged TB and checked System Panel app and saw my battery drain in about 2 hours with no device usage at that time span but 10% cpu activity while in sleep mode. I have been keeping WiFi on at the house lately which has helped on battery life when connected but have also noticed my TB having a hard time connecting to Wifi when I get back home or waking out of sleep mode. Does Wifi connection cycle in sleep mode if it is having a hard time connecting? Also had two reboots for no reason the last few days as well. I love this TB but these little annoyances are.....well annoying!
Every time I root, I end up going back to stock. To me, it seems to runs smoother and with better battery life than any Rom and kernel mix I've tried.
My phone lasts me all day with some texting, web surfing, playing music, a few calls, some tethering, and some YouTube. When I plug my phone in at night I'm usually down to 40% give or take.
I also use green power to manage my data and WiFi. It works great.
Over night I might loose 1% but thats it.
Just my opinion.
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Hey guys what's a good app that you use to track that information for your battery discharge rate?
Nvm lol just reread your post. Thanks.
SETCPU
Im assuming your rooted if so install SETCPU and in Profiles you can turn the voltage all the way down on the "Screen Off" option but make sure you check the ENABLE box and after you wake the phone up if it seems to be a little choppy just go back to SETCPU and check the ENABLE box again which will disable it, works for me
I am running stock Rom with basic tweaks (display, background data) and just uninstalled the task manager I was using and improved my battery life by 30%. I now go almost all day with moderate use with out having to recharge.
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jett2314 said:
I am running stock Rom with basic tweaks (display, background data) and just uninstalled the task manager I was using and improved my battery life by 30%. I now go almost all day with moderate use with out having to recharge.
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Oh yeah. Task managers are bad news bears for Android phones.
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Let me just clarify that my battery life is fine. I only lose a few % overnight. I was just confirming to the op that -40's is normal.
I know battery has been diacussed before but i think this isnt normal. I left the office with almost full charge, listened to music on the.way with bluetoith headset for an hour. Got home and browsed for like half an hour. And here is my battery.
3 hours and the phone is almost dead. I have no apps running. I had 3g on when i left the officw and at home i used wifi.
Is this normal or should i take the.phone back for an exchange?
Regardless, i still love the phone.
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RETURN ZE PHONE
get a new shiny in exchange
btw when u return the phone what do u say exactly
Thats ridiculous man. Maybe you're battery is broken.
That said mine has just drained 35% in 3 hours with almost no usage so maybe it is just the phone.
I think there is 100% guaranteed a software problem and we need samsung to fix it.
It says you've had the display on for quite a long time, music needs the display on? Also that wifi sharing is another culprit.
It drained because you had the screen on nearly the entire time not because anything else
Unless thats a case of the 'phone staying awake' bug. You can freeze wifi sharing with titanium backup to save some juice
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I too am facing the same issue battery drain from 100% to 60% in a span of 3 hours.
I am having a mediocre usage of battery with touchdown as my mail client talking to my corporate exchange. Still it doesn't warrant a drain of 40% in 3 hours.
I dont have much apps installed. Even with juice defender I am not getting better results.
Niket
ale922 said:
Is this normal or should i take the.phone back for an exchange?
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You could say it's normal because if you haven't yet rooted and frozen the wifi sharing process this is the exact behavior everybody else is also having. A new phone will behave in exactly the same way if it's using the current firmware.
You can do two things.
1. root and freeze the process with titanium backup or similar.
2. wait for the next official samsung firmware which may include a fix.
The rooting process takes about 15 minutes and is not too difficult. You may or may not get in to warranty trouble in case of repair, but as I and several of my friends saw it, there really is no other way unless you want a phone with 3-4 hours of battery compared to the 19-23 hours we all get now after the freeze.
Another thing, it won't matter if wifi is turned on or off, the bug and wifi sharing process will still be there.
You will probably read around the net that several processes has to be frozen, but it really only is the "wifi sharing" one that needs to be frozen for the battery drain issue to go away.
What is the "wifi-sharing"?
Mine GS2 is a bit different from the OP's. Android OS occupied 45% while Display only 19%. And charging time is unusually long. Very long. I plugged my GS2 into PC at 9am with 30% left, and by the time I left work 6pm it only got up to 75% something. That's half a day charge.
