Before I dive into the pool, I have a couple of things I'm still not clear on. (I've Been reading for weeks).
I'm on the original-firmware. I'm unlocked, S-ON, Stock Rom, De-bloated (Titanium frozen). I have Amon Ra 3.15 installed and have made a nand backup. The backup consists of 4 image files: boot.img, cache.img data.img and system.img. I've verified it's a good backup by verifying the md5 for each image file.
So if I install a ROM that flashes a new "kernel" via a PH98IMG.ZIP file, does that mean it is flashing that ROM's boot partition?
If I later decide that I want to restore my nand backup, Am I correct in understanding that because I'm still s-on, I cannot restore the boot.img directly from Amon Ra, but rather I would need to convert it to a flash-able PH98IMG.ZIP file and flash it from fastboot? Or am I completely misunderstanding the terminology? Assuming I'n not all messed up, how would I go about converting my boot.img into a PH98IMG.ZIP file? I presume it's not simply zipping it and renaming it...
Thanks for your help.
What do I check to make a NAND backup?
Since it's related to the question above, I didn't want to clutter the forum with a new thread:
Previously a CWM user on the Incredible, there weren't a lot of options to create a backup. On AmonRa, however, there are a bunch of checkboxes -
Boot
System
Data
Cache
Recovery
sd-ext
.android-secure
.android_secure_internalsd
compress_backup
I am S-off, on latest firmware, CleanRom 4.4 Pro.
Which of these checkboxes should I be using?
Thanks,
Alan
adsbar said:
Since it's related to the question above, I didn't want to clutter the forum with a new thread:
Previously a CWM user on the Incredible, there weren't a lot of options to create a backup. On AmonRa, however, there are a bunch of checkboxes -
Boot
System
Data
Cache
Recovery
sd-ext
.android-secure
.android_secure_internalsd
compress_backup
I am S-off, on latest firmware, CleanRom 4.4 Pro.
Which of these checkboxes should I be using?
Thanks,
Alan
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You should check all except recovery..sd-ext...and compress... This will make it easier for u
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nukeboyt said:
I'm on the original-firmware. I'm unlocked, S-ON, Stock Rom, De-bloated (Titanium frozen). I have Amon Ra 3.15 installed and have made a nand backup. The backup consists of 4 image files: boot.img, cache.img data.img and system.img. I've verified it's a good backup by verifying the md5 for each image file.
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You will need a PC til you gain S-Off. Copy out the boot.img and in fastboot do "fastboot flash boot boot.img" or alternatively ....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1547496
Or you could just keep a copy of the boot.IMG for each Rom you have backups for in a folder on your sd card. Rename them so its easy for you to know which is which and before you restore just rename again to PH98IMG.ZIP and drop it on the root of your sd card. Boot to recovery to wipe and restore then to bootloader so the boot.IMG can flash. No pc needed. Hope this helps.
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Also, most Roms are still set up to drop the boot.IMG on the sd card. So just use that one so there is no searching around for the file. Some new roms are coming without this because they flash with the Rom install. So in this case the dev most likely provided the boot.IMG or you may need to unzip the Rom and flash through fastboot. Make sure you read install instructions usually in post 2 or 3 of the Rom thread so you understand the procedure for the setup you have. Might be time to s-off and then you don't have to worry about any of this.
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i didn't work for me....:-(
Mark-- said:
i didn't work for me....:-(
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What didnt work?
Mark-- said:
i didn't work for me....:-(
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Need more information... Also nandroid helper from con supposedly works well for this
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Took the Plunge!
Thanks. It was time. I went ahead and S-OFF'd and expressed my gratitude to to the Drunken Bear.
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REQUIRES S-OFF from HTC-DEV UNLOCK or VIA A REVOLUTIONARY METHOD(IF ONE BECOMES AVAILABLE)
Recovery Features:
ADB as root user
USB-MS Toggle :mounts sdcard or internal_sd as mass storage
Backup/Restore:
Nand Backup : Select Items to backup with the [X]
Nand Restore : browse to and select nandroid backup to restore
Nand Restore Clockwork : browse to and restore cwm backup
Flash Zip From Sdcard: Update.zip must be in root of sdcard or you can directory browse.
Flash Zip from Internal_sd:
Toggle Signature Verify : Turn of signature checking on flashing zips
Wipe Menu:
Wipe data/factory reset: wipes all
Wipe cache
Wipe Dalvik cache : Wipes Dalvik cache in all possible locations if moved by apps2sd
Wipe SD:ext : Wipes Apps2sd ext partition
Wipe Battery Stats
Wipe rotate settings
Wipe data only
Wipe system
Wipe sdcard
Wipe .android secure : Wipes froyo native .android_secure on sdcard
Wipe Internal_SD
Partition Sdcard:
Partition SD: Partition's sdcard for apps2sd (this formats card so all non backed-up data is lost)
Repair Sd:ext
SD:ext2 to ext3 : coverts apps2sd ext2 partition to ext3
SD:ext3 to ext4 : same as above but ext3 to ext4 (
Mounts:
Gui mounts to avoid typing in terminal to mount and cd into a dir to mount system, data, cache, sd-ext (if exists), sdcard
Other:
Fix Permissions
Move recovery log to SD
Key Test : Output keycodes for debugging recovery
Check Battery Lvl
Ext3|4 menu: Formatting and reformating of partitons
Developer menu:
Make and flash boot from zimage : This makes a mkboot folder on sdcard and mounts sdcard as mass storage then you copy a zImage and kernel modules into this folder and it will create a new boot like anykernel and flash it.
