Hello, Zdzihu give us Bravia Engine. Right, i see differences on his screenshot, but how i can test this option on my x10i? I want to check this on my own eyes
There is some option like "Use bravia engine on this picture" xd
Or this working on all pictures displayed in background?
P.s. sorry for crapy english xd
Hi, yes
there is an option, to tick, on or off, in the settings, then you might be able to see the difference, bout to flash it now, seems legit though
I have checked this option on Settings->Display->Bravia Engine.. ;/
BUT, if i make 1 photo with this, and 1 without, i don't see difference, 2 pics are identical.. not like on Zdzihu pics where i see 2 difference pictures.
I see no difference
Argh.. i try 4 times with taking pictures.. again no differences...
We are RickRoll'D .. ??
I see no difference
intrak said:
Argh.. i try 4 times with taking pictures.. again no differences...
We are RickRoll'D .. ??
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It doesn't effect the quality of pictures taken but the quality of the display...
Lmfao at the thought of people turning it on, taking a picture, turning it off, taking a picture
Only way you can do it is to screen capture a photo with BE on then screencap with it off.
maybe effects of bravia would be noticeable in phones with 16m colors like the new xperia lineup
Bravia "Engine" only affects pictures seen in the Gallery, nothing else, you're thinking about the Exmor Sensor
Alakasam said:
Bravia "Engine" only affects pictures seen in the Gallery, nothing else, you're thinking about the Exmor Sensor
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It also effects videos too when watching something on the phone
Well... then
intrak said:
Or this working on all pictures displayed in background?
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I must compare my phone with other witout bravia. Fine. Xd
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The Bravia engine is simply put a color filter/sharpening filter.
And yes it affects both video and gallery images.
If you flashed the zip file yesterday when it was "only" 50% in Z's thread you won't see any difference because all it did back then was to enable the option in the menu (without actually doing anything else than just enabling the option).
However with the updated release he has enabled the engine for our phone.
I made a simple comparison here:
Without: http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/12/screenshotnon.png/
With: http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/10/screenshot1with.png/
I personally can see quite the difference on this photo (for the better).
Ok, i see.. I check this immediately
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/853/snap20110731132947.png
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/812/snap20110731133038.png
does it really work
lyrel09 said:
does it really work
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Yes, but it's effect works only on photos and videos, just like on every other phone. The difference cannot be seen in regular way, you need to compare 2 photos side-by-side to see the difference.
http://blog.gsmarena.com/heres-what-sony-ericsson-mobile-bravia-engine-really-does-review/
Some photos of with and without Bravia engine, move mouse on the photo to see the another version.
Thanks for the link, you always provide interesting information.
yes i know it works but i mean the the bravia tweak on lww, the lww does not have a bravia engine right.. i tweak my lww and have a menu for be
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yes i know it works but i mean the the bravia tweak on lww, the lww does not have a bravia engine right.. i tweak my lww and have a menu for be
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yeah it works and it does the same as in the phones that come with the bravia engine from factory.
so what permission should i do
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i always thought it was a placebo effect
will be better if you download this guy http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1346190 it works like a charm!!
I had these files extracted from Xperia RAY latest ICS firmware with Unlocked BL. it worked on Xperia Neo, Ray, and Arc even I already unlocked the BL, but anyone who tried to use the Album app on any 2011 devices with unlocked BL, MBE is not working.
i managed to install this apps on my Acro S, it loads the Xperia Gallery but closes once it loads a pic.
Anyone in here who has the knowledge to make this files work on Xperia S and Acro, might help us experience BE on pics again.
Please cooperate.
Files...
here are the files..
I tried this earlier (with many more files); the gallery crashes (it's for GB ROMS). I also tried to use GB libraries from Xperia S past firmwares but even they don't work on ICS.
By the way, I was able to come to the point where the thumbnail loads before the full image in the GB gallery. In that momentary fraction, it appeared ordinary - i.e. the Bravia Engine probably wouldn't work even if the gallery app can be tweaked
The problem is perhaps in the libSwiqi.so (or similarly named file). That is present in ICS but was absent from GB. Replacing some of the other files associated with Bravia engine didn't break the video functionality in my tests, however alterations of this file made the engine stop working altogether (in videos as well ).
This issue is somewhat complex and the exact CAUSE and associated files are hard to determine
Screw Sony for not fixing this yet! It has been several months now...
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P.S. Can anyone with Xperia Arc / 2011 Xperia with working Bravia engine on unlocked bootloader upload that libSwiqi file?
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this files are from xperia ray running ICS. not gingerbread mate.
got them from my xperia ray with unlocked bootloader yet be is working perfectly fine.
i could attach that file you want.. just a sec..
let us help each other in making this work.
others out there dont even care.
mate, i cant see any lib file that goes with the name libSwiqi
i saw someone who is claiming about successfully porting BE to other devices. can you help me analyze which file was used?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1923630
lib file
got this one from acid sound mod files claiming to have BE ported properly.
saying that this file is from 2011 line up.
install the ones i have provided above, together with this mate. then tell me..
I wished I could use this gallery version instead of the Xperia s one.
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Thanks for uploading the files mate. I'll test and report back.
So Xperia Ray still has this old gallery on ICS. We used to have a similar one (and with some different libraries) in GB. i.e. libSwiqiController wasn't present in the GB version of Xperia S as well. In ICS update, Sony added new libraries to control Bravia Engine and that must have messed up..