The rooting process takes about 15 minutes and is not too difficult. You may or may not get in to warranty trouble in case of repair, but as I and several of my friends saw it, there really is no other way unless you want a phone with 3-4 hours of battery compared to the 19-23 hours we all get now after the freeze.
Sorry, whats the freeze. I haven't heard this before ?
Thanks
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What is the "wifi-sharing"?
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I don't really know. But I haven't found a feature not working after the freeze. Even dlna sharing, hotspot etc.. Everything seems to be fine.
You can read more about the issue here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1069295
Regarding the unusual long charge time, I haven't heard about that before. It takes my phone about 3 hours to fully charge.
I can recommend this application for monitoring if the phone really sleeps when left on the table and which processes uses your juice in general. It's history based and you will be able to figure out a lot of useful stuff with it.
http://www.appbrain.com/app/systempanellite-task-manager/nextapp.systempanel
I'm also have a similar problem, but mine was after one hour and an half of web surfing using dolphin HD and wifi... it was full, it's now about 25% remaining... Is it normal that the dolphin browser used 39% of the battery ? It's even more than the display... !
Ps: it's actually really hot on the back of the phone, on the top, just under camera... Normal ? ? ?
steve16 said:
whats the freeze. I haven't heard this before ?
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Well. When you have rooted your phone, you are able to do a lot of usefull stuff:
-Freeze processes
-Disable the camera shutter sound with a simple property/text file
-Make the middle home screen the real home (like htc sense) with a simple property/text file,
-Replace camera.apk and get higher quality sound in video, actually also higher video bitrate if you want that.
-Replace talk.apk and enable the upcoming google talk with video chat
-Install chainfire3d driver to be able to play tegra2 gpu based games
...and probably a lot more, but above is the only things I've done.
Freezing means : that you lock a process you don't want to run ever. You are also able to "un-freeze" if you decide to revert.
So:
1. you root your phone
2. you install titanium backup or other application that has the "freezing" ability.
3. open the freezing app, go to the process list, find "wifi sharing", press freeze, reboot
Problem solved, "wifi-sharing" will never run again.
You want to revert: Launch titanium, go to process list, find wifi sharing, unfreeze, reboot. Everything back to where you were before.
Yarymo said:
I'm also have a similar problem, but mine was after one hour and an half of web surfing using dolphin HD and wifi... it was full, it's now about 25% remaining... Is it normal that the dolphin browser used 39% of the battery ? It's even more than the display... !
Ps: it's actually really hot on the back of the phone, on the top, just under camera... Normal ? ? ?
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I really don't think anything matters as I can see you have the wifi-sharing bug.
You must understand, that it's everybody with the current firmware that has this bug. You must either wait or root and freeze.
Sucking up your battery in a couple of hours and making the cpu run at full speed which makes the phone get hot is exactly what this wifi-sharing bug does.
There is absolutely no way you can change anything in the settings or say, not run dolphin browser to fix this problem. You simply have to freeze the process or wait for samsung to fix it. As long as the wifi-sharing process enters your battery usage list you have the firmware that has the problem (and it's more than one) and your doomed until you freeze or upgrade to a future firmware where the bug may be officially fixed.
Just another "wifi-sharing" discussion link:
https://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=16721
Alright then, it's just that it doesn't seem me to be that much of the battery (~20%...)
I did just freeze that process and will see once my phone is fully charged... Thanks.
Try the lite'ning rom. It is much better!
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isnt this pretty normal looking battery drain? most people on this forum are getting about 4 hours screen-on time, sometimes 4.5 hours. yours seems to have the screen on about 4 hours from your graph picture. isnt this normal? if it was all gaming usage it definitely would be normal...
@OP, You mind to mention the Screen On time please?
Regards.
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sia1996 said:
Try the lite'ning rom. It is much better!
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oh, was that a constructive comment?
Hi all, I'm new to this part of the xda forums as I had a nexus before, just got the upgrade to the Atrix, rooting,unlocking of bootloader everything went well but I just flashed Aura's from with feux kernel and im getting really really bad battery life, like I'm talking 4-5 hours. There is one process thats really confusing me, its just called "x" and its sitting there taking about 35% battery, my screen is taking 55% battery.