Toggle full ext wipe: Toggles full or quick wipe of ext partitions
Install su & superuser: Installs or fixes su & superuser install (removes old if exists)
Install eng (unguarded) su: Installs engineering su that doesn't use superuser (removes old su & superuser if exists)
Reboot to bootloader: reboots to bootloader/hboot
Reboot recovery : reboots phone back into recovery
Manual Create Hboot Kernel Zip :
This option makes a mkboot folder on /sdcard with subfolders called zImage, modules, & androidinfo. Selecting this will mount sdcard to pc as mass storage and then the user adds the zImage, kernel modules, and android-info.txt(from a current RUU) to their respective folders. The installed boot.img will be dumped and zImage(kernel) replaced with new one and repacked into a boot.img. Next existing kernel modules will be removed from current rom and new ones installed. Then a PXXXIMG.zip to be flashed from hboot will be created and you will be rebooted to bootloader to install it.
Auto Flash RA Hboot Setup Zip :
This option lets you browse to and flash a special zip that copies the above listed items to the sdcard in mkboot folder and then automatically runs the above hboot zip creation and reboots you to bootloader to install. Template zip (for kernel dev's) is attached below. Just place the correct items in the folder in zip template and have the user flash the zip using the above option and recovery will do the rest.
Trouble Shooting:
Use option under Other menu to move recovery log to sd. Mount your sdcard to pc and read that file called recovery.log. It should have detailed cause of error.
Special Thanks:
Thanks to :
Amon Ra
Koush
Chingy for testing.
PLEASE NOTE THAT HTC DEV UNLOCK LOCKS BOOT AND RECOVERY SO THOSE CAN ONLY BE UPDATED VIA FASTBOOT. Once Revolutionary full s-off's it recovery will be able to flash those (that is IF they do).
Please flash recovery.img with command "fastboot flash recovery nameofrecovery.img" where nameofrecovery.img is the name of the recovery.img you wish to flash.
OLD VERSION MD5SUM = 9a9ec22821f606694a143b34186831e1 PH98IMG.zip
version 3.10 is here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=20905279&postcount=83
version 3.13 is here
Changes for 3.14 :
Added backup/restore for android_secure on internal_sd. Internal_sd is the internal storage of device. External is the removable micro_sd. Stockish roms may have .android_secure on internal and aosp roms will always have it on external. You will need to know the location of it in your rom or else select both options to make sure its backed up.
Changed font color back to cyan blue. I'll see if its possible to have a txt file on sdcard that lets you select font color in the future (again if its possible).
older version 3.14 recovery-ra-vigor-3.14-gnm.img
md5 915d5e3cb662076f36f3d6e54759e951 recovery-ra-vigor-3.14-gnm.img
version 3.15 & changelog are here V3.15
Latest 3.16 V3.16 Updated the Rooting option and su + superuser option should now work. Note its a zipped .img not an Hboot type zip
md5 = ba69c118eb30ddf05e4743541bec0189 recovery-ra-vigor-3.16-gnm.img.zip
drellisdee said:
PLEASE NOTE THAT HTC DEV UNLOCK LOCKS BOOT AND RECOVERY SO THOSE CAN ONLY BE UPDATED VIA FASTBOOT/HBOOT. Once Revolutionary full s-off's it recovery will be able to flash those.
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I am not sure I am understanding this part of the post. HTC's bootloader unlock will allow us to flash this and boot images, but only via fastboot right? We can flash this recovery image via fastboot and use it to install roms right? We just need to flash this recovery image via fastboot/hboot and then flash the boot image for the rom via fastboot?
Or am I misunderstanding it that we cannot modify recovery or boot in any way (fastboot included) until we are supported by revolutionary?
con247 said:
I am not sure I am understanding this part of the post. HTC's bootloader unlock will allow us to flash this and boot images, but only via fastboot right? We can flash this recovery image via fastboot and use it to install roms right? We just need to flash this recovery image via fastboot/hboot and then flash the boot image for the rom via fastboot?
Or am I misunderstanding it that we cannot modify recovery or boot in any way (fastboot included) until we are supported by revolutionary?
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With htc unlock this has to be flashed from hboot/fastboot. Also with only htc unlock you will not be able to flash a rom that contains a boot.img via recovery till full s-off is acheived. You can however flash the rom minus boot.img then flash boot.img via hboot/fastboot.
Ok. So technically we don't need S-Off, it would just be nice. And boot.imgs are easy to flash via hboot, just pop it in to a PH98img.zip. Obviously recovery would be more convenient, but atleast we don't need to wait for Revolutionary support assuming HTC Dev works.
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Ok. So technically we don't need S-Off, it would just be nice. And boot.imgs are easy to flash via hboot, just pop it in to a PH98img.zip. Obviously recovery would be more convenient, but atleast we don't need to wait for Revolutionary support assuming HTC Dev works.
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The name of the zip depends on the device. The Incredible uses PB31IMG.zip, the Evo uses PB36IMG.zip. Not sure about the Rezound though
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Ok. So technically we don't need S-Off, it would just be nice. And boot.imgs are easy to flash via hboot, just pop it in to a PH98img.zip. Obviously recovery would be more convenient, but atleast we don't need to wait for Revolutionary support assuming HTC Dev works.
