So, can anyone tell me how significant an upgrade the SGS3 will be over the SGS2 HD LTE? North American version
-Both are dual core - granted the SGS3 has a new version, supposedly better?
-SGS3 - slightly larger screen - not necessarily a win
-both have pentile Super Amoled HD screens
Is this going to feel like a large upgrade?
Dude s iii is quad core not dual
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Dude s iii is quad core not dual
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He stated he is talking about the North America version. Which it seems will have the dual core S4 instead of the Exynos so it can support LTE
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He stated he is talking about the North America version. Which it seems will have the dual core S4 instead of the Exynos so it can support LTE
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Exactly. GS3 appears to be an S4 processor vs. the GS2 running the S3. How much difference is this going to make?
Also the s voice feature...i assume it will eventually make its way to the GS2s eh?
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He stated he is talking about the North America version. Which it seems will have the dual core S4 instead of the Exynos so it can support LTE
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S iii lte version will be also launched and it will also have quad exynos (gsmarena)
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S iii lte version will be also launched and it will also have quad exynos (gsmarena)
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You have the link to that because everywhere else is reporting differently? Although most are saying it "may not" have the quad core chip. I have seen a lot more speculation that it will have a dual core chip than I have seen that it will be quad core. I guess we really wont know for sure until it's released state side.
http://www.androidcentral.com/dual-core-galaxy-s3-be-offered-some-territories-snapdragon-s4-and-lte
http://www.slashgear.com/us-galaxy-s-iii-may-not-feature-quad-core-chip-26224870/
http://pocketnow.com/android/samsung-galaxy-s3s-dual-core-cpu-for-verizon-confirmed
http://www.brighthand.com/default.asp?newsID=18855&news=Samsung+Galaxy+S+III+S3+quad-core
http://www.mobile88.com/news/read.a...receive_Quad-core_Exynos_Samsung_Galaxy_S_III
http://www.androidauthority.com/samsung-galaxy-s3-dual-core-snapdragon-s4-us-79146/
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Samsung-Galaxy-S-III-may-not-have-quad-core-in-the-US-models_id29775
http://www.phonedog.com/2012/04/26/...ing-dual-core-snapdragon-s4-in-u-s-galaxy-s3/
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S iii lte version will be also launched and it will also have quad exynos (gsmarena)
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Yeah, I was going to ask for source too.
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bbabiuk said:
Exactly. GS3 appears to be an S4 processor vs. the GS2 running the S3. How much difference is this going to make?
Also the s voice feature...i assume it will eventually make its way to the GS2s eh?
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I think it would make a pretty big difference considering how much better the S4 chip is over the older snapdragon chip. Although if it does have a dual core in the US I will most likely but the intl version. On HSPA+ in NYC I can get up to 10mbps and usually around 4-7mbps on average which is plenty fast for what I need. I'm on wifi most of the time at home, work and school anyway. Plus I dont have a grandfathered unlimited data package and LTE would burn though my 4gb of data faster. This month I actually went over 4gb for the first time on HSPA+
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Why does T-Mobile have a 1.5 dual core and android 2.3.5 and my at&t running 2.3.4 and 1.2 dual core?
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Why does T-Mobile have a 1.5 dual core and android 2.3.5 and my at&t running 2.3.4 and 1.2 dual core?
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The 1.5 GHz Snapdragon in the T-Mo version is not as efficient per clock cycle as the 1.2 GHz Exynos in ours.
The T-Mo version barely has the right to be called a Galaxy S. Other than the screen, it's more similar to HTC phones in design than any Samsung.
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The 1.5 GHz Snapdragon in the T-Mo version is not as efficient per clock cycle as the 1.2 GHz Exynos in ours.
The T-Mo version barely has the right to be called a Galaxy S. Other than the screen, it's more similar to HTC phones in design than any Samsung.
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Why does T-Mobile have a 1.5 dual core and android 2.3.5 and my at&t running 2.3.4 and 1.2 dual core?