It's getting really annoying as my nexus used to give me about 12 hours and the only reason I moved to the atrix was to get the better battery life that I saw with all my atrix touting friends (they all had 1-2 days battery life) I'm about to flash homebase and see if that fixes it but I don't know whats going on. I have a UK MB860 and I used http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1196747&highlight=t-mobile+root to root. Pleaseee can someone help!
X is the webtop and there is a fix somewhere for that (doesn't completely work). Just flash CM7 beta. Its much better than any other ROM and has the best battery life. Everything except the finger print scanner and webtop work.
Also I had really good battery on the Ying Yang ROM.
Speedily sent from CM7 Beta
I think I might give CM7 a go you know, I loved CM on the nexus, even after it killed the memory chips it was still good! Im going to try it, is it really stable?
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since updating to CM7 and Wiping my battery stats I have some how gained 39% battery!
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I think I might give CM7 a go you know, I loved CM on the nexus, even after it killed the memory chips it was still good! Im going to try it, is it really stable?
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since updating to CM7 and Wiping my battery stats I have some how gained 39% battery!
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I haven't had any issues with it. And the gain is very odd.
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Try alien, i had some battery issues with some other roms and kernels and tried alien and all is good.This phone comes with an 1930Mah battery one of the largest i've ever seen and it lasts me 12 hrs on heavy use.
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I've had great battery life on the atrix, now I'm getting a good look at the atrix on the 4800mah battery. I'm a heavy user and I could not get over 24 hours. And now I have 59 hours and I have yet to actually see how far I can take it. Cm7 beta. Juicey....
I find that all gingerbread roms have horrible battery life compared to froyo on the atrix. Cm7 battery is worse but the phone is smoother. Faux 1.3ghz kernel has even worse battery.
Regardless of the radio or magical method of resetting the battery state you use.
1:25 screen time and at 47% battery. Been off the charger for 6:15. It will make it through my 10hr shift with about 20% remaining if I'm lucky, usually I just toss it on the charger.
Background data is off, email and social apps are manual sync and wifi is off.
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one weird thing I am seeing is the display which is at 0% brightness is using 91% battery
Also the better battery stats app says my actual battery is 91% but the phone is reporting 66% I wiped thenbattery stats but nothing!
please help!
If you haven't taken a look at it, give this a shot:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1198333
Starting to mess around with your phone opens up a world of things that can go wrong. Learn to calm down, search the forums, and try a variety of fixes before giving up on something.
...and use nandroid.
ian426 said:
If you haven't taken a look at it, give this a shot:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1198333
Starting to mess around with your phone opens up a world of things that can go wrong. Learn to calm down, search the forums, and try a variety of fixes before giving up on something.
...and use nandroid.
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I was just about to post that lol. Also make sure every time you flash a new rom you are at 100% if not that is a sure fire way to cheat yourself out of battery life. I don't know if I'm just one of "the lucky ones" but I easily get over 16+ hours with moderate usage. I'm running CM7 beta with quite a few things frozen.
Ok so I followed the guide to perfection and it didn't improve the battery life one bit! I'm trying hard to find a t-mobile radio I can flash as I have read around it could be my radio that is the culprit and I am also getting rubbish HSDPA readings, I should be getting full bars but since switching to homebase Im only getting one bar.
Using watchdog I have noticed that the Xorg process is using over 50% cpu which does not seem right to be and I believe that because its a linux process Watchdog can't kill it. Is there anyway of fixing this?
1) Uninstall Tango, Facebook and Handcent SMS if any of the three are installed. They are huge battery drainers and you can find less battery hogging substitutes
2) Freeze any unnecessary apps, I believe there is a thread somewhere in the General section that has a pretty decent freeze list (if you flash CM7, you will have very little to freeze but that's good!)
3) Keep brightness down to a minimum when you can, I've noticed kicking the brightness up rather high can be pretty demanding on your battery
4) Set SetCPU Profiles to something like this...
Screen Off 216/216
Charging 1100/216
In Call 456/216
Battery <20% 456/216
Battery <10% 216/216
5) If you have the proper kernel set the CPU govner to power saver.
6) Undervolt, test yours and never apply set on boot unless you are positive it's stable, mine are something like this...
1100 MHz -50mV
1000 MHz -50mV
912 MHz -50mV
750 MHz -50mV
608 MHz -100mV
456 MHz -150mV
216 MHz -200mV
This way when you're phone is idling with the screen off, in a call or low on battery it is undervolting heavily to save maximum amounts of battery
With this setup I can get 30+ hours pretty regularly with moderate-to-heavy usage (weekdays/non-work days), 22-25 hours with more heavy usage (work days) and close to 48 hours with little usage (weekends).