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Yes you need s-off. The htc unlock s-off is not a true full s-off. The htc dev unlock s-off lets you flash unsigned zips in hboot. However boot and recovery partitions are write protected unless flashed from bootloader. True s-off like revolutionary give writes acess to boot and recovery partitions outside of bootloader. I just notified everyone about not being able to flash boot.img in recovery with htc dev s-off its not a flaw of recovery but of htc unlock method.
Technically we don't need it though atleast if we are willing to flash via hboot/fastboot while we wait for revolutionary.
I believe their is one that has the s-off It's in themikmik forum the front page
.Elite_The_King. said:
I believe their is one that has the s-off It's in themikmik forum the front page
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Yes that was the device this recovery was tested on. Tester stated it was s on then unlocked by htc dev. Lets try to keep this thread on topic and have another thread about s-off.
drellisdee said:
Yes that was the device this recovery was tested on. Tester stated it was s on then unlocked by htc dev. Lets try to keep this thread on topic and have another thread about s-off.
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Since we kinda need some sort of unlock to use this, and htcdev has removed the Rezound, it is actually on topic.
Has anybody gotten an early delivery of a shipped model that might be working on unlocking it?
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I am sure we will get S-Off one way or another.
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Since we kinda need some sort of unlock to use this, and htcdev has removed the Rezound, it is actually on topic.
Has anybody gotten an early delivery of a shipped model that might be working on unlocking it?
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I've received mine and I have no idea how to figure out how to unlock it, but I would be willing to test if anyone has any ideas. I am experienced in rooting and romming my DX
dsb9938 said:
Since we kinda need some sort of unlock to use this, and htcdev has removed the Rezound, it is actually on topic.
Has anybody gotten an early delivery of a shipped model that might be working on unlocking it?
D
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Please respect my wishes and make a new thread about unlocking. I don't wish to comb pages and pages on this thread to have to get feedback and bug reports about recovery and have to sift through pages of unrelated posts about unlocking. This thread is for recovery only.
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Please respect my wishes and make a new thread about unlocking. I don't wish to comb pages and pages on this thread to have to get feedback and bug reports about recovery and have to sift through pages of unrelated posts about unlocking. This thread is for recovery only.
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Sure. I won't be making a thread though. They just get moved to the general or Q&A forums where nobody who has any idea what they're doing ever goes. Something I never got about XDA, why no DEV Q&A?
Anyway, good luck keeping your thread pretty.
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Please respect my wishes and make a new thread about unlocking. I don't wish to comb pages and pages on this thread to have to get feedback and bug reports about recovery and have to sift through pages of unrelated posts about unlocking. This thread is for recovery only.
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Since we need to be unlocked to use this recovery and people are trying to get a grasp on what good this would be to us at this point considering that the device is locked. The unlocking questions are relevant in this thread. So what can be accomplished by flashing this recovery if the device is s-off? What would this recovery allow us to do? Flash custom roms? Or just make a nand backup? What is the point of releasing or using this recovery at this point if we don't have s-off? I think that is a point of confusion and as a result questions on unlocking the bootloader are surfacing on this thread. Could you please advise or clarify for a dumba$$ such as myself on what this awesome recovery could be used for on the device considering that it is s-off and only has temporary root at this point? I have read the original post several times and I am still a little confused on this. If the original post has somehow flew over my head please feel free to flame away at me. I am not thinned skinned and do not have to rebuke or retort any harsh responses. Maybe your response could help clear the air and eliminate any further unlocking questions. Thank you in advance for any help or clarification you can provide.
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Since we need to be unlocked to use this recovery and people are trying to get a grasp on what good this would be to us at this point considering that the device is locked. The unlocking questions are relevant in this thread. So what can be accomplished by flashing this recovery if the device is s-off? What would this recovery allow us to do? Flash custom roms? Or just make a nand backup? What is the point of releasing or using this recovery at this point if we don't have s-off? I think that is a point of confusion and as a result questions on unlocking the bootloader are surfacing on this thread. Could you please advise or clarify for a dumba$$ such as myself on what this awesome recovery could be used for on the device considering that it is s-off and only has temporary root at this point? I have read the original post several times and I am still a little confused on this. If the original post has somehow flew over my head please feel free to flame away at me. I am not thinned skinned and do not have to rebuke or retort any harsh responses. Maybe your response could help clear the air and eliminate any further unlocking questions. Thank you in advance for any help or clarification you can provide.
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I'm not gonna flame, as I had the same questions back when o first got the Incredible. He put it out here just so that when we do get S-off, we can have it. Just like the roms. We can flash these from recovery. A recovery can be used to flash roms, kernels, make nandroids, wipe data, and mount storage. If you have any questions, don't be afraid to ask. Most of us here at XDA will not flame you, as we had the same questions not so long ago.
Sent from my Rezound 4G using XDA App
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I'm not gonna flame, as I had the same questions back when o first got the Incredible. He put it out here just so that when we do get S-off, we can have it. Just like the roms. We can flash these from recovery. A recovery can be used to flash roms, kernels, make nandroids, wipe data, and mount storage. If you have any questions, don't be afraid to ask. Most of us here at XDA will not flame you, as we had the same questions not so long ago.
