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Im now on the evaluation period of WM6 AKU.03, coz im looking for a good ROM which will save my battery. I used to install XCPUScalar in all ROM (auto scale coz i thought lesser batt) , i stop using SPB mobile already coz i know its power hungry, but still my life of Atom Pure is 24 hrs maximum. BUT AFTER REMOVING XCPUSCALAR ON MY ATOM ( AS SUGGEST BY CKAIDI) MY BATTERY LIFE BECOME GOOD... 70% now as of 3pm -last charge 7pm yesterday...i think now it will last for 2-3 days now
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Please post other TIPS TO SAVE BATTERY and have a GOOD BATTERY LIFE in our Atom
That's true... It eats up battery life (on my Hima and my exec WM5). seems like it's the same case with WM6. Oh well, nice to hear that discovery though. I dont overclock anyway.
Yeah, had the same experience with XCPUScalar. Why isn't there an overclocking program that doesn't do this? Better yet, why the hell does my video skip if I stream the sound over bluetooth unless I overclock? -.-
so now many agree to me coz they experience it too...now it is ver clear.
if you donot overclock then there should be no issue with the battery..
You should autoscale the frequency .. low freq when system is idle and high for power hungry applications..
Based my try out with many many 3rd party softwares, hard resetting to confirm. Things that eat battery power are down to 3 main things
=>> Hardware usage eg. bluetooth, wifi
=>> RAM
=>> CPU Load
For RAM we can do nothing about it. Be it your device start with 30mb free or 10mb free, it consume the same amount of battery as RAM always and never stop running.
For Hardware usage, you can reduce the usage to increase the battery hours. Go setting->Connections->Beam = uncheck the Receive all incoming beams.
Reduce the usage of camera, bluetooth simple as that
Reduce the backlight power will increase the battery by alot.
For CPU Load, this is the part why XCPUscalar can reduce battery life. It keep CPU running and running tell it what speed to run on and although it had little effect on the RAM but the CPU load is very very high. Try install batterystatus and see the CPU usage, it show 100% usage at all times. And if you have rltoday on your today screen, although it does not eat much RAM but you will see CPU usage jumping from 1-5% every sec as the clock's sec update. Activesync is another thing that always auto run in the background that eat your battery without you knowing it!! ALWAY KILL IT with your task manager!!
Therefore low RAM low resource program doesn't mean eat less power!!
CHeer!!!
kaidi
I dont think XCPUscalar just only eat the battery life. In my case, it save the battery.
When i set it to this :
Speed / CPU usage
a. 208 / 0-25%
b. 312 / 26-50%
c. 416 / 51-75%
d. 520 / 76-100%
As you see, in almost time, our ATOM will run with 0-50% CPU usage. With that setting, it use the lower speed and save the battery life. And when we run some applications which need the power CPU, Ofcouse we should lose the battery for the high performance.
XCPUscalar's not only overclock your CPU but also help you save the battery life!
shpy said:
I dont think XCPUscalar just only eat the battery life. In my case, it save the battery.
When i set it to this :
Speed / CPU usage
a. 208 / 0-25%
b. 312 / 26-50%
c. 416 / 51-75%
d. 520 / 76-100%
As you see, in almost time, our ATOM will run with 0-50% CPU usage. With that setting, it use the lower speed and save the battery life. And when we run some applications which need the power CPU, Ofcouse we should lose the battery for the high performance.
XCPUscalar's not only overclock your CPU but also help you save the battery life!
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your atom will be slow then, im using autoscale before thats why.
most of our experience is other story, sorry my friend
generalriden said:
your atom will be slow then, im using autoscale before thats why.
most of our experience is other story, sorry my friend
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Lower speed = lesser power (save batt) TRUE
Process of Pushing CPU to Lower speed = High CPU load (eat batt too)
So end up not saving much batt too. I suggest u try with and without XCPUscaler and see the batt life then you decide which is good or bad for you. I do keep it in my device but only run it when I'm playing resources demanding games
generalriden is right, why scale down ur device speed when it doesnt save you batt. AND i am confirm that jiggs's ROM is already very fast at aku3.3.3 and very very sure that in his wm6, you wont need it cos it will be damn fast!! yeah!!
CHeer!!
kaidi
I also recommend removing XCPUscaler at startup if you don't need to overclock your atom all the time (autoscale is useless to me). Just run it when you need it.