It all depends on your usage and your phone but I have found this setup here to work fairly well.
I am currently on CM7 Beta, stock CM7 radio and stock CM7 kernel, running at 1100/216 when above profile conditions aren't met. 32% been running since 9 am this morning, it is now 3:15 am, today was a long workday.
I can almost guarantee (almost) that its your rom/kernel combination. Had same problem til I changed.
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fastboot erase osh
That will nuke your webtop & fix your problem.
I'm now using faux kernel for CM7 and that hasn't improved anything, in fact I think it it has made it worse. It's getting really irretating because using the watch dog app it always says there is one linux process on every rom I use that is clocking at over 50% cpu usage and It won't let me kill it (probably because it's a linux process), its really annoying me because all I want is my phone to work properly but to enjoy the full rooting experience. I know countless amounts of people with atrix's and they get a full day and a bit out of their phone with heavy usage i can't even manage 10 hours!
amzter said:
I'm now using faux kernel for CM7 and that hasn't improved anything, in fact I think it it has made it worse. It's getting really irretating because using the watch dog app it always says there is one linux process on every rom I use that is clocking at over 50% cpu usage and It won't let me kill it (probably because it's a linux process), its really annoying me because all I want is my phone to work properly but to enjoy the full rooting experience. I know countless amounts of people with atrix's and they get a full day and a bit out of their phone with heavy usage i can't even manage 10 hours!
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Watchdog eats battery like a mthrfckr, get away from that. Install BetterBatterStats instead & look for wakelocks. Which linux process are you noticing with that high cpu usage?
How many hours of screen time do you get in those 10 hrs?
Have you tried with a fastboot wipe & internal storage format prior to installing a new rom? Are you using the latest recommended radio for your phone?
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Turn background syncing off if you are using that, and get in the habit of doing manual updates.
Too many times (with ANY Android device) people leave background syncing on and it tries sending/receiving data in a weak signal spot when you don't realize it. That's like a hot knife through butter on a battery.
Leave syncing off permanently if possible! That's a huge improvement right there for anyone...
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Turn background syncing off if you are using that, and get in the habit of doing manual updates.
Too many times (with ANY Android device) people leave background syncing on and it tries sending/receiving data in a weak signal spot when you don't realize it. That's like a hot knife through butter on a battery.
Leave syncing off permanently if possible! That's a huge improvement right there for anyone...
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That's a bit radical, no?
I'd say use Green Power so the phone can update every half hour or hour. It's a smartphone at the end of the day..
I have been messing around with system tuner app for a while now and I really like the program.
I would like to hear from people who have used this app and their results with various tweaks that this app provides.
in the boot settings menu:
1. forcing both CPU's online: this should technically give you a better battery life, since it puts less strain on on cpu at a time, has anyone had a good exprience using this?
2. Boost app loading: anyone had any significant improvement with this?
My own settings:
I usually clock my phone at 1.5 (on demand governor) even though faux's kernel allows 1.7 max. I put max clock for screen off at 384 and conservative governor.
I have Undervolted before but do not see a very significant battery difference so I just left it alone.
I tried out the autokill option of system tuner, I only tried to kill the ghost apps, to refrain from the cpu from having to keep restarting the phone, but this also seems to kill battery life...In my experience any type of task killer however detailed will reduce battery and does not increase performance, unless you're running a poorly written app that just needs to be killed.
I use three other programs to monitor my phone
1. system pannel: very good at finding rogue apps that kill cpu...I highly recommend the pro version, you can get a history of what has used cpu up to a week.
2. Onavo and My data manger which basically monitor my wifi and mobile traffic, Onavo only monitors mobile network traffic and lets you restrict apps to only wifi. however it does not measure wifi use of data. My data manager monitor both wifi and network usage but does not give you any options to do anything with the apps, it basically tells you what program is using data while on wifi and mobile.
If anyone has found a good balance between performance and battery saving, please do share.
Thank you.
I read some other guy also mentioned the all cpus on thing. im not sure but isnt it the same as making both processors work at the same time which leads to phone overheating? I will give it a try though. from what you noticed, do you like it more with both cpu on or is better the way it was?