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It's a good thing for us. Say your prayers
T-mo has to use a slower, yes slower than ours, processor because it needs to use the HSPA+ 42mbps radio chip from Qualcomm.
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...it's more similar to HTC phones in design than any Samsung.
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There's a couple of big differences which should make it outperform a similarly speced HTC phone. Samsung does a much better job with drivers, it has more RAM and 16MB of NAND memory, TouchWiz is 1/4 the size of Sense, and it uses EXT4 vs. RFS for it's file system. While it's not truly a SGS2 variant, it'll probably be a good performer.
You guys have seen the benchmarks on various sites right? It performs well.
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Only because they had to overclock the S3 chip to 1.5 ghz
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Only because they had to overclock the S3 chip to 1.5 ghz
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It runs at 1.5 in almost every phone, it's a different chip, 1.5 is the correct frequency. Look I love Exynos as much as anyone, fantastic cpu and gpu, but this disinformation spreading about the S3 is somewhat disturbing.
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Reason is, t mobile won't be getting the quad core version. I have two new HTC one s's and I'm thinking of trading them both for an international gs3. Or, I'm going to sell them both. I have an offer from a salesman to buy the international gs3 for $700 even. What do you guys think I should do?
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I believe it's like the One X. Yes, it will work but you'll be limited to 3G speeds (also limited to 1GB ram instead of 2GB in the US version).
The RAM thing i think makes it worth it to just go with the US version. The S4 handles vet nicely, and the majority of apps don't bother to take advantage of quad core anyway, so to me the US for once gets the better end of the stick with regard to the GS3.
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I believe it's like the One X. Yes, it will work but you'll be limited to 3G speeds (also limited to 1GB ram instead of 2GB in the US version).
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That is incorrect. For a phone to be able to utilize T-Mobile 3G/4G, it must support the both 1700 and 2100 frequencies. While the international S3 does support the 2100 band, it doesn't support the 1700 band. That is the entire reason Samsung is making a specific T-Mobile S3.
The international S3 will work with T-Mobile, but only at 2G speeds.
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That is incorrect. For a phone to be able to utilize T-Mobile 3G/4G, it must support the both 1700 and 2100 frequencies. While the international S3 does support the 2100 band, it doesn't support the 1700 band. That is the entire reason Samsung is making a specific T-Mobile S3.
The international S3 will work with T-Mobile, but only at 2G speeds.
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It will be 2G only, for now. Once T-Mobile has 1900 3G up and running it will be 3G again, which should be done for all major markets by the end of the year.
On another not. I've seen the TMOUS SGSIII in action and trust me, you don't need the quad core. 2GB of RAM with dual core is WAY better than 1GB of RAM with quad core.
EDIT: One more thing, the EU version is limited to 21Mbps while the TMOUS will be 42Mbps, twice the data rate.
Yes I agree if I had my choice I would get tha quad 4 with 2 gigs ram but since it dosnt come that way more ram is more noticeable and quad core is nice but really what are you doing with it your running linux.
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Get the tmobile version. You wont notice the cpu difference at all. and never trade two htc one s for one sgs3 lol thats crazy.
Hell no...two phones that just came out for one phone..don't do it..sell them separately. Higher cash value,buy s3 and have extra cash..lol
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Hell no...two phones that just came out for one phone..don't do it..sell them separately. Higher cash value,buy s3 and have extra cash..lol
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Yea, I figured trading two for one might be a little crazy. It sucks that I got this phone weeks before the gs3 hits shelves. I guess we shall see how awesome the gs3 is.
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Well, it happen. I sold my HTC one s and now I wait for the SGS3 in three days.
Has anyone tried international version of gs 3 on T-Mobile USA? If so did u get hspa + speed?
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Has anyone tried international version of gs 3 on T-Mobile USA? If so did u get hspa + speed?
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Not possible unless you are in a trial area where tmo are testing 1900mhz freq for 3g.
If you aren't there is no way due to hardware.