Lower speed = lesser power (save batt) TRUE
Process of Pushing CPU to Lower speed = High CPU load (eat batt too)
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I do not use autoscale.
Listening to MP3s with GSPlayer over Bluetooth, EVEN AT FORCED 208MHZ with Scalar, the Atom eats battery faster than without it running, taking up about 2-3% more power in just half an hour (Note that the lowest automatic stepping on the Atom by default is 208mhz). Both with screen on and off.
And that's unfortunately with regular skipping, which only running at forced 624mhz solves.
Overnight on sleep mode, an Atom w/[email protected] consumes 1% more power than an Atom wo Scalar.
A little research on my part seems to show that Scalar doesn't adjust voltage supplied to the processor, only speed. This is why the slowest settings still eat more battery than leaving it alone - the processor is still supplied a constant voltage. Now, I'm not saying Scalar doesn't work - it does (which is especially great for Bluetooth streaming). However, it's not in the way you expect.
For now, I set it to perma overclock @624, and exit the program completely when I don't need it.
*waits for next version, hopefully with voltage stepping support this time*
Ei, i agree with that.. i just use scalar when i need more power from my atom like watching movies but i always close it afterwards..
Now with NEW WM6, my battery life is still good without XCPUSCALAR. Everything is doing well, 2 days before I recharge. With a good numbers of calls..
ryve25 said:
Ei, i agree with that.. i just use scalar when i need more power from my atom like watching movies but i always close it afterwards..
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your right bro!
One more thing:
Dont forget to DISABLE the receive all beams in your atom. I forget this once then my battery life goes back for one day only. Now I disabled it, my batt life goes to normal again 2-3 days
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your right bro!
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i'm using scalar just after i perform a soft reset, (it usually slow), then open all folders, (accesories, games, office mobile, etc), next, i open setting menu, move from personal tabs to system tabs and connection tabs, then i close the scalar,.
my batt drain not so quickly, because i dont use any apps like scalar,.
just dont install too many apps in your device, it will reduce your speed then,.
i think the speed of my atom while using scalar and not using scalar is same,.
not if play music or movie, it become slower,.
wat is the best speed to use when surfing the internet??!!
ghostrecon2050 said:
wat is the best speed to use when surfing the internet??!!
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520 but you will not feel the difference...just dont use it
ghostrecon2050 said:
wat is the best speed to use when surfing the internet??!!
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its up to you bro, you may use 520 or higher is fine, i think generalriden was right, nothing changed,.
As experienced by most people, without XCPUscalar the battery life of their ATOM is better.
any help????
my wife's battery life is so bad
I use set cpu and turn down the speed when the screen is off. My battery performance is almost equal to what I used to get from the Droid1. It'll last me all day with moderate usage,
I use SetCPU as well but I am a little more aggressive.
ScreenOff = 300Mhz
Less than 50% Batt = 800Mhz
Less than 25% Batt = 600 Mhz
I also have it set to throttle down to 800Mhz when temp goes above 50C but thats not really about Battery Life.
You really don't notice the lowered CPU at all. Especially during phone calls or TXTing.
I think the real savings is in the screen off. My guess is the stock automatic scaling is not doing a good enough job on it's own when the phone is sleeping. and most of our battery life was being blown away in standby.
With those settings I have been able to go almost a day and a half on a charge with moderate use where before even light use would only get me 6-8 hours.
And that is with a BP6 not a 7!
With those settings as your battery goes lower the longer it will take to drain. It really was remarkable.
Computer Dreams said:
any help????
my wife's battery life is so bad
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Disable WiFi or BlueTooth ..
Hey guys
I was looking over the power saving options and theres not that much in there, it just disables some stuff which you could do manually and I started thinking about my Galaxy S3
with power saving on it would underclock from 1.4 too 1.0 and save around 1 hour of screen on time, but did lag a bit
Sony should have done the same and underclocked it from 2.2 to 1.5, I say this because 1.5 is really enough anyway, and the amount of battery it would save would probably be a lot!
What do you guys think?
J
JackHanAnLG said:
Hey guys
I was looking over the power saving options and theres not that much in there, it just disables some stuff which you could do manually and I started thinking about my Galaxy S3
with power saving on it would underclock from 1.4 too 1.0 and save around 1 hour of screen on time, but did lag a bit
Sony should have done the same and underclocked it from 2.2 to 1.5, I say this because 1.5 is really enough anyway, and the amount of battery it would save would probably be a lot!