Felinos11 said:
I read some other guy also mentioned the all cpus on thing. im not sure but isnt it the same as making both processors work at the same time which leads to phone overheating? I will give it a try though. from what you noticed, do you like it more with both cpu on or is better the way it was?
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technically this is how it's supposed to work pic attatched, but I don't know if our roms or even the dual core rom that's out works in this manner, if it did we would be seeing significant battery savings
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technically this is how it's supposed to work pic attatched, but I don't know if our roms or even the dual core rom that's out works in this manner, if it did we would be seeing significant battery savings
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will see then. hey seansk do you notice some kind of hesitation when trying to unlock the phone? when u press the unlock button at the top. I think that boost app loading thing causes this cuz when have it enabled the unlock button you have to press it twice to work, while when disabling that boost app loading thing all works fine...
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will see then. hey seansk do you notice some kind of hesitation when trying to unlock the phone? when u press the unlock button at the top. I think that boost app loading thing causes this cuz when have it enabled the unlock button you have to press it twice to work, while when disabling that boost app loading thing all works fine...
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I have widget locker and havn't had that problem...I just flashed faux's latest kernel and am in the process of re calibrating my battery, it seemed to jump from 100 to 90 in about 10 minutes!!!!!! now I noticed that happening...but I havn't had time to fully replicate it...i need more time..I believe it might have something to do with fauxes kernel, he mentioned that when screen goes off he it puts the phone into a low power consumption mode, but also has something that when you turn it on, is quick to turn on!!! we'll have to wait and see.
If you've been following this thread, just wanted make a quick update...I want to give you my results with system tuner tweaking. Forcing both cores online is a bad idea. It will literally kill your battery in a matter of a couple of hours. ICS will hopefully be different and utilize the cores how they should be, saving some battery and giving the amaze longer battery life!
On the other hand reducing reducing clock frequency on screen off will help in battery life (obviously).
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If you've been following this thread, just wanted make a quick update...I want to give you my results with system tuner tweaking. Forcing both cores online is a bad idea. It will literally kill your battery in a matter of a couple of hours. ICS will hopefully be different and utilize the cores how they should be, saving some battery and giving the amaze longer battery life!
On the other hand reducing reducing clock frequency on screen off will help in battery life (obviously).
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I was noticing the same. It eats more battery. Have u tried reducing the frequency when screen off and by how much? U still r stock rom?
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I was noticing the same. It eats more battery. Have u tried reducing the frequency when screen off and by how much? U still r stock rom?
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yes still stock rooted, I put the governor on conservative and put the frequency to 384 or around there, while screen is off.
What helps most I found out is turning off all the radios like wifi and network data, (basically putting phone on airplane mode). Instead of dropping down 15 percent in 6 hours it drops like 3 when I turn airplane on. But like I've said before it's unrealistic I'm always recieving google talk, google voice, facebook updates and I have to have both of these on which unfortunately eats a lot of battery.
I keep switching back and forth between faux's kernel and stock and I'm actually finding stock gives me better battery life for some reason. Even though I set the clock speeds on both at 1.5 ghz.
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yes still stock rooted, I put the governor on conservative and put the frequency to 384 or around there, while screen is off.
What helps most I found out is turning off all the radios like wifi and network data, (basically putting phone on airplane mode). Instead of dropping down 15 percent in 6 hours it drops like 3 when I turn airplane on. But like I've said before it's unrealistic I'm always recieving google talk, google voice, facebook updates and I have to have both of these on which unfortunately eats a lot of battery.
I keep switching back and forth between faux's kernel and stock and I'm actually finding stock gives me better battery life for some reason. Even though I set the clock speeds on both at 1.5 ghz.
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is the stock rom any better? Im thinking to switch to stock now X left..
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is the stock rom any better? Im thinking to switch to stock now X left..
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never used bulletproof for more than a day or beastmod for more than a day. I hear beastmod gives much better battery life. I'm sticking to stock for now until ICS comes out.
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never used bulletproof for more than a day or beastmod for more than a day. I hear beastmod gives much better battery life. I'm sticking to stock for now until ICS comes out.
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They have maybe a bit better battery life. I went back to stock.