I'm convinced that the messed up files are the libraries and not the app itself. Would you also check something else: On your Xperia Ray, install QuickPic, turn HW rendering on from settings and check if Bravia Engine appears to work in that mode. (To get an idea about how closely the functioning of BE is related to the gallery app. I noticed that HW mode in 3rd party video players enables Bravia Engine ; maybe it's the same for photos as well)
quickpic
BE doesnt work on quickpic even with hardware acceleration.
and its a misconception with MX video mate. galaxy SII doesnt have MBE but it works the same way with GSII using MX video HW acceleration. i decided to put it under SW when i still have the GSII because it makes the colors less saturated.
MBE only works with sony apps.
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BE doesnt work on quickpic even with hardware acceleration.
and its a misconception with MX video mate. galaxy SII doesnt have MBE but it works the same way with GSII using MX video HW acceleration. i decided to put it under SW when i still have the GSII because it makes the colors less saturated.
MBE only works with sony apps.
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Maybe u don't know that GS3 have a type of display rendering engine! There's are option like: dynamic, standard, or vivid, i forgot! That's y it's work the same way with GS3 or 2 or note! But i think that it's rendering engine isn't any better than Bravia engine!
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ambetdelarosa said:
BE doesnt work on quickpic even with hardware acceleration.
and its a misconception with MX video mate. galaxy SII doesnt have MBE but it works the same way with GSII using MX video HW acceleration. i decided to put it under SW when i still have the GSII because it makes the colors less saturated.
MBE only works with sony apps.
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Hmm.. so QuickPic doesn't work... :\
But as far as MX is concerned, it DEFINITELY uses Bravia on HW. (You can see that the colour saturation and contrast disappears when you turn Bravia off)
MX VIDEO
sorry mate but that is not the case from what i see.
mx video using hw+ also makes the sound louder and better. i think it does the same thing with hw for videos. it enhances something in the process but that is not BE.
then how can you explain it with my GALAXY SII? as you well know, the over rated super over saturated far from reality SUPERAMOLED PLUS will stress your eyes and will lead to head acheif you wont stop looking at it. much worst if you will watch a full length movie.
if you will turn off HW and put it under SW, it gives a more natural color look (taking off about 25%) of color saturation and contrast.
but if you turn it on, it will show something like the ones we experience on our 2012 xperia devices. bumping up colors and showing a less noisy output.
sony has made something magical yet a buggy software. no one managed to port MBE properly with other sony devices like xperia neo L, live with walkman and the good old xperia x10.
anyways, let us keep on searching till we get something to make it work.
any news about the xperia gallery from 2011 line up? i have sent an email to several talented devs, but no one seems to care. sorry if i am not a dev but i think you have a better understanding with programs, right?
monivan said:
Maybe u don't know that GS3 have a type of display rendering engine! There's are option like: dynamic, standard, or vivid, i forgot! That's y it's work the same way with GS3 or 2 or note! But i think that it's rendering engine isn't any better than Bravia engine!
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oh and yes, GSII have those options as well. but you can only select those options under the display settings. and it also have 3 color tones available under the default video player.
but none of these color settings offers the same level of saturation and color accuracy compared to that of SW mode of MXVIDEO.
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sorry mate but that is not the case from what i see.
mx video using hw+ also makes the sound louder and better. i think it does the same thing with hw for videos. it enhances something in the process but that is not BE.
then how can you explain it with my GALAXY SII? as you well know, the over rated super over saturated far from reality SUPERAMOLED PLUS will stress your eyes and will lead to head acheif you wont stop looking at it. much worst if you will watch a full length movie.
if you will turn off HW and put it under SW, it gives a more natural color look (taking off about 25%) of color saturation and contrast.
but if you turn it on, it will show something like the ones we experience on our 2012 xperia devices. bumping up colors and showing a less noisy output.
sony has made something magical yet a buggy software. no one managed to port MBE properly with other sony devices like xperia neo L, live with walkman and the good old xperia x10.
anyways, let us keep on searching till we get something to make it work.
any news about the xperia gallery from 2011 line up? i have sent an email to several talented devs, but no one seems to care. sorry if i am not a dev but i think you have a better understanding with programs, right?
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Hrm, if i compared the SW mode in Gs2 or 3 with xperia s, u'll see same effect! Now try to turn on Hardware acceleration and compare, they both enchance color due to the use of their hardware rendering engines while GS3 got those options, ours got bravia engine, but difcerent effect! If u try to turn off BE in Xperia S and switch between SW and HW there's NO difference! U can try!
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ambetdelarosa said:
oh and yes, GSII have those options as well. but you can only select those options under the display settings. and it also have 3 color tones available under the default video player.
but none of these color settings offers the same level of saturation and color accuracy compared to that of SW mode of MXVIDEO.
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So u mean than those options for GS3 make the display look worse than It should be! Lolz! I've been thinking the same!
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okay, its my mistake. it works with mx
it works with mx, but yeah, superamoled even plus sucks no matter what color calibration or settings you would do. i do not know how others like the greenish and bluish tones of superamoled. now, can you help making xperia gallery work on our devices? it might work that way, but that one works with xperia ray with unlocked bootloader.
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it works with mx, but yeah, superamoled even plus sucks no matter what color calibration or settings you would do. i do not know how others like the greenish and bluish tones of superamoled. now, can you help making xperia gallery work on our devices? it might work that way, but that one works with xperia ray with unlocked bootloader.
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I don't know! I can't make it work for myself neither! Maybe we'll try to pull all BE related file and test with ours! I used to try with GB version! But no use!
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Hi. Its possible to made the bravia for ale display like desktop ? The bravia have very good colors but only in album...
i am interested in this too. can someone write something about this?
Not sure what you are asking but I've been searching all over the net to duplicate the same effect on PC and no luck. It sucks that u can't apply the effect on pictures to be permanent.
One I upload the images on fb I am pretty disappointed from the result.
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If Bravia Engine will get enabled all the time, it'll consume twice of your battery.