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OK. Excellent. Thank you for your response. That was the basis of my confusion was the timing of this release. From my perspective I did not understand why this was released at this point in development considering the phone is not unlocked at this point. The release of this recovery at this point left me with the confusion that flashing a custom rom could somehow be accomplished by using this recovery as of the release date of this recovery. Thank you again for clarifying. Nothing further needs to be discussed relating to unlocking and this recovery.
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OK. Excellent. Thank you for your response. That was the basis of my confusion was the timing of this release. From my perspective I did not understand why this was released at this point in development considering the phone is not unlocked at this point. The release of this recovery at this point left me with the confusion that flashing a custom rom could somehow be accomplished by using this recovery as of the release date of this recovery. Thank you again for clarifying. Nothing further needs to be discussed relating to unlocking and this recovery.
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It was made and tested on a vigor pre official release when the htc dev site worked to s-off the phone. That method no longer is available. The recovery will work as same as for any other device once a new route to s-off is available.
so question... once i actually get s-off and start using this recovery... the menu option for "Wipe data/factory reset", will that wipe the internal SD? I'm hoping that it won't, as normally when i flash a new rom, i do a "data wipe", but i wouldn't really want the internal SD to get wiped in that case.
marclile said:
so question... once i actually get s-off and start using this recovery... the menu option for "Wipe data/factory reset", will that wipe the internal SD? I'm hoping that it won't, as normally when i flash a new rom, i do a "data wipe", but i wouldn't really want the internal SD to get wiped in that case.
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Good question. I learned the hard way that a normal factory reset will wipe the internal memory. It never did this on the Incredible.
I've just unlocked my rezound and i'm trying to root via my mac. i downloaded the amonra recovery and put it in my android folder. i've got my phone rebooted and i'm in the fastboot usb menu. i have bootloader, reboot, reboot bootloader, and power down as options.
a little help?
maybe i'm just not meant to root my phone :-(
On mine the command was ./fastboot recovery recovery.img as long as you are in fastboot in the bootloader.
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Since you're in fastboot usb, make sure the recovery image is in the android tools folder containing fastboot.exe. The command is "fastboot flash recovery recovery.img" without the quotes and recovery.img being the name of the image file you put in your android tools folder.
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Since you're in fastboot usb, make sure the recovery image is in the android tools folder containing fastboot.exe. The command is "fastboot flash recovery recovery.img" without the quotes and recovery.img being the name of the image file you put in your android tools folder.
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Damn knew i was missing something lol well said.
alright, got amonra installed with the right path and all, went to dev options, installed su & superuser, rebooted, i see superuser, but NOTHING is getting root access.... titanium backup, file explorer... nothing.
so, i don't think it's really rooted. sigh.
if it makes a difference, i was on the ICS leak prior to all this. make a difference?
Not really sure are you on stock right now or did you flash a rooted Rom?
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tp62688 said:
Not really sure are you on stock right now or did you flash a rooted Rom?
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stock right now, no rooted rom.
brewner said:
stock right now, no rooted rom.
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Have you rebooted since rooting through Amon and installing SU? If that doesn't solve it, installing one of the rooted ROMs should.
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Have you rebooted since rooting through Amon and installing SU? If that doesn't solve it, installing one of the rooted ROMs should.
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I concur lol
OLDsJUNKIE said:
Have you rebooted since rooting through Amon and installing SU? If that doesn't solve it, installing one of the rooted ROMs should.
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Suggestions?
I would just flash a prerooted Rom thats what I did with mine installed the root user access from amonra didn't work for me. You gonna go with GB or ICS?
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I would just flash a prerooted Rom thats what I did with mine installed the root user access from amonra didn't work for me. You gonna go with GB or ICS?
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I would prefer ICS.
I would read up on BAMF ICS or Cleanrom ICS and follow the steps to flash as long as you are on the new firmware. There are others but those are the ones that I've tried I'm currently on BAMF.
BAMF looks more straightforward. waiting for a response on a question over there.
What did you need to know?
it *appears* that i'm ready to flash. there are two files that i've downloaded. one is a rom, the other a kernal. i'm trying to figure out which is which and what my next steps are.
here are the instructions, and i'm wondering how important the nandroid backup is, since i'm basically starting fresh.
Download rom file and PH98IMGnewfirmwarepeople.zip
Rename PH98IMGnewfirmwarepeople.zip to "PH98IMG.zip" without the quotes
Place both files on external SD card and reboot to recovery
Make a nandroid backup
Wipe data, cache, dalvic cache, and system
Flash the rom through the "Flash Zip Menu" in recovery
From main recovery screen, choose "Developer Menu"
Select "Reboot to Bootloader" from the developer menu
Phone will reboot to hboot, you may have to select bootloader from hboot screen
Bootloader will load the PH98IMG.zip, select "Yes" to update.
Rock on with your bad self and reboot system
The one with BAMF in the title is typically the Rom and the kernel would either be oldfirmwarepeople.zip or newfirmwarepeople.zip this file has to be renamed as PH98IMG.zip and place on the ext sd card. Then in amon-ra wipe everything and flash the rom zip then from the developer menu boot into bootloader and let it apply the kernel update then it will reboot then profit.
do you see any issues with following the directions above?
Hi,
Let me start off by saying that I have viewed other threads but have not been able to find one that has this same exact problem. Can someone please help?