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Battery Life
Major battery drain is the screen, when on eats up all the juice, dimming helps a bit
charge source: usb vs AC charge
usb charging takes quite a while, AC charge quicker (~ an hour)
Also, from my observation, usb charged battery runs out quicker than AC charge
Data Connection, Juice defender helps a lot
turn off sync you don't need, like HTC sense
if something is eating up your battery, use this http://market.android.com/details?i...ePad&utm_medium=app&utm_campaign=contextpanel. The thread is located http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1179809
heyodee said:
Battery Life
Major battery drain is the screen, when on eats up all the juice, dimming helps a bit
charge source: usb vs AC charge
usb charging takes quite a while, AC charge quicker (~ an hour)
Also, from my observation, usb charged battery runs out quicker than AC charge
Juice defender helps a lot
turn off sync you don't need, like HTC sense
if something is eating up your battery, use this http://market.android.com/details?i...ePad&utm_medium=app&utm_campaign=contextpanel. The thread is located http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1179809
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well the problem is its not my screen. It's when the phone is idle, I usually lose about 15 to 20 percent over night. if I turn off the radios it drops down to about 3 to 4 percent overnight....like I said before I can't turn off the radios...I constantly use google voice, google talk, facebook. And they require both a cell connection and a data connection. I hate to pay for more apps...I've already paid for a bunch of apps to control and see my phone's usage of cpu and battery...is the app really worth it? wish they had a lite version
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well the problem is its not my screen. It's when the phone is idle, I usually lose about 15 to 20 percent over night. if I turn off the radios it drops down to about 3 to 4 percent overnight....like I said before I can't turn off the radios...I constantly use google voice, google talk, facebook. And they require both a cell connection and a data connection. I hate to pay for more apps...I've already paid for a bunch of apps to control and see my phone's usage of cpu and battery...is the app really worth it? wish they had a lite version
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Juice defender is worth it (Very configurable)
If you want to know what is eating away at your battery when phone is suppose to be sleeping, the battery stat is
heyodee said:
Juice defender is worth it (Very configurable)
If you want to know what is eating away at your battery when phone is suppose to be sleeping, the battery stat is
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I have juicedefender ultimate, used it for a while actually...the only good use of it is turns off radios all other things when screen is off..all other things are negligible to battery life...I currently don't use it anymore. I tried multiple things/tweaks with it for about two weeks,...NO point lol...I want to be able to get my google talk message and my google voice texts, it annoyed the hell out of me when someone had sent something like 2 hours before and I would just get it when I woke my phone!!! I tried all kinds of things...but the only thing that actually worked was turning off radios during screen off which I don't want...I can't win lol....I can't have my cake and eat it too!!
seansk said:
I have juicedefender ultimate, used it for a while actually...the only good use of it is turns off radios all other things when screen is off..all other things are negligible to battery life...I currently don't use it anymore. I tried multiple things/tweaks with it for about two weeks,...NO point lol...I want to be able to get my google talk message and my google voice texts, it annoyed the hell out of me when someone had sent something like 2 hours before and I would just get it when I woke my phone!!! I tried all kinds of things...but the only thing that actually worked was turning off radios during screen off which I don't want...I can't win lol....I can't have my cake and eat it too!!
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while you sleep, you won't be checking for emails will you? but you expect to wake and see emails received.... that is where it comes in handy. with apps like tasker, you can automate some of this activities. tasker + syncer should be a good combo for you.
seansk said:
well the problem is its not my screen. It's when the phone is idle, I usually lose about 15 to 20 percent over night. if I turn off the radios it drops down to about 3 to 4 percent overnight....like I said before I can't turn off the radios...I constantly use google voice, google talk, facebook. And they require both a cell connection and a data connection. I hate to pay for more apps...I've already paid for a bunch of apps to control and see my phone's usage of cpu and battery...is the app really worth it? wish they had a lite version
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For what it is worth I am running BulletProof 2.3.1 and last night I took phone off charger at 10:00 PM, alarm goes off at 3:30 snoozing every 15 min until 4:15...Battery was at 100% still. It is now 7:00 AM and battery is at 96%.
This was after flashing back to BP around 8:00 PM.
I've noticed the same type of activity when in Airplane mode. Extremely low power consumption - fantastic.