What do you guys think?
J
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I do not understand your reasoning... You are assuming that a device that is able to do 2.2Ghz, is running at 2.2Ghz all the time?
Normally, when you task the CPU 100% -> 2.2GHz
But it uses different profiles. So a 10% task, will maybe run the cpu at 800Mhz
Please note: i do not know exactly how many power profiles are in the Snapdragon 800.
But if you perform x task in 10 second at 800mhz, or 3 second in 2.2Ghz ... in battery level its not to make a big difference ( unless your task is going for hours ).
Also remember, your S3, used a 1 + 4 configuration. That means, minimum tasks are run on the slower core. Large tasks it activates the 4 core setup. Its possible on the older Tegra3, that the 4 cores may not be powered gated, and you are activating too many cores, for the task your running. Or its leveling the power profile on all the cores, when running a single task. So that is why you get a hour more battery life ( i assume again, you mean on-screen battery life ).
The Snapdragon unlike the Tegra3, runs in a 4 core configuration with power-gating the idle cores. So it does not need to constantly switch between little.big configurations ( that little.big is designed to safe power, but it also costs power when it needs to do a lot of switching ).
If you deliberately slow things down, yes, you can save power. But you also wait longer for the task to finish. Unless somebody can show conclusive evidence that locking your CPU down, has a advantage, i will more or less state, that under normal situation ( surfing, chat, email whatever ), your screen is actually the biggest power drainer. I see this clearly also on my device, with it draining over 50% on a 5h+ on-screen time.
Unless people have done some experiments, i assume that any advantage of lower clocking your cpu, will be minimalism. Unless you lower clock your CPU, AND also under-voltage your CPU.
I think you will see much more energy gain, from lowering your screens brightness ( and disabling the automatic screen strength adjustment ), especially with this big 6.4" screen. Or just get a Power Jacket...
http://shop.brando.com/Power-Jacket-with-cover-For-Sony-Xperia-Z-Ultra-4500mAh_p10103c1591d003.html
That gives you a nice 80 a 90% extra charge on the road. Or install a USB-lighter plug in your car, and voila. More mobile power source *lol*
Just picked up an XT1527 (full package, box, accessories, everything) from a craigslist seller for $40 - I figured it would give me something to play with until Motorola ships my "free" Moto X (32GB 2013 model) as a replacement exchange for my old Atrix HD which bricked when I installed the last update for it. For the record, this is the Cricket model.
Upon playing around with it for the past few hours, however, I've noted it tends to run just a bit warm even when I'm not really doing much of anything so I started checking into it - I'm still pure stock, mind you, 5.0.2 build LXI22.50-13.4) and I'm thinking about rooting it and perhaps checking out the CM12.1 build but there's no hurry at the moment.
Having said all that, I grabbed CPU-Z and took a peek at the SoC specs: it shows an idle speed of 800 MHz for all four of the cores even in spite of them having a 200 to 1.2 GHz range. One would think that the device would ramp down to 200 MHz when idle and not doing much of anything at all but, that's not the case so far.
So I grabbed System Monitor Lite to check just in case CPU-Z was reading things incorrectly and got the same exact results. Upon checking the pie graph it clearly shows a range of 800 MHz to 1.2 GHz and nothing below it.
Has anyone else noted this issue with the Moto E 2015 model or... am I just so new with this thing (having owned oh, maybe 200 other devices in the past decade and doing some rather intensive customizations on 'em) that I'm missing something here and just not even noticing it?
Had hoped to keep this device relatively clean and stock but, it appears that's not practical if this CPU speed situation can't be resolved. I see there's basically only the one custom kernel available so far (Squid) and while I'm not opposed to using it once rooted/etc I'm still curious as to know why this thing isn't ramping down the clock as it should. It's using the default interactive governor as well, would be nice to be able to alter that but again that's where it gets more complicated.
Anyone else noted this on their XT1527 (or any of them, really, just as long as it's a 2015 model) or would someone else that's running pure stock be willing to check their CPU usage with CPU-Z or System Monitor or something else and see if it's not ramping down below 800 MHz as it actually should? Obviously the battery life would dramatically improve if this thing would slow down as it should - there could be some new Qualcomm trickery at work here that I'm not aware of, but if it's capable of dropping back to 200 MHz, it damned well better.