I have an HTC Evo 3D unlocked with the HTC method, S-On.
I put a new rom on my SD card, I was using InfectedRom but it had some issues. I loaded into bootloader and used revolutionary to flash the rom. I didn't do a wipe or anything else, thinking that it would just flash the rom and I would be good to go.
The phone gets stuck on the HTC splash screen when I go to boot it. I have tried everything from restoring from a back up, to wiping the phone to wiping the cache and am at a loss.
Can someone please offer me some advice? I really need to get this phone back up and running.
Thanks in advance.
Did you flash the boot.img for the ROM?
How can I do that?
Jep4444 said:
Did you flash the boot.img for the ROM?
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Thanks for the quick response. How can I go about doing that?
thealist said:
Thanks for the quick response. How can I go about doing that?
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Considering you're S-ON, how did you install a custom ROM in the first place without doing so?
thealist said:
Thanks for the quick response. How can I go about doing that?
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You can do that by using fastboot to boot your recovery image.
Code:
fastboot boot [NAMEOFRECOVERY].img
Just running your recovery normally won't allow flashing to certain partitions.
From there, you shouldn't have any problems flashing the full image. The second option would be to use 4EXT recovery (There's a CDMA/GSM version, but don't know off the top of my head), or joeykrim's FlashImageGUI to assist in flashing to specific partitions from the phone.
Edit: CDMA and GSM correction.
Jep4444 said:
Considering you're S-ON, how did you install a custom ROM in the first place without doing so?
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thealist took the HTCDev unlock which doesn't give S-OFF, but does allow the user to flash custom ROMs.
~co~
closeone said:
You can do that by using fastboot to boot your recovery image.
Code:
fastboot boot [NAMEOFRECOVERY].img
Just running your recovery normally won't allow flashing to certain partitions.
From there, you shouldn't have any problems flashing the full image. The second option would be to use 4EXT recovery (There's a CDMA/GSM version, but don't know off the top of my head), or joeykrim's FlashImageGUI to assist in flashing to specific partitions from the phone.
Edit: CDMA and GSM correction.
thealist took the HTCDev unlock which doesn't give S-OFF, but does allow the user to flash custom ROMs.
~co~
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Don't S-ON roms still need the boot.img to be flashed to install any ROM?
closeone said:
You can do that by using fastboot to boot your recovery image.
Code:
fastboot boot [NAMEOFRECOVERY].img
Where do I find my recovery image?
Just running your recovery normally won't allow flashing to certain partitions.
From there, you shouldn't have any problems flashing the full image. The second option would be to use 4EXT recovery (There's a CDMA/GSM version, but don't know off the top of my head), or joeykrim's FlashImageGUI to assist in flashing to specific partitions from the phone.
Edit: CDMA and GSM correction.
Thanks. Where would I find this and do I put that into the root sd card portion of my phone and then run through the bootloader? Sorry, I am relatively new to this process. Thanks for your patience.
thealist took the HTCDev unlock which doesn't give S-OFF, but does allow the user to flash custom ROMs.
That's exactly what I did.
~co~
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Thanks for all the help. It's very much appreciated.
closeone said:
You can do that by using fastboot to boot your recovery image.
Code:
fastboot boot [NAMEOFRECOVERY].img
Just running your recovery normally won't allow flashing to certain partitions.
From there, you shouldn't have any problems flashing the full image. The second option would be to use 4EXT recovery (There's a CDMA/GSM version, but don't know off the top of my head), or joeykrim's FlashImageGUI to assist in flashing to specific partitions from the phone.
Edit: CDMA and GSM correction.
thealist took the HTCDev unlock which doesn't give S-OFF, but does allow the user to flash custom ROMs.
~co~
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Sorry, my last post did not quote correctly.
How do I find my recovery image?
Once I get FlashImageGUI, do I put that into the root of my SD card by plugging it into my mac?
Jep4444 said:
Don't S-ON roms still need the boot.img to be flashed to install any ROM?
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Well, all ROMs will need to have a boot.img flashed to boot, but since they are included in the ZIP file containing the ROM, they are normally flashed along with the ROM. If you use FlashImageGUI, you can flash from a boot.img or from a kernel zip file. By running the fastboot boot command, this allows the user to flash to partitions that are locked when booted into recovery from the bootloader.
thealist said:
Sorry, my last post did not quote correctly.
How do I find my recovery image?
Once I get FlashImageGUI, do I put that into the root of my SD card by plugging it into my mac?
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These are two different methods for accomplishing the same task.
Have you loaded a custom recovery (like ClockworkMod Recovery, TWRP, or 4EXT) before? If you've kept the recovery image on your computer, you can just use that one. Instead of flashing it to your recovery partition (fastboot flash recovery [NAMEOFRECOVERY].img), you would boot to it instead (fastboot boot [NAMEOFRECOVERY].img).
If you use want to use FlashImageGUI, you would copy it to your SD card, install it on the phone, and run the app. Make sure that you've got the ROM you want to flash on the SDCard. If I remember correctly, FlashImageGUI will pull the boot.img out of the ZIP and flash it. Then you will have to boot into your custom recovery to flash the rest of the image. Flashing just the boot image will most likely leave you with a phone that won't boot (until you flash the rest of the ROM).