Is it possible maybe to undervolt the Wifi/BT/Mobile radios? Would that make any difference or am I off base here?
seansk said:
I have juicedefender ultimate, used it for a while actually...the only good use of it is turns off radios all other things when screen is off..all other things are negligible to battery life...I currently don't use it anymore. I tried multiple things/tweaks with it for about two weeks,...NO point lol...I want to be able to get my google talk message and my google voice texts, it annoyed the hell out of me when someone had sent something like 2 hours before and I would just get it when I woke my phone!!! I tried all kinds of things...but the only thing that actually worked was turning off radios during screen off which I don't want...I can't win lol....I can't have my cake and eat it too!!
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You had something setup wrong then I think.. you can change how often in syncs while the screen is off, the default setting is for it to turn on data for 1 minute every 15 minutes. Most people don't need to know things so bad that they can't work with a 14 minute delay(at worst), and of couse the internet is on while screen is on, when you're actually using it.
I thought I would need to use juice defender, but since I switched to bulletproof, my usage last me an entire day. From 8am till 1am, usually with some to spare. The only tweak I made to cpu was to enable 192mhz, it isn't like there is a performance drop, but it did make a notable difference in battery life.
If I wanted to I could use juice defender to get more than one day out of it, and I keep a spare battery on me in case I really need to use the phone.. but haven't really needed it.
eichenberg said:
For what it is worth I am running BulletProof 2.3.1 and last night I took phone off charger at 10:00 PM, alarm goes off at 3:30 snoozing every 15 min until 4:15...Battery was at 100% still. It is now 7:00 AM and battery is at 96%.
This was after flashing back to BP around 8:00 PM.
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How many apps have you installed?
I haven't got over 2 hours of screen on time in a hella long time. In my stats I'm not getting any strange results, screen is getting 60% and everything else is under 10% which is normal. I was getting very good battery life in gingerbread but ever since ics roms came out I haven't got anything good and its been a while. Why I think it might be my battery is because if its charging it will reach 110 degrees even if I'm leaving it alone. Screen brightness is under half and I've dropped about 5% just typing this out. Under moderate use the phone will seem to heat up more than it should, so I'm just looking for a little input
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I haven't got over 2 hours of screen on time in a hella long time. In my stats I'm not getting any strange results, screen is getting 60% and everything else is under 10% which is normal. I was getting very good battery life in gingerbread but ever since ics roms came out I haven't got anything good and its been a while. Why I think it might be my battery is because if its charging it will reach 110 degrees even if I'm leaving it alone. Screen brightness is under half and I've dropped about 5% just typing this out. Under moderate use the phone will seem to heat up more than it should, so I'm just looking for a little input
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I have seen many post that people talk about heat and battery drain after flashing an ICS ROM... So it might not be your battery, what ROM and kernel are you running does it do it with screen off and in deep sleeping? I have some more battery drain on ICS but never heat issues even watching HD videos wont heat up the phone. It sounds like you have an app spiking your CPU, try tuning on Show CPU usage in menu / system settings / developer options / Show CPU usage at idle with wifi on mine was approx. around 0.08/1.00/1.20 - 0.50/1.50/2.0 I hope some can give you more info how to check CPU info... GL here is a link to DL CPU Spy it might be able to help find the problem....
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.bvalosek.cpuspy&hl=en
Check for better ROM/Kernel combos
Having flashed a lot of ROMs and Kernels, if they don't work well together (and sometimes if they do) your battery life is severely impacted. Since the change came when you updates to ICS, it seems likely thats the cause. Try finding kernels that allow you to use SetCPU or another regulator. You can set power modes to conserve battery, set a scheduler, and most importantly, set up profiles to keep it from heating up!
In short, search the forums for good ROMs, there are no shortage and some are designed to be battery friendly, best of luck!
PS. sometimes after flashing a new ROM, your battery calibration will be off and you'll get wild fluctuations or usage. Some say you can do a process to recalibrate, others say it doesn't work, but it doesn't hurt to try it yourself.
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QUOTE=jamezz23;28479050]I haven't got over 2 hours of screen on time in a hella long time. In my stats I'm not getting any strange results, screen is getting 60% and everything else is under 10% which is normal. I was getting very good battery life in gingerbread but ever since ics roms came out I haven't got anything good and its been a while. Why I think it might be my battery is because if its charging it will reach 110 degrees even if I'm leaving it alone. Screen brightness is under half and I've dropped about 5% just typing this out. Under moderate use the phone will seem to heat up more than it should, so I'm just looking for a little input
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