The intl version doesn't have 1700mhz.
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This was on the same page.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1713040
What is up with all the Tmo questions and international gs3? just get the Tmo version.. its cheaper and it support your bands..
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What is up with all the Tmo questions and international gs3? just get the Tmo version.. its cheaper and it support your bands..
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Everyone asks this with EVERY international Samsung phone. You would think people would learn sooner or later.
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What is up with all the Tmo questions and international gs3? just get the Tmo version.. its cheaper and it support your bands..
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Because we want the European quadcore. Just because t-mobile thinks U.S consumers are too dumb and too poor to know the difference or afford it, does not mean all of us are.
If the hardware is capable then all you need is a software radio flash.
So far rumors are all the radio ICs are the same.
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shnn2011 said:
Because we want the European quadcore. Just because t-mobile thinks U.S consumers are too dumb and too poor to know the difference or afford it, does not mean all of us are.
If the hardware is capable then all you need is a software radio flash.
So far rumors are all the radio ICs are the same.
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The hardware isn't capable, joshnichols above has the intl version on tmo and gets edge speeds.
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Because we want the European quadcore. Just because t-mobile thinks U.S consumers are too dumb and too poor to know the difference or afford it, does not mean all of us are.
If the hardware is capable then all you need is a software radio flash.
So far rumors are all the radio ICs are the same.
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First, do you think it is some kind of conspiracy to keep you from having a powerful phone? THE SOC DOES NOT SUPPORT IT.
Second, if you think four cores is automatically better than two cores, I suggest you do some research.
You also have no idea what a radio is. There is a software radio, and there is a physical chip. The physical chip in the international S3 DOES NOT SUPPORT THE TMOBILE AWS BANDS, and it never will.
They also cost the same so I have no idea where price comes into this.
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Just order the sim card of Straight Talk website and youll be fine...I get H+ and love my speeds...but drop the contract unless you got LTE but H+ is perfect for me and only at 45 montly....Love it..
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Just order the sim card of Straight Talk website and youll be fine...I get H+ and love my speeds...but drop the contract unless you got LTE but H+ is perfect for me and only at 45 montly....Love it..
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If you do go this route, be wary that Straight Talk offers both AT&T and T-Mobile sim cards. If you get a T-Mobile one you will NOT get HSPA+
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First, do you think it is some kind of conspiracy to keep you from having a powerful phone? THE SOC DOES NOT SUPPORT IT.
Second, if you think four cores is automatically better than two cores, I suggest you do some research.
You also have no idea what a radio is. There is a software radio, and there is a physical chip. The physical chip in the international S3 DOES NOT SUPPORT THE TMOBILE AWS BANDS, and it never will.
They also cost the same so I have no idea where price comes into this.
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That is an uncalled for response. Based on my early reading the international version is using a chip capable of oscillating at the higher frequencies. I was also toold it is the exact same radio IC used in the t-mobile version, just like the skyrocket can be made to work on t-mobile after painfull modification.
For you to automatically assume and publicly state that my knowledge regarding a technology is limited is foul and absurd.
If i was incorrect on the IC specs then by all means feel free to correct me, but please site your source of information and be polite and professional.
Further, isn't the four core version using the same processor class / architecture?
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The dualcore uses a Qualcomm-sourced ARM-A15 while the quadcore uses a Samsung-developed ARM-A9, both with heavy modifications to the standard platform.
So there are actually differences in performance in regard to certain tasks but since games, flash and other ressource-hogs usually only use up to 2 cores there is no real disadvantage in everyday usage even if synthetic benchmarks make you believe otherwise.
Usually -as is and was also true for desktop computers, laptops and servers- it's the storage, RAM, and bandwith that are the bottlenecks.
And at least in terms of Ram the Us-Version got an advantage.