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Well, all ROMs will need to have a boot.img flashed to boot, but since they are included in the ZIP file containing the ROM, they are normally flashed along with the ROM. If you use FlashImageGUI, you can flash from a boot.img or from a kernel zip file. By running the fastboot boot command, this allows the user to flash to partitions that are locked when booted into recovery from the bootloader.
These are two different methods for accomplishing the same task.
Have you loaded a custom recovery (like ClockworkMod Recovery, TWRP, or 4EXT) before? If you've kept the recovery image on your computer, you can just use that one. Instead of flashing it to your recovery partition (fastboot flash recovery [NAMEOFRECOVERY].img), you would boot to it instead (fastboot boot [NAMEOFRECOVERY].img).
If you use want to use FlashImageGUI, you would copy it to your SD card, install it on the phone, and run the app. Make sure that you've got the ROM you want to flash on the SDCard. If I remember correctly, FlashImageGUI will pull the boot.img out of the ZIP and flash it. Then you will have to boot into your custom recovery to flash the rest of the image. Flashing just the boot image will most likely leave you with a phone that won't boot (until you flash the rest of the ROM).
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I have never loaded ClockworkMod Recovery, TWRP, or 4EXT to my phone. Is that something I can download online and then transfer to my phone using the bootloader? I have Revolutionary which allows me to mount the SD card. Same thing goes for FlasImageGUI. I can't get past the HTC load screen so is that something I can just transfer and use Bootloader with?
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I have never loaded ClockworkMod Recovery, TWRP, or 4EXT to my phone. Is that something I can download online and then transfer to my phone using the bootloader? I have Revolutionary which allows me to mount the SD card. Same thing goes for FlasImageGUI. I can't get past the HTC load screen so is that something I can just transfer and use Bootloader with?
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What is this 'Revolutionary' that you're talking about? I realize that multiple pieces of software can be called the same thing though. How did you load on the ROM that you're currently on? Also, before I link you anywhere (because I don't want you loading the wrong recovery on your phone), is your phone on Sprint, or another carrier? You'd use Recovery to load ROMs, back them up, and so on.
What exactly was it that you were trying to do? Or rather, how did the phone get to a state where it's frozen on the HTC logo? Do you have a custom ROM loaded, or the stock ROM?
Sorry for all the questions, and hopefully this response doesn't come off rude (I don't mean it to ). I'm just trying to figure out what's going on before I suggest anything.
If you are on Sprint, you can run this recovery from Fastboot USB mode.
Code:
fastboot boot cwm-4.0.1.4-shooter.img
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What is this 'Revolutionary' that you're talking about? I realize that multiple pieces of software can be called the same thing though. How did you load on the ROM that you're currently on? Also, before I link you anywhere (because I don't want you loading the wrong recovery on your phone), is your phone on Sprint, or another carrier? You'd use Recovery to load ROMs, back them up, and so on.
What exactly was it that you were trying to do? Or rather, how did the phone get to a state where it's frozen on the HTC logo? Do you have a custom ROM loaded, or the stock ROM?
Sorry for all the questions, and hopefully this response doesn't come off rude (I don't mean it to ). I'm just trying to figure out what's going on before I suggest anything.
If you are on Sprint, you can run this recovery from Fastboot USB mode.
Code:
fastboot boot cwm-4.0.1.4-shooter.img
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Your questions are really appreciated. Sorry I haven't been more clear.I really appreciate the help as I've gotten myself in trouble here.
I went on htcevohack and found how to flash the synergy infectedrom. The rom has some bugs in it so I downloaded a new rom and placed in the root folder of my SD card. Revolutionary is a program that allows me to wipe data, install from zip card, mount storage so and so forth. I tried to flash the zip from the new rom using this program and this is where I have had the problem. I have the Sprint Evo 3D. I am relatively new to this and just want a stable rom that has wifi tether on it. Thanks again for the help and for the patience.
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Your questions are really appreciated. Sorry I haven't been more clear.I really appreciate the help as I've gotten myself in trouble here.
I went on htcevohack and found how to flash the synergy infectedrom. The rom has some bugs in it so I downloaded a new rom and placed in the root folder of my SD card. Revolutionary is a program that allows me to wipe data, install from zip card, mount storage so and so forth. I tried to flash the zip from the new rom using this program and this is where I have had the problem. I have the Sprint Evo 3D. I am relatively new to this and just want a stable rom that has wifi tether on it. Thanks again for the help and for the patience.
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Oh! Now I know what your talking about. Max from HTCEVOHacks put the Revolutionary branded version of ClockworkMod Recovery in that archive. I know that for a fact (I downloaded it). It's actually the same version of ClockworkMod Recovery that I linked you to.
Okay. Here's my suggestion to start out with. Flash the recovery.img he included (CWM) onto your phone by booting it up into the bootloader, connecting it to your computer making sure that the phone is in FASTBOOT USB mode. Instead of running the command:
Code:
fastboot boot recovery.img
Run the command:
Code:
fastboot flash recovery recovery.img
That will put a copy of ClockworkMod Recovery on your phone. It's accessible by selecting Recovery from the HBOOT menu.
Now, because HTC's Unlock method doesn't unlock enough to flash most images to your phone, you'll still have to run the 'fastboot boot recovery.img' command each time you want to flash different image. That's the classic way we have used to get around HTC's restrictions.
From there, you can flash another image. Make sure to wipe data before flashing.