Any comments and suggestions are appreciated...
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Also I've noted the GPU doesn't ramp down to 200 MHz as it should either, it hovers at 310 MHz almost constantly which again is just another waste of battery when staring at a static image on the screen (save for the info updates themselves but that's not really a thing that should or would trigger a big spike in GPU speed).
o.o thank you so much. You'd wonder why. Well, yesterday (I think) I made a topic about how my phone drains battery abnormally and I just checked with the app you said (cpu-z) and it seems I have the same problem. My phone feels warm almost all the time and it also keeps working up to 800 MHz in all cores. Also, I own the same model and someone in the other topic told me that battery should last 2 or 3 days without doing something. Oh anyway, thanks because now I have a hint about what's going on. Maybe its a manufacturer problem.
For some reason, Motorola set the CPU idle speed to 800 MHz. I don't know why. I lowered the idle speed to 400 MHz on my phone, and I'm not noticing any performance degradation. I haven't noticed any heat or battery issues though. My phone stays fairly cool, even under heavy load (like running benchmarks repeatedly). I've undervolted my phone slightly, that may reduce heat a bit, though I don't recall having any heat issues without the undervolt either.
Well squid, I'm guessing you are using a pretty customized setup at the moment including the kernel you've created so, I'll most likely end up getting a similar situation I suppose. Since the Snapdragon 410 can do 200 MHz to 1.2 GHz it damned well better do it; if Motorola for some reason chose to "hard lock" it at an 800 MHz idle speed that's a bit ridiculous and will only serve to hamper battery life overall.
Performance isn't the issue here since as soon as some CPU power is required it'll ramp up as expected - the issue here is the 800 MHz "bottom" which should actually be 200 MHz. That's a big difference in terms of overall battery life in the long run.
I owned an LG Tribute in late 2014 and was regularly getting 8+ hours of SOT with that which is powered by a Snapdragon 400 (1.2 GHz quad core) and that has a 2100 mAh hour battery - the Snapdragon 410 in this Moto E should be better for battery efficiency + we've got a 2390 mAh in it so, as long as it's ramping down to the 200 MHz "bottom" that it actually should be hitting then I, for all intents and purposes, should be able to expect or even exceed that 8+ hours of SOT without issues. The Tribute has an 800x480 panel in it, the E has the 960x540 so in the long run that increase in pixels should be covered by the increase in battery amperage (290 mAh more).
This Moto E 2nd gen model should be able to do 7 hours of SOT without breaking a sweat, even with cellular/Wi-Fi/Bluetooth/location services on and functional.
At least that's my goal with it... I'm on my first full charge since I bought it earlier today and currently at 58% with 3.5 hours of SOT and that's using Wi-Fi a lot with video playback as well. I've been keeping on top of the Baltimore riots that are happening presently and monitoring things using Scanner Radio Pro as well as a lot of surfing for info and news too. So far so good on the battery life, but obviously it can be much better as long as that CPU speed can be brought under better control.
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Hi! touching my phone and having common sense let me know that the Exynos GPU and the low power cores/high power cores have a little nonsense regarding to STOCK thermal and CPU/GPU freq/usage, so, i change between low power cores to high power cores at 50% it's minimum frequences and let the system to use ONLY the high power cores, heavy underclocked, since our phone have thermal copper plate to avoid high temperatures there should be no problem.
But the MORE INTERESTING part of it, it's that this Exynos allows to underclock a LOT among other things, except the GPU which doesn't go really well with underclocking so, when i do this mod, i was able to boost the overall system performance (daily use) like our S7 Exynos is like two or three generations after it regarding to performance! While turning on only hardcore CPU's and not the EIGHT OF THEM the phone not only runs wayyy better, but also runs VERY stable and cold, even better than stock.
Regarding battery life, the overall pack which you only have to import through "Morotweaks" you not only have a lot more benefits regarding low power consumption, but, when you use the powerfull cores ONLY at higher frequency, the Exynos is able to deep sleep more often than before... Regarding additional benefits into the battery life/heat area.
This looks amazing, but where are the download links? Also, will I void my warranty if I use this kernel?
Uhm this look sus
does anyone know how to install? I don't quite understand how to do it
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does anyone know how to install? I don't quite understand how to do it
All the descriptions are claimed for the S7 exynos, so look very sus
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