I'm not sure about the SoC but wasn't the whole point of Samsung not integrating the radio in the SoC that they could easily pair it with different radio chips? All it would've taken in that case is a different baseband processor, amplifier and antenna - not a whole new CPU arch which happens to include LTE
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That is an uncalled for response. Based on my early reading the international version is using a chip capable of oscillating at the higher frequencies. I was also toold it is the exact same radio IC used in the t-mobile version, just like the skyrocket can be made to work on t-mobile after painfull modification.
For you to automatically assume and publicly state that my knowledge regarding a technology is limited is foul and absurd.
If i was incorrect on the IC specs then by all means feel free to correct me, but please site your source of information and be polite and professional.
Further, isn't the four core version using the same processor class / architecture?
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Oh so you need sources from me but you don't have to cite your own? I may have been harsh but there was a thread on the same page as this one and the people asking in this thread hadn't even bothered to look for information, but to call you out was wrong.
In any case, the four core version uses a cortex A9 compared to the two core version using a cortex A15. The architecture is ARM, yes but when it comes to the SoC as a whole the Exynos SoC has never supported AWS. I'm not saying it is not possible for it to reach the higher frequencies as you said, but it is not a conspiracy by any means. Both are great SoCs, but the fact is the exynos does not and will not support AWS.
Also the Skyrocket modifications are not painful, as far as I know just like the AT&T Note you just flash a radio to enable the bands. The problem is the exynos SoC does not have the bands necessary.
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Oh so you need sources from me but you don't have to cite your own? I may have been harsh but there was a thread on the same page as this one and the people asking in this thread hadn't even bothered to look for information, but to call you out was wrong.
In any case, the four core version uses a cortex A9 compared to the two core version using a cortex A15. The architecture is ARM, yes but when it comes to the SoC as a whole the Exynos SoC has never supported AWS. I'm not saying it is not possible for it to reach the higher frequencies as you said, but it is not a conspiracy by any means. Both are great SoCs, but the fact is the exynos does not and will not support AWS.
Also the Skyrocket modifications are not painful, as far as I know just like the AT&T Note you just flash a radio to enable the bands. The problem is the exynos SoC does not have the bands necessary.
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I never made an authoritative statement, simply gave my reason for desiring the quad core based on my beliefs. You are correct I should have been more clear, but let us both make peace as we are both members of an educated class.
Thank you for that information, so letme all you guys, what is the superior platform in your opinions.
And do you know if the at&t version will work on t-mobile with a radio flash as it seems to be cheaper.
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I never made an authoritative statement, simply gave my reason for desiring the quad core based on my beliefs. You are correct I should have been more clear, but let us both make peace as we are both members of an educated class.
Thank you for that information, so letme all you guys, what is the superior platform in your opinions.
And do you know if the at&t version will work on t-mobile with a radio flash as it seems to be cheaper.
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Yes, I believe it will. That is how it is for the Skyrocket and Note. However I hear the Note gets AWFUL battery with a T-Mobile radio
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Yes, I believe it will. That is how it is for the Skyrocket and Note. However I hear the Note gets AWFUL battery with a T-Mobile radio
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Good, I suppose the next question would be: what are the diffrences between the at&t version and the t-mobile.
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Good, I suppose the next question would be: what are the diffrences between the at&t version and the t-mobile.
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The logo on the back and a few minor software tweaks.
hi guys! need a bit of info from you if you don't mind. i searched on the internet regarding the international s3 and north america version and could'n find a straight answer.
1. does the international s3 support 4g? in all descriptions it says "4G - REGIONAL"?
2. which one would you guys recommend? international or north america?
thank you
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=galaxy+s3+us+vs+international
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http://lmgtfy.com/?q=galaxy+s3+us+vs+international
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How did u do that? I need to do that for people 20+ times every day
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How did u do that? I need to do that for people 20+ times every day
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its called let me google that for you (lmgtfy)
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wow....
again with the smart answers.....
do you guys know how to read????????
i thought you guys have already the s3 and know the answer....
i CHECKED the internet and it doesn't say anything about 4G international, but then again if i asked your opinion about int. vs north america and you tell me to google....
thanks for the smart reply...