The reason I told you to also flash the recovery image to your phone is because, you can still create NANDroid backups without connecting to a computer. However, to restore those backups, you'll have to 'fastboot boot ...' the recovery image.
Now, his archive is quite dated. I'd personally recommend after you flash a new ROM, that you take a look at the 4EXT recovery thread in the EVO 3D CDMA development forum. It's really very good (I also like TWRP as well).
Now, there probably wasn't a problem with the ROM. I've used it myself, and have found it to be quite stable. If you flash a ROM onto the phone without wiping data first, you'll probably run into problems booting the ROM. If you liked InfectedRom Eternity, you can always try it again.
This is where NANDroid backups are important. If anything gets messed up, you can easily restore from one in your custom recovery (CWM/4EXT/TWRP).
I hope I didn't throw too much out there. Hopefully this gets you off the ground.
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Oh! Now I know what your talking about. Max from HTCEVOHacks put the Revolutionary branded version of ClockworkMod Recovery in that archive. I know that for a fact (I downloaded it). It's actually the same version of ClockworkMod Recovery that I linked you to.
Okay. Here's my suggestion to start out with. Flash the recovery.img he included (CWM) onto your phone by booting it up into the bootloader, connecting it to your computer making sure that the phone is in FASTBOOT USB mode. Instead of running the command:
Code:
fastboot boot recovery.img
Run the command:
Code:
fastboot flash recovery recovery.img
That will put a copy of ClockworkMod Recovery on your phone. It's accessible by selecting Recovery from the HBOOT menu.
Now, because HTC's Unlock method doesn't unlock enough to flash most images to your phone, you'll still have to run the 'fastboot boot recovery.img' command each time you want to flash different image. That's the classic way we have used to get around HTC's restrictions.
From there, you can flash another image. Make sure to wipe data before flashing.
The reason I told you to also flash the recovery image to your phone is because, you can still create NANDroid backups without connecting to a computer. However, to restore those backups, you'll have to 'fastboot boot ...' the recovery image.
Now, his archive is quite dated. I'd personally recommend after you flash a new ROM, that you take a look at the 4EXT recovery thread in the EVO 3D CDMA development forum. It's really very good (I also like TWRP as well).
Now, there probably wasn't a problem with the ROM. I've used it myself, and have found it to be quite stable. If you flash a ROM onto the phone without wiping data first, you'll probably run into problems booting the ROM. If you liked InfectedRom Eternity, you can always try it again.
This is where NANDroid backups are important. If anything gets messed up, you can easily restore from one in your custom recovery (CWM/4EXT/TWRP).
I hope I didn't throw too much out there. Hopefully this gets you off the ground.
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Thanks a lot! I am going to try this right now. I have a mac so I am assuming that I need to use terminal which is what I originally used. Do you know if the extension you provided were also for a mac?
Anyone out there with the Stock ICS Nandroid backup from a Wind Mobile Amaze 4G I need your files!
Long story short I lost my Nandroid back up and now can't return to stock. Please help! Thank you in advance.
Just download an ruu or rooted ota from dev section and flash. Nandroid backups have personal information as well so I doubt anyone will offer that
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I have tried that, it fails every time, gets to parsing PH85IMG then goes back hboot. From what I have read it seems that because the ICS update for Wind, Telus, Mobilicity, was OTA it can only be installed as an update. I can't install a previous version because I already updated to ICS while I was using stock. I have found threads of the Nandroid backups for other Canadian Carriers, just not Wind.
If I am wrong and you have any suggestions as to why the stock RUU's would fail to install please share them! I ran out of options and getting a Nandroid was the only other idea I could find that might work.
Thank you!
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I have tried that, it fails every time, gets to parsing PH85IMG then goes back hboot. From what I have read it seems that because the ICS update for Wind, Telus, Mobilicity, was OTA it can only be installed as an update. I can't install a previous version because I already updated to ICS while I was using stock. I have found threads of the Nandroid backups for other Canadian Carriers, just not Wind.
If I am wrong and you have any suggestions as to why the stock RUU's would fail to install please share them! I ran out of options and getting a Nandroid was the only other idea I could find that might work.
Thank you!
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Are you S-Off? Unlocked? Rooted? Or what? We need more information.
I am unlocked, rooted, s-on, using Speed ROM 6.
When trying the install I had the zip file on the SD Card renamed to PH85IMG.zip (only one .zip), with relocked bootloader. I even tried extracting the recovery.img and boot.img and flashing them first. Every time I just ended up at the HTC boot screen.
EDIT: And using 4EXT Recovery
koroth said:
I am unlocked, rooted, s-on, using Speed ROM 6.
When trying the install I had the zip file on the SD Card renamed to PH85IMG.zip (only one .zip), with relocked bootloader. I even tried extracting the recovery.img and boot.img and flashing them first. Every time I just ended up at the HTC boot screen.
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You could try unlocking your bootloader, then extracting the OTA zip, and then grab the img files, and then flashing the boot.img, system.img, and data.img (and recovery.img if you want to restore it to as stock as possible)
You would effectively have a stock ROM.
The commands:
fastboot flash boot boot.img
fastboot flash system system.img
fastboot flash data data.img
fastboot flash recovery recovery.img
That sounded very straight forward before I got the OTA update downloaded and extracted. The boot and recovery files are obvious. The data and system files not so much.
There are two files that could be the data ones, called rcdata and mdmrcdata. Then there is only directories called system, no image files. One is in the root directory and the other is in a patch directory. Can I just compress the root system directory into an image file? Will it function the same? And do you know which data file I should use?
Thanks again for your help.
Thanks for the help, finally gave up and gained S-OFF. Flashed an old hboot and ran the wind mobile ruu.exe from the wiki. Currently downloading OTA update from a stock wind mobile ROM!
edit.... so I somehow miraculously now have it working again.... installed amon-ra recovery, then unsuccessfully flashed Neo, but was able to get Ecliptic Rez to work... can't seem to delete this thread though...
Hi,
So I was running the most recent RUU re-locked, S-on.
I went through the unlock process successfully, then got TWRP on my phone (not even sure how this worked... was using the Rezound all-in-one tool, it didn't seem to work properly the first time, but was able to pull up TWRP through Recover later on) then used TWRP to flash SuperSU and was rooted. Then feeling cocky I went ahead and did a clean wipe (note: I was very dumb and never setup a Restore... I thought, oh everything is going great, I'll just flash real quick, no reason to create a backup.... lesson learned haha) and tried to flash Ecliptic Rez. The first time it didn't work... it almost instantly said it was "installed" but didn't work. I tried to Flash it again, this time it looked good, took a while to install, everything looked great. I rebooted and the EclipticRez splash screen came up.... but then it stayed up, and it's still up. I can go back to recovery/hboot/whatever.
If it matters I pretty much flashed Ecliptic with all the options as default (except I chose S-on)...
I also tried just now to flash NeoMax2.0 but this is stuck at the splash screen as well. I tried to flash this rom first by having it as PM98IMG.zip on my root, but it didn't seem to install properly (it went through an initial phase on hboot for about a minute then went back to the hboot screen. So I then flashed it using TWRP, it said it was "injected successfully" (or something like that) but then when I rebooted it went to the splash screen and is stuck there...
If it matters too, my phone is "unlocked" and "tampered" on hboot.
My questions are...
Where should I go from here?
I really don't wanna mess with S-OFF..
I'm trying to learn more about amon-ra recovery but it's gonna take a while for me to digest all that info.
Could it be a TWRP issue in some way?
Any help/ideas would be greatly appreciated, thanks!
For future reference, since you are s-on (as am I) you need to flash the kernel after the ROM.
Some ROMs you have to pull the kernel out and do it in fastboot, or some, like Ecliptic, will put a PH98IMG on your sd card and put you in hboot after the ROM flashes. Then you accept the update if it doesn't start automatically and it will flash the kernel and then you should be able to boot.
You shouldn't need to rename the ROM to PH98IMG, just select flash zip in recovery and navigate to it.
feralicious said:
For future reference, since you are s-on (as am I) you need to flash the kernel after the ROM.
Some ROMs you have to pull the kernel out and do it in fastboot, or some, like Ecliptic, will put a PH98IMG on your sd card and put you in hboot after the ROM flashes. Then you accept the update if it doesn't start automatically and it will flash the kernel and then you should be able to boot.
You shouldn't need to rename the ROM to PH98IMG, just select flash zip in recovery and navigate to it.
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That's dead on! Thank you. That was the difference I noticed. I'm not sure why, but amon-ra after flashing EclipticRez sent me back to hboot and there I realized that I was supposed to do another step, and at that point I thought, hey this might work this time lol
Out of curiosity.... so you say some ROMs have you "pull the kernel out" - what exactly does that mean? Would I have to download (or perhaps just located the kernel in the SD card) and change that to PH98IMG and put it on SD Root so it loads that update in hboot? Thanks
Since I download everything to my pc then transfer to my phone, what I do is just look in the ROM zip file in explorer and then copy the boot.img out of it into my fastboot folder. Then I just flash it from there using:
fastboot flash boot boot.img
There's probably a way to get it out using Root Explorer or ES File Explorer, but I don't know how you would put it into a PH98IMG file on the phone.
I avoid PH98IMG files whenever possible. Those could be anything packaged up into a file named PH98IMG and I feel safer flashing something using the real name. Would hate to use the wrong PH98IMG file by accident and do something I regret later.
feralicious said:
Since I download everything to my pc then transfer to my phone, what I do is just look in the ROM zip file in explorer and then copy the boot.img out of it into my fastboot folder. Then I just flash it from there using:
fastboot flash boot boot.img
There's probably a way to get it out using Root Explorer or ES File Explorer, but I don't know how you would put it into a PH98IMG file on the phone.
I avoid PH98IMG files whenever possible. Those could be anything packaged up into a file named PH98IMG and I feel safer flashing something using the real name. Would hate to use the wrong PH98IMG file by accident and do something I regret later.
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Ok cool, so you'd flash your ROM first using the command prompt, then after the ROM has finished installing and you're back in hboot you would then flash the boot.img (aka Kernel right?)?
Flash the ROM in recovery - on the phone, not fastboot. I just download to my pc and store everything there then copy what I need to my phone when I want. So when I flash a ROM I copy it to my sd card to use in my phone.
Then you may or may not have to flash the kernel in fastboot. Only need to use fastboot if the ROM doesn't make a PH98IMG file for you and put it on your sd card. If it does make one I believe it will put you in bootloader and ask you if you want to update and you just select yes with no need to use pc.