No, the international version (GT-I9300) does not support 4G, that's exactly why North America has its own versions (there are also some North American versions without 4G too, if I am correct).
The N.A. versions have 2 GB of RAM and a 1.5 GHz dual-core processor (Qualcomm Snapdragon S4), while the international version have 1 GB of RAM and a 1.4 GHZ quad-core processor (Samsung Exynos 4 Quad). In addition, the maximum up and down speeds on mobile networks are obviously quite a bit higher for 4G LTE than international, but if you, like I, mostly use wifi networks, international should be fine to (and I can say from my own experience that the mobile network speeds on the international version ain't that bad either).
You will have to make up your mind yourself, though, as I think in the end, it just comes down to personal preference. I have the international version myself, though I am perfectly fine with it and I wouldn't really exchange it for a 4G model even if I could.
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wow....
again with the smart answers.....
do you guys know how to read????????
i thought you guys have already the s3 and know the answer....
i CHECKED the internet and it doesn't say anything about 4G international, but then again if i asked your opinion about int. vs north america and you tell me to google....
thanks for the smart reply...
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Hi Mr. Technology challenged. There are tons of threads in the general section with wars going on this topic. Check those out.
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Also if you aren't on ATT the international one isn't worth buying anyways.
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Only question for me is do i want a quad or a dual?
The 2GB of ram is nice but negligible, very little will benefit from it, at the moment anyway.
The quad core system on my i9300 is a monster, i would hate to lose two of the cores.
Plus the development for the i9300 is top notch, which for me sell's itself.
I had a bad time with the evo 3D, the uk didn't like it very much and this was reflected in development, I chose it over the sensation XE as it had an extra 256MB of ram, oohhhh big mistake lol, the sensation wasn't as quick on paper but it was optimized due to better development and for that reason i was left wanting, huge regret.
Plus the 3D didn't help
The point i'm making is, don't go for a phone just because it's got a bit more ram, especially when what's already on offer (1GB) is more than enough.
The data side of it i wouldn't know as i'm in the UK, afaik it's pretty good here.
5mb down 1.5mb up, not too shabby
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Also if you aren't on ATT the international one isn't worth buying anyways.
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OP is in Canada where we have widespread GSM.
International version has FM.
thank you so much guys, you made my life better
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OP is in Canada where we have widespread GSM.
International version has FM.
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I can't see carrier logos in the XDA app so I said it anyways even so, in Canada you'll only get 2G on WIND and I believe Mobilicity but I could be wrong about the latter.
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I had the AT&T Galaxy S III when it came out, but ended up returning it due to the very poor LTE speeds I got in Chicago. Anyway, I did notice some lag throughout the home screens. Wasn't bad at all, yet annoying. The I-9300 has the quad core processor and much better GPU, so how are animations on the International version versus the North American version?
In my experience with using both.. quad core version does seem to have a slight speed advantage. Also the latest stock ROMs seem to imptove performance, which is something the US versions dont receive (well.. as often anyway)
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In my experience with using both.. quad core version does seem to have a slight speed advantage. Also the latest stock ROMs seem to imptove performance, which is something the US versions dont receive (well.. as often anyway)
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Thanks. That's what I thought.
MattMJB0188 said:
I had the AT&T Galaxy S III when it came out, but ended up returning it due to the very poor LTE speeds I got in Chicago. Anyway, I did notice some lag throughout the home screens. Wasn't bad at all, yet annoying. The I-9300 has the quad core processor and much better GPU, so how are animations on the International version versus the North American version?
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There are tons of other thread exactly on same topic. Unless you ask our old friend jamedandmandy everyone will unanimously agree that international version is faster.
I own both, and I think international one is tad bit faster in every way.
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the simple fact is
the international version should be faster as its a quadcore
the us version is a dualcore
the only other difference between them worth noting is the us version has 2gb ram compared to the international version that has 1gb ram